Why does System Wars bash the shit out of doom 3?

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#1 Edited by uninspiredcup (6911 posts) -
#2 Posted by MonsieurX (28711 posts) -

Because you touch yourself at night

#3 Edited by freedomfreak (38246 posts) -

I do get carried away with praising boxarts, this is true.

#4 Posted by ominous_titan (452 posts) -

Doom3 was great imo. Love old school fps

#5 Edited by Mozelleple112 (6611 posts) -

Who hates on Doom 3?

It wasn't even that good of a game, just a graphics king / tech demo with decent gameplay.

#6 Posted by blangenakker (2067 posts) -

I guess they just don't like it *shrugs*

#7 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3239 posts) -

Great game. I'll play it on Nightmare sometime.

#8 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6599 posts) -

I liked Doom 3. It was the last good old school-style FPS that I have played, which is kind of sad.

#9 Posted by jg4xchamp (46675 posts) -

Game sucks.

That's why.

#10 Edited by marcheegsr (2431 posts) -

Why do they bash every game? Or simply.. why even care?

#11 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (6869 posts) -

Doom 3 is awesome. Scares the shit out of me.

#12 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (15806 posts) -

I liked it. it's one of the few fps games which can have every training wheel turned off. Crysis 3 and Far Cry 3 (with a hex editor) are a couple more. I like my game screen uncluttered.

#13 Posted by Joedgabe (5090 posts) -

Doom 3 was okay. A shit load better than crysis 3 that's for sure.

#14 Posted by Krelian-co (10057 posts) -

or maybe people like both, of course for someone as dumb as tc you can only choose one and it must be doom 3 because it is for teh hardcore gamerzzzzzz

#15 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (15806 posts) -
@Joedgabe said:

Doom 3 was okay. A shit load better than crysis 3 that's for sure.

I found Crysis 3 okay also once I turned off its training wheels and the screen uncluttered. It wasn't the corridor or linear path that was bugging me. But, rather all the extra junk onscreen.

#16 Posted by JangoWuzHere (15929 posts) -

Expectations for Doom 3 were far greater then Dead Space. Doom 3 was hyped to be one of the greatest games of the decade, but it simply turned out to be a great tech demo with so-so shooting.

#17 Posted by IMAHAPYHIPPO (2537 posts) -

Because Doom 3 is the epitome of the PC shooter and the kinds of gamers associated with PC gaming. It was the kind of game that boasted revolutionary graphics and was incredibly bland and boring.

#18 Posted by DocSanchez (1406 posts) -

I'm not one of the bashers but I didn't get to play it at the time. I revisited it thanks to buying a doom collection on steam and it's not aged well. I can still happily play the originals but 3 is a game I could never warm to. Can't quite explain why.

#19 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (12834 posts) -

Because ID stopped being a good dev after quake 3.

#20 Posted by mems_1224 (45786 posts) -

Because its a horrible game

#21 Posted by g0ddyX (3872 posts) -

Great at the time. The graphics as well as the atmosphere were good.
But old school fps has been overtaken by the likes of the new COD and Battlefield franchises.
Dead Space is a good sci fi horror action game too.

#22 Posted by nutcrackr (12282 posts) -

doom 3 was an excellent shooter back in 2004. They dared to actually bring some sci-fi story in explaining what the creatures were. Kept good atmosphere, had plenty of varieties and different baddies. Lots of side rooms and hidden codes. It does have quite a few similarities with Dead Space and I love both games.. Monster closets to scare you and good weaponry. 100x better than RAGE.

#23 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16476 posts) -

I loved Doom 3. The expansion...not so much.

#24 Posted by Krelian-co (10057 posts) -

doom 3 was an excellent shooter back in 2004. They dared to actually bring some sci-fi story in explaining what the creatures were. Kept good atmosphere, had plenty of varieties and different baddies. Lots of side rooms and hidden codes. It does have quite a few similarities with Dead Space and I love both games.. Monster closets to scare you and good weaponry. 100x better than RAGE.

am i the only one who liked rage? :(

#25 Posted by PyratRum (547 posts) -

I thought Doom 3 was great. Hell, I liked it enough to play through it few times on both the PC and Xbox.

One thing I wish was included in the BFG Edition was the co-op mode from the Xbox version, that was pretty dope.

#26 Posted by jhonMalcovich (4348 posts) -

Nobody was bashing it /thread

#27 Posted by cainetao11 (15902 posts) -

Because you touch yourself at night

LOL, you are quick.

#28 Edited by killatwill15 (845 posts) -

I got that game right now,

and will always own it based carmack be praised.

honestly the game bests others (graphically, stylistically) in my opinion,

I still think its the graphics king, and other games need to employ hard lighting,

It gives game a noir-ish aesthetic.

and for people with pc's,

download the dark mod. http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/15105-torrent-for-20/

pretty banging

#29 Posted by lamprey263 (22450 posts) -

It came out almost 10 years ago, it was pretty good back then, these days it's not held up too well.

When it comes to a possible Doom 4, I think more people are probably more cynical about id Software's abilities after games like Rage, and possibly due to their close relationship with Raven Software who botched the last Wolfenstein game, as well as a pretty unremarkable Quake 4.

#30 Posted by jake44 (1908 posts) -

I thought Doom 3 was great.

#31 Edited by zeeshanhaider (2207 posts) -

Because it's a shitty game?

#32 Posted by superclocked (5823 posts) -

I liked it. It was scarier than anything else out there at the time...

#33 Edited by superbuuman (2527 posts) -

dumb design..the whole design was just to be so dark that you can't see shit..just because they want to force you to use torchlight..do you know how dumb it is that in their realm with all that tech..there's no torch mounted guns or light mounted helmet? :P Average game.

