What do you consider a "failure"

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#1 Phenom316
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I think failure has all to do with the hype of the game. If a new south park game came out and got a 4.0, i would consider it a failure in a few games but not realy, because south park games normally get around a 3.0 so a 4.0 is a "success".

If LBP, got a 7.0, i would consider it a failure. Even though 7.0 is a good rating, it is being hyped for AAA (dont give me this AAAA crap) so in my eyes it would have "failed"

Anything above an 8.0 shouldnt be called a fail, because it is a great rating imo.

So what do you consider a "failure" among games?

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#2 Iraqi_Gangster
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Games that score lower than the hype. Like Liar :P
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#3 proud722
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It depends on the developer, the money they put into it, the work they put in corresponding, the time they spent on it and of course how much anyone believed it wasn't going to be **** in the first place.
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#4 SenorTinman
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Hype def has a huge factor for me. Can't really think of anything else that makes a game a "failure". If a game gets a 1.0-5.0 I just call it a "bad game".
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#5 POJO_MOFO
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   to name a few....oh you mean the poll? all of the above
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#6 mjarantilla
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Games that promise one thing but deliver something worse.
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#7 Lionheart08
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Games that promise one thing but deliver something worse.mjarantilla

This in a nutshell.

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#8 sneslover
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If I didn't play the game yet, 6.0 is a failure and games like Sonic that get around 4.0 are epic failures.

7.0 is okay.

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#9 Saturos3091
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Games that promise one thing but deliver something worse.mjarantilla


This quite oftentimes. Otherwise games I just don't like.
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#10 jharv
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Games that score lower than the hype. Like Liar :PIraqi_Gangster

Your spelling is a failure.

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#11 NSR34GTR
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:lol: liar
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#12 Headless-Santa
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2008 E3

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#13 SSlater413
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Game developers that make all the promises in the world and deliver absolutely nothing.
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1-5
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#15 Uncle_Uzi
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Games I don't like

Emphasis on games I don't like

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#16 goodgunda
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Games that score lower than the hype. Like Liar :PIraqi_Gangster

And too human

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#17 TenP
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Games that I dislike.

Heck, one of my favourite games of all time scored a 4.5 here...

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#18 Flamestos
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Games like Lair and Too Human (i.e.) scoring less then a 6. Haze was just generic. I wouldn't consider a game a failure based on hype because I believe hyping games is ridiculous in the first place. Even if a hyped game fails to meet what it's faction hyped it it can still be good unless you're a fanboy really.
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#19 LastRedMage
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OTHER!

A game is a Failure when it fails at what it set out to do.

If a game sets out to push the boundarys of interactive story telling, and ends up getting a fairly low score or has a poor story then it failed. If a game sets out to provide fun arcade action and does so dispite the score its a successe

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#20 desyple
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this thread

fail

jk

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#21 0rin
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In the real world, its whatever game I play and feel is a failure, like GeoW. Just not my thing, but I can respect that Epic took a lot of time and care with the game to make it as good as it can be for the type of game that it is. just not my type.

But here on system wars, You bet your sweet bippy that whatever game gets a lower score than what the majority hyped it to get IS and WILL BE considered a failure, flop, and will be used for ownage.

System Wars != Real Life. So here, games like R&CF, Too Human, Spore, and Infinite Undiscovery are unplayable, and pathetic attempts by their fanboys to try and make them out to be great games when all they are is flops. They probably won't even sell over 100 copies.

when IRL (in real life for those of you less internet-savvy people) They are all fine games if you're into that kind of thing, and they will sell just fine. The only people that base their REAL LIFE purchases off of one website's reviews are blind fanboys, and/or extreme casuals :/

But this is comon knowledge. I don't know why i'm still explaining this.
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#22 desyple
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In the real world, its whatever game I play and feel is a failure, like GeoW. Just not my thing, but I can respect that Epic took a lot of time and care with the game to make it as good as it can be for the type of game that it is. just not my type.

But here on system wars, You bet your sweet bippy that whatever game gets a lower score than what the majority hyped it to get IS and WILL BE considered a failure, flop, and will be used for ownage.

System Wars != Real Life. So here, games like R&CF, Too Human, Spore, and Infinite Undiscovery are unplayable, and pathetic attempts by their fanboys to try and make them out to be great games when all they are is flops. They probably won't even sell over 100 copies.

when IRL (in real life for those of you less internet-savvy people) They are all fine games if you're into that kind of thing, and they will sell just fine. The only people that base their REAL LIFE purchases off of one website's reviews are blind fanboys, and/or extreme casuals :/

But this is comon knowledge. I don't know why i'm still explaining this.
0rin
and just throwing this out here but gs is the only reviewer that gave r&cf:tod a bad score. teh average is around a 9.0 and it has an 89 metacritic score which is pretty good so this site is not always right.
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#23 chaoz-king
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If it does not meet what I think it should get. Its a fail IMO. I don't care if everyone loves the game. If I hate it, it fails in m book.
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My math skills
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#25 Coyo7e
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A game I like is not a failure, period.

