Why do retailers love PC gamers so much?

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#1 Posted by Second_Hokage (1111 posts) -

PC gamers get the best deals, everywhere!

PC games are REALLY cheap on Amazon, GameStop, and Best Buy compared to their console versions. And they also do a lot of 50% and 75% off deals for PC only on the latest games. That is ridiculous! Makes you think, maybe it really is rewarding to spend $400-$600 on a gaming PC.

Anyways, why do console gamers get the short end of the stick in all the retailers?

Makes me rage when i see a game on PC for $30, while the PS3 version is still $60.

#2 Posted by lawlessx (46460 posts) -
#3 Posted by the_bi99man (11047 posts) -

Because we buy the most games, and have the most games to buy. Plus, literally everything for PC is available DD now, and publishers and retailers both love that.

#4 Posted by BPoole96 (22784 posts) -

PC gaming: High hardware cost, cheap games.

Console gaming: Low hardware cost, expensive games.

#5 Posted by FashionFreak (2291 posts) -
#6 Posted by the_bi99man (11047 posts) -

you mean deals like this?

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/tomb-raider/

:P

lawlessx

That's pretty sweet for a game that's been out for 3 weeks. But it was only $50 to begin with, rather than the standard $60. Not sure if that was only the PC version, though. Are all new console games still $60, even from the handful of publishers who launch at $50 for PC?

#7 Posted by ferret-gamer (17310 posts) -
1. PC games are cheaper to distribute because there is no console manufacturer that gets a cut of every copy sold 2. It is much easier to make large sales on digital platforms, and the publisher has control over the price instead of a random store 3. Sales on digital platforms are shown to massively increase copies sold. Cut a year or two old game's price 75% and get a 2000% increase in sales. Good way to get more income out of older stuff.
#9 Posted by 04dcarraher (19171 posts) -

Dont forget GoG, Steam and impulse and others :P

With pc prices normally being $10-$20 cheaper is because publishers/devs dont have to pay MS/Nintendo or Sony fees(their cuts).

Also with digital distribution they can sell games cheap because there is no production material and shipping costs All they have to worry about is keeping servers and the space up for use.

#10 Posted by krisroe_213 (869 posts) -
#11 Posted by ShoulderOfOrion (3435 posts) -
Because PC gamers are amazing!
#12 Posted by MonsieurX (29264 posts) -
#13 Posted by whiskeystrike (12068 posts) -

Consoles are closed, therefore you have to go through PSN/XBL/whatever crap Nintendo has.

PC being such an open platform allows it to stay competitive. There are dozens of websites you can buy keys from

#14 Posted by krisroe_213 (869 posts) -
#15 Posted by agpickle (3293 posts) -

Nope. I bought my copy and 10 other games from there and they all work fine.krisroe_213

I've had a key site give me a keygen key once. I try to avoid them now.

#16 Posted by iPage (96 posts) -

That's exactly why I don't understand console only player or console fanboys. Why waste $60 on a game withy worse graphics, controls and framerates when you can get the same game with better graphics, more freedom, better controls and depending on your hardware better framerates for only $50 to $30.

I actually have too many games on PC because they're just so damn cheap, most of my games in my Steam account have never been played because I just don't have time to play them all. I just can't resist when a game like Borderlands 2 only cost $50 to begin with and then gets 75% off on top of that.

#17 Posted by Masculus (2826 posts) -

It's a much more competitive market since everybody is trying to get more marketshare in DD.

#18 Posted by krisroe_213 (869 posts) -

[QUOTE="krisroe_213"]

Nope. I bought my copy and 10 other games from there and they all work fine.agpickle

I've had a key site give me a keygen key once. I try to avoid them now.

There are dodgy ones out there but I haven't had a problem with CD Key House. They have over 30,000 people on Facebook - they're legit
#19 Posted by lostrib (33474 posts) -

Those sales are on downloads so there is like no overhead cost for the retailer compared to a physical copy, and they don't have to worry about running out of stock (it does happen on rare occasions)

#20 Posted by Ly_the_Fairy (8652 posts) -

The cost to game on the PC has gotten so cheap that I've actually found myself less interested in console gaming because it's just too expensive in comparison. 

