Why do so many people complain about third parties in ssbb?

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#1 REforever101
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i keep seeing people saying something along the lines of "NO MORE 3RD PARTIES!1!!!!11!"

but my questions is why?

yea, its a nintendo thing....but i think thats what holds the game back. ive wished since the first smash bros that every game character ever thought up could be in it

i wish the game could be multi-plat (even though i know that will never happen) so that even more non nintendo characters can be in it.

you cant tell me you wouldnt want to see mario face off with a stylized version of kratos, and then have mc pop out of nowhere and kick both of their asses....and then the nemesis appears and kills mc

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#2 Erkidu
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I definitely don't want to see Smash Bros. go multiplat - but I wouldn't mind more third-party characters participating.
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#3 Solid_Snake1221
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I'm glad they are including snake and sonic and possibly more. Nothing wrong with 3rd parties imo.
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#4 metroidfood
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As long as there aren't too many 3rd party characters... It's neat, but it ruins the whole Smash Bros experience when there are a whole lot of 3rd party characters. Plus, only a couple keep them special, I'd like to see one more character join the roster though.
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3 third party characters.
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#6 MrDziekuje
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I feel Nintendo can make Brawl's cast as 3rd-partied up as they want but multiplat is a no-no. Master Chief does not belong on Smash Bros and he never will.
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#7 REforever101
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As long as there aren't too many 3rd party characters... It's neat, but it ruins the whole Smash Bros experience when there are a whole lot of 3rd party characters. Plus, only a couple keep them special, I'd like to see one more character join the roster though.metroidfood

BUT WHY?

ive always wanted a game that throws together famous characters

like, an annual game in which all the new characters that came out the year before are in it

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Because they haven't added Yuna with the dual handguns yet.
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i think the two are enuff. not even all the 1st and secnd party are there yet. get the soldier frum bwii, capt olimar THEN we can talk 3rd party. i dnt want anymore bc its supposed to b all ninty, thats the whole premis of the game. im ok wth sonic and snake but i would like no mor 3rd party and mor 1st & 2nd
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[QUOTE="metroidfood"]As long as there aren't too many 3rd party characters... It's neat, but it ruins the whole Smash Bros experience when there are a whole lot of 3rd party characters. Plus, only a couple keep them special, I'd like to see one more character join the roster though.REforever101

BUT WHY?

ive always wanted a game that throws together famous characters

like, an annual game in which all the new characters that came out the year before are in it

This year having Master Chief,Big Daddies, Little Sisters, Kratos etc. would be amazing

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i think the two are enuff. not even all the 1st and secnd party are there yet. get the soldier frum bwii, capt olimar THEN we can talk 3rd party. i dnt want anymore bc its supposed to b all ninty, thats the whole premis of the game. im ok wth sonic and snake but i would like no mor 3rd party and mor 1st & 2ndMasterfubu

but why only nintendo characters? theres a lot of awesome characters that exist outside the realm of nintendo....

or they could at least add in resident evil characters/monsters as players. at least re has seen a lot of action on nintendo systems

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#12 Sonick54
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To the guys saying it would ruin the whole "ninty" premise

why not, you know, just not play or even select them? :|

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I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.
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Snake was fine since Metal Gear pretty much gained popularity on the NES, but adding more third party characters especially those who were at one point Nintendo's rival (sonic) will just dilute the game of its meaning: a game where nintendo characters kick the crap out of each other

I was litteraly angry when they announced Sonic, because as of right now, Sonic is the most disgraced video game character on the face of the planet. The only good thing about Sonic being in the game is that I can now kick his mediocre ass again and again.

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[QUOTE="Masterfubu"]i think the two are enuff. not even all the 1st and secnd party are there yet. get the soldier frum bwii, capt olimar THEN we can talk 3rd party. i dnt want anymore bc its supposed to b all ninty, thats the whole premis of the game. im ok wth sonic and snake but i would like no mor 3rd party and mor 1st & 2ndREforever101

but why only nintendo characters? theres a lot of awesome characters that exist outside the realm of nintendo....

or they could at least add in resident evil characters/monsters as players. at least re has seen a lot of action on nintendo systems

It's a Nintendo game, so only character who have appeared on Nintendo consoels and handheld should be in it.

I'm not saying there should not be a game like you're describing. I think everyone wants that. But it's not going to be Smash Bros.

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Snake was fine since Metal Gear pretty much gained popularity on the NES, but adding more third party characters especially those who were at one point Nintendo's rival (sonic) will just dilute the game of its meaning: a game where nintendo characters kick the crap out of each other

I was litteraly angry when they announced Sonic, because as of right now, Sonic is the most disgraced video game character on the face of the planet. The only good thing about Sonic being in the game is that I can now kick his mediocre ass again and again.

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Snake was fine since Metal Gear pretty much gained popularity on the NES, but adding more third party characters especially those who were at one point Nintendo's rival (sonic) will just dilute the game of its meaning: a game where nintendo characters kick the crap out of each other

I was litteraly angry when they announced Sonic, because as of right now, Sonic is the most disgraced video game character on the face of the planet. The only good thing about Sonic being in the game is that I can now kick his mediocre ass again and again.