It seems like a lot of people here spend more time checking forums and reading game previews then playing games and thus are always having their expectations dashed.

Gamers have become a very, very jaded lot.

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#26 sargentbotk
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PS3's exclusive library compared to the 360.

I can't find a game that's warrants my purchase :(. Now I have to wait until LBP comes out...

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#27 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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The psp and ps3
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#28 desyple
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The psp and ps3Gh0st_Of_0nyx
i think Gh0st_Of_0nyx failsfail
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#29 jharv
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Launch X360's. Well 33% of them that is.
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#30 0rin
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If it does not meet what I think it should get. Its a fail IMO. I don't care if everyone loves the game. If I hate it, it fails in m book.chaoz-king


But would you agree that one would have to spend a decent amount of time (at least a few hours) with said game in order to acchieve a full feel for that game, and decide whether or not that game is worth your time? I say a few hours, because games generally last around 10 hours. playing 2 hours of a 10 hour game is the equivalent of watching about 10 minutes of an hour long movie before deciding if its worth your time or not. I think even that is a stretch.. but yeah.

However, a lot of people seem to think they don't even need to play a game before they can determine whether or not they'd like it. whilst this may apply to certain games just fine (Like for instance I am absolutely positive I wouldn't ever enjoy a barbie or hello kitty game), Games like LBP, Spore, R&CF, MGS4, Too Human, and such *should* require you to play them before convincing yourself you don't like them.
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#31 Arjdagr8
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a game that sucks balls.

assassins creed had couple of more problems than i expected but man did i love that game.

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#32 DragonFlyJ
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The epitome of lemming's logic. The very thing they bash is what they want...

PS2 is has too many girly rpgs, now 360 is rpg king
360 is the king of FPS, PS3 has too many fps
Sony just rehases their games - 360 is taking away PS3 exclusives (FFXIII, GTAIV, VF5)

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#33 Headless-Santa
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The epitome of lemming's logic. The very thing they bash is what they want...

PS2 is has too many girly rpgs, now 360 is rpg king
360 is the king of FPS, PS3 has too many fps
Sony just rehases their games - 360 is taking away PS3 exclusives (FFXIII, GTAIV, VF5)

DragonFlyJ

Isnt being wrong in a forum and getting so many goo games worth it?

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#34 Phenom316
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Launch X360's. Well 33% of them that is.jharv

Ahh cow i see

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#35 Sully28
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Games that are bad to me. Such as lair, gears of war, and many more!
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#36 Phazevariance
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A failure.... the ps3.
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#37 verbtex  Moderator
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I don't ever consider a game a failure.

Despite how bad the controls are, how bad it flopped, how messed up the camera is, how anything thats bad a game it is, I still care for every single game out there.

A game is only a failure if it hasn't exsisted yet.

And even then, how do you know its a failure? :P

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#38 DerMeister90
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The Sega Dreamcast reeks of failure

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#39 spencer_119
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something that gets overly hyped but fails
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#40 t3hTwinky
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A game that straight up doesn't deliver on what it promises is a complete failure as far as I'm concerned. If it scores less than I hoped it would, then its just a simple dissapointment.

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#41 LordQuorthon
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A game I thought I was going to like, but end up not liking.

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#42 angelkimne
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Games that score lower than the hype. Like Liar :PIraqi_Gangster
Mass Effect was NO failure :twisted:

Just a flop.

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#43 poker-face
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Games that receive less than 9 out of 10 are not worth my time.
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#44 Ace132
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the wii?
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#45 chutup
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Games that receive less than 9 out of 10 are not worth my time.poker-face

You casual! I only play games rated 10.

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#46 poker-face
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[QUOTE="poker-face"]Games that receive less than 9 out of 10 are not worth my time.chutup

You casual! I only play games rated 10.

That's sad. You're missing out on a lot of good games because of that silly rule you've made for yourself.

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#47 chutup
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[QUOTE="chutup"]

[QUOTE="poker-face"]Games that receive less than 9 out of 10 are not worth my time.poker-face

You casual! I only play games rated 10.

That's sad. You're missing out on a lot of good games because of that silly rule you've made for yourself.

Not really. Considering how easy it is to get a 10 these days, anything less is really a failure. I don't want to waste my time with those crappy games. I'd rather just play one of my 10-rated games again. After all, games like GTAIV, Ocarina of Time and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 have much more replay value than any floppy 9-rated games.

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#48 mmlgamer
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I consider a game a failure when I consider the game a failure.
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#49 Hewkii
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System Wars, and because of the people that see this message as thinking the hype system is broken.