Ubisoft: Wii U Owners Don’t Buy Assassin’s Creed

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#1 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (2106 posts) -

Ubisoft: Wii U Owners Don’t Buy Assassin’s Creed; More Interested in Just Dance

http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/ubisoft-wii-u-owners-dont-buy-assassins-creed-interested-just-dance/

“It’s very simple. What we see is that Nintendo customers don’t buy Assassin’s Creed. Last year, we sold in very small numbers.”

“What we see is that they are very interested in Just Dance, very interested by other kinds of games. So what we are trying to do is to focus more on the types of games they are interested in.”

When asked about the Watch Dogs situation, Yves went on to say the following.

“[Watch Dogs] is coming to Wii U. It will be the only mature game we publish on it.”

Yeah, why companies should make any multiplatform game on Wii U when Wii U owners not buying anything than their own Mario and Zelda only?

Assassins Creed is not the first game that flopped on Wii or Wii U. Call of Duty Wii u version sold less than 1%

Also Grand Theft Auto game flopped on DS. All big exclusives like Call of Duty, Dead Space, Grand theft auto, Assassins Creed, Tomb Raider on Nintendo platforms. Nintendo owners only play Mario, Zelda and Just Dance games.

#2 Edited by uninspiredcup (7781 posts) -

Makes sense. Assassins Creed is a hardcore game in which you walk around aimlessly and occasionally press X to win during a fight. Only for Playstation and Xblox. Very corehard.

#3 Posted by Wiiboxstation (114 posts) -

I don't own a WiiU to play trash like ac. Happy to see other WiiU owners think alike.

#4 Posted by farrell2k (5793 posts) -

Not surprising that COD old less than 1% on the system. There were only 5 million systems sold, and even less for Assassins creed. Not really a great way to compare interest in games when you are going up against consoles with 80+ million user bases.

#5 Posted by farrell2k (5793 posts) -

Makes sense. Assassins Creed is a hardcore game in which you walk around aimlessly and occasionally press X to win during a fight. Only for Playstation and Xblox. Very corehard.

lol.

#6 Edited by MonsieurX (29471 posts) -

I don't own a WiiU to play trash like ac. Happy to see other WiiU owners think alike.

This.

Also Grand Theft Auto game flopped on DS. All big exclusives like Call of Duty, Dead Space, Grand theft auto, Assassins Creed, Tomb Raider on Nintendo platforms. Nintendo owners only play Mario, Zelda and Just Dance games.

You seriously need to stop talking out of your ass

#7 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (24844 posts) -

I bought Assassin's Creed 3 New at launch. I however bought Assassin's Creed IV used because it was way cheaper than buying it new and at the time I heard it wasn't going to get the DLC so I backed off from it (I however bought Splinter Cell Blacklist NEW in turn).

I guess I'm in the very VAST minority when it comes to Nintendo gamers because I bought most of my Ubisoft offerings New.

It really is a wonder why Nintendo is a failing ship when it comes to 3rd Party. Buy a Nintendo console only for Nintendo games, Already treating Nintendo as a 2nd rate company and making their systems into nothing more than Glorified 3rd Party Peripherals to the Stand Alone Systems.

Also just so you know China Town Wars on the DS was pretty lackluster. It saw poor sales on the PSP and Mediocre sales on the App store too (though I think the highest profits went to the App store If I remember correctly). Nintendo consoles have never really had a "Proper" Grand Theft Auto game and it's sad to know it might never will.

#8 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26258 posts) -

I bought Assassin's Creed 3 New at launch. I however bought Assassin's Creed IV used because it was way cheaper than buying it new and at the time I heard it wasn't going to get the DLC so I backed off from it (I however bought Splinter Cell Blacklist NEW in turn).

I guess I'm in the very VAST minority when it comes to Nintendo gamers because I bought most of my Ubisoft offerings New.

It really is a wonder why Nintendo is a failing ship when it comes to 3rd Party. Buy a Nintendo console only for Nintendo games, Already treating Nintendo as a 2nd rate company and making their systems into nothing more than Glorified 3rd Party Peripherals to the Stand Alone Systems.

