We all win this generation.

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#1 Posted by Marfoo (5993 posts) -

For one simple reason. Shared architectures.

If the next Xbox also uses AMD procesors (both CPU and GPU) then games will be cheaper to develop on the PS4, Xbox720 and the PC. All 3 systems would be using x86 which makes porting things between consoles and to the PC much easier. Xbox720/PC will also be very similar in that they'll be using DirectX as the API. All 3 systems will be using AMD's GCN graphics architecture which means what's learned on console should translate to PC for Radeon users. The only major difference is that the PS4 will be using Linux so its graphics API is probably OpenGL, but even that benefits the PC market as there is an ongoing effort to push more games to Linux.

That leaves the Wii U as the odd man out. It differentiates itself by using IBM's PowerPC CPUs and AMD's (what I assume to be) VLIW5 architecture instead of GCN.

Of course, PC will always have the highest fidelity of all the systems, but we don't always get the best titles and we definitely haven't been getting the best ports (if we get them at all). Maybe this will all change... maybe.

#2 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

I know I won. I had every system at one time or another. And I have been playing games like mad and trying to beat the ones I know I will never play once the new systems come out.

#3 Posted by AdobeArtist (22789 posts) -

And as close as the gaming experience will be on all platforms (excluding Wii U), fanboys will still bicker about which plastic box is best.

System Wars gonna System Wars ;)

#4 Posted by Badosh (12727 posts) -
Sheep lose.
#5 Posted by LazySloth718 (2332 posts) -

360 best this gen

PS4 best next gen

called it

#6 Posted by Eddie-Vedder (7776 posts) -

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

#7 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

I lost because I only had a PS3 

Eddie-Vedder
Well that is your fault.
#8 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (6610 posts) -

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

Eddie-Vedder

And yet, the system with no games had more exclusives than the PS3 in 2012.

How interesting.

#9 Posted by Puckhog04 (22604 posts) -

I win every generation because i always end up owning all the Consoles, have back to the NES. So...good for me. :|

I'll be waiting on the new Xbox a bit though. PS4 and Wii U are good for awhile.

#10 Posted by LazySloth718 (2332 posts) -

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

Eddie-Vedder

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

#11 Posted by Marfoo (5993 posts) -
I hope because of this, more games will be developed in parallel to consoles for the PC. (I'm looking at you, Rockstar)
#12 Posted by FastEddie2121 (3081 posts) -
This is a reasonable conclusion and makes sense. It has no business being here in System Wars.
#13 Posted by Sweenix (5396 posts) -

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

LazySloth718

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

america = the world.. :?

#14 Posted by faizan_faizan (7846 posts) -
I hope because of this, more games will be developed in parallel to consoles for the PC. (I'm looking at you, Rockstar)Marfoo
Rockstar has improved, Max Payne 3 was unexpectedly good, And if you're wondering about GTA V then no worries because it happens with every GTA and you just have to get used to it. GTA V will release on PC few months after the console versions get released.
#15 Posted by Marfoo (5993 posts) -

Well then, let's talk about the differences. The Jaguar architecture. The per core performance is going to be pretty weak against any desktop CPU, although in comparison to the Cell and the old 3-core PowerPC thing that the 360 was using it's a major step up. Still don't think it was the right choice.

EDIT: Also, the GDDR5? How can PC keep up with 8 GIGABYTES OF GDDR5. My poor GPU only has 2GB. :cry:

#16 Posted by Marfoo (5993 posts) -
[QUOTE="Marfoo"]I hope because of this, more games will be developed in parallel to consoles for the PC. (I'm looking at you, Rockstar)faizan_faizan
Rockstar has improved, Max Payne 3 was unexpectedly good, And if you're wondering about GTA V then no worries because it happens with every GTA and you just have to get used to it. GTA V will release on PC few months after the console versions get released.

Yeah, I know they can do it, and Max Payne 3 is the shining example. GTA IV... was just... never again.
#17 Posted by Gue1 (9416 posts) -

you only lose if you own or want an Xbox. RRoD, pay to play online, DVD.... lol

 

oh, and no games either. 2013 is dry and its future is bleak. 

