WHy do the consoles have the best looking games?

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#1 Edited by Alienware_fan (1514 posts) -

Even though they are way weaker than any recent high end pcs? Dosent it make pcs waste of resources? Multiplats barely looks better on pc. I coudnt see any difference in rivals 1600p vs 1080p on ps4.

#2 Edited by Netret0120 (2206 posts) -

This will end well

#3 Edited by crimsonman1245 (4253 posts) -

Consoles only have 1 sku for developers to focus on, and the console is built specifically for gaming, there are lots of different kinds of PCs with a wide range of power, and they are built to do everything.

#4 Edited by lundy86_4 (43541 posts) -

They don't. Next-gen titles are looking pretty sweet, but you still have games like Crysis 3 on the PC.

It's probably that new system hype... It's definitely that new system hype.

#5 Posted by clyde46 (46634 posts) -

At the moment, you either have great graphics or a great game, not both. Just look at KZ, looks fantastic, its boring as hell.

#6 Posted by chikenfriedrice (10530 posts) -

Because they don't

#7 Posted by Alienware_fan (1514 posts) -

Resolution is the biggest gimmic of them all, res such as 720p is perfectly fine as long as the graphics are good.

#8 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (13681 posts) -

Depends on the PC.

#9 Posted by Alienware_fan (1514 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu said:

Depends on the PC.

BS.

#10 Posted by clyde46 (46634 posts) -

@Alienware_fan said:

Resolution is the biggest gimmic of them all, res such as 720p is perfectly fine as long as the graphics are good.

>Resolution
>Gimmick

Dude...

#11 Posted by lundy86_4 (43541 posts) -

@Alienware_fan said:

Resolution is the biggest gimmic of them all, res such as 720p is perfectly fine as long as the graphics are good.

Right... No.

#12 Edited by Wasdie (50002 posts) -

They don't, console just get the games with a lot of presentation. Most PC exclusives don't make great showcases for commercials like the multiplatforms do.

It's not about graphics, it's about which games can be presented better. That should change with Star Citizen. For instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0gZES2pTWk

100% real time. Easily the best looking video game ever made. PC exclusive.

#13 Posted by jg4xchamp (48377 posts) -

Art direction?

Because they obviously aren't on a technical level. PC gets all the best looking shit.

#14 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (8198 posts) -

TC is blind.

#15 Edited by lostrib (37732 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

They don't, console just get the games with a lot of presentation. Most PC exclusives don't make great showcases for commercials like the multiplatforms do.

It's not about graphics, it's about which games can be presented better. That should change with Star Citizen. For instance:

100% real time. Easily the best looking video game ever made. PC exclusive.

Embedding of videos is broken I believe

#16 Edited by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

lol no

#17 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

Because you are playing on a piece of shit low spec PC. Console games don't look as good as my PC makes them look. Seems it is time for you to upgrade.

#18 Edited by Wasdie (50002 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Wasdie said:

They don't, console just get the games with a lot of presentation. Most PC exclusives don't make great showcases for commercials like the multiplatforms do.

It's not about graphics, it's about which games can be presented better. That should change with Star Citizen. For instance:

100% real time. Easily the best looking video game ever made. PC exclusive.

Embedding of videos is broken I believe

Poo.

Here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0gZES2pTWk

#19 Posted by lostrib (37732 posts) -

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

Because you are playing on a piece of shit low spec PC. Console games don't look as good as my PC makes them look. Seems it is time for you to upgrade.

Not if his sig is to be believed.

He's just a troll, he does this shit on other boards too including PC Games and previous PC hardware boards

#20 Posted by farrell2k (6367 posts) -

Consoles do have the best graphics, if you completely ignore the PC. The consoles are barely as powerful as $400 PC hardware. Console kids are delusional.

#21 Posted by lostrib (37732 posts) -

@farrell2k said:

Consoles do have the best graphics, if you completely ignore the PC. The consoles are barely as powerful as $400 PC hardware. Console kids are delusional.

You're delusional

#22 Posted by clyde46 (46634 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@farrell2k said:

Consoles do have the best graphics, if you completely ignore the PC. The consoles are barely as powerful as $400 PC hardware. Console kids are delusional.

You're delusional

Someone hasn't played KZ!

#23 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14454 posts) -

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted/KZ have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

#24 Edited by lostrib (37732 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Pretty sure that's not true

#25 Posted by clyde46 (46634 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Implying crowd funding is a bad thing.

#26 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14454 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Pretty sure that's not true

Given recent trends, I'd say it's closer to the truth than you might want to think.

Just look at star citizen, the current centerpiece of PC graphics. It relied heavily on fan funding.

#27 Edited by lostrib (37732 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Pretty sure that's not true

Given recent trends, I'd say it's closer to the truth than you might want to think.

