Why do you not want Final Fantasy XII HD?

At the time of its release, no one cared, and those who did were disappointed. Yet as time has gone by, Final Fantasy XII has emerged as not just one of the most progressive games in the series, but a prescient RPG in general, and one of the best games in a franchise that has no shortage of amazing games.

Final Fantasy XII had:

• Amazing graphics. Seriously, this game aged wonderfully. Look at how good it looks- a minor touch up, and this will be good to go for today's audience
• Actual, good writing. After how shitty the writing was in Final Fantasy X, and later, in Final Fantasy XIII, it's easy to forget that Final Fantasy can actually have some crisp writing sometimes- such was the case with Final Fantasy XII.
• The music. Dear God, the music.
• The story- Final Fantasy XII differs from the rest of the series in that it takes the focus squarely away from interpersonal drama and character growth, and chooses to focus on the larger political struggle, the bigger picture issues facing the world, and it is better for it.
• The gameplay was amazing- the battle system was one that many western RPGs would try to emulate down the line, and it still holds up (though some parts could use some tweaking), and the game offered amazing freedom. After how restricted X and XIII were, XII can seem like an almost jarring culture shock.

We want Final Fantasy XII HD. Arguably one of the three best games in the series, it deserves its time in the sun. Do the right thing, Square Enix, give it an HD re-release. You better announce it this E3.

Despite Vaan's gurliness, yes I do want FFXII HD.

I'll eat up anything with a numbered Final Fantasy so yeah.

I hear the international version of FFXII or whatever it was called (Zodiac something something...) is supposed to be actually good, but I really didn't care that much for FFXII.

-The battle system didn't really do anything for me. Summons were completely useless, quickenings became less and less useful the more I got into the game from what I recall, and it was best to resevre your MP for, well, magic. gambit system was a neat idea but I never really drew me in. Didn't really need to bother with it much either TBH. Only thing I can really say positively about the battle system is that it conveniently kept all battles on the world map and didn;t take time to go to another screen.

-the world was open, yeah, but that meant nothing to me as I never really found it to be a world worth traversing. ONly time I ever really bothered exploring was when doing those monster quests. Didn't actually find the world engaging like I would, say, a Zelda game's world or a Metroid game's, or some other FF's or JRPGs.

-license system was dumb.

-Music wasn't bad, but was probably the most forgettable soundtrack to me.

-Graphics were better, sure, but I still much prefer some of the more fantastical worlds of FFIX, FFX or FFXIII, or the worlds of FFVI and FFVII which did a great job of mixing a medieval setting with more of a technological/modern one. FFXII in comparison didn't really stand out as much when compared to other 3D FF's.

-I didn't really care for FFXII's story either. The main cast was pretty underwhelming and uninteresting, Vaan was shit and shouldn't have been treated as the main character. And I remember finding all the political stuff hard to follow as well when I played, which made it harder to give a shit about what was going on, but maybe that was just me. Writing/dialogue was pretty well handled though when compared to other FF games sure, shitty Vaan aside. Just too bad that writing couldn't have been in a story actually worth caring about.

The one thing I did overall kind of like was the monster quests, but the main quest and alot of the features FFXII offered just fell flat for me, and for that reason FFXII is easily one of my least favorite FF games, only beating out FFIII.

Thought it was a mediocre FF. Probably start of the downfall of the series.

Agree on the story part, loved the politics.

Disagree with all of that I see it as one of the worst in the series

Vaan was awfull as a main character, the music was terrible in comparison to games before it and the battle system felt like an offline mmo.

.I was far to bored to play past a couple hours.

I really want FF XII HD but...really? Good writing? In FF XII? Are you jokin?

So you're saying a game that lack focus on their character so even I can't tell who the **** the main character is...and so many party members with zero personality... had good writing? We're starting the game with Vaan as main character, but in the middle part we focus on Basch, and at the ending we focus to Balthier. So after the ending I felt...confused, what story did FF XII really want to tell? Because seriously I don't know. The story starts out great, but the lack of focus on the characters really hurt me. Final Fantasy is all about the characters, unlike Elder Scrolls series. At least in FF X every characters has personality, such as Wakka who really hate Al-Bhed but starting to accept it after he knew Rikku and Yuna are Al-Bhed too. And FF X focus on Tidus and Yuna's relationship and Yuna's sacrifice on their journey to defeat Sin. And then the ending!! God I really cried when I first watched FF X ending. I knew it was gonna happen, but I don't think Square will pull it off. Thank God I was wrong.

But despite the abrupt storyline I gotta admit I still want to play FF XII. The gameplay was better than FF X. The sidequest are far better than FF X. The world and monster design are better than FF X. The graphics are beautiful. That's the reason I wanna play FF XII HD. On my Vita please....after seeing how ugly Xenoblade Chronicles 3D played on New3DS. Everyone began to think that we can not play big RPG on handeld. So if FF XII release on Vita, well...people will believe the handeld again

I'd love to see a FFXII HD, the game was great. Indeed after X, it felt very different and it was hard to like the world for what it was after being in love with Spira, so I personally never got around to playing much of it, however I did watch my sister play plenty (besides, she had older sibling privileges, there was little I could do anyways) and I ended up being left in awe with what I saw of the world.

So I say yeah, bring it on! For anything FFIX and earlier, I'd say remakes are the way to go (everyone here just knows that a FFVII remake reveal would just about finish E3 right there) but XII is a game worthy of a rerelease, and like you say, with graphics, battle system and the Sweet Mary Mother Of God Absolutely AMAZING orchestra, a FFXII HD remaster would be perfect.

