Why doesn't Nintendo just do what they did with the SNES?

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#1 Posted by PS4hasNOgames (1367 posts) -

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

#2 Posted by BldgIrsh (1613 posts) -

So... are you not abandoning this site now?

#3 Posted by lostrib (34468 posts) -

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

Uh...phrasing?

#4 Posted by fgjnfgh (2630 posts) -

money

#5 Posted by zpluffy (251 posts) -

Darude - Sandstorm

#6 Posted by EvanTheGamer (1122 posts) -

Close account please

#7 Posted by commonfate (12252 posts) -

Illusion of Gaia > all other SNES RPGs

#8 Posted by lostrib (34468 posts) -

Close account please

that sounds like a request

Mods, shut down evan's account

#9 Edited by lamprey263 (23169 posts) -

back then it was just them and Sega, and back then they were neck and neck, or I've heard it arguable that Sega had a slight lead in the overall market

believe me when I say it, people in the early 1990s would kill to have even the shittier games we have today

#10 Posted by Gue1 (9500 posts) -

because what made the Snes awesome wasn't the nintendo games but the 3rd party support. But because nintendo never listens then the 3rd party's don't give a fuck about them either.

#11 Posted by PS4hasNOgames (1367 posts) -

@bldgirsh said:

So... are you not abandoning this site now?

Close account please

@lostrib said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

Uh...phrasing?

#12 Posted by Jeager_Titan (945 posts) -

Another thread locked.

#13 Edited by nintendoboy16 (26272 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

because what made the Snes awesome wasn't the nintendo games but the 3rd party support. But because nintendo never listens then the 3rd party's don't give a fuck about them either.

It's posts like this that REALLY make me question what qualifies as a "true Nintendo" fan.

By the way, you're aware that the SNES, even with all the third party support, STILL HAD a first party foothold in sale right? Look at the top list. The only third party game to crack the top ten was Street Fighter II (two different versions), but even so, like the N64, Nintendo and Rare ran things across the board in sales.

#14 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16297 posts) -

Yeah sure, abandon the market you have now and make some bro-shooters that PS or Xbox owners would have no interest in playing.

#15 Edited by IMAHAPYHIPPO (2563 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames: Why not ask car companies why they don't make cars like the Pinto or ask Apple why they don't make computers in the vein of the Apple II. That business model doesn't work.

#16 Posted by Star0 (443 posts) -

SNES better than the NES?

*bbacks away slowly*

#17 Posted by scottpsfan14 (3789 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames: Why not ask car companies why they don't make cars like the Pinto or ask Apple why they don't make computers in the vein of the Apple II. That business model doesn't work.

Not what he was saying at all. He meant why don't Nintendo start making a competetive console again. Not another 16 bit console lol. Something that has the 3rd parties, and the power, and the nintendo IP's. Wouldn't hurt them.

#18 Posted by pelvist (4630 posts) -

I think the SNES was just more popular in America, I know the Americans had a real hard on for Nintendo back then. I had a SNES and a Megadrive and I liked the Megadrive more, so did everyone I know who also had one at the time. In most cases the multi plats where better on the Megadrive too ...Except Street Fighter 2.

#19 Posted by MirkoS77 (7164 posts) -

Differing market conditions?

#20 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8367 posts) -

Because unlike Sony which is a pure cash grabbing machine (not unlike Microsoft), Nintendo is built on principles. Sometimes said principles bite them on the ass but they'd never blindly favour bigger processing power over their flagship gameplay.

#21 Posted by DocSanchez (1566 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames: SNES had third party support. A lot of those RPGs were made by other companies than Nintendo, like Square, who no longer make RPGs for Nintendo (Or, some would say, RPGs of the same quality). Nintendo can't do what it did with the SNES.

#22 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26272 posts) -

@pelvist said:

I think the SNES was just more popular in America, I know the Americans had a real hard on for Nintendo back then. I had a SNES and a Megadrive and I liked the Megadrive more, so did everyone I know who also had one at the time. In most cases the multi plats where better on the Megadrive too ...Except Street Fighter 2.

Genesis had a lead in America (but it was close). If anything, the SNES was more popular in Japan (hence the huge Japanese support in contrast to western), while in Europe, it got ridiculed by the Genesis/Mega Drive.

#23 Posted by edwardecl (2112 posts) -

All cartridge consoles back then were shit, there was much better available at the time. The best was the Amiga, that got so many games that were the definitive version and sometimes the only version it wasn't funny (although sadly not much Japanese stuff). Some say you can't class it as a console, but for many all they used it for was games and you could plug in joysticks and controllers and you did not need an operating system to boot the games.

Then the PS1 came along and changed everything. I suppose one of the reasons was that Sony bought up all the old Amiga devs.

#24 Edited by AzatiS (7265 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames:

How to do that now ... they lost major developers trust because they drive away hardcores which are the gamers that staying loyal in the end of the day

As you see last gen , both Nintendo and MS , thought that casuals is the future... well NO .. Nintendo cant bring back anyone anymore except the die hard Nintendo fans that cant live without Nintendos 1st party games and that alone. All started with N64 , GC was even worse despite the good efforts , Wii was a bubble , brought in tens of millions casuals but still no use...it died out of nowhere .... Now Wii U continues the "legacy" ....

#25 Posted by Alcapello (779 posts) -

lol Thread is a joke.

Genesis > SNES.

It had a few good game and sh!t ports.

Also, NES > SNES tho S did rev a few new genre.

#26 Posted by yokofox33 (29367 posts) -

Yep, cuz it's so easy to just create classic RPGs left and right.

#27 Posted by Heirren (16546 posts) -

@Star0 said:

SNES better than the NES?

