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Poll What secured game will have the most impact TR2 or SFV (11 votes)

TR2 a reinvented franchise using many uncharted mechanics but with Laura as the lead. 82%
Street Fighter V arguably the most highly regarded fighting franchise, there is no substitute. 73%

There seems to be some debate on SW about which one of these games will have the most effect. So which game do you think will have the bigger impact between for Xbox one and PS4 (game sales and console sales wise)? If you were choosing between a PS4 and xb1 which game would have a bigger influence?

Ground up current gen, has no subsitute, will also available on PC, Street Fighter V

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Cross gen (had to put it out there lol) will also be on 360, in direct competition with UC4, Tomb Raider 2

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#2 LegatoSkyheart
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I'd say in the long run, Street Fighter V.

Tomb Raider was a huge Surprise and caught everyone off guard, but it's been confirmed that it's timed exclusive (but how long that time is we don't know).

Street Fighter V however has NO mention of Xbox anywhere. It's going to be on PS4 and Steam and both PS4 and Steam Users will play against each other, so If Xbox One was to be added in later they would have to incorporate the Xbox One into the Netcode so PS4, Xbox One, and Steam users will play against each other and I just don't see that happening.

Street Fighter is a HUGE loss to Xbox fans.

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#3 Cloud_imperium
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Tomb Raider. I love Street Fighter but I doubt that it'll be a system seller.

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#4 Sollet
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

I'd say in the long run, Street Fighter V.

Tomb Raider was a huge Surprise and caught everyone off guard, but it's been confirmed that it's timed exclusive (but how long that time is we don't know).

Street Fighter V however has NO mention of Xbox anywhere. It's going to be on PS4 and Steam and both PS4 and Steam Users will play against each other, so If Xbox One was to be added in later they would have to incorporate the Xbox One into the Netcode so PS4, Xbox One, and Steam users will play against each other and I just don't see that happening.

Street Fighter is a HUGE loss to Xbox fans.

This.

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Street Fighter. Been around longer and is more iconic.

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i'll still be able to play tomb raider eventually. sf5 not coming to xbox PERIOD

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#7 kinectthedots
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Tomb Raider. I love Street Fighter but I doubt that it'll be a system seller.

So you see TR being a system seller for XB1...with it being available on xB360? That's an..interesting perspective.

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#8  Edited By Sollet
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@kinectthedots said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Tomb Raider. I love Street Fighter but I doubt that it'll be a system seller.

So you see TR being a system seller for XB1...with it being available on xB360? That's an..interesting perspective.

Isn't also coming to PC?

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#9 freedomfreak
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No clue. Probably Street Fighter.

Still, Tomb Raider for me by miles and miles.

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Streeet Fighta!! :P

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#11 tacoma1972
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This is a no-brainer, street fighter. Tomb Raider is a timed exclusive but the ONE will never see SF5. Tomb Raider won't touch Uncharted in terms of graphics or gameplay.

The other issue is that I expect more exclusives to PS4 and less to the ONE over time as the install base widens.

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#12  Edited By SecretPolice
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Phffft, you can have it mang, Philly coming on strong !!!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-exec-vows-to-make-amends-for-street-fighter-5/1100-6424100/

Xbox Exec Vows to "Make Amends" for Street Fighter 5 PS4 Exclusivity

Phil Spencer says he wants to make it up to fans.

My favorite part....

"

Responding on Twitter to a fan who said they could forget about Street Fighter V not coming to Xbox One if Microsoft would deliver a new Banjo-Kazooie or Conker game, Spencer replied:

"Love the idea of game franchise bartering, I'll work on making amends for SF," he said."

Conker baby, bring it on. :D

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#13 speedfreak48t5p
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Tomb Raider is coming all 3 platforms. Street Fighter is not.

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#14  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@kinectthedots said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Tomb Raider. I love Street Fighter but I doubt that it'll be a system seller.

So you see TR being a system seller for XB1...with it being available on xB360? That's an..interesting perspective.

Good point . But not everyone was Xbox 360 owner last gen.

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#15  Edited By kinectthedots
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@SecretPolice said:

Phffft, you can have it mang, Philly coming on strong !!!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-exec-vows-to-make-amends-for-street-fighter-5/1100-6424100/

Xbox Exec Vows to "Make Amends" for Street Fighter 5 PS4 Exclusivity

Phil Spencer says he wants to make it up to fans.

