Was Skyrim the best RPG of 7th gen?

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#51 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3610 posts) -

Never played it, but I imagine Mass Effect is way better.

#52 Edited by WitIsWisdom (3798 posts) -

Skyrim? no

#53 Posted by NoirLamia777 (2162 posts) -

No, Demons Sous, Dark Souls II, and Dark Souls share that crown.

#54 Edited by wis3boi (31461 posts) -

@Kevlar101 said:

@wis3boi said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@wis3boi said:

@foxhound_fox said:

RPG? Lol, no.

Open-world action-adventure? Sure.

that, and only on PC. Skyrim on consoles is a joke

And people like you are why I avoid being a PC gamer. Stop being gaming-racist. Consolites are people too.

because a version that runs sub 30fps, sub HD, looks like diarrhea, and has more bugs is totally awesome

I experienced no real bugs or glitches whatsoever in my 300+ hour playthrough.

Most games run at 30 FPS.

sub HD? Wtf are you on about?

Looks like diarrhea? It looks perfectly fucking fine. Real gamers are not "grafix whores" such as yourself and every other member of the so-called "masta rais."

#55 Posted by pelvist (4856 posts) -

No, The Witcher 2 was.

#56 Edited by Flubbbs (3139 posts) -

Fallout 3 imo.. i thought Oblivion was better than Skyrim

#57 Posted by Vatusus (4689 posts) -

Nope. Both Demon's and Dark souls were better

#58 Posted by jake44 (2021 posts) -

No.

#59 Edited by nintendoboy16 (26869 posts) -

@AdobeArtist said:

A great RPG to be sure, but best of the 7th gen goes to Mass Effect trilogy.

And yes, it IS an RPG series :P

Now that I've beaten the first game and am in the middle of the second, you can put me on the list of people who think ME is an RPG as well. :) (if that is what you're talking about as I remember those arguments, if not... well, I feel as embarrassed as the Rap Critic when he said something stupid near one of his cameos).

#60 Edited by Stringerboy (7083 posts) -

You have to be shitting me.

#61 Edited by foxhound_fox (88688 posts) -

@Kevlar101 said:

I am 180 hours into my third playthrough of Oblivion on 360.

Wanna compare shit?

Holy shit, defensive much?

Console Bethesda games are passable. They aren't bad, but they aren't terribly good either. Playing them on the PC is something everyone who ENJOYS them should endeavour to do, because the mods really change the experience.

I first played Skyrim shortly after it came out and the mod scene was pretty barren. Got back into it a couple months ago and the mods make it significantly better.

#62 Posted by AdobeArtist (22937 posts) -

@nintendoboy16 said:

@AdobeArtist said:

A great RPG to be sure, but best of the 7th gen goes to Mass Effect trilogy.

And yes, it IS an RPG series :P

Now that I've beaten the first game and am in the middle of the second, you can put me on the list of people who think ME is an RPG as well. :)

It's an uphill battle, but truth will prevail :)

#63 Edited by Kevlar101 (6204 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@wis3boi said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@wis3boi said:

@foxhound_fox said:

RPG? Lol, no.

Open-world action-adventure? Sure.

that, and only on PC. Skyrim on consoles is a joke

And people like you are why I avoid being a PC gamer. Stop being gaming-racist. Consolites are people too.

because a version that runs sub 30fps, sub HD, looks like diarrhea, and has more bugs is totally awesome

I experienced no real bugs or glitches whatsoever in my 300+ hour playthrough.

Most games run at 30 FPS.

sub HD? Wtf are you on about?

Looks like diarrhea? It looks perfectly fucking fine. Real gamers are not "grafix whores" such as yourself and every other member of the so-called "masta rais."

Okay, good for you? That looks really amazing, yes, but I am a real gamer, so those PC graphics will not stop me from loving an already spectacular game on consoles, despite lower quality graphics.

#64 Posted by uninspiredcup (8924 posts) -

Darksouls big masterpiece for winners.