Also just so you know China Town Wars on the DS was pretty lackluster. It saw poor sales on the PSP and Mediocre sales on the App store too (though I think the highest profits went to the App store If I remember correctly). Nintendo consoles have never really had a "Proper" Grand Theft Auto game and it's sad to know it might never will.

Here's a defense I heard for this: It's because Nintendo's putting most of the effort into their games and most third parties just don't give a shit when given the opportunity.

In fact, RRPG recently made this rant on the sad state of third parties. I don't agree with all of it, but I see some points.

#9 Posted by silversix_ (14042 posts) -

Enjoy your 15 Just Dance sequels in the next 5 years.

#10 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (10284 posts) -

Add Splitscreen and they'l buy them.

#11 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (24844 posts) -

Here's a defense I heard for this: It's because Nintendo's putting most of the effort into their games and most third parties just don't give a shit when given the opportunity.

In fact, RRPG recently made this rant on the sad state of third parties. I don't agree with all of it, but I see some points.

The dude was completely taking just about word for word from this article.

I'll listen to it, but I'll just quote this person from Nintendo Life.

I think much of it is kind of Silly.....Rockstar won't put GTA on a Nintendo console because they don't want to be outsold by Nintendo games? That doesn't make sense unless you are thinking they have some sort of ego involved.

So Just think about that for a second. The dude in the video AND the article said.

3rd party publishers don’t want Nintendo on top, they don’t want Nintendo consoles to be number 1. It’s not that they don’t respect Nintendo, but it’s the fact that it would be harder for Sony and Microsoft to compete with Nintendo if they had strong 3rd party support. Imagine the Wii U being the cheapest console this generation with all your favorite 3rd party games, 1st party games and free online.

So taking Rockstar to account since they are a 3rd Party Developer. This person said that Rockstar is afraid of Nintendo being TOO successful if they had released their game on their console.

Just......THINK......about what is said.

Rockstar the current RECORD HOLDER of the FASTEST SELLING GAME/MEDIA/OF REALLY ANYTHING OF ALL TIME. A thing that surpassed Movie Ticket Sales of Harry Potter and Pirates of the Caribbean combined....is afraid of Nintendo being TOO successful if they released their games on the system.

This should be the sound you should be hearing right now.

This Article (the topic's article) shows CLEARLY what is up with 3rd Party developers. WiiU gamers just aren't interested in the WiiU versions of these games. It's just that simple. WiiU isn't showing a clear difference between consoles and it's user base isn't keen to go buy them either. They are probably getting the PS3 versions of the game, or the PC versions, or heck 360 versions? I know maybe they're buying the Xbox One versions. WiiU versions? Over their dead body, because they don't want the weakest version of the game and that's how Gamers are looking at the WiiU versions of these 3rd Party games.

3rd Parties don't want to sell their games on a system that will not give them anything in return. It's why Xbox One exclusives have recently started appearing on Steam, it's why 3rd Party developers are more attracted to the PS4 (cause just about everything sells on that system) ane it's why 3rd parties left WiiU.

Sales do matter in the end and in short so does Hardware which was ultimately what killed WiiU's 3rd Party.

#12 Posted by Kenny789 (10215 posts) -

Great, I'm in the minority. I bought Assassin's Creed III and Black Flag new for the Wii U and only got Just Dance used. Oh well, while I would have liked to play Rogue on the Wii U, I won't complain about it since I can play it on the PS3. Unity, on the other hand, is going to be another reason for me to save up and get a PS4 sometime down the road.

#13 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (24844 posts) -

@Kenny789 said:

Great, I'm in the minority. I bought Assassin's Creed III and Black Flag new for the Wii U and only got Just Dance used. Oh well, while I would have liked to play Rogue on the Wii U, I won't complain about it since I can play it on the PS3. Unity, on the other hand, is going to be another reason for me to save up and get a PS4 sometime down the road.

Don't go PS4. Get PC. It has Unity too. Not too pleasing with Uplay involved, though with how Next Gen is shaping up PC seems to be a better deal in the long run.