My favorite part....

"

Responding on Twitter to a fan who said they could forget about Street Fighter V not coming to Xbox One if Microsoft would deliver a new Banjo-Kazooie or Conker game, Spencer replied:

"Love the idea of game franchise bartering, I'll work on making amends for SF," he said."

Conker baby, bring it on. :D

So, in other words, even MS admits that SFV was a devastating blow to the platform and promises to try to do something to make up for this Death blow level revelation? It's funny that even MS realizes how tremendous of a deal this was when xbox fanboys on here are trying to act as if Street Fighter is an easily dismisable franchise or something.

There was absolutely no damage control from Sony when MS first made the TR announcement. That right there tells you difference between the level of impact both games represent.

Phil Spencer feels they needs to, "make amends for SF" because SF is an irreplaceable franchise. Sony felt no need to "make amends" for the TR announcement because they have UC regardless. That is how it is.

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#16  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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TOMB RAIDER was exuisite and one of THE best games of that year. It was leaps and bounds better than uncharted 3 and that bow and arrow gameplay was exciting and spot on control wise. Can't wait for the sequel.

But SFV is the more popular of the two and will have the biggest impact.

But both games will eventually go multiplat. (Street Fighter V in future iterations. i.e. Super Street Fighter V.)

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#17  Edited By inb4uall
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Neither is a game I would buy a new system to play.

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#18 pelvist
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Tomb Raider.

It wont be long before something like Ultra Street Fighter 5 Hyper-Super-Turbo Charged Championship Edition Alpha 4 vs SMK 2nd Strike is out for all platforms.

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#19 SecretPolice
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@kinectthedots:

Nah, it just means MS has really deep pockets and can if they wish do something about it whereas Sony, eh, not so much. :P

I like the idea of making it up to X fans by dropping a new Conker or Banjo megaton. :D

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#20 FreedomFreeLife
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Tomb Raider is bigger than Uncharted... So its TR

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#21 kinectthedots
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@pelvist said:

Tomb Raider.

It wont be long before something like Ultra Street Fighter 5 Hyper-Super-Turbo Charged Championship Edition Alpha 4 vs SMK 2nd Strike is out for all platforms.

"all platforms"?

lol, no, unlike TR, SF5 is a true current gen title and won't ever be on PS3 or xbox360.

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#22 pelvist
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Dont be a pillock, you know what I meant...

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#23 GrenadeLauncher
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I don't know how anyone can be excited for ROTTR after that reboot.

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#24 delta3074
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Anybody who thinks Tomb raider isn't as iconic as SF need there heads testing, that being said SF will probably remain a Ps4 exclusive whereas i can see TR going to PC at least.

Microsoft is publishing TR so all you cows saying it will definitly come to Ps4 are seriously deluded in my opinion.

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#25 kinectthedots
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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Tomb Raider is bigger than Uncharted... So its TR

Tomb Raider 2013 on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360

Tomb Raider logs 1 million players

Latest Lara Croft game from Crystal Dynamics sees seven-figure player base in under 48 hours following launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/tomb-raider-logs-1-million-players/1100-6405044/

Unchated 3 only PS3

Boom: Uncharted 3 sells 3.8 million units on day one

http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-sells-3-8-million-units-on-day-one/

How humiliating it is to show this kind of ignorance being regular SW member but looking at where your loyalties are it's to be expected. Next argument.

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#26 KaijuSlayer666
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SFV by far. SF has the competitive scene backing it. And its the biggest game at events like evo. I see this being a big factor in this comparison.

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TR is a timed exclusive. Are people ignoring this fact or do they really not know this?

"According to Spencer, Rise of the Tomb Raider is not truly exclusive to the Xbox One, as the deal between Microsoft and Crystal Dynamics means the exclusivity deal has a "duration," but Spencer did not go into great detail as to what this "duration" thing even means."

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This will help M$ counter Uncharted but of course Uncharted will sell better.

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#28 Capitan_Kid
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Street Fighter is a far bigger deal than Tomb Raider

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#29 Heil68
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@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Tomb Raider is bigger than Uncharted... So its TR

Tomb Raider 2013 on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360

Tomb Raider logs 1 million players

Latest Lara Croft game from Crystal Dynamics sees seven-figure player base in under 48 hours following launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/tomb-raider-logs-1-million-players/1100-6405044/

Unchated 3 only PS3

Boom: Uncharted 3 sells 3.8 million units on day one

http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-sells-3-8-million-units-on-day-one/

How humiliating it is to show this kind of ignorance being regular SW member but looking at where your loyalties are it's to be expected. Next argument.