#18 Posted by Lucianu (9312 posts) -



Of course, PC will always have the highest fidelity of all the systems, but we don't always get the best titles and we definitely haven't been getting the best ports (if we get them at all). Maybe this will all change... maybe.

Marfoo

Eh, i would say that titles on this platform are more future proof because they are improved by the community on a frequent basis, and issues with them are usually fixed within a week or two. GTA IV in its current modded iteration is practically a generation ahead and i didn't experience issues with it wen i had a desktop, for a example of a previous horrible port. 

Anyway, i expect deliciously entertaining fanboy wars wen the 720/PS4 is released, every single fanboy out there is going to gush out of the corners and claim superiority against the PC platform.

For about a year or two. Then everything will be back to normal. 

#19 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

Sweenix

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

america = the world.. :?

Do people ever get tired of saying that? American website. Don't like it then leave,
#20 Posted by Nanomage (2367 posts) -
[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

timbers_WSU

america = the world.. :?

Do people ever get tired of saying that? American website. Don't like it then leave,

Really? It says Gamespot UK on my end,and there´s also GS Australia and Asia,GS is an international site.
#21 Posted by funsohng (27535 posts) -
Meh, what is this peace-sucking hippie communist bullcrap.
#22 Posted by Obviously_Right (5091 posts) -

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

timbers_WSU

america = the world.. :?

Do people ever get tired of saying that? American website. Don't like it then leave,

What does that have to do with what he said?

Fvck, you're dumb :?

#23 Posted by Heil68 (43244 posts) -
When you're #legendary, you're #winning all the time.
#24 Posted by freedomfreak (38717 posts) -
Sagem, do you post on 9lives?
#25 Posted by Clock-w0rk (3238 posts) -

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="Sweenix"]

america = the world.. :?

Obviously_Right

Do people ever get tired of saying that? American website. Don't like it then leave,

What does that have to do with what he said?

Fvck, you're dumb :?

#26 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

Eddie-Vedder
:lol: So true. Jump out lems!!
#27 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="Sweenix"]

america = the world.. :?

Obviously_Right

Do people ever get tired of saying that? American website. Don't like it then leave,

What does that have to do with what he said?

Fvck, you're dumb :?

Pretty simple. Every month we see "America does not equal the world" post. If someone does not like Americans posting American sales on an American website then I am sure Sweden and Japan have their own websites. And I bet tenaka2's country lets them meet at the park.
#28 Posted by Clock-w0rk (3238 posts) -

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] Do people ever get tired of saying that? American website. Don't like it then leave,timbers_WSU

What does that have to do with what he said?

Fvck, you're dumb :?

Pretty simple. Every month we see "America does not equal the world" post. If someone does not like Americans posting American sales on an American website then I am sure Sweden and Japan have their own websites. And I bet tenaka2's country lets them meet at the park.

Do the world a favour and shut up. 

#29 Posted by platniumgamer (4087 posts) -

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

What does that have to do with what he said?

Fvck, you're dumb :?

Clock-w0rk

Pretty simple. Every month we see "America does not equal the world" post. If someone does not like Americans posting American sales on an American website then I am sure Sweden and Japan have their own websites. And I bet tenaka2's country lets them meet at the park.

Do the world a favour and shut up. 

Agreed.

Kinda weird how he holds a grudge against certain poster.

#30 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

Eddie-Vedder
#31 Posted by Speedzilla (1756 posts) -

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

kuraimen

#32 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16744 posts) -
I know I win. I am so excited right now. Sitting here waiting on UPS to show up with the last few parts to my PC so I can go upstairs and build it. So I am ready for next gen. Then next year or the year after, I buy the PS4. Well I still need to buy three monitors, but the one I have now is good enough until that purchase.
#33 Posted by g0ddyX (3889 posts) -

Yup.
PS4/PC/720 win this gen but not the Wii:U

Microsoft can just pay any dev to port games to the 720 for it to have games cos technically, it should be easier to port.

#34 Posted by FinalFighters (1356 posts) -

you only lose if you own or want an Xbox. RRoD, pay to play online, DVD.... lol

 

oh, and no games either. 2013 is dry and its future is bleak. 