#14 Posted by Kaze_no_Mirai (11104 posts) -

Honestly it doesn't help that games like Assassin's Creed an Call of Duty are so hard to find for Wii U at retail locations. Stores stock plenty of copies for other consoles but only a couple for the Wii U. With that being said I'm aware that third party software sales aren't great on Wii U but I'm sure being difficult to find sure doesn't help.

#15 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (24844 posts) -

Honestly it doesn't help that games like Assassin's Creed an Call of Duty are so hard to find for Wii U at retail locations. Stores stock plenty of copies for other consoles but only a couple for the Wii U. With that being said I'm aware that third party software sales aren't great on Wii U but I'm sure being difficult to find sure doesn't help.

Oh man yes. Retailers are the worst when it comes to stocking WiiU games. PS3, 360, Xbox One, PS4. Shelves filled with Games...RELEVANT games, games that have came out this year...but Wii, WiiU, DS, 3DS, and Vita (lol PSP?) is just a jumbled mess filled with games that have been released maybe 2 years ago and maybe JUST maybe a few games from a year ago...though the 3DS is a little bit more organized.

Walmart is not a fun place to get games.

#16 Posted by ConanTheStoner (4695 posts) -

I can't remember the last time I bought a multiplat on a Nintendo console... Soul Calibur 2 maybe?

#17 Posted by humanistpotato (233 posts) -

Makes sense. Assassins Creed is a hardcore game in which you walk around aimlessly and occasionally press X to win during a fight. Only for Playstation and Xblox. Very corehard.

lol +1 to this

I dont think noone buys a wiiu to play CoD

But i wish nintendo made a new series, shame it wont happen

#18 Edited by Speak_Low (927 posts) -

Yves has spoken, and it's a 'no' to Nintendo. It was bound to happen, and Ubisoft and other publishers have given this company more than enough chances to make a statement.

Good third-party support is an earned privilege, and Sony/MS owners have consistently shown to be a more demonstrative lot than Nintendo owners in sales, and will continue getting these new games. Having consoles with a time-proven history of solid third-party sales will do that. And even with the smaller Next-Gen install bases earlier this year and last holiday season, the PS4/X1 versions of AC, COD and other big multiplats were never a pathetic 1% of total sales. I've been told that if the Wii U multiplats weren't missing DLC + online features, that pathetic 1% would majestically rise, meeting or exceeding the novice PS4/X1 ratios. This is where we laugh some more.

If Wii Fit U, Wii U Sports Club (remake of one of the best-selling games of all time, now with free online modes!) still flopping hard, and Mario Kart 8 itself not enough to help sell systems, it's about time to put those set of excuses away and just admit the average Nintendo game buyer is very different from the Sony/MS one, and these are the results you're getting back. Sadly, we'll see more weak defenses and excuses for Nintendo's successor when it also has trouble selling again, and "innocent Nintendo" is somehow a trapped victim of a dirty industry game, set on making them fail on purpose.

The real, plausible scientific explanation for why third-party doesn't sell well is probably because millions of Wii U owners lack an innate sense of direction and are completely lost in an electronics store, but know exactly where the copies of Just Dance U are at, and will drop $60 on that instead of COD, AC IV and Batman (all of which sold worse than the Just Dance U games).

Millions of Wii U owners have spoken with their dollars, and their rhythmically-timed swaying hips.

#19 Posted by superbuuman (2675 posts) -

Never got into AC ..didn't buy it on PS3/PC either...I did get Splinter Cell Blacklist, Rayman Legends, & ZombiU on Wii U. Still waiting on Watch Dogs to be release on Wii U...however if Ubi is gonna wait years later then release it at $79AUD..when I can pick up PS3/PC version for $29AUD or less ..then they can take their Wii U version & shove it up their arse. Never bought Just Dance on Wii nor Wii U. I am in the minority Wii U owners that do buy 3rd party as long as it not too screwed. :P

#20 Posted by aroxx_ab (9257 posts) -

Assassins creed was one of the launch game i bought with my WiiU day 1. Black flag i got for free with my new graphic card.

It is hard to buy multiplat games when Mario/Zelda is the only games released for the system...

#21 Edited by nintendoboy16 (26258 posts) -

@aroxx_ab said:

It is hard to buy multiplat games when Mario/Zelda is the only games released for the system...

