Whelp, looks like console optimization is real

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#1 Posted by BattlefieldFan3 (341 posts) -

Tomb Raider Fraud Edition is 60 FPS on the PS4.

With TressFX 2.0 on, AMD 7850 runs the game at 30 FPS.

#3 Posted by BlessedChill (676 posts) -

Of course it was everyone knows this

#4 Posted by Heil68 (42663 posts) -

MS holding back the gen. *le sigh*

#5 Posted by I_can_haz (6468 posts) -

Damn, meanwhile Bonaire is struggling to hit 30fps. The thirst is real.

#6 Edited by lostrib (31634 posts) -

...and the rest of the settings?

#7 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (12809 posts) -

Damn, meanwhile Bonaire is struggling to hit 30fps. The thirst is real.

Def needs Viagra.

#8 Posted by darkangel115 (1403 posts) -

It's sad how cows need to lie about stuff to make them still believe the ps4 has this magical power difference over x1 and PC. In fact the PC version is 60fps at 1080p already from last years version and the x1 and ps4 will be 30fps http://news.softpedia.com/news/Tomb-Raider-Definitive-Edition-Runs-at-30fps-1080p-on-PS4-and-Xbox-One-418309.shtml

#9 Posted by HaloinventedFPS (4685 posts) -

PS4 has a 7970M with 8 ACE's, it's a above a 7850

7870 runs TR at 1080p/60fps on Very high with FXAA, it's not TresFX 2.0 btw

#10 Posted by lostrib (31634 posts) -

It's sad how cows need to lie about stuff to make them still believe the ps4 has this magical power difference over x1 and PC. In fact the PC version is 60fps at 1080p already from last years version and the x1 and ps4 will be 30fps http://news.softpedia.com/news/Tomb-Raider-Definitive-Edition-Runs-at-30fps-1080p-on-PS4-and-Xbox-One-418309.shtml

it's been confirmed that at least the ps4 version is 60fps/1080p and it does look like it has tressfx on

#11 Posted by darkangel115 (1403 posts) -

@lostrib:

No it has not. Square confirmed the resolution. Some guy streaming it made a comment it was 60fps but he is incorrect. How the the company making the game wrong, but a small time game reviewer making a comment mid game correct?

#12 Edited by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@lostrib:

No it has not. Square confirmed the resolution. Some guy streaming it made a comment it was 60fps but he is incorrect. How the the company making the game wrong, but a small time game reviewer making a comment mid game correct?

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13424-tomb-raider-definitive-edition-ps4-runs-60fps-1080p-resolution-new-gameplay.html

Scot Amos is the executive producer for tomb raider

#13 Edited by killatwill15 (845 posts) -

@lostrib:

No it has not. Square confirmed the resolution. Some guy streaming it made a comment it was 60fps but he is incorrect. How the the company making the game wrong, but a small time game reviewer making a comment mid game correct?

its hard to trust the credentials of the big wigs,

just look back on the cod ghost-gate scandal,

all those higher ups just spread disinformation and spins,

it was the ones who people said were speaking out of context,

or misquoting were correct

#14 Edited by Gue1 (9144 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

It's sad how cows need to lie about stuff to make them still believe the ps4 has this magical power difference over x1 and PC. In fact the PC version is 60fps at 1080p already from last years version and the x1 and ps4 will be 30fps http://news.softpedia.com/news/Tomb-Raider-Definitive-Edition-Runs-at-30fps-1080p-on-PS4-and-Xbox-One-418309.shtml

maybe you don't know this but the PS4 has faster CPU, better ram designed for graphics and a bigger GPU with 4 more CU's (=256 cores) than the Xbone. And these are cold hard benchmark facts.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-CPU-More-Powerful-Than-Xbox-One-CPU-According-Benchmark-Test-61203.html

#15 Posted by darkangel115 (1403 posts) -

@Gue1:

Maybe you don't know this but I make a living in IT and have been for 10+ years. Most of what u said is false. Ps4 has a better gpu, x1 has better everything else. And the x1 has a better apu overall which includes the gpu

#16 Edited by darkangel115 (1403 posts) -

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

#17 Posted by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

Jesus christ...here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767

Skip to about 50:30

#18 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

The 1.84 TF gaming machine beats that 1.76 TF GPU?

Unprecedented.

#19 Posted by StrongBlackVine (8403 posts) -

The 1.84 TF gaming machine beats that 1.76 TF GPU?

Unprecedented.

LOL the Xbox One is not 1.76 TF. Where did you get the info. More like 1.2 TF.

#20 Edited by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

@psymon100 said:

The 1.84 TF gaming machine beats that 1.76 TF GPU?

Unprecedented.

LOL the Xbox One is not 1.76 TF. Where did you get the info. More like 1.2 TF.

The OP says "With TressFX 2.0 on, AMD 7850 runs the game at 30 FPS".

Where in my post to I refer to the Xbox One?

I'm talking about a 1.76 TF GPU, is the Xbox One a GPU?

Anyway, it's really great to have you back.

