Why does Xbone struggle in Japan but not in NA?

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#1 arkephonic
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Do North Americans just buy Xbox because Microsoft is an American company? Do Japanese buy Sony and Nintendo because they're Japanese companies? There's also the stereotype that Asians are more intelligent and as an American, I can assure you that I've heard plenty of stereotypes that Americans lack intelligence. Maybe there's some truth to it? If Japanese are smart enough to avoid the Xbox, I'd say they're pretty intelligent. The fact that it's so successful in America really isn't making a good case for our intelligence as a country. People in Europe and Asia probably laugh at us because we'll eat up any crappy product just as long as it's made in America.

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Why does Vita struggle in NA, but not in Japan?

Different products appeal to different markets. That is all there is to it.

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It's an American console that caters to western audiences.

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#5  Edited By QuadKnight
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News flash, the Xbone is struggling everywhere. It just had a price drop in UK due to poor sales, it's practically dead in mainland Europe and it's getting manhandled in its home territory (Have you seen Amazon US rankings lately?). MS are selling at a lower price than PS4 with free games and it's still getting bodied in its home turf.

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Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

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@charizard1605 said:

Why does Vita struggle in NA, but not in Japan?

Different products appeal to different markets. That is all there is to it.

It's mainly because handhelds are hugely popular in Japan due to very small living constraints. Other areas are worse than others. I had a friend from Korea who said that he and everyone he knew in Korea only gamed on handhelds because no one wanted to stay jam packed in their houses to game on consoles. He said that way of thinking is hugely common over there.

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@arkephonic: They don't have games that the japanese like and they like games on the other two consoles more. X1 is the dudebro console

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#9  Edited By MonsieurX
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Really?

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Japan is massively ethnocentric. Any product category in Japan that has well entrenched Japanese companies is dominated by those companies. The non Japanese brands that do well are successful because they do not face serious domestic competition and are typically worldwide iconic brands with long histories or prestige cache.

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#11  Edited By lamprey263
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Besides being American platform with no games catering to Japanese sensibilities, it's a console and not a handheld.

I keep saying, take that Milo tech demo, make it a Japanese schoolgirl instead of a little boy, Microsoft will be swimming in yen like Scrooge McDuck.

Maybe they do look down on American tech, then again I hear they love iPhones, but maybe they simply refuse to buy Samsung phones because they know they were probably made by Japanese expatriots in South Korea, as if that's a greater insult than buying American goods. Would go a long way in explaining how they don't like Gangnam Style, which is absurd because everyone loves Gangnam Style.

Anyhow, the OP reminded me of this old classic:

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@charizard1605 said:

Why does Vita struggle in NA, but not in Japan?

Different products appeal to different markets. That is all there is to it.

Nailed it on first response.

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japan is subtely racist toward other groups of people

usa is a melting pot filled with everyone where everyone comes together

try to wave down a taxi as a white person in japan i dare you they won't pick u up they hate stranger

now if ur japanese an wave a taxi in nyc ur gonna get one within a second

thats why i hate japan and thats why im speaking against japan there ppl are racist and they are not smarter then us

USA IS A MELTING pot filled with the best everything ever made we bring in asians too so it makes us smarter were everything while japan is just japan u notice that?

thats why america is number 1 it gets everything from everywhere and doesn't hate or not let other ppl in

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@ProtossX said:

japan is subtely racist toward other groups of people

usa is a melting pot filled with everyone where everyone comes together

try to wave down a taxi as a white person in japan i dare you they won't pick u up they hate stranger

now if ur japanese an wave a taxi in nyc ur gonna get one within a second

thats why i hate japan and thats why im speaking against japan there ppl are racist and they are not smarter then us

USA IS A MELTING pot filled with the best everything ever made we bring in asians too so it makes us smarter were everything while japan is just japan u notice that?

thats why america is number 1 it gets everything from everywhere and doesn't hate or not let other ppl in

I've flagged down plenty of taxi's in Japan with zero problem and i'm white? I think you you like just throw insane ideas out there, and hope one sticks.

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@ProtossX said:

japan is subtely racist toward other groups of people

usa is a melting pot filled with everyone where everyone comes together

try to wave down a taxi as a white person in japan i dare you they won't pick u up they hate stranger

now if ur japanese an wave a taxi in nyc ur gonna get one within a second

thats why i hate japan and thats why im speaking against japan there ppl are racist and they are not smarter then us

USA IS A MELTING pot filled with the best everything ever made we bring in asians too so it makes us smarter were everything while japan is just japan u notice that?

thats why america is number 1 it gets everything from everywhere and doesn't hate or not let other ppl in

lol

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@ProtossX said:

japan is subtely racist toward other groups of people

usa is a melting pot filled with everyone where everyone comes together

try to wave down a taxi as a white person in japan i dare you they won't pick u up they hate stranger

now if ur japanese an wave a taxi in nyc ur gonna get one within a second

thats why i hate japan and thats why im speaking against japan there ppl are racist and they are not smarter then us

USA IS A MELTING pot filled with the best everything ever made we bring in asians too so it makes us smarter were everything while japan is just japan u notice that?

thats why america is number 1 it gets everything from everywhere and doesn't hate or not let other ppl in

@ProtossX said:

Xbone America. U.K. Leader the relevant markets that buy games IE: Apple > Android

its the same thing relevant buying good users that you can count on it to purchase your software and good faithed people

i don't trust the other countries

Man, you're on fire today

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@DJ-Lafleur said:

Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

This is what japan is interested in:

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@skelly34 said:

@DJ-Lafleur said:

Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

This is what japan is interested in:

Generalizations are amazing.

