When will the PS3 stop ruining my ports?

It really is beggining to annoy me.  If it is ported from the PS3 then it will be stuck within the limitations of that system and not designed to use the 360's full potential. If it is a multiplat then it has to be dragged down to the PS3's level.  Oh we will see better framerates, crisper textures and shorter load times on our versions but it still sucks to know the game could have been better if it wasn't for Sony.

People will now grasp at straws and talk about Oblivion.  They will forget about other multiplats, forget about the 360 graphical update, forget about the year of extra development time, forget about the lack of DLC and forget about the lack of an expac and then tell you it's showing off the power of their machine /rofl. 

So do we have to be dragged back for the whole generation just because Sony couldn't get its act together? 

What year of extra development time? Didn't the devs just get the finally development kits a month or two before the Japan and NA launches?Kekira

I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?-DreamTheater-

[QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?SuperKnightX

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

um the only system that holdin down games is the 360..ps3 is much more poweful system it has the cell and rsx..and the blue ray disk for space..xbox360 is unreliable piece of hardware and cheap...just look at oblivion the ps3 version is just bettter..lemmings should be really afraid when more upcomin mulitplatform games will score higher for the PS3.also for some reason the xbox360 games is always so dark!! elementz28

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?SuperKnightX

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

exactly there is many developers who said the ps3 is more powerful..i dont listen to lemming here that say their 360 is better and all this none sense..lol..

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?SuperKnightX

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

NG: Sigma might end up looking better than NG2 on x360.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?SuperKnightX

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

Also, why are all the great looking games on X360 using Unreal Engine 3.0??

Games that are not using it such as Halo3 and Forza don't look very impressive at all

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?SuperKnightX

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

they are fanboy..the 360 is more powerful only in their dreams..thats why its so cheap ..lol...and the lifespan  for their hardware is only a few months..

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?SuperKnightX

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

bye.

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

 Another boring post made about thigns you dont really understand or nor do I for that matter, its harder yes, but who said anything about it being very very difficult?

 Grand Theft Auto 4 will be tonned down? Highly doubt it, and even if it was slightly, GTA San Andreas was freaking amazing - long and had loads of features, even if they only slightly improve the whole scale of GTA 4 over San Andreas then I'd be personally satisfied.

   Blaming PS3 ... fer gods sake, if anything it would be limited by the "Average" PC system.

Why cows dont post all what carmack said?

So says John Carmack, the legendary programmer of the Doom and Quake series, in an intriguing interview with Buzzscope. Though Carmack expresses a "preference" for the Xbox 360's CPU design, he admits that the PS3 "will have a bit more peak power."

Sony fans shouldn't break out the champagne just yet, however, as Carmack notes that "it will be easier to exploit the available power on the 360."

So basically he said that the ps3 processor is a bit more powerfull than the xbox360 one, and we know that xbox360 GPU its a lot better than the RSX and the Cell processor's better than the x360 processor, and those talking about Lair and HS how long have those games been in development? More than a year son u can't say anything about that.

So we know that

Xenos>>>>>RSX
Cell>>>>>Xenon

nothing on x360 matches the overall graphical output from motorstorm on ps3.GermanShepard06

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?SuperKnightX

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

bye.

lol bashing eachothers consoles and games thats childish. my ps3 is betta cause it shinier oh no my 360 is better cause its smaller lol. thats stupid. dcm06

It really is beggining to annoy me.  If it is ported from the PS3 then it will be stuck within the limitations of that system and not designed to use the 360's full potential. If it is a multiplat then it has to be dragged down to the PS3's level.  Oh we will see better framerates, crisper textures and shorter load times on our versions but it still sucks to know the game could have been better if it wasn't for Sony.

People will now grasp at straws and talk about Oblivion.  They will forget about other multiplats, forget about the 360 graphical update, forget about the year of extra development time, forget about the lack of DLC and forget about the lack of an expac and then tell you it's showing off the power of their machine /rofl. 

So do we have to be dragged back for the whole generation just because Sony couldn't get its act together? 