#34 Posted by drekula2 (1880 posts) -

because it wasn't a great game. it removed all the personality from the first 2 doom games and replaced it with a linear corridor shooter

#35 Posted by lamprey263 (22450 posts) -

I liked it. It was scarier than anything else out there at the time...

yeah, I remember when I was living with my parents at the time I'd play it in the dark with headphones on, my mom would sneak up behind me and tap me on the shoulder and freak me out

#36 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (15806 posts) -

@superbuuman said:

dumb design..the whole design was just to be so dark that you can't see shit..just because they want to force you to use torchlight..do you know how dumb it is that in their realm with all that tech..there's no torch mounted guns or light mounted helmet? :P Average game.

If I see something in the dark heading my way with a light, guess what will I shoot first? Tech or no tech, I'll aim at that light. The flashlight as it was is fine. Besides, there are tons of flashlight mods if you want to go that route.

The dark is fine.

#37 Posted by bobbetybob (19087 posts) -

Most people who were upset by Doom 3 were upset because it wasn't like the other games. They took a shooter series and turned it into a horror game. Your constant need to bash a 6 year old game is admirable though, keep up the Dead Space hate.

#38 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (8611 posts) -

Uhm. Who hates Doom 3 ?

Ive heard nothing but good things about this game, even FEAR gets more hate than Doom 3.

Come On System Whores !

#39 Posted by naz99 (995 posts) -

Never seen anyone on System Wars Bash Doom3

More Nonsense

#40 Posted by Newhopes (4444 posts) -

One of the worst shooters I ve played, bored me senseless.

#41 Posted by Wasdie (49335 posts) -

Pretty sure the majority of gamers across the internet bash Doom 3.

It's not that the game is bad, it's actually decent and has great graphics for the time. It was more about how far the game strayed from the original formula. Everybody was expecting hordes of enemies and a relentless pace just like Doom II. Instead they got some survival/horror FPS basically taking a 180 on everything that made Doom 1 and 2 so loved.

#42 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16095 posts) -

I do get carried away with praising boxarts, this is true.

Rightfully so, Dead Space has an amazing looking boxart.

#43 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16095 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Pretty sure the majority of gamers across the internet bash Doom 3.

It's not that the game is bad, it's actually decent and has great graphics for the time. It was more about how far the game strayed from the original formula. Everybody was expecting hordes of enemies and a relentless pace just like Doom II. Instead they got some survival/horror FPS basically taking a 180 on everything that made Doom 1 and 2 so loved.

The criticisms I saw, and those are from a decade ago, were about how the game looked good but the gameplay was stuck in the past.

It had some pretty tough competition with Far Cry and Half Life 2 and those games were just way better.

#44 Edited by clone01 (24171 posts) -
#45 Posted by Wasdie (49335 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@Wasdie said:

Pretty sure the majority of gamers across the internet bash Doom 3.

It's not that the game is bad, it's actually decent and has great graphics for the time. It was more about how far the game strayed from the original formula. Everybody was expecting hordes of enemies and a relentless pace just like Doom II. Instead they got some survival/horror FPS basically taking a 180 on everything that made Doom 1 and 2 so loved.

The criticisms I saw, and those are from a decade ago, were about how the game looked good but the gameplay was stuck in the past.

It had some pretty tough competition with Far Cry and Half Life 2 and those games were just way better.

I always hear a mix of where the hate stems from. I've come to the conclusion that people didn't necessarily find Doom 3 to be a bad game but it was just a bad Doom game not worthy of the title.

I've played Doom 3 and I never thought it was a bad game, but you could tell the emphasis was put on the technical side of the game rather than with it's gameplay. It's a case of graphics guiding gameplay which isn't really the best design.

#46 Edited by Some-Mist (5630 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu said:

Uhm. Who hates Doom 3 ?

Ive heard nothing but good things about this game, even FEAR gets more hate than Doom 3.

Come On System Whores !

it truly isn't that great of a game. you probably don't see much hate about it on here because there really isn't much of a retro community here any more.

I actually had it day one (still have my original copy) and enjoyed it for what it was... but it definitely wasn't a doom game. hell, I keep seeing people throw the term "old school FPS around", but Doom 3 was pretty linear made primarily of skinny corridors. It was very different from the other titles in the series. It's not a problem if it's not exactly like the other titles - though the fanboy in me cries - but at least make sure the process isn't rinse and repeat (flash light tag). Not to mention the horribly balanced (overpowered) end game weaponry.

the flashlight concept (keeping the mods out of discussion) was a very artificial way to add tension/intensity to the gameplay. the lighting is truly dumb too - areas where there are clearly lights in the ceiling or on the walls that are bright, but surround areas that are dark for some reason.

it's actually been downhill for id since Q3A. Hell, I'm surprised you haven't made a doom 3 thread on "how it isn't truly an old school FPS" or "how it has a fake open world".

#47 Posted by glez13 (8500 posts) -

Because it was like a very bad survival horror game that only did the themes and atmosphere well and sucked balls as a FPS for the most part.

#48 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (15806 posts) -

Back in 2004, I wasn't too fond of Doom 3 which is why I haven't finished it up to now. But, after seeing the current crop of FPS games become more and more uh, "glitzy," that old game is starting to look good to me because of its simplistic approach.

#49 Edited by wis3boi (30901 posts) -

Nobody was bashing it /thread

yeah but OP making shit up is his bait :P

#50 Edited by uninspiredcup (6911 posts) -

@glez13 said:

Because it was like a very bad survival horror game that only did the themes and atmosphere well and sucked balls as a FPS for the most part.

It was? On Nightmare (i.e. not easy as fuck) resources are incredibly limited and the player dies near enough 1 hit. Please explain how mechanically it is a bad "survival horror" my friend, because I don't agree. I would go as far to say you are wrong as fuck on the matter.