Gue1
#35 Posted by darkspineslayer (19476 posts) -

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

speedfreak48t5p

And yet, the system with no games had more exclusives than the PS3 in 2012.

How interesting.

What universe is that? Serious question, what are these games?
#36 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28338 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Well to be fair Lems lose cause they have no games. 

Sweenix

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

america = the world.. :?

pretty much its not like there is this sort of species difference between america and the rest of the world im pretty sure the rest of the world is just like us...food, home and a good family. If we are in the same in that aspect and pretty much all other aspects then its not like the 360 sells well only in america the only place it doesn't sell super well is japan but even there its sold a million+ consoles. side note: god damn eddie has alot of alt accounts speedzilla finalfghters..etc
#37 Posted by AdobeArtist (22789 posts) -

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

WilliamRLBaker

america = the world.. :?

pretty much its not like there is this sort of species difference between america and the rest of the world im pretty sure the rest of the world is just like us...food, home and a good family. If we are in the same in that aspect and pretty much all other aspects then its not like the 360 sells well only in america the only place it doesn't sell super well is japan but even there its sold a million+ consoles. side note: god damn eddie has alot of alt accounts speedzilla finalfghters..etc

Dude, come on, really now? Just because we're all the same species, you don't realize that nationalities are very much differentiated by cultural values? Yeah we all have families, but family values differ greatly by culture, as do tastes and styles of cuisine. Everybody has jobs across the globe but that doesn't mean work ethics and standards of employer/employee relations are the same everywhere.

Europeans, Americans, and Asian culture is also strongly contrasted in musical styles, TV and movie styles of story & performance, illustrative art, literature, and even more significantly the underlying subtext to art & entertainment subject matter. This especially speaks of the values within art, most especially in violence and sexuality.

European and Asian culture is nothing like North American, I don't know ehre you got the idea to use NA as a metric for the rest of the world :roll:

#38 Posted by outworld222 (2367 posts) -

Wow I like feeling like a winner. I never get tired of that sentence

 

#39 Posted by Marfoo (5993 posts) -
[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

How sad, no games and sold the most for 25th month.

While PS3 with all the "games" nobody wants to play.

WilliamRLBaker

america = the world.. :?

pretty much its not like there is this sort of species difference between america and the rest of the world im pretty sure the rest of the world is just like us...food, home and a good family. If we are in the same in that aspect and pretty much all other aspects then its not like the 360 sells well only in america the only place it doesn't sell super well is japan but even there its sold a million+ consoles. side note: god damn eddie has alot of alt accounts speedzilla finalfghters..etc

It happens though, look at the Sega Genesis, didn't do very well compared to SNES in the USA but thrived in tons of other regions. Also, in Japan loyalty is huge and that means being loyal to a company even in bad times, meaning their fanboyism is in their culture, and it's not just to prove who's better, it's to do what's right.
#40 Posted by Angry_Mushroom (705 posts) -
[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Marfoo"]I hope because of this, more games will be developed in parallel to consoles for the PC. (I'm looking at you, Rockstar)Marfoo
Rockstar has improved, Max Payne 3 was unexpectedly good, And if you're wondering about GTA V then no worries because it happens with every GTA and you just have to get used to it. GTA V will release on PC few months after the console versions get released.

Yeah, I know they can do it, and Max Payne 3 is the shining example. GTA IV... was just... never again.

LA Noire wasn't perfect in implementation as well. Better than GTA IV mind you, but not perfect. As for the future? I'm expecting a decent port of anything that comes out on console.
#41 Posted by faizan_faizan (7846 posts) -

[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Rockstar has improved, Max Payne 3 was unexpectedly good, And if you're wondering about GTA V then no worries because it happens with every GTA and you just have to get used to it. GTA V will release on PC few months after the console versions get released.Angry_Mushroom
Yeah, I know they can do it, and Max Payne 3 is the shining example. GTA IV... was just... never again.

LA Noire wasn't perfect in implementation as well. Better than GTA IV mind you, but not perfect. As for the future? I'm expecting a decent port of anything that comes out on console.

LA Noire was not developed by R* North or any R* Studio.