"We're building Faith for a new generation."

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/06/24/mirrors-edge-2-will-be-focussing-on-first-person-combat-says-dice-general-manager/

Mirror's Edge 2 will also be "focussing on first-person combat", says DICE general manager

"What I can say is that if the last game focussed on first-person movement, it was definitely shown in the movie here that the DICE team will be focussing on first-person combat as well, to really nail and refine that," Troedsson told CVG."

"Fans of the game will just have to wait and see until we talk more about the actual game is and the vital mechanics of it," Troedsson said. "We've shown the combat and movement now, but there's so much more to talk about. What I can say is, this is not just going to be the same game as the last one. We're building Faith for a new generation."

RIP in peace Mirrors Edge

So they're ruining it :(

I feel like this game is more about evading and getting rid of of your pursuers rather than stopping in the middle of platforming to do a whole "press A to awesome" move.

Oh well. As long as it's all properly optional. Doubt it though.

Isn't the point to not kill people? it goes against her character? I mean the gunplay was awful in the first... but why would you enphasis it -_-;

oh right... EA... DICE... and the console audiance that only plays shallow shooters!.

alright!!!! More FPS in Mirrors edge!!!! That will make it stand out from FPS'

I love how negative you guys all are. They aren't going to turn it into some combat based FPS. This is just your typical PR jargon that all companies say when trying to make headlines.

The combat in Mirror's Edge was pretty weak so if you did find yourself stuck into a fight you had to battle the clunky controls which was just frustrating especially given how smooth the movement controls were. Fixing that will in no way compromise the experience and will probably make it even more fluid and fast.

The game is also going to be more open world/sandbox than the previous title. So they have yet to elaborate on that.

Mirror's Edge 2 is being built by a much smaller and more focused team than other DICE games. I believe I heard they only have a total of 37 people working on it internally while their Battlefield games have nearly 300. They aren't going to turn Mirror's Edge, their baby, into some shooting/combat game. They fought EA just to make the game in the first place and they are giving it special care.

This game will probably end up being awful, but I will get it anyway, simply because I loved the first one.

Except the negativity is kinda warranted ;)

Pretty much all franchises become mainstream as they itterate. Dead Space, RE, Splinter Cell, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Thief, just to name a few.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's no surprise that people (especially system warriors) become jaded.

They should certainly strengthen the combat elements, but there's a tangible risk that they will receive heavier emphasis.

Negativity isn't warranted at all. It's just cynical people trying to look superior by bashing anything that isn't the status quo or bashing anything that isn't 100% pure innovation.

Developers can't win. I have no idea why game developers even bother making games when their own fanbases constantly turn against them for either making a game too different than what they wanted or too similar to the last one.

I liked how weak the combat elements were in the first game. You are a small woman running from guys with guns. Combat should be a last resort, imo, and making it easy to just take everyone out would defeat the entire point of the game, imo.

I have faith. Day one buy by default.

Dammit EA...

If you listened to their E3 video of it, they are changing her combat to be about utilizing speed and momentum to drive force into her kicks and takedowns. They are trying to make her move and fight more naturally for a woman her size. There was nothing in the videos that indicated Faith would just be brawling with people. A lot of the takedowns were coming off of sprinting jumps, bounding off of walls, or jumping down onto somebody.

how can you jump to conclusions like that if the same team is designing the system? Maybe it will take a different approach to combat that works.

History says DICE PR jargon is usually telling people what they WANT to hear... This is not what people want to hear.

I actually agree with you, but that's pretty much humanity in a nutshell. the Youtube comment sections are cesspools regardless of the topics.

I expect that it's mostly just trolling in sw, but things generally quickly turn sour when people can't be held directly accountable. The dying optimist in me however, tends to think that the fans often mean "EA" when they say "Dice".

Don't let it get to you man ;) Sentiments like these pretty much killed my programming career before it ever took off.

Edit:

Excuse my rather poorly worded initial post. English is a secondary language and I did'nt get any sleep last night.

(Constructive) criticism is warranted, hateful comments and negativity are definitely not; especially not in the entertainment industry.

Lol at RIP Mirror Edge or they ruining it. Nailing and refining the combat could mean bringing it up with the parkour in pace, as said before that they are utilizing speed and momentum more.

I hated mandatory combat sections with machine-gunners near the end of the original. To make matters worse, they had infinite ammo and never reloaded!!!

I think developers should just make the game they want to make, not listen to feedback during the development process, and hope for the best. At the same time, they really shouldn't come out and criticize a beloved game that they made and say that they are going to fix something that lead in large part to their previous title being great. If it ends up being as Wasdie described, then fine. As I said, I loved the first game so DICE has earned a purchase from me for Mirror's Edge 2. There is a fine line between improving the combat and completely ruining everything that made the first game great, though. If it gets to the point that you can easily disarm people and take out large groups, this game could turn into Mirror's Creed very quickly. It makes sense that fans of the original would be worried about this.

What are you talking about? They already do that...

@Wasdie: do you honestly expect that a fan base of thousands, if not millions will have the same opinion or want the same thing?

Game makers knows that a game is made for a group of people with different preference, not a for a fan base with the exact same taste. They know they can't please everybody so they do what they think is best.

I was mostly referring to Wasdie's "Developers can't win" comment. I don't think developers should be seeking consumer feedback in the first place. They know how to make games, and their consumers don't. If they do a good job, the game will sell well and they will be rewarded handsomely.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

You want them to make games while not knowing what their consumers want. Okay.... Lets see how that works out in todays generation.

How many people were crying out for a first person platformer where you are a total wimp and run away from all the people with guns? I don't think any people were, yet Mirror's Edge was made and it was great.

Bigger tits confirmed.

Dunno why my taste is different than others. I only enjoyed the non combat (platforming) part of the first Mirror's Edge.

Anyway, I got used to having my favorite franchises ruined for my taste (Colin McRae to Dirt, MK2 to MK3, etc..). So I don't know.. let's see. I hope they won't add too much combat.

Lets see....2008?

There were tons of advertisements and the commercial ran on TV for months and the main song was great. Also the graphics and art style looked great and very appealing at that time. The game was released only a couple years after parkour got especially popular outside of France and other western European countries. When you look at Mirrors Edge how would a game like this not look appealing?

So yeah, if they don't look for direct feedback they usually go off of what they know or what they think appeals to the masses.

It's about money, they're a business, they don't pull shit out of their asses and sell it which is what you think they should do.

Combat is first game was awful, hope they improve that.

I loved the original. To the point of calling it my "game of the generation".

Any indication to me that they are going for "mainstream appeal" is going to cause me to be very cynical and negative. I won't judge till I get the final product, but still, this isn't very encouraging.

Can we have killstreaks? I think it'd be great if after killing 10 enemies they let you call an AC130 to clean the path

It's not encouraging that they are going to spend some time focusing on making sure the combat is up to par with the movement mechanics?

Just re-watch the E3 video they showed of their prototypes. It's clear they aren't changing the focus of the game to combat, but rather trying to make the combat work better with the movement mechanics in the game. In Mirror's Edge you almost always had to come to a stop to engage in combat and it was very clunky. This would just frustrate me as there were times combat was unavoidable and the combat had an entirely different feel than the rest of the game.

As long as I enjoy it as much as I did the first, they can do whatever they want to it.