Pikmin 3

LEGO City Undercover

Wonderful 101

Yep, definitely nothing but Mario and Zelda.

Soon: Bayonetta 2, Splatoon

#22 Edited by DocSanchez (1559 posts) -

@wiiboxstation: Haha. Sure. Problem is, no one is buying any third party on Nintendo and so you wont be getting any. You can call it trash, but it's to the Wii U's detriment.

Celebrating not getting games, it's finally happened. The cycle has moved on from blind faith that the games are coming.

#23 Edited by hiphops_savior (7855 posts) -

@LegatoSkyheart: Slightly off topic, but you how Chinatown Wars happen to be in 2.5d? That might explain why it sold in mediocre numbers.

#24 Edited by Micropixel (862 posts) -

Last I checked, just dance didn't do any better on Wii U than AC.

But honestly, first party games are the sole reason anyone buys a Nintendo console to begin with. It's also the reason 3rd party companies like Ubisoft struggle with their libraries when competing with Nintendo's on a Nintendo console. A lot of games on the system are getting ignored because everyone who owns a Wii U is addicted to Mario Kart. The same thing will happen when Smash Bros hits. And then again when The Legend Of Zelda releases, and again when we finally see a Metroid game. This is a pattern we've been seeing since 1996 with the N64 almost 20 years ago.

If you're a 3rd party developer looking to break the cycle, you have to make something TRULY remarkable that can actually compete for attention from those games. And re-re-re-redundant Assasin's Creed is not the title to do it. Maybe not even Watch_Dogs. I'm not saying their games aren't good (I own most of them and love them), but there are a lot of Nintendo titles I'd play over most of theirs.

THAT is Ubisoft's real problem.

#25 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150273 posts) -

Yes and that is why Nintendo owners get less third party games. They haven't been buying them for a couple generations now. I really don't get how they don't take advantage of other games but it is what it is. Until they support the games...they don't get them. And it's a catch now because less games get created for them because they don't buy them.

#26 Posted by yokofox33 (29347 posts) -

I know I didn't buy AC for the WiiU. I prefer my AC games on the Playstation.

#27 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26258 posts) -

Last I checked, just dance didn't do any better on Wii U than AC.

But honestly, first party games are the sole reason anyone buys a Nintendo console to begin with. It's also the reason 3rd party companies like Ubisoft struggle with their libraries when competing with Nintendo's on a Nintendo console. A lot of games on the system are getting ignored because everyone who owns a Wii U is addicted to Mario Kart. The same thing will happen when Smash Bros hits. And then again when The Legend Of Zelda releases, and again when we finally see a Metroid game. This is a pattern we've been seeing since 1996 with the N64 almost 20 years ago.

If you're a 3rd party developer looking to break the cycle, you have to make something TRULY remarkable that can actually compete for attention from those games. And re-re-re-redundant Assasin's Creed is not the title to do it. Maybe not even Watch_Dogs. I'm not saying their games aren't good (I own most of them and love them), but there are a lot of Nintendo titles I'd play over most of theirs.

THAT is Ubisoft's real problem.

Even in the SNES era, Nintendo's (and Rare's) titles STILL lead the pack. It just seems to me that the only way Nintendo is to have any success with third parties is to go all Revolver Ocelot on MUCH of their big IP's (Mario, Zelda, their share on Pokemon). Of course, despite dying interest, that will be the last straw between Nintendo and their fans.

#28 Posted by kingjazziephiz (2404 posts) -

Eh, I hate both series equally

#29 Posted by Netret0120 (2027 posts) -

Any Ac fan with half a brain knows it is FAR better on PS/Xbox or Pc.

3rd party games are dead on WiiU. Other than EA sports Fifa or something.

#30 Edited by Micropixel (862 posts) -
@nintendoboy16 said:

@Micropixel said:

Last I checked, just dance didn't do any better on Wii U than AC.