Stonin

Why cows dont post all what carmack said?

So says John Carmack, the legendary programmer of the Doom and Quake series, in an intriguing interview with Buzzscope. Though Carmack expresses a "preference" for the Xbox 360's CPU design, he admits that the PS3 "will have a bit more peak power."

Sony fans shouldn't break out the champagne just yet, however, as Carmack notes that "it will be easier to exploit the available power on the 360."

So basically he said that the ps3 processor is a bit more powerfull than the xbox360 one, and we know that xbox360 GPU its a lot better than the RSX and the Cell processor's better than the x360 processor, and those talking about Lair and HS how long have those games been in development? More than a year son u can't say anything about that.

So we know that

Xenos>>>>>RSX
Cell>>>>>Xenon

venture00

Blu Ray, if anyone is holding back this gen it´s xbox, imagine if xbox had blu ray, games would be much better on both systems, but you probably don´t understand that do u.Eddie-Vedder

How would games be better on Blu-Ray instead of a DVD :|

 According to you, PC games are crap since they're on CDs on DVDs.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Blu Ray, if anyone is holding back this gen it´s xbox, imagine if xbox had blu ray, games would be much better on both systems, but you probably don´t understand that do u.thirstychainsaw

How would games be better on Blu-Ray instead of a DVD :|

According to you, PC games are crap since they're on CDs on DVDs.

I didn´t say games on dvd´s and on cd´s are crap, I said if they were made with blu ray they would most likely be better cause the dev would have much more room to play with, the game would have a really good chance of having more information, to me it really seems clear it would benefit all gamers. 

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Blu Ray, if anyone is holding back this gen it´s xbox, imagine if xbox had blu ray, games would be much better on both systems, but you probably don´t understand that do u.Eddie-Vedder

How would games be better on Blu-Ray instead of a DVD :|

According to you, PC games are crap since they're on CDs on DVDs.

I didn´t say games on dvd´s and on cd´s are crap, I said if they were made with blu ray they would most likely be better cause the dev would have much more room to play with, the game would have a really good chance of having more information, to me it really seems clear it would benefit all gamers.

Beacuse the developer would go out of their way to make a 50GB game?

Look at Motorstorm, it has what? 10 tracks? No offline multiplayer? Yeah I see how Blu-Ray really made that game better.

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty

I could show you 360 launch area games like gun, enchant arms etc and say that is proof of 360 graphics but i'm not an idiot...I know it takes devs time to get used to hardware.

Therefore, from what the experienced devs I listed said and from specs, PS3 is more powerful than X360

games like HS and lair show it already. draw distances of miles and very sweet graphics with lair at 1080p lol

bye.

Fission Mailed.

[QUOTE="Stonin"]

It really is beggining to annoy me.  If it is ported from the PS3 then it will be stuck within the limitations of that system and not designed to use the 360's full potential. If it is a multiplat then it has to be dragged down to the PS3's level.  Oh we will see better framerates, crisper textures and shorter load times on our versions but it still sucks to know the game could have been better if it wasn't for Sony.

People will now grasp at straws and talk about Oblivion.  They will forget about other multiplats, forget about the 360 graphical update, forget about the year of extra development time, forget about the lack of DLC and forget about the lack of an expac and then tell you it's showing off the power of their machine /rofl. 

So do we have to be dragged back for the whole generation just because Sony couldn't get its act together? 

kvnmitnick

/thread.

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="-DreamTheater-"]I totally agree. For example with GTAIV, they are going to have to make the game smaller for the Xbox 360 because Blu-Ray can't hold as much info as a DVD :?Stonin

Itagaki: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000051337/%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxI%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial_s%26sa%3DG

PlayStation 3 is a little more powerful, but as can be to it a console which leaves one year after another. They have both of qualities and the inherent defects. PlayStation 3 is "obstinate", but I am it also, therefore finally it is not awkward! (laughter) the true gross difference here, they is that the PS3 is Japanese, therefore the Japanese prefer the PS3 generally.

There ya go

No damage control please ty