#21 Posted by Merex760 (4284 posts) -
#22 Posted by V3rciS (2207 posts) -

Because you don't have leechers aka Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo in the PC industry. Devs do not have to pay their a$ses off for stupid licenses etc. It's more free...

It's like comparing stupid iPHones to glorious Androids.

#23 Posted by Cranler (8379 posts) -

Because you don't have leechers aka Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo in the PC industry. Devs do not have to pay their a$ses off for stupid licenses etc. It's more free...

It's like comparing stupid iPHones to glorious Androids.

V3rciS

I wouldnt call them leechers since they are selling the hardware at a huge discount. Consoles would cost about twice as much if they were sold for profit like pc hardware is.

#24 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7307 posts) -

[QUOTE="krisroe_213"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

you mean deals like this?

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/tomb-raider/

:P

MonsieurX

 

There are cheaper places

Sounds fishy

Could be dem russian sites.

Gmg is pretty darn fricken good already, so I'll stick to them for my future purchase.

@TC, a typical conselite is a typical movie go-er, they always buy into w.e the industry feeds them. High demand, high prices. PC/hermits are like princes or connoisseur with their choices, so they have to drive a hard bargain to get them to buy. Plus many other factors as others may of stated.

#25 Posted by lostrib (33474 posts) -

Because you don't have leechers aka Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo in the PC industry. Devs do not have to pay their a$ses off for stupid licenses etc. It's more free...

It's like comparing stupid iPHones to glorious Androids.

V3rciS

Using the phone analogy, it's like bying a subsidised on contract phone, versus bringing your own unlocked phone and getting a cheaper monthly plan

#26 Posted by NFJSupreme (5131 posts) -

all the reasons have been stated.  At the end of the day its one of the perks of PC gaming.  But be careful though steam impulse buying can be addictive.  Sometimes I just randomely buy games because they are only 3 bucks. :p

#27 Posted by lazerface216 (7463 posts) -

Because we buy the most games

the_bi99man

lol i'm sure that's why...

#28 Posted by RyviusARC (4207 posts) -

all the reasons have been stated.  At the end of the day its one of the perks of PC gaming.  But be careful though steam impulse buying can be addictive.  Sometimes I just randomely buy games because they are only 3 bucks. :p

NFJSupreme

 

Purchased Titan Quest with the expansion on STEAM today because it was 5 bucks.......I am not even sure if I will play it.

#29 Posted by Cranler (8379 posts) -
[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

Because you don't have leechers aka Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo in the PC industry. Devs do not have to pay their a$ses off for stupid licenses etc. It's more free...

It's like comparing stupid iPHones to glorious Androids.

Using the phone analogy, it's like bying a subsidised on contract phone, versus bringing your own unlocked phone and getting a cheaper monthly plan

Not exactly since MS and Sony arent forcing you to buy new games or pay for Live or PSN +. The only other device I know of thats sold at a loss with no contract are printers but thats because the ink is overpriced and you cant buy used ink or borrow a friends ink.
#30 Posted by lazerface216 (7463 posts) -

PC gaming: High hardware cost, cheap games.

Console gaming: Low hardware cost, expensive games.

BPoole96

 

not true at all, you can gets tons of console games for dirt cheap nowadays. lol expensive games, where do you get this from?

#31 Posted by krisroe_213 (869 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

PC gaming: High hardware cost, cheap games.

Console gaming: Low hardware cost, expensive games.

lazerface216

 

not true at all, you can gets tons of console games for dirt cheap nowadays. lol expensive games, where do you get this from?

