Why did Enslaved fail?

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#51 Edited by Heil68 (43244 posts) -

I had fun with it.

#52 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

Agreed 100%. Asseto Corsa good though. Not all steam early access poop.

99.99%

Yeah there are a few exceptions. But they are the exceptions and not the rule.

But Valve deserve no love. They only allow broken and unfinished products on steam because they know people want to play a game as soon as possible and they want their 1/3rd of the price.

It's not always good to give people what they want. Heck, I would love to play No Man's Sky already, but I know it's just a broken and unfinished product now. So that is why it's not on sale...

Valve even changed their policy saying an early access game might never be finished or feature complete EVER. Disgusting.

#53 Posted by uninspiredcup (7638 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

Agreed 100%. Asseto Corsa good though. Not all steam early access poop.

99.99%

Yeah there are a few exceptions. But they are the exceptions and not the rule.

But Valve deserve no love. They only allow broken and unfinished products on steam because they know people want to play a game as soon as possible and they want their 1/3rd of the price.

It's not always good to give people what they want. Heck, I would love to play No Man's Sky already, but I know it's just a broken and unfinished product now. So that is why it's not on sale...

Valve even changed their policy saying an early access game might never be finished or feature complete EVER. Disgusting.

My friend, Valve are wonderful people whom everyone should love. The concept of early access is very good. The execution i.e. the third party are the bad peoples. Valve putting up a message was a kind deed to help people. Because Valve sadly cannot trust people who are not Valve.

#54 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

My friend, Valve are wonderful people whom everyone should love. The concept of early access is very good. The execution i.e. the third party are the bad peoples. Valve putting up a message was a kind deed to help people. Because Valve sadly cannot trust people who are not Valve.

Nope. Valve wants their 1/3rd, yet they will take zero responsibility if you are left with an unplayable, broken or unfinished game.

They put profit above all else. They aren't kind-hearted. They are a business, they have no heart.

#55 Edited by uninspiredcup (7638 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, Valve are wonderful people whom everyone should love. The concept of early access is very good. The execution i.e. the third party are the bad peoples. Valve putting up a message was a kind deed to help people. Because Valve sadly cannot trust people who are not Valve.

They put profit above all else. They aren't kind-hearted.

But they are. Taking responsibility would put them at risk. Valve have faith in people. You should have faith in them.

If not for them, pc would be dead or worse, EA.

#56 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

But they are. Taking responsibility would put them at risk.

Valve have faith in people. You should have faith in them/

What's kind hearted of them ? Giving away the top three wishlisted games to 30 people each day ?

Oh, hohohoho, don't make me laugh.

Meanwhile, people are spending lots of money on tokens and trading cards so their team wins. Making Valve way more money than they lose each day giving away 90 games...

Valve pretends it's a game. It's just a stupid way to get people into competiton and spend money.

You remember Valve hiring an economist recently ? Yeah, this is the result.

Pure business, no heart.

#57 Posted by pyro1245 (442 posts) -

never heard of it. maybe that's why.

#58 Posted by uninspiredcup (7638 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But they are. Taking responsibility would put them at risk.

Valve have faith in people. You should have faith in them/

What's kind hearted of them ?

They saved gaming. Promote pc gaming. Give free games. Support mac, linux and other platforms nobody cares or should care about. Big picture mod. In-home streaming. Helping mod teams now become fully fledged developers. Helping modders and map makers make money. contumaciously support a product with constant updates for almost a decade. Free HD updates to halflife 2.

My chumling, that was simply 10 and a half seconds of thinking. It's pretty endless really.

You (as in you) can say "oh oh ohhhh ohhhhhheweeeee but they want to make money".

Yes, of course. The difference is they do it primarily through bettering the consumer experience as well as simultaneously helping other want-to-be and fully blown developers. Very few (if any) regardless of PR buzz talk, actually do this. None, as monumentally good willed as the mighty Valve, who we should all admire.

#59 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (5650 posts) -

Yeah I really enjoyed it... I guess there were other games out at the time that took all the attention.

#60 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

They saved gaming.

How ?

Saved it from what ?

@uninspiredcup said:

Promote pc gaming.

Give concrete examples of games that came to PC because of this

@uninspiredcup said:

Give free games.

So does EA. I guess EA should be well respected too now

Sony gave free games too

@uninspiredcup said:

Support mac, linux and other platforms nobody cares or should care about.

So do lots of developers

@uninspiredcup said:

Big picture mod. In-home streaming.

Yeah, those are nice. Nothing ground breaking

@uninspiredcup said:

Helping mod teams now become fully fledged developers.

Yeah, like the DOD-team. I'm sure they are having fun working on Team Fortress hats !

@uninspiredcup said:

contumaciously support a product with constant updates for almost a decade. Free HD updates to halflife 2.

I'll give you that. They did improve steam a lot over the decade.

But you think they did that because they love you ? Not because of all the money it makes them ?

What are HD updates ?

@uninspiredcup said:

My chumling, that was simply 10 and a half seconds of thinking.

I know, I'm asking for some more this time

#61 Posted by uninspiredcup (7638 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

They saved gaming.

