Who is graphics king?

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Posted by uninspiredcup (8672 posts) 3 months, 6 days ago

Poll: Who is graphics king? (176 votes)

Star Citizen 48%
Uncharted 4? 16%
The Order? 10%
Killzone: Shadow Fall 3%
It's still Crysis 3 22%

My friends, a while back I asked the grand qeastion, the ultimate qeastion about gaming, as we don't actually give a shit about gameplay in system wars, at all.

It seems some resistance occurred, people saying "oh ah but the PS4 has The Order and Uncharted 4"

I ask you now my beloved ones, let us settle this score once and or and for and.

What is the current graphics king?

#251 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4805 posts) -
@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

I originally thought that pc's and consoles in general were system types and that specific configurations were systems.

Robo and others stated that even outside this forum, individual pc's aren't systems and that the pc in general is one system just like the xbox 360 is one system. So I'm just trying to go with the flow of the forum.

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

#252 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (1202 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have no idea what that is suppose to mean.

I'm the one?

Cool....I don't mind fighting back the bullshit that goes on here.

I'M NEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know very well what it means you dodgy bugger. So how does Star Citizen not belong to the PC?.

Oh and Neo's way too cool for you, so i found someone who's just as dodgy but better suits the amount of shite you talk...

B/c it's asinine to claim that it's PC's and to showcase as "OMG LOOK WHAT PC CAN DO....CONSOLES SUCK1!!1"!.....when very little ppl are going to be able to play that game on the settings being shown around these forums.

And if you do have a PC or are getting a PC for to play the game at those settings....it'll cost you AT LEAST $1000.

And considering you fucked up and gave me Neo...you're more like the Pres. Bush...dumbass.

@lostrib said:

@mr_huggles_dog: well if you have a fat face it's not too much of a stretch to assume you're out of shape

Sorry I didn't reply soon....I had to go life.

I see you're still butting into conversations to fill the void of no one actually wanting to talk to you.

But in any case...ok fine...you wanna act like you can tell what I look like with that little of a me showing in a pic....then you go right ahead and try and get me back for talking honest about your precious PC.

Don't be mad lostrib....it makes you sexy.

#253 Posted by RoboCopISJesus (1408 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

That gave away he's just trolling.

#254 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

I originally thought that pc's and consoles in general were system types and that specific configurations were systems.

Robo and others stated that even outside this forum, individual pc's aren't systems and that the pc in general is one system just like the xbox 360 is one system. So I'm just trying to go with the flow of the forum.

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

I originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you disagreed. Now you're saying the pc is a system type.

#255 Posted by Krelian-co (10972 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

I originally thought that pc's and consoles in general were system types and that specific configurations were systems.

Robo and others stated that even outside this forum, individual pc's aren't systems and that the pc in general is one system just like the xbox 360 is one system. So I'm just trying to go with the flow of the forum.

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

I originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you disagreed. Now you're saying the pc is a system type.

how many threads will you make the mods close? this is not up for debate, pc 1 system, same as xbone, ps4, ps3 and 360. #dealwithit, you don't like it feel free to gtfo this forum, no one cares what you think so stop spamming the same nonsense.

#256 Posted by lostrib (37031 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib said:

@mr_huggles_dog: well if you have a fat face it's not too much of a stretch to assume you're out of shape

Sorry I didn't reply soon....I had to go life.

I see you're still butting into conversations to fill the void of no one actually wanting to talk to you.

But in any case...ok fine...you wanna act like you can tell what I look like with that little of a me showing in a pic....then you go right ahead and try and get me back for talking honest about your precious PC.

Don't be mad lostrib....it makes you sexy.

I never said anything about your physique, i was just pointing out that one could make a fair assumption of someone's physique based on their face.

Although I keep forgetting, are you the guy or the girl?

#257 Edited by Snugenz (11888 posts) -

@Cranler said:
@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

I originally thought that pc's and consoles in general were system types and that specific configurations were systems.

Robo and others stated that even outside this forum, individual pc's aren't systems and that the pc in general is one system just like the xbox 360 is one system. So I'm just trying to go with the flow of the forum.

#258 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

I originally thought that pc's and consoles in general were system types and that specific configurations were systems.

Robo and others stated that even outside this forum, individual pc's aren't systems and that the pc in general is one system just like the xbox 360 is one system. So I'm just trying to go with the flow of the forum.

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

I originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you disagreed. Now you're saying the pc is a system type.

how many threads will you make the mods close? this is not up for debate, pc 1 system, same as xbone, ps4, ps3 and 360. #dealwithit, you don't like it feel free to gtfo this forum, no one cares what you think so stop spamming the same nonsense.