Like arcade games
#32 Posted by NFJSupreme (5131 posts) -

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

all the reasons have been stated.  At the end of the day its one of the perks of PC gaming.  But be careful though steam impulse buying can be addictive.  Sometimes I just randomely buy games because they are only 3 bucks. :p

RyviusARC

 

Purchased Titan Quest with the expansion on STEAM today because it was 5 bucks.......I am not even sure if I will play it.

 

just saw that hitman absolution is only 9.99 on steam.   damn they just got me again hahaha.

#33 Posted by MrYaotubo (2613 posts) -
There´s a reason why PC games software sales were of $20 billion in 2012,it´s growing exponentially.
#34 Posted by lazerface216 (7463 posts) -

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

PC gaming: High hardware cost, cheap games.

Console gaming: Low hardware cost, expensive games.

krisroe_213

 

not true at all, you can gets tons of console games for dirt cheap nowadays. lol expensive games, where do you get this from?

Like arcade games

huh?

#35 Posted by krisroe_213 (869 posts) -

[QUOTE="krisroe_213"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

 

not true at all, you can gets tons of console games for dirt cheap nowadays. lol expensive games, where do you get this from?

lazerface216

Like arcade games

huh?

You can get arcade games for cheap. That's about it
#36 Posted by BPoole96 (22784 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

PC gaming: High hardware cost, cheap games.

Console gaming: Low hardware cost, expensive games.

lazerface216

 

not true at all, you can gets tons of console games for dirt cheap nowadays. lol expensive games, where do you get this from?

Every game launching at $60, rarely do PSN/XBLA ever reach the low prices that Steam offers, crappy pre order bonuses (for example I preordered BioShock Infinite and got Bioshock 1, XCOM, and Civ 5 as well as $15 back), and it takes years for retail console games to reach prices that Steam/Amazon/GMG have within 4 months of release.
Some more examples I have gotten with PC games:

  • Tomb Raider day one for $18
  • DMC day one for $37
  • Fay Cry 3 in January for $12.50
  • Hitman Absolution in December for $20 (its $10 on Steam right now)
  • Crysis 3 day one for $40
  • Scribblenauts Unlimited in December for $7.50
  • Sleeping Dogs in October for $16

I would have to wait a very long time to get those prices on consoles, and chances are used copies would reach those prices long before new copies did (and buying used games is for plebs)

#37 Posted by megaspiderweb09 (3686 posts) -

Here is a question, do you think if they priced PC games at $60, you guyz would buy knowing fully well there is a torrent of said game out there somewhere. Seriously PC gamers should remove the **** in front of their foreheads. This is the publishers saying ''getting something is better than nothing'' for the most part

#38 Posted by RyviusARC (4207 posts) -

Here is a question, do you think if they priced PC games at $60, you guyz would buy knowing fully well there is a torrent of said game out there somewhere. Seriously PC gamers should remove the **** in front of their foreheads. This is the publishers saying ''getting something is better than nothing'' for the most part

megaspiderweb09

 

#39 Posted by lazerface216 (7463 posts) -

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="krisroe_213"] Like arcade gameskrisroe_213

huh?

You can get arcade games for cheap. That's about it

 

ummmmm no. do your research hun...

#40 Posted by MrYaotubo (2613 posts) -

Here is a question, do you think if they priced PC games at $60, you guyz would buy knowing fully well there is a torrent of said game out there somewhere. Seriously PC gamers should remove the **** in front of their foreheads. This is the publishers saying ''getting something is better than nothing'' for the most part

megaspiderweb09

Overall best selling exclusive game of 2012,Diablo 3,was sold and still is at $60,sold over 12 Million copies in a few months alone. Guild Wars 2,also another full priced game sold over 3 Million copies in a few months. Many other similar examples exist,both single and multiplayer oriented.

#41 Posted by lazerface216 (7463 posts) -

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

PC gaming: High hardware cost, cheap games.

Console gaming: Low hardware cost, expensive games.

BPoole96

 

not true at all, you can gets tons of console games for dirt cheap nowadays. lol expensive games, where do you get this from?

