What price would help the xbox one narrow gap?

Posted by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) 2 months, 5 days ago

Poll: What price would help the xbox one narrow gap? (29 votes)

current 399.00 3%
399.00 with a Game like Forza 5 10%
350.00 10%
350.00 with a game 14%
300.00 or less 62%

Obviously the hardware of the Xbox one is not as powerful as the PS4 so it would make sense to me that it should be cheaper if its not as powerful . I'm not saying this as a Xbox One hater because I am happy with the Xbox one but Unless Xbox lowers the price the sales game wont move IMO. I don't think they will be making a change anytime soon but then again I didn't think they would get rid of the Kinect .

#1 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

Didn't they just lower the price? Any more price drops will only make them look more desperate than they are now and won't help them. Price isn't the problem as PS4's continued dominance on Amazon Best Sellers after the price drop continues to show. The problem is the Xbone itself. It's just an overall inferior experience to the PS4. Both systems share like 90% of their library and Xbone continues to run these multiplats badly compared to the PS4 and unlike Sony last gen, MS' first party studios are incredibly weak compared to the competition so they can't rely on 1st party to save them. It's a hopeless cause, all they can do is try and make as much profit this gen and wait for nextgen to make a comeback.

#2 Posted by Solid_Max13 (3527 posts) -

Xbox doesn't need another price drop, they just had one the problem is how MS decided to promote the Xbox it's completely lost and the message was all over the place and bad press and weak hardware aren't doing it any favours as well. Right now they have a good focus which is on the games and they can then it around but they got cocky And now learning a valuable lesson, brand loyalty means fuck all if your product and message are shit

#3 Posted by inb4uall (5336 posts) -

Not buying an xbone for more than $200.

#4 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (3813 posts) -

if they could include a free ps4 with every x1 then i think it might help them.

#6 Posted by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

Didn't they just lower the price? Any more price drops will only make them look more desperate than they are now and won't help them. Price isn't the problem as PS4's continued dominance on Amazon Best Sellers after the price drop continues to show. The problem is the Xbone itself. It's just an overall inferior experience to the PS4. Both systems share like 90% of their library and Xbone continues to run these multiplats badly compared to the PS4 and unlike Sony last gen, MS' first party studios are incredibly weak compared to the competition so they can't rely on 1st party to save them. It's a hopeless cause, all they can do is try and make as much profit this gen and wait for nextgen to make a comeback.

The price lower was cause of taking out the Kinect though. I don't really see it as a price drop. I got to say if they lowered the price more people would buy I can't see it not doing anything

#7 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (10284 posts) -

I'm not for Sale !

#8 Posted by blackace (20238 posts) -

@inb4uall said:

Not buying an xbone for more than $200.

That's what I keep saying about the Wii U. Already own XB1 and PS4. True Next Gen is just a remote controller away.

#9 Edited by Alcapello (763 posts) -

@blackace said:

@inb4uall said:

Not buying an xbone for more than $200.

That's what I keep saying about the Wii U. Already own XB1 and PS4. True Next Gen is just a remote controller away.

#10 Posted by inb4uall (5336 posts) -

@blackace said:

@inb4uall said:

Not buying an xbone for more than $200.

That's what I keep saying about the Wii U. Already own XB1 and PS4. True Next Gen is just a remote controller away.

I prefer Wii U. It has a focus on 1st party exclusives which I won't be able to get on PC. PC can easily beat PS4 or Xbone when it comes to multiplats.

#11 Posted by ActicEdge (24344 posts) -

$350 but the thing is it should have launched at $350 without Kinect. Right now, the PS4 is the system everyone wants and unless the X1 is $100 cheaper why wouldn't you just get the PS4 considering it's the better hardware?

#12 Posted by nutcrackr (12457 posts) -

Halo or Gears.

#13 Posted by freedomfreak (39062 posts) -

A product reveal that didn't piss off everyone.

#14 Posted by leandrro (801 posts) -

ps4 is worth 400 dollars of pc parts, x1 is worth 300, just be honest and people will pay what its really worth to pay

also nintendo, better start selling it for 150

#15 Posted by lostrib (34236 posts) -

350 with kinect and master chief collection

Actually any form of a halo bundle would probably help

#16 Posted by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

I thought both the ps4and Xbox one were worth more than 400 based on what it would cost to make a pc to the same specs . I remember GameSpot building a pc for 500 that could beat a Xbox one but now its 400 . I do agree it should be 350 or just start bundling the launch games for 400

#18 Posted by leandrro (801 posts) -

I thought both the ps4and Xbox one were worth more than 400 based on what it would cost to make a pc to the same specs . I remember GameSpot building a pc for 500 that could beat a Xbox one but now its 400 . I do agree it should be 350 or just start bundling the launch games for 400

you re mixing pc parts price with software prices

you dont count ps+ cost in the ps4 cost, you also dont discount the 2 or 3 free AAA games you get bundled with your 400 dollars pc from the total pc cost

#19 Edited by xhawk27 (7229 posts) -

I think $350 should be about the right price, since the PS4 is now only about 29% more powerful.

