Why Does A Big Budget PC-Exclusive Like Arma 3 Look So...Mediocre?

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#1 black_chamber99
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where are these supposed master race graphics? its not like this is some small indie title. this game has a real budget behind it, and yet the end result is 360-ps3 level at best. when are those $2000 rigs gonna get a real workout? when next-gen ports make their way over to pc? its sad when even pc excluvies aren't even pushing the hardware

 

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eww, look at all these gross textures

 

multiplayer looks even worse. battlefield bad company 2 had better graphics

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO3oIwX_eNs

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#2 silversix_
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Looks so bad that it looks better than 100% of current console titles.
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#3 Mozelleple112
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Jesus christ, it looks so "bad" because it has a map that is probably larger than GTA V, with WAY more special effects, everything being rendered in REAL TIME and having 2000 AI battles, etc.

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#4 soulitane
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and yet the current gen consoles can't even hope to run it at the levels shown there, funny that.
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#5 PcGamingRig
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It looks better than pretty much any console game out there.

And the size of it would melt any console that tried to run it.

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#6 Sweenix
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jebus is gunna be mad

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#8 PcGamingRig
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Jesus christ, it looks so "bad" because it has a map that is probably larger than GTA V, with WAY more special effects, everything being rendered in REAL TIME and having 2000 AI battles, etc.

Mozelleple112

This as well, you can't put ridiculous detail in every aspect in a game of ARMA's size as it would cost too much and be damn near impossible to get working properly.

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#9 FLOPPAGE_50
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This game couldn't even run on the PS4.

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#10 black_chamber99
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This game couldn't even run on the PS4.

FLOPPAGE_50

are you f%king kidding me? I can run arma 3 on my shitty low-end dual core. ps4 would eat this game for breakfast

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#11 Ben-Buja
Member since 2011 • 2809 Posts

This looks mediocre to you?

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#12 homeboylizard
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Because it's gameplay over graphics. Arma is a simulator...and that is it's selling point. If you want eye candy with decent gameplay go play Battlefield. If you want real tactics then you go Arma.

But...the pics you posted look better than anything that is currently on consoles. Only game that might competeis TLoU but it's level-based. This is open world.

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#13 Lucianu
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You know the thread starter isn't thinking straight wen most of his own screenshots are against his argument. Fail.

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#14 GiantAssPanda
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Never been a fan of military simulators but ARMA3 looks brilliant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e02UeEbQH8M That's an old video, though so the game probably looks even better now.

You know the thread starter isn't thinking straight wen most of his own screenshots are against his argument. Fail.

Lucianu
Was thinking the same :D
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#15 StrongBlackVine
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Just another boring sim so who cares?

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#16 Puckhog04
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My only issue with ArmA 3 is the poor optimization. Though that seems to be a trend lately.

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#17 Lumpy311
Member since 2013 • 2009 Posts

Consolites obviously jelly, you will never get a game that looks this good with so many stuff going on.

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#18 tenaka2
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This looks mediocre to you?

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Ben-Buja

My eyes are bleeding! Look at all the jaggies!

Halo 1 on the original xbox looks better then that.

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#19 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

This looks mediocre to you?

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tenaka2

My eyes are bleeding! Look at all the jaggies!

Halo 1 on the original xbox looks better then that.

I hope you're joking. That is almost photorealistic. Have you even played Halo 1? :roll:

*sigh* Why do I even bother with ignorance...

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#20 clyde46
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My only issue with ArmA 3 is the poor optimization. Though that seems to be a trend lately.

Puckhog04
Arma has always suffered from that.
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#21 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

My only issue with ArmA 3 is the poor optimization. Though that seems to be a trend lately.

clyde46

Arma has always suffered from that.

True. It's a shame too.

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#22 parkurtommo
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It has good graphics, just not good post processing, no artistic touch ups.

IMO, if you're going for a realistic aesthetic, make it look BETTER than reality, the ARMA devs don't know how to do this.

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#23 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

My only issue with ArmA 3 is the poor optimization. Though that seems to be a trend lately.

Puckhog04

Arma has always suffered from that.

True. It's a shame too.

That would the fault of the engine. Its gotten better since the first game though.
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#24 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Arma has always suffered from that. clyde46

True. It's a shame too.

That would the fault of the engine. Its gotten better since the first game though.

Very true as well. Hopefully ArmA IV makes it perfect...though doubtful. One can hope.

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#25 parkurtommo
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Because devs know that 99% of the hermits have low spec machines

Davekeeh
And that's exactly why Arma runs well on low spec machines... Oh, wait!
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#27 Puckhog04
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Hermits like to say that consoles are holding gaming back, but the reality is, their inferior low spec computers do

Davekeeh

Judging from hardware already available; your precious consoles are the "low spec computers".

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#28 Lumpy311
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Hermits like to say that consoles are holding gaming back, but the reality is, their inferior low spec computers do

Davekeeh

Not really, 10 million PCs are already better than the PS4, and it isn't even released, thanks for holding back gaming, Sony.

