Who do you believe will be last place in sales next gen?

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#1 phonemug
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Of the big 3 of course.

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#2 mems_1224
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sony, they dont know how to advertise
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#3 Grawse
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I'm shocked you listed MS. On your other account you left them off the poll of who would have the worst E3.
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#4 lundy86_4
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Don't know, don't care. At the end of the day, it's the offerings that I get.

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#5 MonsieurX
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M$ will go casual all the way,so it won't happen. Nintendo is warranted to get good sales with wii u. So it comes down to Sony.
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#6 KBFloYd
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sony doesnt know how to appeal to casuals....i fear last place again for them.

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#8 phonemug
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I'm shocked you listed MS. On your other account you left them off the poll of who would have the worst E3.Grawse
Could quite possibly be because that's not my other account.

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#9 KillerCannonade
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[QUOTE="Grawse"]I'm shocked you listed MS. On your other account you left them off the poll of who would have the worst E3.phonemug

Could quite possibly be because that's not my other account.

Sony fans.
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#10 BibiMaghoo
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Nintendo.
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#11 clr84651
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I want it to go 1. PS4 2. Xbox 720 3. Nintendo Kiddie

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#12 StrongDeadlift
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ITT: people saying "dont know, dont care" are Sony fans who cant bring themselves to say "Sony" :lol:

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#13 lundy86_4
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ITT: people saying "dont know, dont care" are Sony fans who cant bring themselves to say "Sony" :lol:

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Nah.

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#14 loosingENDS
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Easilly Sony

Noone cares for PS and Sony games anymore

What was good about PS1-2, like FF etc is gone forever and there is no turning back

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#15 KillerCannonade
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Easilly Sony

Noone cares for PS and Sony games anymore

What was good about PS1-2, like FF etc is gone forever and there is no turning back

loosingENDS
They lost 78% of all third party execlusives this gen from the PS1 and Ps2 days.
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#16 Eponique
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Probably Sony. They think the Vita will actually be successful. That alone tells me what their strategy is for next-gen.

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#17 JohnF111
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Sony learned a hard truth, they aren't kings, they aren't invincible and hardcore niche titles aren't as profitable as they once were. I just hope that in Japan their HQ's aren't run by the same stubborn fools they had this gen. As long as I get games i'm willing to spend money on then I don't care, Wii U/PS4 appears to be the big combo next gen since MS has gone after sucking every dollar possible then dropping their fans like a stone but not before brainwashing them and making them think 2 good games a year is worth it.

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#18 arto1223
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This seems to have backfired for you. Microsoft is in the worst shap from the poll. Surprised you even listed MS in the poll.

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#19 vashkey
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Kinda a hard call to make when we've only just barely seen one of the next gen consoles. If I had to guess though I'd go with Nintendo. It looks like they're trying to directly compete with Microsoft and Sony now, they're anvantage this gen was making cheap affordable hardware while going for the casuals.
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#20 ShadowsDemon
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MS in my case.
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#21 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Easilly Sony

Noone cares for PS and Sony games anymore

What was good about PS1-2, like FF etc is gone forever and there is no turning back

lol. Yeah, FF13 sold almost 5 million copies on the PS3 alone because nobody cares about ut. :lol:
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#22 StrongDeadlift
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Sony learned a hard truth, they aren't kings, they aren't invincible and hardcore niche titles aren't as profitable as they once were.

JohnF111

no they havent. If their ACTIONS are anything to judge (not their words), then they havent learned ANY of that. They still believe they are god, they can do no wrong, and just like their fanboys, they are convinced everything that is happening to them is perfectly normal. Sony takes "make.believe" seriously.

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#23 Eponique
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Easilly Sony

Noone cares for PS and Sony games anymore

What was good about PS1-2, like FF etc is gone forever and there is no turning back

ShadowsDemon

lol. Yeah, FF13 sold almost 5 million copies on the PS3 alone because nobody cares about ut. :lol:

Final Fantasy 13-2 was a disaster, it only sold 400k in the US. The franchise has lost a lot of relevancy.

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#24 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Easilly Sony

Noone cares for PS and Sony games anymore

What was good about PS1-2, like FF etc is gone forever and there is no turning back

ShadowsDemon

lol. Yeah, FF13 sold almost 5 million copies on the PS3 alone because nobody cares about ut. :lol:

Because the majority of those people spent $600 on what was essentially a paperweight, under the guise that it was a PS3 exclusive. :lol:

Also, the exeption =/= the rule.

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#25 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Easilly Sony

Noone cares for PS and Sony games anymore

What was good about PS1-2, like FF etc is gone forever and there is no turning back

StrongDeadlift

lol. Yeah, FF13 sold almost 5 million copies on the PS3 alone because nobody cares about ut. :lol:

Because the majority of those people spent $600 on what was essentially a paperweight, under the guise that it was a PS3 exclusive. :lol:

Also, the exeption =/= the rule.

Jeez, for someone who says he just likes messing around with cows a lot, you sure take this stuff seriously.
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#26 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

Sony learned a hard truth, they aren't kings, they aren't invincible and hardcore niche titles aren't as profitable as they once were.

StrongDeadlift

no they havent. If their ACTIONS are anything to judge (not their words), then they havent learned ANY of that. They still believe they are god, they can do no wrong, and just like their fanboys, they are convinced everything that is happening to them is perfectly normal. Sony takes "make.believe" seriously.