Someone else brought it up not me. Stop making me the scapegoat.

I've seen the light and no longer see the pc as a system type but a system

I used to think

pc-Dell Inspiron 8600

console-xbox 360

Now is see it properly

pc-pc

console-xbox 360

#259 Edited by Snugenz (11888 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Snugenz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have no idea what that is suppose to mean.

I'm the one?

Cool....I don't mind fighting back the bullshit that goes on here.

I'M NEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know very well what it means you dodgy bugger. So how does Star Citizen not belong to the PC?.

Oh and Neo's way too cool for you, so i found someone who's just as dodgy but better suits the amount of shite you talk...

B/c it's asinine to claim that it's PC's and to showcase as "OMG LOOK WHAT PC CAN DO....CONSOLES SUCK1!!1"!.....when very little ppl are going to be able to play that game on the settings being shown around these forums.

And if you do have a PC or are getting a PC for to play the game at those settings....it'll cost you AT LEAST $1000.

And considering you fucked up and gave me Neo...you're more like the Pres. Bush...dumbass.

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

#260 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Snugenz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

I have no idea what that is suppose to mean.

I'm the one?

Cool....I don't mind fighting back the bullshit that goes on here.

I'M NEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know very well what it means you dodgy bugger. So how does Star Citizen not belong to the PC?.

Oh and Neo's way too cool for you, so i found someone who's just as dodgy but better suits the amount of shite you talk...

B/c it's asinine to claim that it's PC's and to showcase as "OMG LOOK WHAT PC CAN DO....CONSOLES SUCK1!!1"!.....when very little ppl are going to be able to play that game on the settings being shown around these forums.

And if you do have a PC or are getting a PC for to play the game at those settings....it'll cost you AT LEAST $1000.

And considering you fucked up and gave me Neo...you're more like the Pres. Bush...dumbass.

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives run on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not run on all gaming pc's.

#261 Posted by Snugenz (11888 posts) -

@Cranler said:

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives play on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not play on all gaming pc's.

And that means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things, Star Citizen = PC exclusive, FACT.

#262 Posted by lostrib (37031 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

B/c it's asinine to claim that it's PC's and to showcase as "OMG LOOK WHAT PC CAN DO....CONSOLES SUCK1!!1"!.....when very little ppl are going to be able to play that game on the settings being shown around these forums.

And if you do have a PC or are getting a PC for to play the game at those settings....it'll cost you AT LEAST $1000.

And considering you fucked up and gave me Neo...you're more like the Pres. Bush...dumbass.

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives run on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not run on all gaming pc's.

Good thing PC is one system.

#263 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@Cranler said:

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives play on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not play on all gaming pc's.

And that means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things, Star Citizen = PC exclusive, FACT.

Any PS 4 owner can play Bloodborne when it's released. Can any gaming pc owner play Star Citizen?

#264 Posted by RoboCopISJesus (1408 posts) -

Cranler kills another thread.

And PC is still gfx king.

#265 Posted by Snugenz (11888 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

@Cranler said:

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives play on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not play on all gaming pc's.

And that means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things, Star Citizen = PC exclusive, FACT.

Any PS 4 owner can play Bloodborne when it's released. Can any gaming pc owner play Star Citizen?

Doesn't matter it's an exclusive.

#266 Posted by Heirren (17094 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@Cranler said:

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives play on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not play on all gaming pc's.

And that means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things, Star Citizen = PC exclusive, FACT.

I got a pc it don't meet the requirements I thought pc was a game system with the biggest library of games. PC is like IOS in the sense that your shit gets phased out real quick.

#267 Posted by Snugenz (11888 posts) -

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

@Cranler said:

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives play on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not play on all gaming pc's.

And that means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things, Star Citizen = PC exclusive, FACT.

I got a pc it don't meet the requirements I thought pc was a game system with the biggest library of games. PC is like IOS in the sense that your shit gets phased out real quick.

Still an exclusive.

#268 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@RoboCopISJesus said:

Cranler kills another thread.

And PC is still gfx king.

You ruined it with your "consoles are behind" remark.

#269 Posted by intotheminx (691 posts) -

LOL. What in the hell am I reading.

#270 Posted by Heirren (17094 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

@Cranler said:

What a dumbass excuse for a dumbass statement. It's a PC exclusive, it "belongs" to PC, end of discussion, you dumbass.

He's pointing out that PS 4 exclusives play on all PS 4's. Star Citizen does not play on all gaming pc's.

And that means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things, Star Citizen = PC exclusive, FACT.