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i was ok wth sonic bc he was on alot of nintendo after the dreamcast fell. but mostly bc of m&s ar olympics. that sealed the deal
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I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.PBSnipes

well sure, theres characters that will never fit in, but there are plenty that can

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I think Snake and Sonic are enough because it is made by Hal Laboratories which is a 2nd Party to Nintendo so only 1st and 2nd Parties should be in it I mean Nintendo has so many characters that they don't even have in there or they have them as Assist Trophies but they should be actual Characters but instead they are getting passed up for 3rd Party when Nintendo has enough characters to have more then 1000 fighters in Smash but they still have to limit it so when they get through the 1000 or more Nintendo Characters then they think about 3rd Party characters.
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.REforever101

well sure, theres characters that will never fit in, but there are plenty that can

But the others aren't anywhere near as famous. Sooner or later (and probably sooner) one of the newer characters like the MC will make it in, and if DoA 4 taught us anything its that the MC and fighting don't mix.
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Its their precious franchise :o
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[QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.PBSnipes

well sure, theres characters that will never fit in, but there are plenty that can

But the others aren't anywhere near as famous. Sooner or later (and probably sooner) one of the newer characters like the MC will make it in, and if DoA 4 taught us anything its that the MC and fighting don't mix.

i still dont know who some of the official characters of SSB are? Like that Ron guy.

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.Koalakommander

well sure, theres characters that will never fit in, but there are plenty that can

But the others aren't anywhere near as famous. Sooner or later (and probably sooner) one of the newer characters like the MC will make it in, and if DoA 4 taught us anything its that the MC and fighting don't mix.

i still dont know who some of the official characters of SSB are? Like that Ron guy.

That is Roy he is from Fire Emblem, and Marth is from the very first Fire Emblem which this year the first one is getting remade for the DS with Touch Screen controls.
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.Nintendo_Ownes7

well sure, theres characters that will never fit in, but there are plenty that can

But the others aren't anywhere near as famous. Sooner or later (and probably sooner) one of the newer characters like the MC will make it in, and if DoA 4 taught us anything its that the MC and fighting don't mix.

i still dont know who some of the official characters of SSB are? Like that Ron guy.

That is Roy he is from Fire Emblem, and Marth is from the very first Fire Emblem which this year the first one is getting remade for the DS with Touch Screen controls.

and where's ness from?

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.Koalakommander

well sure, theres characters that will never fit in, but there are plenty that can

But the others aren't anywhere near as famous. Sooner or later (and probably sooner) one of the newer characters like the MC will make it in, and if DoA 4 taught us anything its that the MC and fighting don't mix.

i still dont know who some of the official characters of SSB are? Like that Ron guy.

Roy? He is from Fire Emblem, an old series that had never seen America until after Melee's release.

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I think its because they're worried the Nintendo characters are going to be outclassed (or at the very least outnumbered) by less important/famous characters. I don't think anyone would object to having characters like Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot or other characters that fit within the realm of SSB's "cartoony" feel; but I wouldn't want characters like the Master Chief, Marcus Fenix or Nathan Drake to be included.Koalakommander

well sure, theres characters that will never fit in, but there are plenty that can

But the others aren't anywhere near as famous. Sooner or later (and probably sooner) one of the newer characters like the MC will make it in, and if DoA 4 taught us anything its that the MC and fighting don't mix.

i still dont know who some of the official characters of SSB are? Like that Ron guy.

i dont think there are any characters that are unique to ssb

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and where's ness from?

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the game needs one more 3rd party character. either someone from nintendos history or isaac from golden sun.
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the game needs one more 3rd party character. either someone from nintendos history or isaac from golden sun.damswedon
bwii soldier nd captain olimar. game&watch and Mewtwo Must come baq
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the game needs one more 3rd party character. either someone from nintendos history or isaac from golden sun.damswedon
Isaac could be in it because Camelot was 2nd Party to Nintendo for a long time they still might be 2nd Party even though they are working with Capcom on We Love Golf, also Golden Sun I think is Nintendo's IP because Camelot made it for Nintendo. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)
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#32 damswedon
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i would like one of the following.

Simon Belmont - castlevania

black mage - final fantasy

Isaac - golden sun

phoenix - ace attorney

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OMG Gordon Freeman to be in SSBB!
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#34 wiretoss
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I hateeehatehatehatehatehate third parties being introduced, personally.

It's called SUPER SMASH BROTHERS
Which came from Mario and Luigi which came from nintendo, etc. etc.

Seeing sonic with them for example makes me want to projectile vomit. :/

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#35 LoeJance
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i think the two are enuff. not even all the 1st and secnd party are there yet. get the soldier frum bwii, capt olimar THEN we can talk 3rd party. i dnt want anymore bc its supposed to b all ninty, thats the whole premis of the game. im ok wth sonic and snake but i would like no mor 3rd party and mor 1st & 2ndMasterfubu
Your opinion doesn't count considering you either couldn't, or chose not to spell 'enough' right. Although I do agree two or three third-party characters are enough. I disagree on Capatain Olimar though, I think he would be a terrible character for Smash Bros.
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#36 GunSmith1_basic
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I dont see the problem with third parties in smash bros, but I have a feeling I'll start having a problem with it once I start playing the game