What the hell are you talking about? Vita = Easier architecture, they invited developers to the design stages to make it easier on them, they had both casual and core games(or they're having them at least). The hardware was reasonably priced, and you think that they think they're still gods? The executives themselves even Kaz said they're in big trouble... They are, have been and will do wrong again, even the Vita(their best project this gen as far as consumers go) had issues like memory card prices and poor battery life.

If i take your advise and judge them on their actions, not their words then all I see is the truth, they let hundreds of employees go and sold some money pits, that tells me they are struggling, oh but wait that's exactly what they said so it must wrong because Sony said it!! :roll: Get your head out of your anus, you're delusional.

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#27 XanderZane
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Sony probably won't release the PS4 until 2014 or later. They are losing billions every quarter and I doubt they have the cash right now to launch a new console they will put them even further in the red. I think they will again release a year or two after everyone else. The Wii U is a crap shoot right now. If they can deliver the games with HD graphics this time around, they may have a shaky start. Microsoft will need to get a lot more 1st party exclusives this time around and a much improved Kinect with better response and more innovative games. Everything for them have to 2 or more levels higher for the new XBox to take off.
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#28 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Easilly Sony

Noone cares for PS and Sony games anymore

What was good about PS1-2, like FF etc is gone forever and there is no turning back

lol. Yeah, FF13 sold almost 5 million copies on the PS3 alone because nobody cares about ut. :lol:

Because the majority of those people spent $600 on what was essentially a paperweight, under the guise that it was a PS3 exclusive. :lol:

Also, the exeption =/= the rule.

Doesn't matter. It still sold the copies. :)
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#29 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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It'll mainly depend on who launches with the most expensive system. So that places it between Microsoft and Sony, as Nintendo always releases theirs at affordable prices for mass consumer accessibility.

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#30 clone01
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Of the big 3 of course.

phonemug
Why the f*ck would anyone care, aside from stockholders?
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#31 ispeakfact
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Hopefully Sony, since being in last place has yielded the best and most ips this gen.
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#32 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Hopefully Sony, since being in last place has yielded the best and most ips this gen.ispeakfact

I gotta say, I didn't expect you of all people to actually hope for Sony to be last :P

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#33 Raymundo_Manuel
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If they were to follow the exact same trends they're following RIGHT now I'd put Nintendo as the lowest seller.

The thing is that it's easy to see from history how dramatically the console landscape can change in just a year's time. This generation everyone beat Sony simply because Sony kept following what they were doing, and were caught completely off-guard when Nintendo and MS came out to offer wildly different, or flat out superior products that appealed to markets that Sony didn't even consider.

I have a sneaking suspsicion Nintendo has something up their sleeves for the next generation. They've kept quiet, but I have a feeling the Wii U IS going to have an awesome online system given that I have heard them praise Xbox Live in the past. Not only that, but they want to embrace the download side of things so maybe they understand the success of Steam and the app store would be great for their console.

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#34 ispeakfact
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Hopefully Sony, since being in last place has yielded the best and most ips this gen.AdobeArtist

I gotta say, I didn't expect you of all people to actually hope for Sony to be last :P

I don't own shares or am employed by Sony, so whatever "place" they financially fall under is of no concern to me. I can only come to decisions based on what has transpired. Thus, last place=most and best exclusives.
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#36 Shinobi120
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Sony probably won't release the PS4 until 2014 or later. They are losing billions every quarter and I doubt they have the cash right now to launch a new console that will put them even further in the red. I think they will again release a year or two after everyone else. The Wii U is a crap shoot right now. If they can deliver the games with HD graphics this time around, they may have a shaky start. Microsoft will need to get a lot more 1st party exclusives this time around and a much improved Kinect with better response and more innovative games. Everything for them have to 2 or more levels higher for the new XBox to take off. XanderZane

But the thing is, Sony knows that they can't even afford to wait until 2014 or later to launch the PS4. It's suicide to give your competitors a head start for more than a year. That's exactly what happened to Nintendo & Microsoft with Xbox 1 & Gamecube when both of those consoles launched a year & a half after PS2's launch, & why Nintendo had such a tougher time competing with Sega with the Genesis when they launched the SNES 2 years after the Genesis came out.

If that happens, then they might as well give up & close down their gaming division.

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#37 verbtex  Moderator
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There is always a lot of Microsoft hate. Poor guys.

If current rates continue, I might actually assume that Microsoft will fall because of the third console curse, if not, maybe Nintendo since the Wii's appeal seems to have tampered off.

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#38 princeofshapeir
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sure makes sense hedging bets when we don't even know what the 720/PS4 will entail.
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#39 roleplayer2004
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Sony only give a **** about money and they don't have any. I think Micrsoft will run away with Next Gen. Wii U will be solid but don't expect it to sell 100 million units. I'd say more around the SNES sales 40-50 Million.

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#40 FeedOnATreeFrog
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Given the state of SONY, or rather the rate at which they've lost market share, I'd they'd be last.

Microsoft has done wonders this gen with their brand.

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Like really...

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#42 rjdofu
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Probably Sony (for most of the gen), depends on how they price and launch the console. But I doubt it'll be much different from this gen.

Oh wait, it's Phonemug thread, so I'll choose MS :cool:

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#43 Master_Live
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I think Sony is in trouble.