I got a pc it don't meet the requirements I thought pc was a game system with the biggest library of games. PC is like IOS in the sense that your shit gets phased out real quick.

Still an exclusive.

Like everything pc, exclusive with an asterisk.

#271 Posted by Snugenz (11888 posts) -

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

Still an exclusive.

Like everything pc, exclusive with an asterisk.

Nope, just plain old exclusive.

#272 Posted by Heirren (17094 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

Still an exclusive.

Like everything pc, exclusive with an asterisk.

Nope, just plain old exclusive.

Not according to the people claiming the pc format is the same ol system just like a console. It is one or the other.

#273 Posted by Krelian-co (10972 posts) -

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

Still an exclusive.

Like everything pc, exclusive with an asterisk.

Nope, just plain old exclusive.

Not according to the people claiming the pc format is the same ol system just like a console. It is one or the other.

Plain old exclusive, period. Go wipe your tears.

#274 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4805 posts) -
@Cranler said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

I originally thought that pc's and consoles in general were system types and that specific configurations were systems.

Robo and others stated that even outside this forum, individual pc's aren't systems and that the pc in general is one system just like the xbox 360 is one system. So I'm just trying to go with the flow of the forum.

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

I originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you disagreed. Now you're saying the pc is a system type.

that is a lie. you are saying i said something i never said. in fact here is a post YOU QUOTED, where i agree that console is a system type.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-pc-is-the-superior-gaming-platform-definitive--31486587/?page=25#js-message-342692250

i find this absolutely unacceptable. you should be embarrassed.

#275 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -
@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@Snugenz said:

Just noticed Cranlers sig...

You cannot be that stupid...

I originally thought that pc's and consoles in general were system types and that specific configurations were systems.

Robo and others stated that even outside this forum, individual pc's aren't systems and that the pc in general is one system just like the xbox 360 is one system. So I'm just trying to go with the flow of the forum.

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

I originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you disagreed. Now you're saying the pc is a system type.

that is a lie. you are saying i said something i never said. in fact here is a post YOU QUOTED, where i agree that console is a system type.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-pc-is-the-superior-gaming-platform-definitive--31486587/?page=25#js-message-342692250

i find this absolutely unacceptable. you should be embarrassed.

Your words from that thread: so a dell inspiron xxx would be one specific configuration of the system "PC".

Your words from this thread: i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

In this thread you say the pc is a system type and in the other thread you say the pc is a system.

We really need to get back on topic though. You, snugenz and robo are derailing. This isn't a thread about my sig or about consoles being behind it's about graphics king.

#276 Posted by Heirren (17094 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

@Heirren said:

@Snugenz said:

Still an exclusive.

Like everything pc, exclusive with an asterisk.

Nope, just plain old exclusive.

Not according to the people claiming the pc format is the same ol system just like a console. It is one or the other.

Plain old exclusive, period. Go wipe your tears.

IF it meets the requirements. Nobody is crying here. Why do the majority of the pc gamers on this site get so uptight? It is as if any remark about a pc is somehow taken as a threat, or that the person making a remark does not like the format.

#277 Posted by lostrib (37031 posts) -

@Heirren said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Heirren said:

Not according to the people claiming the pc format is the same ol system just like a console. It is one or the other.

Plain old exclusive, period. Go wipe your tears.

IF it meets the requirements. Nobody is crying here. Why do the majority of the pc gamers on this site get so uptight? It is as if any remark about a pc is somehow taken as a threat, or that the person making a remark does not like the format.

So your question is why do PC fanboys act like all the other fanboys on SW?

#278 Posted by RoboCopISJesus (1408 posts) -

What do people get out of killing threads?

Just make your own. There is a new thread button.

#279 Posted by Snugenz (11888 posts) -

@Heirren: A game not meeting every PCs requirements does not change the fact that its exclusive to the platform. Or are you seriously saying that every PC must be able to play every PC game till the end of time otherwise the game isnt exclusive?.

"Herp i cant play SC on my 486 so its not exclusive derp".

#280 Posted by Heirren (17094 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@Heirren: A game not meeting every PCs requirements does not change the fact that its exclusive to the platform. Or are you seriously saying that every PC must be able to play every PC game till the end of time otherwise the game isnt exclusive?.

"Herp i cant play SC on my 486 so its not exclusive derp".

I originally said "with an asterisk". I've said that many times in the past. It is the truth. The whole discussion then really reminded me of the whole "pc is the same as console" thing that was going on the other day. Well, you just poked fun at every pc game being playable on every pc." And you are right. That is laughable, but also shows just how different the two formats are--they don't compete right now.