I guess it depends what you mean by "serious PC titles" and then you have to look at if they are actually going for teh grafix. Because a lot of those crowd funded/kick starter/greenlight games are indie titles which are more about gameplay than graphics

#28 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14454 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Implying crowd funding is a bad thing.

Where did I say it was a bad thing? It's just further evidence that large studio's would rather chase the console money train than divert resources into the high end pc subculture.

#29 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14454 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Pretty sure that's not true

Given recent trends, I'd say it's closer to the truth than you might want to think.

I guess it depends what you mean by "serious PC titles" and then you have to look at if they are actually going for teh grafix. Because a lot of those crowd funded/kick starter/greenlight games are indie titles which are more about gameplay than graphics

Yeah, I was mostly referring to games that focus on immersion through high end graphics, I realize there's a booming indie scene.

#30 Posted by clyde46 (46634 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Implying crowd funding is a bad thing.

Where did I say it was a bad thing? It's just further evidence that large studio's would rather chase the console money train than divert resources into the high end pc subculture.

That console money train is getting harder and harder to get on. Just look at GTA5, it cost over 100,000$! It takes some serious cash to get games on consoles. Hell, there have been previous console devs moving to Kickstarter etc because they can't get publishers to fund them because the suits don't think they'll make enough money back.

There is obviously pro's and con's to crowd funding, the biggest pro in my eyes is you are not beholden to a publisher which means you don't have the suits breathing down your neck etc. However, on the flipside you are then beholden to the backers that gave you money in return for a finished product.

#31 Posted by lostrib (37732 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Implying crowd funding is a bad thing.

Where did I say it was a bad thing? It's just further evidence that large studio's would rather chase the console money train than divert resources into the high end pc subculture.

That console money train is getting harder and harder to get on. Just look at GTA5, it cost over 100,000$! It takes some serious cash to get games on consoles. Hell, there have been previous console devs moving to Kickstarter etc because they can't get publishers to fund them because the suits don't think they'll make enough money back.

There is obviously pro's and con's to crowd funding, the biggest pro in my eyes is you are not beholden to a publisher which means you don't have the suits breathing down your neck etc. However, on the flipside you are then beholden to the backers that gave you money in return for a finished product.

I assume you mean over 100 million? not $100,000

#32 Posted by clyde46 (46634 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Implying crowd funding is a bad thing.

Where did I say it was a bad thing? It's just further evidence that large studio's would rather chase the console money train than divert resources into the high end pc subculture.

That console money train is getting harder and harder to get on. Just look at GTA5, it cost over 100,000$! It takes some serious cash to get games on consoles. Hell, there have been previous console devs moving to Kickstarter etc because they can't get publishers to fund them because the suits don't think they'll make enough money back.

There is obviously pro's and con's to crowd funding, the biggest pro in my eyes is you are not beholden to a publisher which means you don't have the suits breathing down your neck etc. However, on the flipside you are then beholden to the backers that gave you money in return for a finished product.

I assume you mean over 100 million? not $100,000

You assume correctly.

#33 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14454 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@clyde46 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Alot of it comes down to the budget. 1st party games like Uncharted have a ton of capital thrown into them.

Most serious pc titles today have to survive off Kick starter to release even a working demo.

Implying crowd funding is a bad thing.

Where did I say it was a bad thing? It's just further evidence that large studio's would rather chase the console money train than divert resources into the high end pc subculture.

That console money train is getting harder and harder to get on. Just look at GTA5, it cost over 100,000$! It takes some serious cash to get games on consoles. Hell, there have been previous console devs moving to Kickstarter etc because they can't get publishers to fund them because the suits don't think they'll make enough money back.

There is obviously pro's and con's to crowd funding, the biggest pro in my eyes is you are not beholden to a publisher which means you don't have the suits breathing down your neck etc. However, on the flipside you are then beholden to the backers that gave you money in return for a finished product.

I agree, there's no clear cut best outcome here.

I honestly haven't been that impressed with the big name titles that have come from kick starters thus far, hopefully that changes.

#34 Posted by Alienware_fan (1514 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

Because you are playing on a piece of shit low spec PC. Console games don't look as good as my PC makes them look. Seems it is time for you to upgrade.

Not if his sig is to be believed.

He's just a troll, he does this shit on other boards too including PC Games and previous PC hardware boards

You think you're smart but you are probably dumber than most trolls here.

#35 Edited by lundy86_4 (43541 posts) -

@Alienware_fan said:

@lostrib said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

Because you are playing on a piece of shit low spec PC. Console games don't look as good as my PC makes them look. Seems it is time for you to upgrade.

Not if his sig is to be believed.