Every game launching at $60, rarely do PSN/XBLA ever reach the low prices that Steam offers, crappy pre order bonuses (for example I preordered BioShock Infinite and got Bioshock 1, XCOM, and Civ 5 as well as $15 back), and it takes years for retail console games to reach prices that Steam/Amazon/GMG have within 4 months of release.
Some more examples I have gotten with PC games:

  • Tomb Raider day one for $18
  • DMC day one for $37
  • Fay Cry 3 in January for $12.50
  • Hitman Absolution in December for $20 (its $10 on Steam right now)
  • Crysis 3 day one for $40
  • Scribblenauts Unlimited in December for $7.50
  • Sleeping Dogs in October for $16

I would have to wait a very long time to get those prices on consoles, and chances are used copies would reach those prices long before new copies did (and buying used games is for plebs)

those are great deals and all but that still doesn't deny the fact that there are tons of console games for dirt cheap. 

#42 Posted by krisroe_213 (869 posts) -

[QUOTE="krisroe_213"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

huh?

lazerface216

You can get arcade games for cheap. That's about it

 

ummmmm no. do your research hun...

I own an Xbox 360, and every time a new game comes out the PC version is always cheaper. I go on a Cd key site and it's another 40% cheaper. I would like to know where I can find these "dirt" cheap console games
#43 Posted by lazerface216 (7463 posts) -

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="krisroe_213"] You can get arcade games for cheap. That's about itkrisroe_213

 

ummmmm no. do your research hun...

I own an Xbox 360, and every time a new game comes out the PC version is always cheaper. I go on a Cd key site and it's another 40% cheaper. I would like to know where I can find these "dirt" cheap console games

so we are only referring to brand new games here? why? and of course the pc version is always cheaper, DD will always be cheaper than retail. difference is when i'm done beating that brand new game, i can go ahead and sell it and put that money towards another game of my choice...or trade it online. or hell, i can rent it for 5-6 bucks and beat it. isn't that what pc fanboys always talk about? options? well console gamers have that when it comes to software...so yeah, console games are absolutely not "expensive" when compared to pc games. they both have their perks.

#44 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

Because they are powered mainly by Windows.  The greatest OS on the face of the planet made by no other than MS. 

#45 Posted by BPoole96 (22784 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

 

not true at all, you can gets tons of console games for dirt cheap nowadays. lol expensive games, where do you get this from?

lazerface216

Every game launching at $60, rarely do PSN/XBLA ever reach the low prices that Steam offers, crappy pre order bonuses (for example I preordered BioShock Infinite and got Bioshock 1, XCOM, and Civ 5 as well as $15 back), and it takes years for retail console games to reach prices that Steam/Amazon/GMG have within 4 months of release.
Some more examples I have gotten with PC games:

  • Tomb Raider day one for $18
  • DMC day one for $37
  • Fay Cry 3 in January for $12.50
  • Hitman Absolution in December for $20 (its $10 on Steam right now)
  • Crysis 3 day one for $40
  • Scribblenauts Unlimited in December for $7.50
  • Sleeping Dogs in October for $16

I would have to wait a very long time to get those prices on consoles, and chances are used copies would reach those prices long before new copies did (and buying used games is for plebs)

those are great deals and all but that still doesn't deny the fact that there are tons of console games for dirt cheap. 

Where though? When I used to use my PS3 as y primary platform I used to consider getting a game for $40 two months after launch a good deal. I would mainly only buy from Amazon and GameStop. Where you you buy console games comparable to the examples I provided above in that same time frame?
#46 Posted by lazerface216 (7463 posts) -

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Every game launching at $60, rarely do PSN/XBLA ever reach the low prices that Steam offers, crappy pre order bonuses (for example I preordered BioShock Infinite and got Bioshock 1, XCOM, and Civ 5 as well as $15 back), and it takes years for retail console games to reach prices that Steam/Amazon/GMG have within 4 months of release.
Some more examples I have gotten with PC games:

  • Tomb Raider day one for $18
  • DMC day one for $37
  • Fay Cry 3 in January for $12.50
  • Hitman Absolution in December for $20 (its $10 on Steam right now)
  • Crysis 3 day one for $40
  • Scribblenauts Unlimited in December for $7.50
  • Sleeping Dogs in October for $16

I would have to wait a very long time to get those prices on consoles, and chances are used copies would reach those prices long before new copies did (and buying used games is for plebs)

BPoole96

those are great deals and all but that still doesn't deny the fact that there are tons of console games for dirt cheap. 

