What runs BF4 better, PS4/X1 or an HD 7870 GE?

The reason I ask this is because right now you can pick up a stock 7870 for $100 or a 7870 GE with custom cooler for $115. Both prices are after mail in rebate.

But I know the consoles are more optimized than PC so I ask the question, will it run games worse, as good or better than next gen consoles?

I suppose that'd depend on the rest of your rig.

I believe the 7870 GHZ edition is similar to a GTX770 and that's beyond console capabilities.

It's better to ask in the PC forums, because that's where we (try to) avoid trolling.

This.

You will need at least a intel quad core to really be ahead of a PS4, be that 2ng gen Sandy bridge upwards, but Nehalem/Boomfield are still very capable.

The GPU will run it a lot betetr than PS4, NOW. No hideous pop-up, and full 1080p/60 FPS at similar settings.

But once the mantle patch hits in December it'll blow the doors off the PS4.

Ps4 and the 7870 might be similar performance for bf4 till mantle comes out.

@MlauTheDaft: @clyde46:

Lol a 7870 Ghz edition is not even close to a GTX 770..

U have the 7870 confused with the 7970

I'm quite happy with my MSI GTX770 Gaming 4GB, but as far as I'm aware, it's in the same ballpark as the R9-280X, which is a rebadged 7870 GHZ.

The memory boost over the 680 is what gives the 770 it's edge, plus it does OC better than it's older brother.

The 7970 GHZ will win in raw performance OC vs OC due to bus width and architecture strength though.

We can agree that they're similar though, right?

No they really are not similar.

A 770 demolishes a 7870, if you mean 7970, then sure.

The 280x is a rebranded 7970 GHZ Edition.

...DOH!!!!

I'm an idiot.

I stand by every one of my words, provided 7870 is replaced with 7970 :(

You would be correct in that case then ;)

I suppose that's what Clyde meant as well, when he endorsed me ;)

the 7870 if the rest of your pc is good, i think it can manage 60 fps at 1080p medium settings.

@Krelian-co: Well that would put it behind the PS4 version which runs on High.

My PC is an i7 3770 @ 4.2 Ghz and I have 8 GB of DDR3 1600 RAM. My current video card is a Radeon HD 6950 which I know will not keep up with the next gen consoles.

A 7870 XT would ensure parity for the entire gen at console pace.

I'd say that a 7870 would serve you well, but I'd much rather have you get an R9-280X or a GTX770.

This is what i'm looking for. How do you know that GPU will outpeform the PS4 in battlefield 4? Do you have a link I can check out?

At 900p.

The PS4 experiences horrible pop-up - this is apparent from footage and mentioned in most reviews. The same rhing is not true on the PC at at least medium settings.

You cna look around and find benchmarks of the game - just amke sure they are benchmarks using the latets drivers and the latest verison of the game. There a lot fo benchies of when the game came out, and optimizaiton wasn't there yet.

As for Mantle - well that will allow the engine devs to bypass a lot of CPU overhead whihc means you'll be able to get better performance on poorer CPU's, and with a modern desktop CPU and GPU, performance should be improved over DX11 (we're not sur eby how much though yet).

Dude those are launch games WTF man,tell me that 3 years from now when people will barely remember what a 7870 is,the PS3 had a gimped 7800 with half the bandwidth half the ROP,half the memory,and Uncharted 3 would be impossible to make on the 7800 GTX ,hell even Crysis 3 runs on consoles,that game will not even work on a damn 7800GTX.

resolution and framerate alone makes it a lot better.

I don't know what ay of what you said has to do with the quesiton in the op. But I guess you gotta keep on trolling.

I'll bite though - a 7800 was not equivalent to a PS3 or a 360 - if you knew anything about hardware you'd know that. The PS3's cell CPU was tapped for shader intensive games, and the programmable, unified shaders on the 360. You'd have to look at a GTX 8000 series for comparable hardware, and yes, one of those cards CAN keep up with last gen consoles the difference in performance isn't higher than 20% and less than that in most cases (in some cases, an old card like that cna even beat the consoles - though you'd need a more modern CPU than one available at the time thanks to the overhead of ancient APi's like DX9).

