Watch_Dogs aka the biggest downgrade of this gen

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#1 Edited by R4gn4r0k (23712 posts) -

The last trailer we saw was pretty jarring, as it had graphics that were way worse than what Ubisoft originally showed.

Someone made a gif to showcase how graphics looked then and now.

The latest trailer they showed:

People are hoping it was the last gen version they showed off. But how many times has Ubisoft done that in an official Watch_dogs trailer ?

Also, according to Playstation Denmark, it was the PS4 version being shown in the last trailer O_o

Another fact why the last trailer was from current gen versions and not last gen: The trailer was in 1080p and the PS3/360 footage could not be recorded at that resolution.

Prepare to be underwhelmed

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#2 Edited by uninspiredcup (20218 posts) -

Quite obvious my friend. Pretty much all publishers used a pimped up pc in attempt to dupe the mainstream console users.

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#4 Posted by R4gn4r0k (23712 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

Quite obvious my friend. Pretty much all publishers used a pimped up pc in attempt to dupe the mainstream console users.

First impressions and all that...

I doubt the PC version will look anything like the original E3 footage either.

They showed the PC version once, and then we never heard anything of it ever again. That's reason enough to be skeptical.

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#5 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9729 posts) -

Initially, I didn't think it looked that bad graphically, but the Second Son streams really showcased how bad Watch Dogs looks in comparison. If only there weren't Wii U, PS3, and 360 versions :(

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#6 Posted by R4gn4r0k (23712 posts) -

Also, another piece of evidence that there last trailer was from the current gen version and not the previous gen version: it was running in 1080p. So it could not be captured from PS3/360 footage.

@Desmonic said:

Holy sh!t! That is indeed a massive downgrade! :S It still looks good, but nowhere near what they had shown. Sweet Jebus! Guess The Division will also suffer a similar downgrade.. so much for that hype...

Yeah, I mean Ubisoft is basically known now for showing off an amazing trailer first and then downgrading the graphics trailer by trailer until the final release.

It looks ... good yeah. But it looks like GTA 5 with a better draw distance and higher res. So definitely nothing next gen.

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#7 Posted by blangenakker (3130 posts) -

If this is true Ubisoft then no one is going to want to trust you again.

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#8 Posted by sukraj (26451 posts) -

The game looks last gen.

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#9 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -

even though the rain/spot light is missing, it does look very dull. Time will tell A: just for consoles, B whole package

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#10 Posted by trugs26 (7212 posts) -

Maybe it's the glossy water shader that made it look better. Sure it may have downgraded, but it seems like a bad comparison since one is in rain and the other isn't.

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#11 Posted by uninspiredcup (20218 posts) -

https://twitter.com/Design_Cave/status/441678169675169792

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#12 Edited by R4gn4r0k (23712 posts) -

@Xaero_Gravity: Yeah, if Infamous Second Son can do realistic looking weather and lighting in an open world game, I don't see why Watch Dogs had to be so downgraded from what they originally showed us.

@trugs26 said:

Maybe it's the glossy water shader that made it look better. Sure it may have downgraded, but it seems like a bad comparison since one is in rain and the other isn't.

True, but it's the whole game that was downgraded, not just the wet surfaces.

Just give the last trailer a watch, and compare that to how the game originally looked. It's a massive downgrade. To give some examples

-Character models look worse

-Cars don't have reflection like they used to

-Lighting looks way worse

and so on and so forth

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#14 Posted by remiks00 (3701 posts) -

Wow....., very disappointing.....

Did they downgrade the PC version as well? If so, I hope it's nearly as bad as whats being shown...

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#15 Edited by Kevlar101 (6314 posts) -

While watching a video of gameplay footage here on GS, I actually noticed a bit of pop-in.

I don't like pop-in.

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#16 Posted by getyeryayasout (10444 posts) -

I'm getting tired of all these cross gen games, bring on the real deal. Even so if it's fun I'll get it.

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#17 Edited by Cheleman (8190 posts) -

blame the xbox one/10

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#18 Posted by trugs26 (7212 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@Xaero_Gravity: Yeah, if Infamous Second Son can do realistic looking weather and lighting in an open world game, I don't see why Watch Dogs had to be so downgraded from what they originally showed us.