Where though? When I used to use my PS3 as y primary platform I used to consider getting a game for $40 two months after launch a good deal. I would mainly only buy from Amazon and GameStop. Where you you buy console games comparable to the examples I provided above in that same time frame?

why am i confined to your little time frame? you made a blanket statement that console games are expensive and you are wrong. sure you get great sales every now and then on steam, hell amazing sales but console games get great sales on amazon as well. fact is last time i checked steam max payne 3 is still 40 bucks on pc, borderlands 2 is 60, farcry 3 is 50...all these are cheaper on console on amazon right now...and i can go on.

#47 Posted by wis3boi (31026 posts) -

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Every game launching at $60, rarely do PSN/XBLA ever reach the low prices that Steam offers, crappy pre order bonuses (for example I preordered BioShock Infinite and got Bioshock 1, XCOM, and Civ 5 as well as $15 back), and it takes years for retail console games to reach prices that Steam/Amazon/GMG have within 4 months of release.
Some more examples I have gotten with PC games:

  • Tomb Raider day one for $18
  • DMC day one for $37
  • Fay Cry 3 in January for $12.50
  • Hitman Absolution in December for $20 (its $10 on Steam right now)
  • Crysis 3 day one for $40
  • Scribblenauts Unlimited in December for $7.50
  • Sleeping Dogs in October for $16

I would have to wait a very long time to get those prices on consoles, and chances are used copies would reach those prices long before new copies did (and buying used games is for plebs)

BPoole96

those are great deals and all but that still doesn't deny the fact that there are tons of console games for dirt cheap. 

Where though? When I used to use my PS3 as y primary platform I used to consider getting a game for $40 two months after launch a good deal. I would mainly only buy from Amazon and GameStop. Where you you buy console games comparable to the examples I provided above in that same time frame?

in candyland

#48 Posted by ArisShadows (22615 posts) -
#49 Posted by krisroe_213 (869 posts) -
#50 Posted by BPoole96 (22784 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]those are great deals and all but that still doesn't deny the fact that there are tons of console games for dirt cheap. 

lazerface216

Where though? When I used to use my PS3 as y primary platform I used to consider getting a game for $40 two months after launch a good deal. I would mainly only buy from Amazon and GameStop. Where you you buy console games comparable to the examples I provided above in that same time frame?

why am i confined to your little time frame? you made a blanket statement that console games are expensive and you are wrong. sure you get great sales every now and then on steam, hell amazing sales but console games get great sales on amazon as well. fact is last time i checked steam max payne 3 is still 40 bucks on pc, borderlands 2 is 60, farcry 3 is 50...all these are cheaper on console on amazon right now...and i can go on.

Because any one can just say "console gamers are dirt cheap, I bought Resistance Fall of Man from GameStop for $5!" That's not really a great deal considering the game is 6 years old. PC has great sales for current games all the time. Last week Borderlands 2 was $20 on GMG, and I bought the Season Pass for $12. A couple weeks Max Payne 3 was $12.50 on a weekend deal. Crysis 3 was $30 on Origin the other day, Far Cry 3 was on sale for around $30 on UPlay recently. Obviously the non sale prices aren't much better than consoles, but everyone is always having sales because GMG, Steam, Amazon, Origins, UPlay, Gamersgate, GoG, Impulse, GetGamesGo, etc are all in competition for your game sales and have to offer incentives to grab consumer's attention.