While I think PS4 is pretty lousy right now along with that whole side of the console arena, people say "console graphics king" this and that because it isn't simply about the visuals. There is an interest in the hardware(at least in the past) and the developers and what they can pull off. Console development(again, in the past) is more akin to giving someone a set of red, blue, and yellow paints, and this person then proceeds to produce 1000s of colors. PC development is just giving the developers those 1000 colors from the start.

#281 Edited by RoboCopISJesus (1408 posts) -

@Cranler said: This isn't a thread about my sig or about consoles being behind it's about graphics king.

And the gfx king is PC for most of the gen, for the last 4 gens.

@Cranler said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:

Cranler kills another thread.

And PC is still gfx king.

You ruined it with your "consoles are behind" remark.

PC is gfx king and as a result consoles are behind. Consoles are also behind in hardware. That 100% pertains to this threads subject.

Problem?

#282 Posted by blackace (20753 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

My PC beats your PS4. There you go.

My pc beats my ps4 too.

PS 4 beats most peoples pc's.

Sure but does it beat most peoples gaming PC's?

That's what I was going to say. PS4, XB1, XBox 360 and PS3 all beat most plain old office PC's that no one would ever play games on except Solitaire. Almost all current built gaming PC's beat PS4, XB1, 360, PS3, etc...

#283 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4805 posts) -

@Cranler said:
@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

I originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you disagreed. Now you're saying the pc is a system type.

that is a lie. you are saying i said something i never said. in fact here is a post YOU QUOTED, where i agree that console is a system type.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-pc-is-the-superior-gaming-platform-definitive--31486587/?page=25#js-message-342692250

i find this absolutely unacceptable. you should be embarrassed.

Your words from that thread: so a dell inspiron xxx would be one specific configuration of the system "PC".

Your words from this thread: i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

In this thread you say the pc is a system type and in the other thread you say the pc is a system.

We really need to get back on topic though. You, snugenz and robo are derailing. This isn't a thread about my sig or about consoles being behind it's about graphics king.

Don't try to dodge. You've lied about what I said and you're introduced absolutely no evidence which supports the big text.

there is no derailment by me. you're posting lies, so i'm responding by telling the truth. if you stop printing lies about me that are derailment, then I won't respond to them. plus, you won't look so disingenuous.

the really big text is still a lie. you haven't quoted me disagreeing - which was your claim. where did i ever disagree with the notion that consoles are not a system type?

OK. Answer that part in bold please. You will need to quote a post where you're saying consoles are a system type, and I quote you and vehemently disagree.

**

now onto your derailment re: system and 'system type', which of course is a derailment because it isn't about whether consoles are a system type or not - it is about use of language 'system' vs 'system type' in two different threads.

in one thread people were talking about systems, i say systems. in another thread where the conversation is about 'system types', i said system types. interchangeability of these terms given the context of discussion is inconsequential. in terms of the context of conversation, can you explain why an inconsistency with 'system' and 'system type' is important? after all you brought it up.

here is my argument why it's inconsequential. Well firstly, you're trying to evade acceptance that you lied about things I said. So it makes sense you would introduce a strawman like this.

secondly, for example dell inspiron xxx is a laptop, which is a pc, which is a system. would anything change if the last part read 'which is a pc, which is a system type'? in terms of the discussion here at SW, no, it doesn't change a thing.

#284 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4805 posts) -

yes and regarding other conversation i see in the thread.

a pc exclusive, you'll only be able to play it on pc, at the moment that's something like divinity original sin.

a console exclusive - something like red dead redemption.

i don't know why people are finding this difficult. this is really basic stuff.

#285 Edited by RoboCopISJesus (1408 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

a pc exclusive, you'll only be able to play it on pc, at the moment that's something like divinity original sin.

a console exclusive - something like red dead redemption.

a PS4 exclusive - something very rare

#286 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said: This isn't a thread about my sig or about consoles being behind it's about graphics king.

And the gfx king is PC for most of the gen, for the last 4 gens.

@Cranler said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:

Cranler kills another thread.

And PC is still gfx king.

You ruined it with your "consoles are behind" remark.

PC is gfx king and as a result consoles are behind. Consoles are also behind in hardware. That 100% pertains to this threads subject.

Problem?

No shit. If I wanted an ez debate I'd always side with pc.

When I responded specifically to your consoles are behind statement you said that I'm changing the subject.

@blackace said:

@Snugenz said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

My PC beats your PS4. There you go.

My pc beats my ps4 too.

PS 4 beats most peoples pc's.

Sure but does it beat most peoples gaming PC's?