@trugs26 said:

Maybe it's the glossy water shader that made it look better. Sure it may have downgraded, but it seems like a bad comparison since one is in rain and the other isn't.

True, but it's the whole game that was downgraded, not just the wet surfaces.

Just give the last trailer a watch, and compare that to how the game originally looked. It's a massive downgrade. To give some examples

-Character models look worse

-Cars don't have reflection like they used to

-Lighting looks way worse

and so on and so forth

Okay. When I can be bothered I will have a watch. Otherwise, you can make me some more gif comparisons to save me time :P

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#20 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9729 posts) -

@Cheleman:

You're officially Chop, Michael, finalstar, Super, 2ndWonder, Charizard, Enforced, and the Wii U rolled into one.

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#21 Posted by Snugenz (13388 posts) -

Fucking Ubisoft up to their usual tricks, next up will be The Division... smh

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#22 Posted by nutcrackr (13022 posts) -

Lighting looks pretty bad as do the shadows. Def downgrade.

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#23 Posted by misterpmedia (5986 posts) -

Maybe it went through dev hell while it was delayed. Pretty noticeable downgrade for sure. And if this is the PS4 version....then well....

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#24 Posted by uninspiredcup (20218 posts) -

Doom 3 has cooler lighting.

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#26 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

I seriously hope that's a mistake and it's the last gen version.

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#27 Posted by Cheleman (8190 posts) -

@Xaero_Gravity:

looks like a hit a nerve rofl

xaero... listen to me.

listen...

i was once known as "the man with the facts". that still hasnt change today. i base all my posts on factual observation ok? i don't make shit up. the xbox one/10 IS holding back game development, and thats the truth. its time to accept it, my rodent friend.

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#28 Posted by Mozelleple112 (6946 posts) -

Can we start boycotting when developers downgrade this much? Start showing off the real game ,damnit. This downgrade is just downright terrible.

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#29 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9729 posts) -

@Cheleman:

The saddest kind of troll is the one that tries to take credit for another man's work. I'm ashamed to even be associated with one such as yourself.

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#30 Edited by blamix99 (2685 posts) -

still getting the collector's edition on PS4

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#31 Posted by Evo_nine (2161 posts) -

No way I don't believe it.

Someone is having us on.

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#32 Edited by 2mrw (5604 posts) -

the trailer wasn't as exciting as I have hoped but I don't believe the downgrade is that big.

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#33 Posted by EducatingU_PCMR (1464 posts) -

Ubi pulling another FC3.


They can **** themselves this time. Not getting my money if it turns out to look like that.

Next on the list of f**k ups: The Division.

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#34 Edited by R4gn4r0k (23712 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

https://twitter.com/Design_Cave/status/441678169675169792

Well, I hope the PC version looks better. But it not being shown for years now has me really skeptical.

I'll believe it when I see it, footage from a third party that has nothing to do with Ubisoft.

@trugs26 said:

Okay. When I can be bothered I will have a watch. Otherwise, you can make me some more gif comparisons to save me time :P

I can't take credit for that gif, someone else made it. That gif only shows the difference between one of the first builds and a preview build from a few months ago.

@GrenadeLauncher said:

I seriously hope that's a mistake and it's the last gen version.

Doesn't look that way. Several things pointing to this being the current gen version:

-Ubisoft always showed off the current gen version in trailers

-Playstation Denmark confirmed it was PS4 footage

-Trailer was in 1080p, so could not be captured from PS3/360 footage.

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#35 Posted by stuff238 (1759 posts) -

They might as well delay it again if this is true. I am not going to play that crappy version.

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#36 Edited by silversix_ (23428 posts) -

This is the primary reason is despise ubisoft. Do you remember how amazing The Division 'gameplay' looked? I'll let you guess how much of a colossal downgrade this will be. Its a pathetic company that should be sued for lying in front of millions of peeps.

EDIT: at this point sleeping dogs looks better ROFL

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#37 Edited by R4gn4r0k (23712 posts) -

@stuff238 said:

They might as well delay it again if this is true. I am not going to play that crappy version.