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#29 FoxbatAlpha
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The Arma series rulez! I never had a problem with the visuals and always ran them close to maxed. A sim like this is not for COD fanboys anyway.
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#30 megaspiderweb09
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Even if ARMA has technical defeciencies, what it accomplishes is way above and beyond what consoles can achieve, Heck i want a console version of ARMA on the PS4 if possible:(

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#31 Lumpy311
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Even if ARMA has technical defeciencies, what it accomplishes is way above and beyond what consoles can achieve, Heck i want a console version of ARMA on the PS4 if possible:(

megaspiderweb09

Keep begging consolite

 

 

Just kidding.

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#32 pelvist
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Jesus christ, it looks so "bad" because it has a map that is probably larger than GTA V, with WAY more special effects, everything being rendered in REAL TIME and having 2000 AI battles, etc.

Mozelleple112

 

Its 4 times the size of GTAV map.

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#33 pelvist
Member since 2010 • 9001 Posts

Just another boring sim so who cares?

StrongBlackVine

 

Arma 3 isnt a sim. VBS is a sim.

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#34 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Hermits like to say that consoles are holding gaming back, but the reality is, their inferior low spec computers do

Puckhog04

Judging from hardware already available; your precious consoles are the "low spec computers".

Zing!
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#35 kipsta77
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Because devs know that 99% of the hermits have low spec machines

Davekeeh

Right....

Anyways, how is Arma3? Worth picking up? Infact if I'm accepted into the Steam Sharing beta, I'll just borrow it from a buddy!

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#36 uninspiredcup
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It's probably the most photorealistic shooter around, taking place in 270km enviroment.

It's also an actual pc game with depth and scope and thinking. Consoles dont have titles like these, mostly X = win. Always X.

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#37 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Because devs know that 99% of the hermits have low spec machines

kipsta77

Right....

Anyways, how is Arma3? Worth picking up? Infact if I'm accepted into the Steam Sharing beta, I'll just borrow it from a buddy!

 

Some of the user missions are dire. Thankfully the rating systems on steamworkshop helps root out the good from the shit.

I played a few hours of COOP yesterday and it's fun. Night missions are particularly good as you feel like a James Bond (Timothy Daltan) badass. And you get tacticool lazers that only show up with night vision.

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#38 AdrianWerner
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Two things:

-Arma III is in no shape or form "big budget"

-Arma III pushes even the strongest PCs to the max and it would melt next-gen consoles. But it's the scale that's pushing it, not detail. I know console gamers are used to petite linear levels, so I will use analogy. Seen Killzone 3? Looks good, doesn't it? But it looks mediocre as hell compared to Fight Night details-wise.

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#40 jhonMalcovich
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Hermits like to say that consoles are holding gaming back, but the reality is, their inferior low spec computers do

Davekeeh

No. 8-year cycle consoles do. Doh.

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#41 FoxbatAlpha
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This is ARMA. Beautiful.

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#42 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Hermits like to say that consoles are holding gaming back, but the reality is, their inferior low spec computers do

Motokid6
99% of Davekeeh's posts are the exact same thing over and over again... Seriously dude how many times are you going to pull that fake statistic out of your ass? Troll harder jerkoff. And say something new for once.

When people like you respond to it.
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#43 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Just another boring sim so who cares?

pelvist

 

Arma 3 isnt a sim. VBS is a sim.

What's the difference between the two besides VBS being tailored more for a country's military training?

Wouldn't it be similar to X-Plane 10 vs X-Plane 10 Pro (FAA-spec) and MS Flight Simulator X vs Lockheed Martin's Prepar3D?

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#44 lhughey
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You also have to keep in mind that this a photo realistic art style is much harder to produce than a stylized environment like that of Killzone.
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#45 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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 are you f%king kidding me? I can run arma 3 on my shitty low-end dual core. ps4 would eat this game for breakfast

black_chamber99

Maybe that's why it looks bad to you because a system like that has to run the game at low. 

If the PS4 can't do BF4 at 1080p 60fps at high settings then there's no hope for it running Arma III in its current state

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#46 ShepardCommandr
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Nah it actually looks quite nice but the game is completely unoptimized which makes it unplayble even on high end rigs.

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#48 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Motokid6"] 99% of Davekeeh's posts are the exact same thing over and over again... Seriously dude how many times are you going to pull that fake statistic out of your ass? Troll harder jerkoff. And say something new for once. Motokid6
When people like you respond to it.

Idk what that means. Are you Davekeeh? Because that's who I was responding too.

Hurr hurr, he will keep posting that shit if people like you bite...
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#49 GarGx1
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Motokid6"] 99% of Davekeeh's posts are the exact same thing over and over again... Seriously dude how many times are you going to pull that fake statistic out of your ass? Troll harder jerkoff. And say something new for once. Motokid6
When people like you respond to it.

Idk what that means. Are you Davekeeh? Because that's who I was responding too.

What Clyde is pointing out is the DaveKeeh's of system wars i.e terrible trolls who seem to think they are getting some kind of rise out people, will continue to post the same drivle time and time again for as long people quote and reply to them.

Don't feed the trolls, doesn't just mean don't argue with them. The best thing to do is ignore them and never quote or respond in any way. Besides it's a lot more fun to watch a troll melt down from lack of attention that it is to give them what they want.

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#50 NFJSupreme
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this was a joke thread right?