#21 Edited by HaloinventedFPS (4685 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@darkangel115 said:

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

Jesus christ...here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767

Skip to about 50:30

Looks like 30, unless the stream is capped to 30

#22 Posted by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@psymon100 said:

The 1.84 TF gaming machine beats that 1.76 TF GPU?

Unprecedented.

LOL the Xbox One is not 1.76 TF. Where did you get the info. More like 1.2 TF.

I think he means the 7850

#23 Posted by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@darkangel115 said:

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

Jesus christ...here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767

Skip to about 50:30

Looks like 30, unless the stream is capped to 30

No idea, but the executive producer of Tomb Raider says its 60fps on PS4

#24 Posted by StrongBlackVine (8403 posts) -

@StrongBlackVine said:

@psymon100 said:

The 1.84 TF gaming machine beats that 1.76 TF GPU?

Unprecedented.

LOL the Xbox One is not 1.76 TF. Where did you get the info. More like 1.2 TF.

The OP says "With TressFX 2.0 on, AMD 7850 runs the game at 30 FPS".

Where in my post to I refer to the Xbox One?

I'm talking about a 1.76 TF GPU, is the Xbox One a GPU?

Anyway, it's really great to have you back.

Haha thanks. I never really left SW though.I take breaks because the consoles wars are fun, but it's not healthy to argue over this stuff all the time. Seems we have been be going non-stop since last February!

#25 Posted by StrongBlackVine (8403 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@darkangel115 said:

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

Jesus christ...here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767

Skip to about 50:30

Looks like 30, unless the stream is capped to 30

That is pretty weak damage control.

#26 Edited by jsmoke03 (12494 posts) -

@HaloinventedFPS said:

@lostrib said:

@darkangel115 said:

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

Jesus christ...here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767

Skip to about 50:30

Looks like 30, unless the stream is capped to 30

That is pretty weak damage control.

lol @lostrib you must be tired from babysitting.

lol pwned...

#27 Posted by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

Of course console optimization is real. You would have to be mental to think a dev cant squeeze more performance out of a fixed box when targeting a specific hardware configuration over that of a variable one.

#28 Posted by darkangel115 (1403 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@darkangel115 said:

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

Jesus christ...here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767

Skip to about 50:30

I seen it, always good to hear, but as OP states its 30FPS on PC and X1 which is incorrect. PC runs at 60fps and has since last year, and the X1 version is unknown as of now. Also i agree with the guy that, that doesn't look 60fps. even the guy playing couldn't tell. either twitch is dropping frames or it wasn't really 60, but they will have it at 60 on release so that's why he said 60.

#29 Edited by MK-Professor (3636 posts) -

It is not real, and multiplats are a prof of that.

#30 Posted by NFJSupreme (5020 posts) -

Settings matter...

#31 Posted by Puckhog04 (22587 posts) -

It is not real, and multiplats are a prof of that.

This.

#32 Posted by blackace (19745 posts) -

We'll wait for the release. All versions are probably 60fps. No one will know for sure until the game is actually released. I can't see anyone forking over $60 again for minor improvement and extra content. Waste of money.

#33 Posted by freedomfreak (38223 posts) -

Guess we don't need Robert Stack anymore.

#34 Edited by Krelian-co (10042 posts) -

@blackace said:

All versions are probably 60fps.

Dat denial xD

#35 Posted by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@darkangel115 said:

@lostrib

I followed the link, I never heard of gamerpur. They claim it comes forms a games radar live stream and provides a link to the video. I click the link and the video was removed and the URL is now bad. No offense but I'll wait for a reputable site to confirm the resolutions of games. It's sad how any inkling of an advantage for sony or ms even those that are rumored, get posted at facts so quick here in shadow wars

Jesus christ...here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767

Skip to about 50:30

I seen it, always good to hear, but as OP states its 30FPS on PC and X1 which is incorrect. PC runs at 60fps and has since last year, and the X1 version is unknown as of now. Also i agree with the guy that, that doesn't look 60fps. even the guy playing couldn't tell. either twitch is dropping frames or it wasn't really 60, but they will have it at 60 on release so that's why he said 60.

No he's claiming the 7850 can only run the game with Tress FX at 30fps, which is true assuming you're running everything else (except AA) at the highest setting as well.

#36 Edited by NFJSupreme (5020 posts) -

@lostrib: question is what settings is the ps4 running on. Can't compare until we know that.

#37 Edited by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@lostrib: question is what settings is the ps4 running on. Can't compare until we know that.

yeah, I know

#38 Posted by lundy86_4 (42658 posts) -

What are the equivalent settings? Like lostrib has pointed out, without those settings, any meaningful comparison is moot.

#39 Posted by lostrib (31634 posts) -

What are the equivalent settings? Like lostrib has pointed out, without those settings, any meaningful comparison is moot.

Also need to know if the TressFX is equivalent between both versions

#40 Posted by lundy86_4 (42658 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

What are the equivalent settings? Like lostrib has pointed out, without those settings, any meaningful comparison is moot.