P.S. @charizard1605 When you say FFX had shit writing, do you just mean the dialogue? Or are you referring to the entire plot? I can totally agree with the first, but the story in and of itself is amazing, personally.

Never properly played it, so I wouldn't mind.

@ianhh6: Dialog. The lore was great.

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED IT!!!!!!

@charizard1605: Then yeah, totally.

I'd totally buy a FF12 HD remake.

One of my favorite games of all time so I really want an HD release.

The visuals of this game impressed me more at the time than Gears of War did. The Gambit system was addicting for me. I love the characters and the music, but the standout is the world of Ivalice which is incredibly well-realized.

It's my most desired remaster.

I hated that game. It had horrible graphics, story and some of the worst combat. I think I made it half way through the game couldn't beat a boss so instead of grinding I just quite.

I didn't enjoy FFXII, especially the combat system, and didn't like the license system. Besides that, FFX was one of my favourite games of that generation, and I didn't even feel the need to get the HD version of that.

I really couldn't get into FFXII. It had all the parts a good JRPG should: The presentation, a setting rife with conflict, a giant diverse world, a nuanced combat system etc; but it spent almost no time outside of the opening few hours on its characters/story. I remember being bored to death fighting enemy after enemy with hardly a meaningful cutscene to break it up. I even went to the trouble of importing International Zodiac Job Edition and found the experience much the same (IZJE doesn't address story/character complaints).

Maybe the game gets much better later on, but I wouldn't know as I've never gotten more than 30 hours in. And if an RPGs story/characters can't hook you by then it's failed.

I don't care whether its sold again or not. I would rather buy a feces sculpture.

Probably because FFXII is fucking boring?

Because it is a waste of developer time when SE needs to put all men on deck to get XV out the door. They need to move the series forward because while cashing in on the past, they haven't exactly been delivering on the present.

When I played the demo years back, I really liked it. But the opportunity to play the full game never arrived unfortunately, so I wouldn't mind a remaster to be honest.

Already own the game for Ps2

I honestly never understood the praise 12 got.

Boring, generic characters. A forgettable story, and a bland ''world''. The combat was ok i guess? Like, think of the iconic set pieces of the older games. 12 had nothing.

I'd buy it (especially if it's the international zodiac version) and I think it's a lot better then FFX.

I would like to see a proper remake of FF V and VI. Right now I just started playing them both and so far I'm liking them. But again a proper remake and not those shitty phone versions. Man do they both look very ugly.

cause ff12 sucks

FFXII was probably the last really good game in the FF series. I wouldn't mind seeing a HD remaster of that.

I haven't played FF12, but the main concerns I've heard about the game was always how weak the story was. I heard the story feels unfinished due to an absence of a director mid development. The main protagonist is also terrible and has no bearing on the main plot.

Because it's shit.

Because FXII is a bad game.

Great story. Bad game.

Also, just because XIII was an atrocity, no one is gonna praise XII for being a less shit.

I actually enjoyed this game a lot. Still play it in fact. Getting things that I missed and I'm finally gonna finish it... hopefully this time. :P

I absolutely loved it on PS 2 , i wants it on HD but on PS 3 also as i still don't own a PS 4 :)

it was fun. Would I buy it again that would be a no. Still kinda annoyed they switch the lead since the lead we got feels so unimportant to everything. I also remember when the fanbase hated this game to death. Strange world we live in.

That's because Basch was originally supposed to be the protagonist, but after the original director left, Squenix changed the protagonist to Vaan.

Because FF12 sucked ass the first time? No, this isn't an opinion. Yes, it is fact. No, I will not argue. I win... nothing to see here.

I would love a FF12 HD, cause Balthier is the shit and 12 is vastly better than 10

ugh...I probably wont bother then.

Of course

That's easy, I can already play it in HD on PC. Also the games progression system is shit without Zodiac since you can make every character a god quite easily. Zodiac introduces a much needed level of challenge.

They should have remastered this first instead of X and brought with it the IZJS addons. Aesthetically, I feel it has a more modern appeal to it with a more explorable environment, great world design, elements of political fantasy which is somewhat popular these days and a gameplay system that's pretty traditional despite breaking away from the usual FF encounter structure. Where X had people realising its flaws and similarities to XIII once they returned to it.

Would be great if they bundled it with a remastered version of Revenant Wings, too. Because that game is awesome. I know people give Vaan and Penelo alot of crap for their awkward and seemingly out of place roles in XII, but they made up for it standing on their own as likeable and endearing characters in the enjoyable RTS spin off, while also making the appearances of the rest of the cast pretty cool.

I started my copy in HD *cough* a little while ago, but i've been sidetracked. I'd definitely pay for a PS4 version.

@charizard1605: Final Fantasy 12 was a messy game ... It felt like a BAD , literally BAD , single player MMORPG to me ! I used to be a huge FF fan , i got almost all FF games , even the crappy 13 .. but i never ever felt like playing FF12.. After 4-5 hours in it i couldnt bare with it. The start of the downfall of FF series despite its high scores and praise from various sources and some gamers.

Cause turn based RPG's are lame, just fucking attack the enimies don't stop make me chose something then do it, no satisfaction in that for me.

It's one of the three best games in the series. I'd love a remaster to play it in again.

Well you're in luck because Final Fantasy XII isn't a turn based game.

PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ announce this today Square!!!

@Aljosa23: well shit that's news to me, I didn't know they were making the gameplay better. Last I played Final Fantasy and fought an enemy. The game stopped let me choose attack, magic or an item and then my character did what ever I selected, then the same for the next person following me along, then the enemy attacked and repeated this until he was defeated. That's turn based