If you want other features than it has more value to you because the PS4 has none of those features.

#20 Posted by littlestreakier (2902 posts) -

Price drops won't help spark mass interest for the XB1. Once they start offering great games the system will sell itself. They cN drop the price more and it will be a temporary solution and will only make them look weak in the public eye.

#21 Posted by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

Price drops won't help spark mass interest for the XB1. Once they start offering great games the system will sell itself. They cN drop the price more and it will be a temporary solution and will only make them look weak in the public eye.

Idk I think money talks and right now its the same price for both and if you had to pick one it seems easy for most to just pick the more capable one for the price. Now if they could have a lower price point then maybe people will think yeah its not as powerful but at least its cheaper. I really feel like being cheaper is what helped out the Xbox 360 so much

#22 Posted by silversix_ (14042 posts) -

Its significantly less powerful than a PS4 so it should cost significantly less.

#23 Posted by Dire_Weasel (15966 posts) -

Free isn't an option? I thought Microsoft was supposed to have bottomless pockets.

#24 Posted by Daious (1109 posts) -

Less than 300 dollars but I would essentially buy it for the sake of buying it and not for the games. I want to be more enthused about current gen consoles but they haven't really put out any titles to get me to buy it.

#25 Posted by xhawk27 (7229 posts) -

Its significantly less powerful than a PS4 so it should cost significantly less.

The PS4 is only about 29% more powerful than the X1. Does not have HDMI input, Live TV, or Snap feature.

#26 Posted by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

Its significantly less powerful than a PS4 so it should cost significantly less.

I would call the Wii u significantly less powerful and even that console is 300 with a cheap game or two I think though. Based on that it sounds like x1 should be 399 with a game or 350 given that it does do some things the ps4 can't . If it wanted to really go for the top I think 300 would make it a hell of a buy

#27 Edited by lamprey263 (23088 posts) -

I say $350 with a game, after all they still have to make a profit. I say instead of packing a game into the box, they should instead have a download voucher or two for a number of games it can be redeemed for, whether it be BF4, Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, or Forza Horizon, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed IV. That would of course require third party cooperation for the promotion, then again these games have likely hit their wall for lifetime sales.

Anyhow, cheaper is going to sell better, that simple.

#28 Edited by littlestreakier (2902 posts) -

@TheRealBigRich: While I definitely agree with everything you said I still think a price drop is only a temporary solution, not a fix to the actual problem. Games and features should be the #1 focus of MS right now. I've bought consoles in the past due to finally having a game library that I liked. Also, MS biggest supporter right now should be their current XB1 consumer base and their word of mouth. I've asked all my friends that have one how they like it and they all said it wasn't worth it (strictly in my friend group, others may have had different responses).

With the 360 I think what helped them the most was the 1 year head start they had and the great games they had at launch. I got a 360 a few weeks after the launch with Fight Night Round 3, PGR 3 and NFS:MS (2005) as some of my first games, oh my God did I have a blast. Console was GREAT from launch. It was the first time HD gaming was available on a console and it really blew people away when they tried it including all of my friends (hence word of mouth again). I'm sure knowing how expensive the PS3 was going to be at launch helped some people get the 360 but I think the great launch games and head start helped it over the price the most.

Also, to everyone complaining about specs and price, PS2 specs were garbage compared to the original Xbox...still didn't stop the PS2 domination. Why? Because PS2 had games that people wanted to play. PS2 also had that head start which helped with the install base.

#29 Edited by david61983 (154 posts) -

It needs to be $100 cheaper than the PS4 at all times. It's really that simple. The PS4 is more powerful with very likely better exclusives going forward as the PS4 is selling much better.

It's not like the Wii U where some people might buy it along with the PS4 or Xbone. In regards to the PS4 and Xbone very, very few people will buy both systems. There's really no point in owning both, and the PS4 has several advantages over the Xbone including PS+ which gives you free monthly games along with being a more powerful system. The only way people will buy the Xbone over a PS4 is if it's at least a $100 cheaper.

Also, the PS4 has regularly being going for $359 shipped brand new on eBay recently from Buy.com. In other words MS has a long way to go before they're going to be competitive on price.

#30 Posted by Boddicker (2488 posts) -

$300 with Kinect

MS can afford to take a hit like that and it will probably be enough to push them into a significant lead.

Will it happen? Probably not for years.

#31 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (15909 posts) -

Performance gap? None.

#32 Posted by brimmul777 (1122 posts) -

I'd say $399.00 with a top notch Xbox exclusive download or $399.00 with a year of Xbox LIVE free.