I guess all Americans are also interested in mindless trash shooters like Call of Duty clones, amirite?

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Xbox is the first console to have success without support of Japan .and the Japanese hate that they can't control gaming .it has cost them big time think they are 3rd in world now .Xbox helped the US and UK over take them

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pretty sure you're perpetuating the belief that americans are stupid.

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@charizard1605 said:

Why does Vita struggle in NA, but not in Japan?

Different products appeal to different markets. That is all there is to it.

Nope. There is that cultural difference and Japanese society is still insular in nature (especially since most of them can't understand English). 3DS is doing fine in NA. Vita just lacks games that appeal to people like Pokemon.

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@lordlors said:

@charizard1605 said:

Why does Vita struggle in NA, but not in Japan?

Different products appeal to different markets. That is all there is to it.

Nope. There is that cultural difference and Japanese society is still insular in nature (especially since most of them can't understand English). 3DS is doing fine in NA. Vita just lacks games that appeal to people like Pokemon.

Why exactly should they understand English? Do Americans understand Japanese?

And Xbox One lacks games to appeal to Japanese, is that so hard to understand?

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@charizard1605 said:

@skelly34 said:

@DJ-Lafleur said:

Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

This is what japan is interested in:

Generalizations are amazing.

I guess all Americans are also interested in mindless trash shooters like Call of Duty clones, amirite?

Only the countries that won WW2 enjoy war-based video games.

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@skelly34 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@skelly34 said:

@DJ-Lafleur said:

Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

This is what japan is interested in:

Generalizations are amazing.

I guess all Americans are also interested in mindless trash shooters like Call of Duty clones, amirite?

Only the countries that won WW2 enjoy war-based video games.

Lol.

Please tell me you are just messing around, and you're not actually like this.

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@charizard1605 said:

@skelly34 said:

@DJ-Lafleur said:

Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

This is what japan is interested in:

Generalizations are amazing.

I guess all Americans are also interested in mindless trash shooters like Call of Duty clones, amirite?

Um, since when is CoD a garbage shooter?

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#26 N64DD
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Can we talk objectively about cultural tastes without being racist towards all of Japan?

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#27  Edited By Bigboi500
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@mems_1224 said:

pretty sure you're perpetuating the belief that americans are stupid.

You need look no further than the US public school system for proof of that.

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@mems_1224 said:

Um, since when is CoD a garbage shooter?

Since post Modern Warfare...

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@mems_1224 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@skelly34 said:

@DJ-Lafleur said:

Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

This is what japan is interested in:

Generalizations are amazing.

I guess all Americans are also interested in mindless trash shooters like Call of Duty clones, amirite?

Um, since when is CoD a garbage shooter?

Read again. I didn't say CoD is garbage. I said its clones are.

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@n64dd said:

Can we talk objectively about cultural tastes without being racist towards all of Japan?

That would require a level of intelligence and maturity that most members of this board are simply unable to exhibit.

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@nyadc said:

@mems_1224 said:

Um, since when is CoD a garbage shooter?

Since post Modern Warfare...

i wouldn't say they're garbage unless we're talking exclusively about the treyarch ones. MW2 was alright, Advance Warfare was really good too.

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@charizard1605 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@skelly34 said:

@DJ-Lafleur said:

Xbox tends to focus more on the PEW PEW KAPLOWIE type games instead of the ANIMU KAWAII DESU type games.

This is what japan is interested in:

Generalizations are amazing.

I guess all Americans are also interested in mindless trash shooters like Call of Duty clones, amirite?

Um, since when is CoD a garbage shooter?

Read again. I didn't say CoD is garbage. I said its clones are.

Leave Halo 4 alone :P

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@charizard1605 said:

@n64dd said:

Can we talk objectively about cultural tastes without being racist towards all of Japan?

That would require a level of intelligence and maturity that most members of this board are simply unable to exhibit.

Amen to that. I mod one of the largest photography forums on the web. I feel you're pain.

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#34  Edited By inb4uall
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How is everyone in this thread not banned?

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We are through with this thread. It started out fine, but blatant jingoism and racism will not be tolerated.

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the biggest reason why the X-1 isnt selling in Japan is because there is no games that appeal to them. A lot of the games that it has, can be played on PC/PS4 so they don't see the purpose of purchasing the X-1. Even their Japan exclusive games are not something that says "Must Have"