And that's the FACTS of life.

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@GoldenElementXL said:

TR is a timed exclusive. Are people ignoring this fact or do they really not know this?

"According to Spencer, Rise of the Tomb Raider is not truly exclusive to the Xbox One, as the deal between Microsoft and Crystal Dynamics means the exclusivity deal has a "duration," but Spencer did not go into great detail as to what this "duration" thing even means."

Source

This will help M$ counter Uncharted but of course Uncharted will sell better.

Shush, let them think Greenberg stating what they did last August is a significant change.

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#31  Edited By Sollet
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@delta3074 said:

Anybody who thinks Tomb raider isn't as iconic as SF need there heads testing, that being said SF will probably remain a Ps4 exclusive whereas i can see TR going to PC at least.

Microsoft is publishing TR so all you cows saying it will definitly come to Ps4 are seriously deluded in my opinion.

SFV isn't exclusive... It's on PS4 and PC. You know cross play and all that fancy stuff.

Also MS published Ninja Gaiden.

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#32 intotheminx
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@delta3074 said:

Anybody who thinks Tomb raider isn't as iconic as SF need there heads testing, that being said SF will probably remain a Ps4 exclusive whereas i can see TR going to PC at least.

Microsoft is publishing TR so all you cows saying it will definitly come to Ps4 are seriously deluded in my opinion.

SFV is coming to PC as well.

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#33  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@Cloud_imperium said:

@kinectthedots said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Tomb Raider. I love Street Fighter but I doubt that it'll be a system seller.

So you see TR being a system seller for XB1...with it being available on xB360? That's an..interesting perspective.

Good point . But not everyone was Xbox 360 owner last gen.

It will at least be on the PC dude.....no doubt about that.

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#34 lostrib
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I feel like there was already a thread on this

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#35  Edited By intotheminx
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Honestly, neither to the degree you all think. These aren't games that sell 10-15 million copies. We all know TR didn't sell amazingly, but neither did SFIV really. The vanilla version of SFIV sold 3.3 million copies and that's across multiple platforms. Each iteration after vanilla sold around 1 million. Settling on two platforms is really going to hurt sales of both games. Not many people are going to purchase a console to play either game. Luckily both are coming to PC, so I'm not worried.

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#36 clyde46
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TR being exclusive pisses me off. I don't give a shit about fighters.

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#37  Edited By dommeus
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fighting games are lame, and i'm pissed I won't be playing TR2, at least for a while.

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#38 clr84651
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Street Fighter V, because it's not timed like Tomb Raider and PS4 has Uncharted 4 in place.

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#39  Edited By clr84651
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@dommeus said:

fighting games are lame, and i'm pissed I won't be playing TR2, at least for a while.

Yes, but you will be playing it later. X1 players can't play SF V if they like fighters. We also have Uncharted 4.

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#40 dommeus
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@clr84651 said:

@dommeus said:

fighting games are lame, and i'm pissed I won't be playing TR2, at least for a while.

Yes, but you will be playing it later. X1 players can't play SF V if they like fighters. We also have Uncharted 4.

We, lol. It's bizarre how everyone on SW is assumed to be either a Sony or Microsoft fan...

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Tomb Raider is now being published by MS....Enjoy!

https://games.yahoo.com/news/rise-tomb-raider-published-microsoft-131200565.html

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/542057412988248064

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Tomb Raider will be an ok game and people will talk about it for a few months, while SFV will be relevant for most of the gen thanks to the FGC, so yeah, SFV no doubt.

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#43 KratosYOLOSwag
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Neither are really big sellers but SFV will probably have a bigger impact. The PS4 has a game in the same genre that comes out around the same time as TR and will most likely be the better game. The Xbone on the other hand has a far inferior fighter.

Uncharted 4 and SFV vs. TR and KI.

Not really the hardest of choices to make. TR will probably come to PS4 at some point too.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@kinectthedots said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Tomb Raider. I love Street Fighter but I doubt that it'll be a system seller.

So you see TR being a system seller for XB1...with it being available on xB360? That's an..interesting perspective.

Good point . But not everyone was Xbox 360 owner last gen.

It will at least be on the PC dude.....no doubt about that.