#65 Edited by Master_ShakeXXX (13361 posts) -

I had tons of fun with Skyrim but it's not the best. I hope that for the next ES game they put some more effort in their dungeon designs. What's the point of having all of those dungeons if each and every one of them looks fairly similar, are super linear, and don't contain any interesting puzzles or anything like that to break up the action? Also some better writers wouldn't hurt. All that said I'm super excite for a next gen ES.

#66 Edited by Celtic_34 (1286 posts) -

i liked fallout 3 and oblivion and mass effect 1 the best. kind of dated as far as graphics though. skyrim probably was the best overall as far as everything coming together. just thought some of it got a little bit cheesed. mass effect 1 vs the later mass effects was kind of the same to me. thought the witcher and dragon age were kind of overrated as far as series.

1. Fallout 3

2. Oblivion

3. mass effect 1

4. skyrim

5. fable 2

honorable mentions: new vegas, mass effect 2 and 3.

everything else i didnt find worth playing.

#67 Posted by texasgoldrush (9252 posts) -

No, Skyrim is the most overrated RPG of all time......so many problems ignored by reviewers.

Nevermind it commits the ultimate sin....I never was truly rewarded in the game for the things I did, because the leveling system is sooooooooooo bad.

I mean quest rewards are Ultima IX Lighthouse Quest bad.

#68 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (7805 posts) -

New Vegas or the Souls series for me. Skyrim was a good game but not a great RPG. The melee gameplay still sucks, although it was improved from Oblivion.

#69 Posted by happyduds77 (1476 posts) -

Only with mods.

#70 Posted by GhoX (5027 posts) -

Skyrim is the most accessible RPG that allows the greatest number of people to have a relatively good time. It is however far from the best.

Witcher 2 and Dark Souls 1/2 are vastly superior when it comes to Western-style RPG, but both games are less accessible in different ways.

#71 Posted by UnbiasedPoster (872 posts) -

@Kevlar101 said:

@Boddicker said:

@UnbiasedPoster said:

It's no Fallout 3, that's for sure.

Fallout 3 was a steaming pile of shit.

Glad somebody else finally said it and stopped kissing Fallout 3s ass.

Fallout 3 is better than any game either of you played last gen.

Comparitively, Skyrim is like watching paint dry.

#72 Edited by Kevlar101 (6204 posts) -

@UnbiasedPoster said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@Boddicker said:

@UnbiasedPoster said:

It's no Fallout 3, that's for sure.

Fallout 3 was a steaming pile of shit.

Glad somebody else finally said it and stopped kissing Fallout 3s ass.

Fallout 3 is better than any game either of you played last gen.

Comparitively, Skyrim is like watching paint dry.

I really just don't see the appeal of Fallout.

The Wasteland is a good way to describe the game as a whole: empty, and full of a whole lot of nothing.

#73 Edited by stationplay_4 (443 posts) -

i had more fun with oblivion and fallout 3 than skyrim. but skyrim was fun while it lasted.

#74 Posted by Ballroompirate (23029 posts) -

I'd have to agree Skyrim is the best RPG of gen 7, it would look something like this

  1. Skyrim
  2. Dark Souls 2
  3. The Witcher 2
  4. Dark Souls
  5. Mass Effect 2
  6. Mass Effect
  7. Dragon's Dogma
  8. Demon Souls
  9. The Witcher
  10. DA Origins
#75 Posted by Ripsaw1994 (112 posts) -

Toss a couple quest mods and some gameplay overhauls and sure

#76 Edited by osan0 (12739 posts) -

@Motokid6: oooooOoooo hunterborn looks like an interesting mod. i didnt know about that one. must give it a go next time i am playing skyrim. frostfall is something bethesda should have done themselves for skyrim. it has a massive effect on the game and the way it is played in a very positive way.

i would give the nod to witcher 1 and 2 and xenoblade over skyrim. they had more interesting game mechanics, the stories were much better and they were more interesting to explore. the world ends with you on the DS is also worth a mention (so gutted last year when the teaser turned out to be a port to IOS....blech.). top notch game.

however skyrim was still great (especially with forstfall). better than oblivion but not as good as morrowind imho.

#77 Posted by bbkkristian (14955 posts) -

That award goes to Xenoblade Chronicles. the game that has an actual battle system with a unique world, killer soundtrack, great story with lots of drama, and has a magnificent artstyle. And it has British voices.