How ?

Saved it from what ?

@uninspiredcup said:

Promote pc gaming.

Give concrete examples of games that came to PC because of this

@uninspiredcup said:

Give free games.

So does EA. I guess EA should be well respected too now

Sony gave free games too

@uninspiredcup said:

Support mac, linux and other platforms nobody cares or should care about.

So do lots of developers

@uninspiredcup said:

Big picture mod. In-home streaming.

Yeah, those are nice. Nothing ground breaking

@uninspiredcup said:

Helping mod teams now become fully fledged developers.

Yeah, like the DOD-team. I'm sure they are having fun working on Team Fortress hats !

@uninspiredcup said:

contumaciously support a product with constant updates for almost a decade. Free HD updates to halflife 2.

I'll give you that. They did improve steam a lot over the decade.

But you think they did that because they love you ? Not because of all the money it makes them ?

What are HD updates ?

@uninspiredcup said:

My chumling, that was simply 10 and a half seconds of thinking.

I know, I'm asking for some more this time

My freind you where given facts and resort to giving bias opinions back. Waste of time.

History has proved me right.

#62 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

They saved gaming.

How ?

Saved it from what ?

@uninspiredcup said:

Promote pc gaming.

Give concrete examples of games that came to PC because of this

@uninspiredcup said:

Give free games.

So does EA. I guess EA should be well respected too now

Sony gave free games too

@uninspiredcup said:

Support mac, linux and other platforms nobody cares or should care about.

So do lots of developers

@uninspiredcup said:

Big picture mod. In-home streaming.

Yeah, those are nice. Nothing ground breaking

@uninspiredcup said:

Helping mod teams now become fully fledged developers.

Yeah, like the DOD-team. I'm sure they are having fun working on Team Fortress hats !

@uninspiredcup said:

contumaciously support a product with constant updates for almost a decade. Free HD updates to halflife 2.

I'll give you that. They did improve steam a lot over the decade.

But you think they did that because they love you ? Not because of all the money it makes them ?

What are HD updates ?

@uninspiredcup said:

My chumling, that was simply 10 and a half seconds of thinking.

I know, I'm asking for some more this time

My freind you where given facts and resort to giving bias opinions back. Waste of time.

History has proved me right.

Everyone can read what you and I just wrote.

You were vague, I asked you to give more details and you can't. I think that's pretty clear.

#63 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38208 posts) -

My freind you where given facts and resort to giving bias opinions back. Waste of time.

History has proved me right.

Read: "I've got nothin"

#64 Edited by uninspiredcup (7638 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

They saved gaming.

How ?

Saved it from what ?

@uninspiredcup said:

Promote pc gaming.

Give concrete examples of games that came to PC because of this

@uninspiredcup said:

Give free games.

So does EA. I guess EA should be well respected too now

Sony gave free games too

@uninspiredcup said:

Support mac, linux and other platforms nobody cares or should care about.

So do lots of developers

@uninspiredcup said:

Big picture mod. In-home streaming.

Yeah, those are nice. Nothing ground breaking

@uninspiredcup said:

Helping mod teams now become fully fledged developers.

Yeah, like the DOD-team. I'm sure they are having fun working on Team Fortress hats !

@uninspiredcup said:

contumaciously support a product with constant updates for almost a decade. Free HD updates to halflife 2.

I'll give you that. They did improve steam a lot over the decade.

But you think they did that because they love you ? Not because of all the money it makes them ?

What are HD updates ?

@uninspiredcup said:

My chumling, that was simply 10 and a half seconds of thinking.

I know, I'm asking for some more this time

My freind you where given facts and resort to giving bias opinions back. Waste of time.

History has proved me right.

Everyone can read what you and I just wrote.

You were vague, I asked you to give more details and you can't. I think that's pretty clear.

But I gave facts. Replying with "how"? To a fact is a trick politicians use.

@seanmcloughlin said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My freind you where given facts and resort to giving bias opinions back. Waste of time.

History has proved me right.

Read: "I've got nothin"

My friend, i'v always respected you and found t he Irish character to be the best from Bravehart. But I feel with this hand holding comment, you have done yourself a great disservice.

#65 Edited by GunSmith1_basic (9744 posts) -

@Bigboi500 said:

It succeeded brilliantly in my book of fun.

apart from the combat, everything was superb. Dunno why this unispired idiot is calling it a 'failure'.

It's not a stretch to call it a failure since it fell below sales expectations and so the planned sequel was cancelled. That screams failure to me.

#66 Posted by Newhopes (4471 posts) -

I really enjoyed the game, had a great OST.

#67 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

But I gave facts. Replying with "how"? To a fact is a trick politicians use.

You didn't give any facts if you can't even explain them in more detail. Or any detail, for that matter.

Stop beating around the bush with excuses like these. It makes you look like a fool.

#68 Edited by uninspiredcup (7638 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But I gave facts. Replying with "how"? To a fact is a trick politicians use.

You didn't give any facts if you can't even explain them in more detail. Or any detail, for that matter.

Stop beating around the bush with excuses like these. It makes you look like a fool.

When giving facts, no if and or buts exist. A facts a fact. You asked, they given.