He's just a troll, he does this shit on other boards too including PC Games and previous PC hardware boards

You think you're smart but you are probably dumber than most trolls here.

Called out, eh? Suck it up, and take it up the bum, sunshine.

#36 Edited by DonnaTroy (232 posts) -

consoles have always had the best looking games.

#37 Edited by adamosmaki (9656 posts) -

Because if you aint gaming on a $3000 alienware you aint doing it correct you noob

#38 Posted by foxhound_fox (88743 posts) -

#39 Posted by lundy86_4 (43541 posts) -

@donnatroy said:

consoles have always had the best looking games.

Based on, what? Resolution? Texture resolution? AA method? AF Method? Particle effects? What?

#40 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

My PC must have a bug because Skyrim looks better on it then a console and the games are better and I can access the internet and I can and..and..and..

who do I report this bug to?

#41 Posted by Motokid6 (5722 posts) -

Alienware_fan ... uh... why would any of you move beyond that realization? Some of you actually took this topic seriously? ...

#42 Posted by Jankarcop (9627 posts) -

PC has the top 10 (in a row) gfx kings of each and every gen.

Stop trolling/lying.

#43 Edited by lostrib (37732 posts) -

@Alienware_fan said:

@lostrib said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

Because you are playing on a piece of shit low spec PC. Console games don't look as good as my PC makes them look. Seems it is time for you to upgrade.

Not if his sig is to be believed.

He's just a troll, he does this shit on other boards too including PC Games and previous PC hardware boards

You think you're smart but you are probably dumber than most trolls here.

No, I just act like I'm smart, but I know I'm dumb :P

How exactly am I trolling?

#44 Posted by millerlight89 (18567 posts) -

There are some amazing looking console games, but PC will usually have the best looking games. Consoles are more known for being better polish. Developers have this thing on PC where they like to release the game, and patch later...and sometimes never. It costs much more to release a patch on consoles than it does on PC>

#45 Posted by Jag85 (4616 posts) -

@Jankarcop said:

PC has the top 10 (in a row) gfx kings of each and every gen.

Stop trolling/lying.

No, it doesn't.

And I think both you and the OP need to stop trolling/lying.

#46 Edited by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@millerlight89 said:

There are some amazing looking console games, but PC will usually have the best looking games. Consoles are more known for being better polish. Developers have this thing on PC where they like to release the game, and patch later...and sometimes never. It costs much more to release a patch on consoles than it does on PC>

that is a myth actually. Its very rarely that I have issues running games.

What is true about the consoles is that they are better for group play and driving games. Which I admit many of us PC gamers dont do much of either

#47 Posted by lundy86_4 (43541 posts) -

@Jag85 said:

@Jankarcop said:

PC has the top 10 (in a row) gfx kings of each and every gen.

Stop trolling/lying.

No, it doesn't.

And I think both you and the OP need to stop trolling/lying.

You both need to name them... For the lulz.

#48 Posted by Jag85 (4616 posts) -

@SEANMCAD said:

@millerlight89 said:

There are some amazing looking console games, but PC will usually have the best looking games. Consoles are more known for being better polish. Developers have this thing on PC where they like to release the game, and patch later...and sometimes never. It costs much more to release a patch on consoles than it does on PC>

that is a myth actually. Its very rarely that I have issues running games.

What is true about the consoles is that they are better for group play and driving games. Which I admit many of us PC gamers dont do much of either

In other words, offline multiplayer. That's the main reason I use consoles for. Well, that and the console exclusives. Otherwise, I usually prefer playing multi-plats on PC.

#49 Posted by millerlight89 (18567 posts) -

@SEANMCAD said:

@millerlight89 said:

There are some amazing looking console games, but PC will usually have the best looking games. Consoles are more known for being better polish. Developers have this thing on PC where they like to release the game, and patch later...and sometimes never. It costs much more to release a patch on consoles than it does on PC>

that is a myth actually. Its very rarely that I have issues running games.

What is true about the consoles is that they are better for group play and driving games. Which I admit many of us PC gamers dont do much of either

PC games usually have more bugs. I don't need you telling me it is a myth. I have lived it for over a decade and a half. It's just the way it is. There are more variables to consider and it is easier to patch a PC game than a console game. I gave you two facts. Now, you give me something besides some experience you have which probably isn't true.

#50 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@Jag85 said:

@Jankarcop said:

PC has the top 10 (in a row) gfx kings of each and every gen.

Stop trolling/lying.

No, it doesn't.

And I think both you and the OP need to stop trolling/lying.

You both need to name them... For the lulz.

wait I am confused are we talking 'both generations' or are we taking this back to the 8bit era?

Truth is the last generation had better graphics for about a week.

This generation out of the gate they dont.