Why don't console games have graphical settings?

It seems like it would be very beneficial to provide graphical settings for console games.

Don't like massive amounts of bloom? Turn it off.

Don't like exaggerated depth-of-field? Turn it off

Don't like lens-flares? Turn them off.

Don't like intense lag (Far Cry 3:P)? Turn shadows/AO down.

Screwed something up in the settings? Revert to default

They could also provide settings which take advantage of the increased FPS from disabled effects, such as improved shadow filtering and better LOD, or even a higher resolution

I don't really see why console games don't have this option. It would be nothing but beneficial for the players and the developers. The only issue I could see is multiplayer being biased towards those using less effects, but the settings could simply be locked to default for the multiplayer if needed.

.clyde46

Can you explain to me how that image relates to the thread at all?

[QUOTE="clyde46"].Riadon2

Can you explain to me how that image relates to the thread at all?

You get what you're given on consoles.

because devs get it right on consoles, unlike pc where they are to lazy to add the correct settings

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"].clyde46

Can you explain to me how that image relates to the thread at all?

Non-troll/Controversy threads don't seem to do very well here, true.

The concept of the thread isn't bad, but it will be ignored because people only come to System Wars for teh lulz.

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"].clyde46

Can you explain to me how that image relates to the thread at all?

Then they would be PCs.

because devs get it right on consoles, unlike pc where they are to lazy to add the correct settings

Chris_Williams

You're suggesting that every single console effect is desirable to every single consumer?

Then they would be PCs.

clone01

I see no reason why they should not adopt some of the PC's better features.

It seems like it would be very beneficial to provide graphical settings for console games.

Don't like massive amounts of bloom? Turn it off.

Don't like exaggerated depth-of-field? Turn it off

Don't like lens-flares? Turn them off.

Don't like intense lag (Far Cry 3:P)? Turn shadows/AO down.

Screwed something up in the settings? Revert to default

They could also provide settings which take advantage of the increased FPS from disabled effects, such as improved shadow filtering and better LOD, or even a higher resolution

I don't really see why console games don't have this option. It would be nothing but beneficial for the players and the developers. The only issue I could see is multiplayer being biased towards those using less effects, but the settings could simply be locked to default for the multiplayer if needed.

Riadon2

Switch off massive amounts of bloom, remove the exaggerated d.o.f. and disable the lens flare would be like removing the make up from a 50 year old prostitute, everyone would see how ugly it really is and no one would want to buy it.

They usually do have basic things like contrast, brightness, screen positioning and gamma. Really though the devs (should) have already done the optimising for the hardware, if it runs terribly then it is either that the hardware isn't good enough for the devs vision, or the devs failed at optimising. Mass effect also had the film grain setting too, so maybe lens flare could be an option. The others that effect performance shouldn't be there in the first place if they mess up the performance. It shouldn't be the consumers job to make a game not run at 10FPS on consoles.APiranhaAteMyVa

It happens, though. Some games run badly, so it would be nice to have the option to improve their performance.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

because devs get it right on consoles, unlike pc where they are to lazy to add the correct settings

Riadon2

You're suggesting that every single console effect is desirable to every single consumer?

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

It seems like it would be very beneficial to provide graphical settings for console games.

Don't like massive amounts of bloom? Turn it off.

Don't like exaggerated depth-of-field? Turn it off

Don't like lens-flares? Turn them off.

Don't like intense lag (Far Cry 3:P)? Turn shadows/AO down.

Screwed something up in the settings? Revert to default

They could also provide settings which take advantage of the increased FPS from disabled effects, such as improved shadow filtering and better LOD, or even a higher resolution

I don't really see why console games don't have this option. It would be nothing but beneficial for the players and the developers. The only issue I could see is multiplayer being biased towards those using less effects, but the settings could simply be locked to default for the multiplayer if needed.

GarGx1

Switch off massive amounts of bloom, remove the exaggerated d.o.f. and disable the lens flare would be like removing the make up from a 50 year old prostitute, everyone would see how ugly it really is and no one would want to buy it.

If they like the insane amount of post-processing, they can leave it on.

It's that simple.

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

because devs get it right on consoles, unlike pc where they are to lazy to add the correct settings

Chris_Williams

You're suggesting that every single console effect is desirable to every single consumer?