And that's where I'll be playing it.

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#45  Edited By OhSnapitz
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Honestly I don't see either of them making a "HUGE" impact..

SFV - With Tekken 7, Mortal Kombat X and DOA 5 releasing.. the fighting scene will be VERY crowded next year.

TR - This is a "better" pick up for the XBO as M$ doesn't have a TR like game in it's archives but with Halo 5 coming out there won't be a lot of chatter about TR late next year.

..besides they're BOTH going to the PC.

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#46  Edited By SolidTy
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The fighting game community is going to gravitate in huge waves towards the PS4.

Not to mention Guilty Gear and Ultra SF4 on the way as well.

In the longterm, SF is a bigger impact than TR, especially since Sony has Uncharted 4 to combat the cross gen TR.

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#47 leandrro
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if sony can convince its fanboys uncharted games (all of them) with sub standart visuals are graphics king, micorsoft can convince xbox fanboys TR is graphics king even running at 20fps 720pin a DDR3 machine

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#48 lostrib
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@Heil68 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Tomb Raider is bigger than Uncharted... So its TR

Tomb Raider 2013 on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360

Tomb Raider logs 1 million players

Latest Lara Croft game from Crystal Dynamics sees seven-figure player base in under 48 hours following launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/tomb-raider-logs-1-million-players/1100-6405044/

Unchated 3 only PS3

Boom: Uncharted 3 sells 3.8 million units on day one

http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-sells-3-8-million-units-on-day-one/

How humiliating it is to show this kind of ignorance being regular SW member but looking at where your loyalties are it's to be expected. Next argument.

And that's the FACTS of life.

Well, except that's 3.8 million units shipped on the first day, while the TR is the number of users who have played in 48 hours

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#49  Edited By kinectthedots
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@lostrib said:

@Heil68 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Tomb Raider is bigger than Uncharted... So its TR

Tomb Raider 2013 on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360

Tomb Raider logs 1 million players

Latest Lara Croft game from Crystal Dynamics sees seven-figure player base in under 48 hours following launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/tomb-raider-logs-1-million-players/1100-6405044/

Unchated 3 only PS3

Boom: Uncharted 3 sells 3.8 million units on day one

http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-sells-3-8-million-units-on-day-one/

How humiliating it is to show this kind of ignorance being regular SW member but looking at where your loyalties are it's to be expected. Next argument.

And that's the FACTS of life.

Well, except that's 3.8 million units shipped on the first day, while the TR is the number of users who have played in 48 hours

Doh

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#50  Edited By lostrib
Member since 2009 • 49999 Posts

@kinectthedots said:

@lostrib said:

@Heil68 said:

@kinectthedots said:

Tomb Raider 2013 on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360

Tomb Raider logs 1 million players

Latest Lara Croft game from Crystal Dynamics sees seven-figure player base in under 48 hours following launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/tomb-raider-logs-1-million-players/1100-6405044/

Unchated 3 only PS3

Boom: Uncharted 3 sells 3.8 million units on day one

http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-sells-3-8-million-units-on-day-one/

How humiliating it is to show this kind of ignorance being regular SW member but looking at where your loyalties are it's to be expected. Next argument.

And that's the FACTS of life.

Well, except that's 3.8 million units shipped on the first day, while the TR is the number of users who have played in 48 hours

Wrong clown.

"Sony’s confirmed this afternoon that Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception sold 3.8 million units in its first day alone."

Key word in that sentence is "sold" monkey brains. What don't you understand about the word "sold" troll? SMH

With all your desperate attempts to try to damage control, criticize or down play information poster submit that is Sony or playstation related one would at least expect you to come with something that wasn't completely pulled from you ass but really if it's not simply an empty worn out one-liner, nothing you ever say has any validity.

If you're going to be an asshole, at least try to be right

"It now appears these figures represent units sold-in (to retailers) rather than sold-through (to consumers)." (http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies)

"A SCEA representative reconfirmed to Game Informer these sales are shipped, not sold" (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/11/10/uncharted-3-ships-3-8m-copies.aspx)

"Sony confirmed to Gamasutra that the figure given is shipped, rather than sold." (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/38501/Uncharted_3_Sells_38M_Units_On_Launch_Day.php)

"Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception has shipped 3.8 million copies worldwide on the day of its release, according to a statement from Sony." (http://www.edge-online.com/news/uncharted-3-ships-38-million-day-one/)