#78 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13040 posts) -

@texasgoldrush said:

I mean quest rewards are Ultima IX Lighthouse Quest bad.

Oh...hell, son...you didn't. But you so did.

#79 Posted by jg4xchamp (48338 posts) -

Wasn't even the best RPG of that year.

Dark Souls, Fallout New Vegas, and The Witcher 2 were all more enjoyable games.

#80 Posted by evildead6789 (7880 posts) -
@SolidGame_basic said:

I really can't think of anything else that I enjoyed more. The world and story were fantastic, the gameplay was fun, the graphics were amazing for its time. The sidequests were great, which other RPGs seem to have trouble with. Also, decisions you made in the game actually had some weight. Not to mention the numerous GOTY awards it won, probably even more than The Last of Us. So can we agree that it was the best RPG of 7th gen? Btw, can't wait for the next Fallout!

Hard to say Fallout 3, fallout new vegas, dark souls, dragons dogma, fable II , oblivion, mass effect were all very good rpg's.

A lot of these games do some things better than skyrim does BUT

Skryim is so big, a living and breathing world

That I must completely agree, Probably spend a 1000 hours in that game, or more...

Btw the last of us isn't even in the same league as all the games mentioned above. And yes the next fallout but dark soul IIs is coming to the pc so that my next thing. Don't think fallout will be soon though

#81 Posted by Evo_nine (1741 posts) -

No, that title goes to mass effect.

#82 Edited by Seabas989 (10381 posts) -

Skyrim? Hell no.

#83 Posted by highking_kallor (524 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@wis3boi said:

@foxhound_fox said:

RPG? Lol, no.

Open-world action-adventure? Sure.

that, and only on PC. Skyrim on consoles is a joke

And people like you are why I avoid being a PC gamer. Stop being gaming-racist. Consolites are people too.

because a version that runs sub 30fps, sub HD, looks like diarrhea, and has more bugs is totally awesome

Its the way you go about bragging about it idiot. Another topic over your head. Bet your pc struggles to even run it.

#84 Posted by Joedgabe (5114 posts) -

I never played it, but considering it's popularity and positive feedback i'd have to wager on Mass Effect trilogy.

#85 Posted by wis3boi (31461 posts) -

@highking_kallor said:

@wis3boi said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@wis3boi said:

@foxhound_fox said:

RPG? Lol, no.

Open-world action-adventure? Sure.

that, and only on PC. Skyrim on consoles is a joke

And people like you are why I avoid being a PC gamer. Stop being gaming-racist. Consolites are people too.

because a version that runs sub 30fps, sub HD, looks like diarrhea, and has more bugs is totally awesome

Its the way you go about bragging about it idiot. Another topic over your head. Bet your pc struggles to even run it.

stop trolling

#86 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7451 posts) -

@highking_kallor said:

@wis3boi said:

because a version that runs sub 30fps, sub HD, looks like diarrhea, and has more bugs is totally awesome

Its the way you go about bragging about it idiot. Another topic over your head. Bet your pc struggles to even run it.

You can throw together a pretty cheap system that makes the console counterpart look like turd and still look pretty. Not ground breaking like a middle of the pack $1k system, but still much much better. I cannot imagine playing it on the console, all the keys, toying with console commands like spawning 10 dragons, mods, LOAD TIMES, graphics, and what not.

I was running the game on vanilla on native 1080p, and my friend was already blown away by the visuals. I haven't got around throwing all the crazy mods myself, but I'd imagine that the hermits experienced ps4 level visuals with skyrim. Oh heck you can plug your controller into the pc and pretend your playing skyrim on the ps4/xbone. Pretty much the reason why I am holding out on the next gen until next year when there are finally a library to choose from.

I play consoles too, but pc is just a better experience to be had. It is rare for anyone to argue against a pc once they experience it. Those that are console exclusive, typically find ways to justify sticking to consoles, and make assumptions, imo.

@op, this gen is a let down for rpg. Not a fan of all the open world rpg and the traditional jrpg is dead to me now sadly, but I'd say skryim is up there. I just don't have a definitive number 1 in mind.