No point really but I see what you're saying. I know Bioshock had an option to turn off v-synch in the options on the 360 and I remember Sega Rally 2 having a cheat code that allowed you to turn off some graphical effects to increase the frame rate.AcidSoldner

I think it is a pretty major feature to allow gamers to turn off effects that bog down the game or that they don't like.

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

It seems like it would be very beneficial to provide graphical settings for console games.

Don't like massive amounts of bloom? Turn it off.

Don't like exaggerated depth-of-field? Turn it off

Don't like lens-flares? Turn them off.

Don't like intense lag (Far Cry 3:P)? Turn shadows/AO down.

Screwed something up in the settings? Revert to default

They could also provide settings which take advantage of the increased FPS from disabled effects, such as improved shadow filtering and better LOD, or even a higher resolution

I don't really see why console games don't have this option. It would be nothing but beneficial for the players and the developers. The only issue I could see is multiplayer being biased towards those using less effects, but the settings could simply be locked to default for the multiplayer if needed.

GarGx1

Switch off massive amounts of bloom, remove the exaggerated d.o.f. and disable the lens flare would be like removing the make up from a 50 year old prostitute, everyone would see how ugly it really is and no one would want to buy it.

Consolites like L0we can't understand them. Heil68

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Consolites like L0we can't understand them. lowe0

You might personally not wan't to bother with the settings, but plenty of people would. I imagine that you would mess with the settings if the game suffered from extreme lag, though.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Heil68"]Consolites like L0we can't understand them. Riadon2

You might personally not wan't to bother with the settings, but plenty of people would. I imagine that you would mess with the settings if the game suffered from extreme lag, though.

because devs get it right on consoles, unlike pc where they are to lazy to add the correct settings

Chris_Williams

:|

Really.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

because devs get it right on consoles, unlike pc where they are to lazy to add the correct settings

BPoole96

[QUOTE="GarGx1"]

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

It seems like it would be very beneficial to provide graphical settings for console games.

Don't like massive amounts of bloom? Turn it off.

Don't like exaggerated depth-of-field? Turn it off

Don't like lens-flares? Turn them off.

Don't like intense lag (Far Cry 3:P)? Turn shadows/AO down.

Screwed something up in the settings? Revert to default

They could also provide settings which take advantage of the increased FPS from disabled effects, such as improved shadow filtering and better LOD, or even a higher resolution

I don't really see why console games don't have this option. It would be nothing but beneficial for the players and the developers. The only issue I could see is multiplayer being biased towards those using less effects, but the settings could simply be locked to default for the multiplayer if needed.

Riadon2

Switch off massive amounts of bloom, remove the exaggerated d.o.f. and disable the lens flare would be like removing the make up from a 50 year old prostitute, everyone would see how ugly it really is and no one would want to buy it.

If they like the insane amount of post-processing, they can leave it on.

It's that simple.

He's pointing out how many console games use these post processing effects to hide how bad the game would look otherwise, and if the consumers were allowed to take off these effects then people would see how bad the game looks, opening up the game/devs to criticism, lose of sales, etc

:|

Really.

super600

Care to comment on what is so bizarre about this thread?

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="GarGx1"]

Switch off massive amounts of bloom, remove the exaggerated d.o.f. and disable the lens flare would be like removing the make up from a 50 year old prostitute, everyone would see how ugly it really is and no one would want to buy it.

lostrib

If they like the insane amount of post-processing, they can leave it on.

It's that simple.

He's pointing out how many console games use these post processing effects to hide how bad the game would look otherwise, and if the consumers were allowed to take off these effects then people would see how bad the game looks, opening up the game/devs to criticism, lose of sales, etc

Why would people care if the game looked terrible without post-processing (assuming the post-processing is included in the default settings)? That would be like turning Crysis on PC down to low and saying that it is an ugly game with horrible physics.

[QUOTE="super600"]

:|

Really.

Riadon2

Care to comment on what is so bizarre about this thread?

it's dumb

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

:|

Really.

lostrib

Care to comment on what is so bizarre about this thread?

it's dumb

Care to go into more depth? What do you find the stupidest about this thread?

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

because devs get it right on consoles, unlike pc where they are to lazy to add the correct settings

Chris_Williams

So you want to be able to go from low settings to even lower settings on 2005 hardware? *laughs*

Console games are optimized unlike the PC ports.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

Care to comment on what is so bizarre about this thread?