Also need to know if the TressFX is equivalent between both versions

Yup. All-in-all, this thread is pretty asinine.

#41 Edited by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

What are the equivalent settings? Like lostrib has pointed out, without those settings, any meaningful comparison is moot.

Also need to know if the TressFX is equivalent between both versions

Yup. All-in-all, this thread is pretty asinine.

*checks the TC* well, that's actually better than expected

#42 Posted by Suppaman100 (3590 posts) -

@Gue1:

Maybe you don't know this but I make a living in IT and have been for 10+ years. Most of what u said is false. Ps4 has a better gpu, x1 has better everything else. And the x1 has a better apu overall which includes the gpu

LOL, so 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM is inferior to 8 GB of DDR3 RAM?

And the CPU is almost identical.

PS4 is much stronger. And lol'd at 10 years of IT experience.

#43 Posted by musicalmac (22663 posts) -

I'm struggling to understand what's going on in here.

#44 Posted by Gargus (2147 posts) -

@lostrib:

No it has not. Square confirmed the resolution. Some guy streaming it made a comment it was 60fps but he is incorrect. How the the company making the game wrong, but a small time game reviewer making a comment mid game correct?

Where is your links to the proof?

You just did exactly what you complained about. Youre just some random internet stranger making claims with no actual proof to back it up and expect people to believe you over some other random internet stranger doing the same thing.

#45 Edited by cfisher2833 (1506 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

What are the equivalent settings? Like lostrib has pointed out, without those settings, any meaningful comparison is moot.

Also need to know if the TressFX is equivalent between both versions

I heard it wasn't--that they significantly toned it down for consoles....which quite frankly is good. 60fps is far better than maxed out TressFX. It was a stupid feature with crap physics.

#46 Posted by lostrib (31634 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

What are the equivalent settings? Like lostrib has pointed out, without those settings, any meaningful comparison is moot.

Also need to know if the TressFX is equivalent between both versions

I heard it wasn't--that they significantly toned it down for consoles....which quite frankly is good. 60fps is far better than maxed out TressFX. It was a stupid feature with crap physics.

Yeah, i turned it off, it was not worth the performance hit for stupid hair. It had weird physics, and it would clip through everything, and it seemed like it had strange lighting at times

#47 Posted by cfisher2833 (1506 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@cfisher2833 said:

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

What are the equivalent settings? Like lostrib has pointed out, without those settings, any meaningful comparison is moot.

Also need to know if the TressFX is equivalent between both versions

I heard it wasn't--that they significantly toned it down for consoles....which quite frankly is good. 60fps is far better than maxed out TressFX. It was a stupid feature with crap physics.

Yeah, i turned it off, it was not worth the performance hit for stupid hair. It had weird physics, and it would clip through everything, and it seemed like it had strange lighting at times

Yeah, I am more impressed by Nvidia's fur tech, but TressFX might get good in the future once they solve all those issues.

#48 Posted by darkangel115 (1403 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

@Gue1:

Maybe you don't know this but I make a living in IT and have been for 10+ years. Most of what u said is false. Ps4 has a better gpu, x1 has better everything else. And the x1 has a better apu overall which includes the gpu

LOL, so 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM is inferior to 8 GB of DDR3 RAM?

And the CPU is almost identical.

PS4 is much stronger. And lol'd at 10 years of IT experience.

you probably laugh at it since its longer then you been alive. and thankfully it pays very well so i don't have to take sides like lems/cows/hermits and can enjoy all systems ;)

and yes depending on the operation. Neither ram is "overall better" then the other one, they just have different strengths and weaknesses and since your leaving out the eSRAM added in with the dd3r, it makes up for the 1 weakness it has while the major weakness the GDDR5 ram has, , isn't compensated for. They are also limited by the speed of the bus, where sony for some reason capped it to the CPU at 20GB/s plus the high latency basically means the CPU is badly gimped. in terms of computing power, most cell phones will smoke the PS4. Not to say the X1 CPU is much better because it isn't, but it is faster, has better ram for it, more bandwidth, and has to take on less work ;)

#49 Posted by darkangel115 (1403 posts) -

@Gargus

no it was confirmed by many sites prior to this video, but since there hasn't been any announcement or DF testing, I'll wait and see. My point wasn't even about the game to begin with, but just the ignorance of cows is astonishing. I mean the lems and hermits are idiots too, but the cows are way more stupid then they are.

#50 Posted by blackace (19745 posts) -

@Gargus

no it was confirmed by many sites prior to this video, but since there hasn't been any announcement or DF testing, I'll wait and see. My point wasn't even about the game to begin with, but just the ignorance of cows is astonishing. I mean the lems and hermits are idiots too, but the cows are way more stupid then they are.

Sony could tell cows that the Moon was made of Cheese and they would believe them 1000%. Try to convince everyone else on the planet they are wrong and idiots. lol!! Anything positive about Sony PS they believe 100%, even if it comes from Patcher. lmao!! Everything M$ XBox is bad. Whether it's a positive thing or not. Bunch of morons. Any gamer with some intelligence usually just ignore the Cows on SW.