But honestly, first party games are the sole reason anyone buys a Nintendo console to begin with. It's also the reason 3rd party companies like Ubisoft struggle with their libraries when competing with Nintendo's on a Nintendo console. A lot of games on the system are getting ignored because everyone who owns a Wii U is addicted to Mario Kart. The same thing will happen when Smash Bros hits. And then again when The Legend Of Zelda releases, and again when we finally see a Metroid game. This is a pattern we've been seeing since 1996 with the N64 almost 20 years ago.

If you're a 3rd party developer looking to break the cycle, you have to make something TRULY remarkable that can actually compete for attention from those games. And re-re-re-redundant Assasin's Creed is not the title to do it. Maybe not even Watch_Dogs. I'm not saying their games aren't good (I own most of them and love them), but there are a lot of Nintendo titles I'd play over most of theirs.

THAT is Ubisoft's real problem.

Even in the SNES era, Nintendo's (and Rare's) titles STILL lead the pack. It just seems to me that the only way Nintendo is to have any success with third parties is to go all Revolver Ocelot on MUCH of their big IP's (Mario, Zelda, their share on Pokemon). Of course, despite dying interest, that will be the last straw between Nintendo and their fans.

RARE (in their old N64 form) is a perfect example of the kind of caliber that 2nd and 3rd party developers need to be if they're going to work on a Nintendo platform. I think most people who played during that era would agree that RARE produced some of the very best games for that system (even better than most of Nintendo's) and essentially saved it from being a disaster.

#31 Edited by ZombeGoast (407 posts) -

Maybe because Wii U owners knows what'a shitty port when they see one.

#32 Posted by foxhound_fox (87621 posts) -

They could have made exclusive content for the Wii U version to make it a compelling purchase, considering most people who own one also probably own a PS3/360, PS4/XBone or PC, there is no reason to buy that version.

But blame Wii U owners, not the game. The game is obviously perfect.

#33 Posted by PonchoTaco (1961 posts) -

Makes sense. Assassins Creed is a hardcore game in which you walk around aimlessly and occasionally press X to win during a fight. Only for Playstation and Xblox. Very corehard.

Truth

#34 Edited by KungfuKitten (20833 posts) -

lol
Are they turning into a mobile game dev?
Oh these games don't sell on this system because the people who buy this system are not interested in these kinds of games. Maybe these kinds of games means games that work better on other platforms. I have AC for the Wii U and it ran and played and looked poorly.

#35 Edited by KungfuKitten (20833 posts) -
and their rhythmically-timed swaying hips.

Mmmmm. Wii-U owners make for great parties.

#36 Posted by enzyme36 (1465 posts) -

Wii U owners dont buy old games we've played on other systems already.

#37 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (7174 posts) -

Assassin's Creed didn't sell last year? The version that lacked DLC support? You don't say?

Call of Duty isn't selling so great on Wii U either? You mean, the lack of Call of Duty Elite and DLC support didn't lure in consumers? Wow, blows my mind.

Most people who have a Wii U own another platform. Publishers are deluded if they believe those people will purchase a version that gives them less value.

#38 Edited by Mystery_Writer (7896 posts) -

He's right. I have a Wii U, don't see why I would buy a multi-platform game on an inferior console when I have a powerful PC.

Same thing I believe most hardcore console only gamers would treat Wii U multiplat games if they happen to have a PS4 / X1.

#39 Posted by dotWithShoes (4832 posts) -

@nintendoboy16 said:

@Micropixel said:

Last I checked, just dance didn't do any better on Wii U than AC.

But honestly, first party games are the sole reason anyone buys a Nintendo console to begin with. It's also the reason 3rd party companies like Ubisoft struggle with their libraries when competing with Nintendo's on a Nintendo console. A lot of games on the system are getting ignored because everyone who owns a Wii U is addicted to Mario Kart. The same thing will happen when Smash Bros hits. And then again when The Legend Of Zelda releases, and again when we finally see a Metroid game. This is a pattern we've been seeing since 1996 with the N64 almost 20 years ago.

If you're a 3rd party developer looking to break the cycle, you have to make something TRULY remarkable that can actually compete for attention from those games. And re-re-re-redundant Assasin's Creed is not the title to do it. Maybe not even Watch_Dogs. I'm not saying their games aren't good (I own most of them and love them), but there are a lot of Nintendo titles I'd play over most of theirs.