#87 Posted by wis3boi (31461 posts) -
@Kevlar101 said:

@wis3boi said:

@Kevlar101 said:

I experienced no real bugs or glitches whatsoever in my 300+ hour playthrough.

Most games run at 30 FPS.

sub HD? Wtf are you on about?

Looks like diarrhea? It looks perfectly fucking fine. Real gamers are not "grafix whores" such as yourself and every other member of the so-called "masta rais."

Okay, good for you? That looks really amazing, yes, but I am a real gamer, so those PC graphics will not stop me from loving an already spectacular game on consoles, despite lower quality graphics.

so all you got out of my screenshots was graphics? You missed the fact I'm playing on a completely different continent with its own quest lines and themes and items, the fact I'm a bard class that plays music as a skill, among other things. It goes deeper than graphics, but I'm not surprised that someone whose had no experience of the Elder scrolls main platform would think the only think it has different is visuals. Go read the Nexus sometime and check out the free content

#88 Posted by 187umKILLAH (1345 posts) -

Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen is my favourite but Skyrim is a close second.

#89 Edited by highking_kallor (524 posts) -

@Bikouchu35: I know what you mean. I play skyrim on my cheap midrange laptop. Ultra settings, hd textures lots of mods. I just don't think you need to brag hard out and be all arrogant about it like cry baby wis3boi. Still brought it for ps3 as well. Why not I like trophy's.

#90 Posted by wis3boi (31461 posts) -

@highking_kallor said:

@Bikouchu35: I know what you mean. I play skyrim on my cheap midrange laptop. Ultra settings, hd textures lots of mods. I just don't think you need to brag hard out and be all arrogant about it like cry baby wis3boi. Still brought it for ps3 as well. Why not I like trophy's.

I pointed out the complete lack of care bethesda put (or couldnt even achieve, probably) in their console ports of a PC-centric series, and you got rather upset (legit or not), not me. Why anyone could find the vaseline smear and bug fest that is console skyrim enjoyable is beyond me. Even the most hardcore console fans I know sold their copies and grabbed it on a steam sale just for the mountains of free content alone, and if you have a bug or impassable quest/door, etc on PC, at least a fix is ingame at your fingertips with the command prompt console

#91 Posted by texasgoldrush (9252 posts) -

@br0kenrabbit said:

@texasgoldrush said:

I mean quest rewards are Ultima IX Lighthouse Quest bad.

Oh...hell, son...you didn't. But you so did.

yeah, I did.

I get weapons that are outclassed by what I have....they give me junk.

#92 Edited by trugs26 (5568 posts) -

I'm pretty sure most agreed that it was Xenoblade.

#93 Posted by highking_kallor (524 posts) -

@wis3boi: I just enjoy games in general. I'm not an uptight prick about it. Never had a problem with skyrim on either platform to be honest.

#94 Posted by kipsta77 (1014 posts) -

Nope. The Witcher 2 and Fallout NV were.

#95 Posted by CTR360 (7102 posts) -

WRPG skyrim its the best JRPG xenoblade ni no kuni and dark souls 2

#96 Posted by HipHopBeats (2899 posts) -

Skyrim is good but gets kind of boring over time whereas Fallout 3 had me playing for hours. Way more interesting NPC's, lore and quests in Fallout 3. You never knew what you were going to read on those computer terminals. In Skyrim, I'd fine books, read a few then end up skimming through the rest. Lusty Argonian Maid was my favorite book in Skyrim though. Plus Fallout 3's leveling system felt more fun.

#97 Posted by bfmv2007 (289 posts) -

Oblivion>Skyrim End of story.

#98 Edited by _Matt_ (8924 posts) -

Dark Souls/Dark Souls 2.

Then Oblivion.

#99 Posted by milannoir (1558 posts) -

Had a blast playing Skyrim; installed a crapload of mods that made it both beautiful and very interesting to play.

I have no idea why people even want to play this on consoles though.

#100 Posted by charizard1605 (58136 posts) -

Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver were better.

But if we are talking consoles (and excluding Persona 4 because it was on the PS2/PSV), then yes, Skyrim is hands down the best RPG of last generation. Second would be Dragon Age: Origins.