That's what I was going to say. PS4, XB1, XBox 360 and PS3 all beat most plain old office PC's that no one would ever play games on except Solitaire. Almost all current built gaming PC's beat PS4, XB1, 360, PS3, etc...

Proof?

@CrownKingArthur said:

@Cranler said:
@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

i honestly don't see what the problem is. quite frankly i don't see why this isn't properly resolved.

individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'. the phrasing 'labor day systems', i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

"Labor Day Intel i5 Special" is a configuration of windows thick client, which is a PC.

I originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you disagreed. Now you're saying the pc is a system type.

that is a lie. you are saying i said something i never said. in fact here is a post YOU QUOTED, where i agree that console is a system type.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-pc-is-the-superior-gaming-platform-definitive--31486587/?page=25#js-message-342692250

i find this absolutely unacceptable. you should be embarrassed.

Your words from that thread: so a dell inspiron xxx would be one specific configuration of the system "PC".

Your words from this thread: i don't have any problem with them marketing those labor day systems as configurations of the system type 'PC'.

In this thread you say the pc is a system type and in the other thread you say the pc is a system.

We really need to get back on topic though. You, snugenz and robo are derailing. This isn't a thread about my sig or about consoles being behind it's about graphics king.

Don't try to dodge. You've lied about what I said and you're introduced absolutely no evidence which supports the big text.

there is no derailment by me. you're posting lies, so i'm responding by telling the truth. if you stop printing lies about me that are derailment, then I won't respond to them. plus, you won't look so disingenuous.

the really big text is still a lie. you haven't quoted me disagreeing - which was your claim. where did i ever disagree with the notion that consoles are not a system type?

OK. Answer that part in bold please. You will need to quote a post where you're saying consoles are a system type, and I quote you and vehemently disagree.

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now onto your derailment re: system and 'system type', which of course is a derailment because it isn't about whether consoles are a system type or not - it is about use of language 'system' vs 'system type' in two different threads.

in one thread people were talking about systems, i say systems. in another thread where the conversation is about 'system types', i said system types. interchangeability of these terms given the context of discussion is inconsequential. in terms of the context of conversation, can you explain why an inconsistency with 'system' and 'system type' is important? after all you brought it up.

here is my argument why it's inconsequential. Well firstly, you're trying to evade acceptance that you lied about things I said. So it makes sense you would introduce a strawman like this.

secondly, for example dell inspiron xxx is a laptop, which is a pc, which is a system. would anything change if the last part read 'which is a pc, which is a system type'? in terms of the discussion here at SW, no, it doesn't change a thing.

You said pc's aren't a system type originally, not consoles. We never discussed consoles in relation to this.

This discussion directly relates to the other thread.

The correct path would be dell inspiron xxx is a system which is a laptop, which is a pc which is a system type.

Your way is like hyundai sonata is a sedan, which is a car, which is a four door.

The designation should be further generalizing as you go yet you go in circles.

Correct order would be hyundai sonata is a sedan, which is a car, which is a motor vehicle.

#287 Posted by BldgIrsh (2594 posts) -

@Cranler: So... are PC's one system?

#288 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4805 posts) -

ok so just so everyone knows, this statement is not yet proven, and no direct evidence has been shown:

"I (Cranler) originally said that the pc is a system type just like consoles are system type and you (Me, CKA) disagreed. Now you're (CKA) saying the pc is a system type" - Cranler, 2014. OK, so done and dusted. He never proved that I disagreed about 'consoles are a system type'.

and also up there he claims to know how I think, yet the car analogy he claims represents my thinking is nowhere near - For many reasons! but partly because some cars are two door. Once again, he claims to know things on my behalf, yet he keeps getting it wrong.

'circles' Can he give a single example of where I go in circles with my 'is a' relationships? I've never done that either.

Also, his own car example isn't good enough. here's why: Correct order would be hyundai sonata is a sedan (Not strictly true, there are two door sonata's), which is a car, which is a motor vehicle. Technically, only the variant of sonata which is a sedan, is the sedan.

Also, "You said pc's aren't a system type originally, not consoles. We never discussed consoles in relation to this."

yet you quote me here in post 258 for example where i said "individual pc's are essentially configurations of the system type 'pc'." So once again he was wrong on the topic of things said by CrownKingArthur.

battling against cranler's imagination is getting rather tiresome.

#289 Posted by charizard1605 (57734 posts) -

We're off track again, aren't we?

#290 Posted by charizard1605 (57734 posts) -

Cranler, I have issued enough warnings to you, and you won't stop. Time to take some time off and to rethink how you go about this.