THAT is Ubisoft's real problem.

Even in the SNES era, Nintendo's (and Rare's) titles STILL lead the pack. It just seems to me that the only way Nintendo is to have any success with third parties is to go all Revolver Ocelot on MUCH of their big IP's (Mario, Zelda, their share on Pokemon). Of course, despite dying interest, that will be the last straw between Nintendo and their fans.

RARE (in their old N64 form) is a perfect example of the kind of caliber that 2nd and 3rd party developers need to be if they're going to work on a Nintendo platform. I think most people who played during that era would agree that RARE produced some of the very best games for that system (even better than most of Nintendo's) and essentially saved it from being a disaster.

You know RARE was owned by Nintendo. They were not third party, so saying they were better than Nintendo's is in effect, saying that RAREs games were better than the games made by RARE.

#40 Posted by ItsTheCaptain (6 posts) -

Well I only own a Wii U for the exclusives really. Any multiplatform game that I find intriguing will be bought for my PS4. I suppose that's how the majority of multi-system owners think.

#41 Edited by Gue1 (9491 posts) -

I think the issue here is that most Wii U owners have PS3/X360 or PS4/Xbone and if every version of the game costs $60 then they rather buy the best version with the superior online experience and graphics too.

#42 Posted by Wild_man_22 (579 posts) -

It's sad that this is the case. Maybe ubisoft will develop something unique for the system in the future.

He mentions party games, and honestly I'm ok with that as long as they are unique and well-made. But I'm sure to be in the minority on this. And given third parties history with games like that I know I shouldn't expect it at all.

I'd love it if someone could develop something like a new Dokapon Kingdom for Wii-U.

#43 Posted by osan0 (12619 posts) -

ubisoft are correct on this one.

this is another example of why nintendo should stop any further efforts to attract 3rd parties (or at least 3rd party multiplats). even if they managed to get the support (with features and performance at least as good as every other platform) the games would sell poorly. no one wins.

its a case of 3rd parties delivering poorer versions of a game (sometimes this is nintendos fault, sometimes not) to a segment of the market that is indifferent to said games. on the very rare occasion that i think i might get a wiiu version of a multiplat (i have a PC...why would i get a multiplat on the wiiu?) the first thing that pops into my head is "how will i get burned? whats the catch?". i would rather pay more for another version to be perfectly honest.

last gen half my wii games were 3rd party. all my wii games were wii exclsuive though.

i think any future relations nintendo have with big 3rd parites will have to be built around exclusive games and nintendo shouldering more of the risk.

other than that i dont see why nintendo should waste any more time on the matter. their customers dont want it (they usually have another platform to play these games on). the 3rd parties arent interested. nintendo is making no money by trying.

#44 Posted by Kjranu (915 posts) -

They're not missing much but AC3 on Wii U was pretty darn good.

#45 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (7174 posts) -

@Kjranu: And sold reasonably well considering the small install base. Ubisoft delivered the full package with full support and people bought it.

#46 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (24844 posts) -

@LegatoSkyheart: Slightly off topic, but you how Chinatown Wars happen to be in 2.5d? That might explain why it sold in mediocre numbers.

Yeah I know. I played it. It's actually the only GTA game that you can do drug deals freely if I recall.

#47 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6955 posts) -

If third parties would just release games better than Nintendo's games, then people would buy them.

#48 Posted by wiifan001 (18371 posts) -

Even if I had a Wii u, I'd get it on the pc because I know it would run on better hardware and also it would drop to $5 on steam in due time

#49 Posted by DJ-Lafleur (34138 posts) -

I don't want either Assassin's Creed or Just Dance...

#50 Posted by super600 (30275 posts) -

This is why nintendo needs to look at what types of third party games can be brought to the platform that will be guaranteed to sell okay or great instead of relying on all third party developers to produce games for them because some third parties developers/publishers may not do that well on the WiiU and nintendo's future platforms.They can still go after smaller japanese publishers like Platinum games.They kinda already did this with the sonic games. I still do think they should go after the cod games since those seemed to be somewhat successful on the Wii.