#33 Edited by PS4hasNOgames (1343 posts) -

Obviously the cheapest price possible. $299 is the magic number, and it's not worth more than that.

#34 Edited by -Damien- (5268 posts) -

199 bucks with PS4 included, then prolly bone would have a chance

#35 Posted by blackace (20238 posts) -

@blackace said:

@inb4uall said:

Not buying an xbone for more than $200.

That's what I keep saying about the Wii U. Already own XB1 and PS4. True Next Gen is just a remote controller away.

Is that your sex toy Alcapello? Thanks for sharing. One end for you and one end for Sony I would guess. lol!!

#36 Posted by Shielder7 (5151 posts) -

Didn't they just lower the price? Any more price drops will only make them look more desperate than they are now and won't help them. Price isn't the problem as PS4's continued dominance on Amazon Best Sellers after the price drop continues to show. The problem is the Xbone itself. It's just an overall inferior experience to the PS4. Both systems share like 90% of their library and Xbone continues to run these multiplats badly compared to the PS4 and unlike Sony last gen, MS' first party studios are incredibly weak compared to the competition so they can't rely on 1st party to save them. It's a hopeless cause, all they can do is try and make as much profit this gen and wait for nextgen to make a comeback.

I think a price drop would help but it needs to be lower than the PS 4 enough to justify the power vs cost ratio. The Wii sold better than the PS 3 and 360 because the price was a lot lower. No one want to pay the same amount for a weaker machine that do practically the same thing.

#37 Posted by Alcapello (763 posts) -

@blackace said:

@alcapello said:

@blackace said:

@inb4uall said:

Not buying an xbone for more than $200.

That's what I keep saying about the Wii U. Already own XB1 and PS4. True Next Gen is just a remote controller away.

Is that your sex toy Alcapello? Thanks for sharing. One end for you and one end for Sony I would guess. lol!!

I understand you having a hard time figuring out what the button in the middle is.

#38 Posted by blackace (20238 posts) -

Its significantly less powerful than a PS4 so it should cost significantly less.

LMAO!! NO!! The price is fine. Microsoft just needs to remarket it better and show the killer games that will be released for it over the next 6 - 18 months. Performance gap is already steadily closing. The more developers use the new tools M$ provide, the better their games are looking and performing. The differences are becoming more and more minor and that will continue through this year and next.

#39 Edited by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

It needs to be $100 cheaper than the PS4 at all times. It's really that simple. The PS4 is more powerful with very likely better exclusives going forward as the PS4 is selling much better.

It's not like the Wii U where some people might buy it along with the PS4 or Xbone. In regards to the PS4 and Xbone very, very few people will buy both systems. There's really no point in owning both, and the PS4 has several advantages over the Xbone including PS+ which gives you free monthly games along with being a more powerful system. The only way people will buy the Xbone over a PS4 is if it's at least a $100 cheaper.

Also, the PS4 has regularly being going for $359 shipped brand new on eBay recently from Buy.com. In other words MS has a long way to go before they're going to be competitive on price.

Other than power advantage theres not other advantage the ps4 has unless you want to play PS exclusives way more than Xbox exclusives. You are right there isn't much of a reason to own both but they both give free games and are selling on eBay for 359. If anything the Xbox one has features that the ps4 can't replicate with the TV input . Other than that there isn't much of a difference but I would say a 350 is a good price for it a 100 would be kind of a stretch

#40 Posted by hehe101 (601 posts) -

Get over yourself they had a terrible launch and media backlash that sony exaggerated by making childish videos. Microsoft are doing fine at recovering.

#41 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (849 posts) -

It's fine where it is now.

#42 Edited by silversix_ (14042 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@silversix_ said:

Its significantly less powerful than a PS4 so it should cost significantly less.

Does not have HDMI input, Live TV, or Snap feature.

You forgot one more features the Bone has over ps4. THE 792p. Never forget this one, its important for MS.

#43 Posted by -Damien- (5268 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@silversix_ said:

Its significantly less powerful than a PS4 so it should cost significantly less.

Does not have HDMI input, Live TV, or Snap feature.

You forgot one more features the Bone has over ps4. THE 792p. Never forget this one, its important for MS.

fo sho, only bone can offer such stupid resolution

#44 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (6324 posts) -

I think around 350 with kinect and a free game would hit close to home.

The hit MS would have to take with this is pretty insane. So I doubt it will happen, and if it does I feel sorry for MS.

#45 Posted by TheRealBigRich (726 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@silversix_ said:

Its significantly less powerful than a PS4 so it should cost significantly less.

Does not have HDMI input, Live TV, or Snap feature.

You forgot one more features the Bone has over ps4. THE 792p. Never forget this one, its important for MS.

At least give them the 900p lol