*bbacks away slowly*

Hey part of me agrees with you, but I think if you break things down the snes was the overall better console. RPGs took a big step forward with the snes. ...................................................................but still, nes, maybe.

Comparing systems is difficult on a board like this because people let their emotions get in the way.

#28 Posted by Star0 (443 posts) -

@Heirren: The NES made gaming accessible in the household.

I don't think you can have any more impact than that.

True, the SNES championed RPGs, but at that point it was expected. The NES was a game-changer and it has more classics.

#29 Edited by thehig1 (1397 posts) -

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

Most the gaming population are that above, I would prefer Nintendo not cater to them and leave that to Sony and Microsoft.

I would not want to see Nintendo keep up with the times and release annual military shooters

#30 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150329 posts) -

back then it was just them and Sega, and back then they were neck and neck, or I've heard it arguable that Sega had a slight lead in the overall market

believe me when I say it, people in the early 1990s would kill to have even the shittier games we have today

I don't believe that.....

#31 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (7204 posts) -

Most of the RPGs on the SNES were made by third parties. -_-

#32 Edited by nintendoboy16 (26272 posts) -

@thehig1 said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

Most the gaming population are that above, I would prefer Nintendo not cater to them and leave that to Sony and Microsoft.

I would not want to see Nintendo keep up with the times and release annual military shooters

lol, I remember Malstrom sharing that pic in one of his blogs criticizing the hardcore.

#33 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26272 posts) -

@thehig1 said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

Most the gaming population are that above, I would prefer Nintendo not cater to them and leave that to Sony and Microsoft.

I would not want to see Nintendo keep up with the times and release annual military shooters

lol, I remember Sean Malstrom posting that pic in one of his blogs criticizing the hardcore.

#34 Posted by thehig1 (1397 posts) -

@thehig1 said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

Most the gaming population are that above, I would prefer Nintendo not cater to them and leave that to Sony and Microsoft.

I would not want to see Nintendo keep up with the times and release annual military shooters

lol, I remember Sean Malstrom posting that pic in one of his blogs criticizing the hardcore.

I like that picture haha.

Its how I picture every COD online player

#35 Posted by SYSTEM-REBOOT (646 posts) -

NES was terrible console

#36 Posted by scottpsfan14 (3789 posts) -

NES was terrible console

What was better in 1985?

#37 Edited by Heirren (16546 posts) -

NES was terrible console

elaborate.

NES was about pure gameplay. Any console that reaches extreme popularity will get some garbage, but there's so many classics on the console that play just as well now as they did then. It is one of the best consoles without question. You are in the minority, here. The NES is an inspiration for so many games and game developers it is actually rather ridiculous; pixel "art" and even the "chip tune" tone of the console is still used to this day.

#38 Edited by SYSTEM-REBOOT (646 posts) -
@Heirren said:

@system-reboot said:

NES was terrible console

elaborate.

NES was about pure gameplay. Any console that reaches extreme popularity will get some garbage, but there's so many classics on the console that play just as well now as they did then. It is one of the best consoles without question. You are in the minority, here. The NES is an inspiration for so many games and game developers it is actually rather ridiculous; pixel "art" and even the "chip tune" tone of the console is still used to this day.

hmm no. PC was superior in every way.

but if we talk about solely console. Atari consoles were better.

#39 Posted by foxhound_fox (87683 posts) -

Most of the SNES' RPGs were made by Square or Enix. That is just depressing to think about where they are now.

#40 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (7204 posts) -

PC was superior in every way.

Yeah, that's irrelevant. Just because PC is superior, which it always is, that doesn't make the NES a bad console.

but if we talk about solely console. Atari consoles were better.

And what did the Atari 7800 have that eclipsed the likes of Final Fantasy, Zelda, and Super Mario Bros 3?

#41 Posted by WitIsWisdom (3686 posts) -

Saying Atari and Sega was better than NES and SNES is laughable.

#42 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3474 posts) -

Sounds like you're nostalgic.

#43 Edited by SYSTEM-REBOOT (646 posts) -

Sounds like you're nostalgic.

I dont think so.

nintendo are not doing any favor other than rehashing 30 year old franchise again and again.

#44 Posted by StormyJoe (4901 posts) -

The best nintendo console of all time was the SNES, some say its the best console ever. Why don't they just keep coming out with classic RPG's and to keep up with the times start developing some new school shooters?

I actually thought the NES was better than SNES.

#45 Edited by KBFloYd (13176 posts) -

RPGs will save the wiiU?

lol... no

as for shooters...splatoon and devils third coming soon.

wont make a difference

#46 Posted by Roler42 (592 posts) -

Well, this thread was quite a waste of my time...

inb4lock tho

#47 Posted by Heil68 (43462 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

RPGs will save the wiiU?

lol... no

as for shooters...splatoon and devils third coming soon.

wont make a difference

Devils 3rd really isnt a shooter though?

#48 Edited by KBFloYd (13176 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@KBFloYd said:

RPGs will save the wiiU?

lol... no

as for shooters...splatoon and devils third coming soon.

wont make a difference

Devils 3rd really isnt a shooter though?

yes it is. an innovative one too.

#49 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3474 posts) -

@princessgomez92 said:

Sounds like you're nostalgic.

I dont think so.

nintendo are not doing any favor other than rehashing 30 year old franchise again and again.

Lol SNIPER.

#50 Posted by dobzilian (2490 posts) -

I never had a Nes as I was born in 85, my first generation was Snes and MD era with both and a amiga 500 (was utter crap). Those days are gone with higher costs and almost everything aimed towards a bunch of retards who need their hand held through a game from start to finish. If you want those kinds of games then look towards the indy scene as those days are gone.