Riadon2

it's dumb

Care to go into more depth? What do you find the stupidest about this thread?

How dumb it is

Console games are optimized unlike the PC ports.

EvanTheGamer

and yet the console game runs worse

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"].clyde46

Can you explain to me how that image relates to the thread at all?

Who wouldn't want to be Dr Zoidberg, home owner?:o

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Riadon2"]

Can you explain to me how that image relates to the thread at all?

Riadon2

Non-troll/Controversy threads don't seem to do very well here, true.

The concept of the thread isn't bad, but it will be ignored because people only come to System Wars for teh lulz.

The concept of the thread isn't bad, just terribly uninformed. you don't have grahics settings on consoles for the same reason you don't have upgradable hardware in consoles. Closed system, designed for the specific purpose of giving a unified, identical playing experience to everyone. If you had graphics settings, some people would get better performance than others, even if it was just because they made changes themselves. That's the exact opposite of what console manufacturers, and console game developers, want. And, particularly at this point in time, with the current consoles, those things are getting pushed to their limits by modern games. And, sometimes, beyond their limits (Far Cry 3). If they gave you graphics options, you might very well turn something up too far and cause your console to overheat and break.

Thems the breaks. Consoles are designed to be closed systems, where the gamer's experience is dictated by what is given to them. The hardware isn't customizable, and neither are the games. If you want to customize your experience, maybe it's time to step up to the big leagues and build a PC.

That's why PCs exist!

Consoles are dumbed down to cater people who want simple experience. People who are computer illiterate would favour consoles.

It's true that I wished I had some graphical settings when the game runs like crap. But 95% of console exclusives run beautifully, as they are built solely for the particular console. I was quite surprised that Halo Reach dropped some serious performance here and there. This is why it boggles my mind when lems say that 360 handles games better "due to better hardware and memory architecture", yet their exclusives run like crap.

Games that have serious trouble with performance are multiplats, which are much more enjoyable on PC.

.clyde46

fvckin love that moment in the show.

I wish i had thing that could spontaneously explode ;_;

Get a PC. Problem solved

Doesn't Bioshock on 360 have the ability to increase the frame rate, at a cost of more screen tearing? I don't have the game anymore, but i remember that option.

edit: TheGuardian03 beat me on it!

They don't need them, console games already look great as they are. They are more convienant, you don't have to spend time tweaking settings so it can run and look right on a PC.

They don't need them, console games already look great as they are. They are more convienant, you don't have to spend time tweaking settings so it can run and look right on a PC.

ShadowMoses900

When I was playing multiplats on my PS3, there were many times when I wished I can tone down the textures. The performance have been terrible. I think it's safe to say that consoles nowadays are wannabe PC. Trying to push the technical limitations beyond consoles' limits.

Just another one of the reasons why I game on PC now.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

They don't need them, console games already look great as they are. They are more convienant, you don't have to spend time tweaking settings so it can run and look right on a PC.

GamerwillzPS

When I was playing multiplats on my PS3, there were many times when I wished I can tone down the textures. The performance have been terrible. I think it's safe to say that consoles nowadays are wannabe PC. Trying to push the technical limitations beyond consoles' limits.

Just another one of the reasons why I game on PC now.

My big problem wth PC right now is aside from upgrading again I don't like how I have to play certain games over certain services only. It's not unified like it is on consoles and not every game is on Steam. I also hate M/K for most games.

Consoles are just more convienant and I think PC fanboys overexaggerate the graphics and performance.

Get a PC. Problem solved

seanmcloughlin

I am a hermit... I hardly even play on consoles.

That's why PCs exist!

Consoles are dumbed down to cater people who want simple experience. People who are computer illiterate would favour consoles.

It's true that I wished I had some graphical settings when the game runs like crap. But 95% of console exclusives run beautifully, as they are built solely for the particular console. I was quite surprised that Halo Reach dropped some serious performance here and there. This is why it boggles my mind when lems say that 360 handles games better "due to better hardware and memory architecture", yet their exclusives run like crap.

Games that have serious trouble with performance are multiplats, which are much more enjoyable on PC.

GamerwillzPS

Poor Gamerwillz, just wants to be accepted in anything that's not lems. I think someone needs a hug.