Please no, each time they delay it the graphics take a huge hit.

Next time they delay it, the graphics will look like this:

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#38 Posted by lglz1337 (4798 posts) -

ubisoft always do this nothing new

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#39 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

@silversix_: Yes. The thought of The Division getting a downgrade now seem very realistic and heartbreaking. We can only hope it isn't so!

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#40 Posted by R4gn4r0k (23712 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

This is the primary reason is despise ubisoft. Do you remember how amazing The Division 'gameplay' looked? I'll let you guess how much of a colossal downgrade this will be. Its a pathetic company that should be sued for lying in front of millions of peeps.

I agree that creating hype for your product based on false footage or CGI claiming to be real 'in-game' footage should not be allowed.

But I'm glad to see that people in this thread and on the internet in general are growing more and more conscious of this, and expect The Devision to be downgraded as well.

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#41 Edited by silversix_ (23428 posts) -
This downgrade will be colossal and be remembered as a standard of severe downgrades, mark my words
This downgrade will be colossal and be remembered as a standard of severe downgrades, mark my words

It will happen to The Division and the downgrade will be at least twice as severe. Why? Because just look at these graphics and tell me this is possible (not only graphics but how filledup the world is with micro details AND THIS IS an open world game lol)

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#42 Posted by Master_ShakeXXX (13361 posts) -

Wow, that is really bad. I'm glad I wasn't hyped for this game.

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#43 Posted by TheShadowLord07 (22489 posts) -

It still looks pretty interesting though I am waiting for it to drop to around $20 like when I picked up far cry for $15 on amazon. it does make you wonder rather or not the division and the crew graphics would also get downgraded

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#44 Edited by Truth_Hurts_U (9697 posts) -

@silversix_:

Yeah, very sad... Was looking forward to playing Division.

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#45 Posted by Harisemo (4133 posts) -

Latest trailer is likely captured from PS4. When I watched the E3 2012 gameplay I knew right then it wasn't going to look like that, not on consoles at least but to be fair the real downgrade test should be between E3 2012 gameplay vs Maxed out final PC version.

Don't get your hopes up for The Division either. It will get similar treatment as Watch Dogs.

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#46 Posted by napo_sp (600 posts) -

@silversix_ said:
This downgrade will be colossal and be remembered as a standard of severe downgrades, mark my words
This downgrade will be colossal and be remembered as a standard of severe downgrades, mark my words

It will happen to The Division and the downgrade will be at least twice as severe. Why? Because just look at these graphics and tell me this is possible (not only graphics but how filledup the world is with micro details AND THIS IS an open world game lol)

lol and people don't believe that console hold back graphics... I mean obviously the E3 demo ran on PC and therefore such graphics is possible, if somehow it get downgrade then it's because of consoles.

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#47 Posted by Solid_Max13 (3588 posts) -

Thanks ubisoft you delayed the game six months to look like this... Really I'm still buying it but damn really?

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#48 Edited by joehult (609 posts) -

People still don't realize ubi is the puppy mill of video games? Every thing is overhyped shovel ware with this company. Every one of their open world games is nothing more than far cry 2 with a different background. This has been obvious since '07.

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#49 Posted by freedomfreak (48813 posts) -

Games get downgraded all the time. Granted, this is a really, really bad downgrade.

Regardless, do not want.

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#50 Edited by silversix_ (23428 posts) -

@napo_sp said:

@silversix_ said:
This downgrade will be colossal and be remembered as a standard of severe downgrades, mark my words
This downgrade will be colossal and be remembered as a standard of severe downgrades, mark my words

It will happen to The Division and the downgrade will be at least twice as severe. Why? Because just look at these graphics and tell me this is possible (not only graphics but how filledup the world is with micro details AND THIS IS an open world game lol)

lol and people don't believe that console hold back graphics... I mean obviously the E3 demo ran on PC and therefore such graphics is possible, if somehow it get downgrade then it's because of consoles.

i don't think this is possible on pc either unless you want to play in 20fps. Its just too detailed for an open world game. Hell its an mmo.... how many mmo's look 50% of what Division does? There's nothing.