Was Dreamcast more powerful than PS2? Why did it fail?

[QUOTE="jetslalom"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

In some aspects the dreamcast was more powerful, in others it was weaker. It failed because people bought into sony's hype. Hilariously, some people still buy into it.

DarkLink77

the playstation brand did more for gaming than any other console brand, if it wasnt for sony we would still be playing side scrollers. ps1 had the best games, ps2 had the best games, and now ps3 has the best games. every1 else just copies

nintendo is whack!!

Dreamcast failed because Sega screwed developers big time with the Saturn. Sega bailed out early on the saturn to make the dreamcast. EA stopped making games for them because of this and it was the beginning of the end for Sega.

Dreamcast failed because Sega screwed developers big time with the Saturn. Sega bailed out early on the saturn to make the dreamcast. EA stopped making games for them because of this and it was the beginning of the end for Sega.

xscrapzx

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Dreamcast failed because Sega screwed developers big time with the Saturn. Sega bailed out early on the saturn to make the dreamcast. EA stopped making games for them because of this and it was the beginning of the end for Sega.

digi-demon

The EA/Sega relationship soured because Sega knew that sports games were incredibly successful which is why the Mega Drive did so well. EA wanted full monopoly on sports game development for the Dreamcast, but Sega said no, so EA didn't support them.

Sega's 2K series were incredibly well made. Their NBA, NFL, and Tennis games scored very high across the board, but they were not as popular as games like Madden regardless of quality.

It failed because:

A) It didn't have a DVD player

B) Mistakes made Sega in past generations

It really did everything it could right. It was at a reasonable price, had good marketing, and tons of good games. Sega just made to many bad decisions in past generations. Still, it had some support after it was discontinued. Games continued to be released in Japan long after they stopped coming out in the west, with the last official DC game, TriggerHeart Exelica, coming out in 2006.

easy to pirate on, sega was bleeding money, and PS2 hype destroyed the dreamcast

88mphSlayer

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jetslalom"]

the playstation brand did more for gaming than any other console brand, if it wasnt for sony we would still be playing side scrollers. ps1 had the best games, ps2 had the best games, and now ps3 has the best games. every1 else just copies

jetslalom

nintendo is whack!!

It failed because:

A) It didn't have a DVD player

B) Mistakes made Sega in past generations

It really did everything it could right. It was at a reasonable price, had good marketing, and tons of good games. Sega just made to many bad decisions in past generations. Still, it had some support after it was discontinued. Games continued to be released in Japan long after they stopped coming out in the west, with the last official DC game, TriggerHeart Exelica, coming out in 2006.

unknown37

[QUOTE="unknown37"]

It failed because:

A) It didn't have a DVD player

B) Mistakes made Sega in past generations

It really did everything it could right. It was at a reasonable price, had good marketing, and tons of good games. Sega just made to many bad decisions in past generations. Still, it had some support after it was discontinued. Games continued to be released in Japan long after they stopped coming out in the west, with the last official DC game, TriggerHeart Exelica, coming out in 2006.

forza420

Size doesn't matter, it's all about how you use it ;)

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

In some aspects the dreamcast was more powerful, in others it was weaker. It failed because people bought into sony's hype. Hilariously, some people still buy into it.

jetslalom

the playstation brand did more for gaming than any other console brand, if it wasnt for sony we would still be playing side scrollers. ps1 had the best games, ps2 had the best games, and now ps3 has the best games. every1 else just copies

Still be playing sidescrollers? I have a call for you... they say their name is Super Mario 64... they sound a bit confused.

[QUOTE="jetslalom"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

In some aspects the dreamcast was more powerful, in others it was weaker. It failed because people bought into sony's hype. Hilariously, some people still buy into it.

neildneil

the playstation brand did more for gaming than any other console brand, if it wasnt for sony we would still be playing side scrollers. ps1 had the best games, ps2 had the best games, and now ps3 has the best games. every1 else just copies

Still be playing sidescrollers? I have a call for you... they say their name is Super Mario 64... they sound a bit confused.

after the poor support of the saturn by Sega, 3rd parties werent amused and talked with their feet a lot of big publishers were reluctant to commit to the DC at launch which left sega witha big problem.

Also the format sega chose for the disk wasnt a good idea either especially at a time piracy was rampant on the PS1.

[QUOTE="Reemer99"]

Games

As far as hardware goes

Dreamcast>PS2

Saturn>PS1

mr-krinkles

It failed because it didn't have enough great games and it didn't have the dual analog sticks that everyone loved so much.

I can only hope sega release a new console so it can stick all it's super great Sonic 3d games on it and superb games like the Conduit. Oh wait.

Sega is like Woody Harrelson in Kingpin. Amazing early on but now just a drunk with one hand. And the person who took that hand, sony, is dominating.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="myke2010"]

^^This.

Sony probably spent more on advertising the PS2 then Sega spent in total on the Dreamcast. It's hard to compete when your competition can outspend you 3-4 times over.

myke2010

The N64 wasn't the colossal failure the Saturn was. Nintendo still made a nice little profit that gen.

[QUOTE="jetslalom"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

In some aspects the dreamcast was more powerful, in others it was weaker. It failed because people bought into sony's hype. Hilariously, some people still buy into it.

DarkLink77

the playstation brand did more for gaming than any other console brand, if it wasnt for sony we would still be playing side scrollers. ps1 had the best games, ps2 had the best games, and now ps3 has the best games. every1 else just copies

2 questions as in topic. Want some answers!

mr-krinkles

Answer 1: Not really, but it was close to.

Answer 2:

5 factors

1. Internal Struggle between Japan and US offices

2. Hype from the PS2

3. Piracy

4. Microsoft's entry into the console market

5. Debts since the Saturn

LOL does it matter TBH they both looked horrible compared to the GC and Xbox ghost392

No it wasn't more powerful, not in most ways at least. Why did it fail? because it didn't have sony's finantial backing for marketing and a build in DVD drive wich had people buying a PS2 to watch movies while they waited for good games to come out for a year.

As for games. Thats one thing the Dreamcast did NOT lack in at all. The dreamcast had one hell of a library for its short time being around then after soon i believe most of its good games were ported over to the PS2 once it died out.

Skies Of Arcadia (one of my fav RPGS ever)

Grandia II ( I believe this appeared on the PS2 months later)

House Of The Dead

Tokyo Xtreme Racer

Crazy Taxi

Jet Grind Radio

Space Channel 5 (great game it was silly but fun lol)

Shenmue

Phantasy Star Online (some of my best times online)

Power Stone

Soul Calibur

Dead or Alive 2

Marvel Vs Capcom 2

Sonic Adventures

Even the sports 2k series was great. The dreamcast was awesome to me it deserves more credit than its recieving in this thread.