Now skip to this generaiton. Unlike the unified shaders of last, there is NO change in GPU architecture over what the PC's offer. We have feature parity. It's just that PC GPU's can be a lot faster than the PS4's.

If you can get OC numbers like I do with mine, you'll like the 7870. I've got two and I recently seen them as low as $139.99 with a $20.00 MIR.

@Krelian-co:

Is already getting 60fps and I would take high at 900p over medium at 1080p any day.

Ay dios. A 2GB HD 7870 Ghz edition is roughly on par or will box with a Nvidia 580/660 TI. A 7870 will run BF4 on Ultra with FXAA and some AF at 1080p in the mid 40s. That is provided you have a good quad core and at least 4GB system ram.

If you're focusing solely on BF4 you'll want to get Windows 8 (8.1) since it seems to give a performance boost.

Side note, Mail in rebates suck

A 580 may struggle because of Vram, but it has the raw horsepower.

Source? my overclocked GTX 480 died on me not so long ago, and played BF4 Beta really well...

See video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsyPnpQxGrE

7870 GE is also now known as the R9-270 if that is a little more up to date.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Look at tier 6 cards which is the GTX 58O/660 Ti and 7870s.

7870s on sale for $150 is a lot of a GPU at that price, and xfiring for $300 will play with the bigger boys. Single card is good for maxing @1080p even with some AA/AF sprinkled in on just about any game.

You are going to be very disappointed if you plan to play next gen multiplats on a 7870. Theoretically it should be a match for the hardware in the PS4, (provided you have a decent CPU), but devs are not optimizing code for that specific card in the way they are for the consoles. Games like AC4 and CoD:Ghosts are running very badly on far more powerful cards.

I would go for at least a 7950 to make sure you have the headroom to cover for poorly optimized ports.

I dream of a time when console peasants stop throwing around optimisation crap without an understanding.

PC, and it controls better too.

Who cares really.. pS4 will have exclusive games that put what a 7870 Ghz edition outputs to shame

@JamDev: mantle is looking to have extensive development support. All frostbite games (ie every future ea game) cdproject red and star citizen devs are all in on mantle. So that 7870 is going to have a lot of value throughout this entire Gen.

7870 ghz is no where near a GTX 770,

There are beta benchmarks of battlefield 4 running on ultra at 1080p on a 7870 at 49 average fps. lemme see if i can find them.

EDIT: never mind it is actual retail game benchmarks, granted it's with a pretty beefy cpu

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-Battlefield_4-test-1920.jpg

I'm curious how X1 handles matchmaking for games over that of the PS4.

HD 7870 will play it better than the PS4 and it doesn't matter what CPU you have as long as its better than Athlon or a dual core Phenom II. The PS4 plays BF4 at 1600x900 on the equivalent of High setting preset and averages around.

You would have to find accurate benchmarks for the PS4 running it. I've only seen digitalshittary's frame rate test which doesn't even have an average and doesn't text the most demanding situations. Even then it seemed to drop frequently and is only running at 900p and is definitely not running the highest graphical details.

doesn't BF4 use a server browser?

GTX 770 is a much better card. Regardless, PS4 BF4 looks very close to PC on Ultra (I own both). I'd say it reaches High settings.

I know the R9 280X is much more future proof but then they are going for $300 right now and the 7870 GE is going for only $115 after a $30 mail in rebate. That makes it a significantly superior value.

I can probably ebay my 6950 for $100 so that means I will be spending like $15 to upgrade to the 7870 GE. However, I don't want to end up with a card that peforms worse than the next gen consoles because then in a year I would be upgrading again.

consoles optimization is a myth...

A HD7850 (quivelent to a PS4 GPU) play BF4 with similar graphics and performance like the PS4 verison of BF4.

Sounds like you think the 7870 is your most viable option.

As I said, you'll probably be pleased with it, but the two aforementioned cards are better "long term" investments, IMO.

I would say the 7870 would probably run BF4 about as well as a PS4 but at 1080p. Depending on the other parts of your rig and then your operating system you may see more inconsistent performance on the PC. If you have 8 gigs of ram and a fairly newer CPU you should be able to run 1080p on high settings at 60fps pretty much stable.