You no like, throw rattle. Agenda pushing doesn't change facts, that's propaganda. Valve too well liked by millions for minority propaganda to work effectively.

#69 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

Still beating around the bush

Could you put more than 2 seconds of thought in your next post ?

#70 Posted by uninspiredcup (7638 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

Still beating around the bush

Could you put more than 2 seconds of thought in your next post ?

Easily.

#71 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16252 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

Still beating around the bush

Could you put more than 2 seconds of thought in your next post ?

Easily.

Hahahahaha, funniest thing I read all day.

Thanks for the laughs bro

Good night

#72 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6857 posts) -

@amazonangry said:

Because it wasn't Heavenly Sword 2.

Heavenly Sword was garbage.

Eh. It was incredibly disappointing, but I still enjoyed it. I'm very easy to please in the hack 'n slash genre, though. I haven't played NG3 yet, but something tells me I would probably still score it a 6 or 7.

#73 Posted by GhoX (4676 posts) -

It failed due to poor marketing. There's been decades of evidence indicating that the quality of a game is not the decisive factor for commercial success.

#74 Edited by fend_oblivion (6113 posts) -

The gameplay needs more work. The story however was pretty damned good. The lighter moments could have been done a little better though.

But what deserves the most credit is the DLC - Pigsy's Perfect 10. Simple story but it put me on the verge of tears.

#75 Posted by StormyJoe (4752 posts) -

This was an actual good console title (a real one not getting praised simply because of hype). But it failed miserably and will be snuffed out of history forever. Pc indie games that aren't even out of early access sold more.

Why? Sadness.

3 reasons:

1) the game was stupid. The world is overrun by sentient machines, and some guy with a whacking stick can defeat them.

2) The girl was the most annoying character ever. Seriously, when that boss takes off with her (and she keeps screeching "moooonkeeee!"), I wanted nothing more for the robot to pop her head like a zit. Why would I try to save her? Oh, that's right - I had no choice.

3) the end was dumb.

#76 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (756 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: replace valve with Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo, and it's easy to realize that herms are as bad if not worse than console fanboys. Truth.

#77 Posted by finalfantasy94 (26243 posts) -

I thought it was fun.Im guessing something more hyped up came out around the same time.Though I still find it funny the devs went multiplat to make more money but heavenly sword made more sales and that was an exclusive.

#78 Edited by clone01 (24391 posts) -

This was an actual good console title (a real one not getting praised simply because of hype). But it failed miserably and will be snuffed out of history forever. Pc indie games that aren't even out of early access sold more.

Why? Sadness.

I dunno. I'm guessing because of your shitty threads.

#79 Edited by jg4xchamp (47063 posts) -

It had piss poor combat, bland level design, and an atrocious plot that turns Journey to the west into the fucking matrix.

Game sucks.

#80 Posted by Mystery_Writer (7883 posts) -

I enjoyed it. Didn't finish it though (need to look for my save file that I backed up before formatting my PC)

#81 Edited by m_machine024 (14852 posts) -

I enjoyed it but combat can be tedious and the ending was fucking weird leaving a bad taste. Also framerate didn't feel smooth.... felt like it ran at 20 fps but maybe that was only the PS3 version?

Really liked the visuals, characters and setting.

#82 Posted by magicalclick (22381 posts) -

Some games are better off exclusive. Once it goes multiplat, the hype is gone because everyone will realize the game is overhyped to begin with.

#83 Posted by BPoole96 (22784 posts) -

I thought it sucked. Boring combat, boring platforming, and simplistic puzzles made it not very enjoyable to play. Apparently the game had a good narrative, but I only made it like 4 hours in before I threw in the towel and went on to play something more interesting.

#84 Posted by hehe101 (574 posts) -

because it's crap

#85 Edited by foxhound_fox (87368 posts) -

I just bought it on Steam, so I will be able to tell you if it's something wrong with it mechanically.

#86 Edited by Pffrbt (6471 posts) -

Probably because it had a somewhat unique presentation and not a ton of marketing. It also had borderline non-existent gameplay and a story that shits itself at the end.

#87 Posted by foxhound_fox (87368 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup said:

Agreed 100%. Asseto Corsa good though. Not all steam early access poop.

99.99%

Yeah there are a few exceptions. But they are the exceptions and not the rule.

But Valve deserve no love. They only allow broken and unfinished products on steam because they know people want to play a game as soon as possible and they want their 1/3rd of the price.

It's not always good to give people what they want. Heck, I would love to play No Man's Sky already, but I know it's just a broken and unfinished product now. So that is why it's not on sale...

Valve even changed their policy saying an early access game might never be finished or feature complete EVER. Disgusting.

Anyone who buys an Alpha project expecting a finished project is a dumbass. Just saying.

They were never referred to as anything besides alpha or "early access".

#88 Posted by Jebus213 (8717 posts) -

Jeez, I spend too much time on forums...

#89 Posted by donalbane (16178 posts) -

I loved the characters and setting of their previous game Heavenly Sword, but I didn't like the story, protagonists, the gameplay or the setting of Enslaved. I wanted something more complex.