ubisoft: watchdogs ps4 looks like e3 2013 demo

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#51 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (4010 posts) -

So did we see the wii u version or what

they wouldnt even confirm if the wii u version was releasing in 2014. expect it to be cancelled

#52 Posted by clyde46 (45463 posts) -

@Harisemo said:

@clyde46 said:

@Harisemo said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@Harisemo said:

Mod bullshots, if you mod Watch Dogs on PC you'll get even better results.

None of those are bullshots. Just took ingame screenshots moron!

Can't see no HUD, obvious bullshots are obvious son. GTA IV first shot looks so bad and lol @ second pic, there are no NPCs, just empty roads with one detailed car and a few buildings. It's like using console tech demo's to make a point.

You can disable the HUD in most PC games you tool.

Show me those shots with HUD then. Are NPCs disabled in that GTA IV shot? Go ahead and enable them.

Why are you asking me this? I didn't take those shots.....

#53 Posted by LanceX2 (305 posts) -

its already been proven theres a downgrade. Ubi is full of crap. this is old

#54 Edited by Harisemo (4133 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@Harisemo said:

@clyde46 said:

You can disable the HUD in most PC games you tool.

Show me those shots with HUD then. Are NPCs disabled in that GTA IV shot? Go ahead and enable them.

Why are you asking me this? I didn't take those shots.....

So you just wanted to tell me you can disable HUD in games? ok.....

#55 Edited by Tessellation (8798 posts) -

so it will look downgraded like it did at e3? POS4 showing its weakness lulz.

#STAYMAD.

#56 Posted by Harisemo (4133 posts) -

so it will look downgraded like it did at e3? POS4 showing its weakness lulz.

#STAYMAD.

You expect it to look like maxed out PC version? E3 2012 = PC, E3 2013 = Slightly downgraded PS4 version. Happens with all multiplats.

#57 Edited by the_bi99man (11047 posts) -

@Harisemo said:

@clyde46 said:

@Harisemo said:

@clyde46 said:

You can disable the HUD in most PC games you tool.

Show me those shots with HUD then. Are NPCs disabled in that GTA IV shot? Go ahead and enable them.

Why are you asking me this? I didn't take those shots.....

So you just wanted to tell me you can disable HUD in games? ok.....

Yeah, because you were under the impression that the lack of HUD was proof that those were bullshots. And they're not. They're obviously modded, but not bullshots. Not even the best mods out there. I've seen skyrim look even better than those shots, while running 80+ fps. Because that's what PC gaming is all about. Being able to make your games look just as good as you want them to, and modifying them in other ways if you'd like (such as getting rid of annoying, unnecessary and intrusive HUD elements).

#58 Posted by the_bi99man (11047 posts) -

So, I haven't been following this game at all. Someone clarify, if possible, what's the deal with this gif, that was all over that thread the other day?

Does the game actually look like the second half of this gif, on PS4 and/or XB1? If so, what about the PC version? I ask because the difference shown in this gif is far more than just resolution and a couple effects. It looks like a different engine, and yes, definitely an entire generation apart, graphically. It is not even slight hyperbole to say that the second half of this gif looks like an early last-gen game. Like a Need for Speed game on the 360. The lighting is so bad it's funny. And also, as good as the first half looks, it's nothing that a decent mid-high end PC couldn't handle easily.

So yeah, is this gif actually made with real footage from a next gen console version of the game, and is the PC version capable as looking as good as the game used to, at higher settings?

#59 Posted by PSP107 (11881 posts) -

@PAL360 said:

The 2012 footage was clearly scripted, and probably not even in-engine. I think that car accident was too well done to be in real time!

Why people for stuff like this?

#60 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

I guess this means the Xbone version looks like this....

since they don't even bother mentioning it lol.

#61 Edited by Xaero_Gravity (8715 posts) -

I guess this means the Xbone version looks like this....

since they don't even bother mentioning it lol.

Lol that's just plain mean.

#62 Posted by cainetao11 (17016 posts) -

Reading this crying over graphics cracks me up. Then people vote overwhelmingly "gameplay" in a 'whats most important to you in a game' thread. If the game is enjoyable to play I'll buy it.

#63 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

@cainetao11: what about when the same game is released on two systems, but one version is cheaper to play while also being superior?

Ill answer that for you, you buy the PS4. This is what the mass audience is doing.

#64 Posted by cainetao11 (17016 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie: what about if the other console has the games you prefer, and features you value and make use of? I'll answer that for you. You buy the one that has the games you prefer and features you value and make use of.

#65 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4523 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie: what about if the other console has the games you prefer, and features you value and make use of? I'll answer that for you. You buy the one that has the games you prefer and features you value and make use of.

and what if two people are having a conversation that's nothing to do with me but I feel like quoting them?

I'll answer that for you.

I don't quote them.

#66 Posted by cainetao11 (17016 posts) -
#67 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4523 posts) -

@cainetao11: i'm just being silly. because you guys were both using that thing with 'i'll answer that for you'. and then i say that i don't quote people but its there in a quote box.

its just for lols.

#68 Posted by cainetao11 (17016 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur: nice. I love people like pinkie. In another thread he's telling me I got duped for buying an X1. As if I don't post here, read gaming news and was completely unaware of ps4's pluses on the X1. People like that can't wrap there little minds around the fact that I bought the console that has/had the games and features I wanted to play and use. If it was all about power and resolution to me, I'd have a high end rig.

#69 Posted by Gaming-Planet (13998 posts) -

Lies.

#70 Edited by Alcapello (827 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@CrownKingArthur: nice. I love people like pinkie. In another thread he's telling me I got duped for buying an X1. As if I don't post here, read gaming news and was completely unaware of ps4's pluses on the X1. People like that can't wrap there little minds around the fact that I bought the console that has/had the games and features I wanted to play and use. If it was all about power and resolution to me, I'd have a high end rig.

Can we get back on topic?

#71 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4523 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@CrownKingArthur: nice. I love people like pinkie. In another thread he's telling me I got duped for buying an X1. As if I don't post here, read gaming news and was completely unaware of ps4's pluses on the X1. People like that can't wrap there little minds around the fact that I bought the console that has/had the games and features I wanted to play and use. If it was all about power and resolution to me, I'd have a high end rig.

Can we get back on topic?

'we'

this is your first post in the thread?

#72 Posted by Alcapello (827 posts) -

@alcapello said:
@cainetao11 said:

@CrownKingArthur: nice. I love people like pinkie. In another thread he's telling me I got duped for buying an X1. As if I don't post here, read gaming news and was completely unaware of ps4's pluses on the X1. People like that can't wrap there little minds around the fact that I bought the console that has/had the games and features I wanted to play and use. If it was all about power and resolution to me, I'd have a high end rig.

Can we get back on topic?

'we'

this is your first post in the thread?

Yes and No, I've been following watchdogs for a while now, it looks like something I might want to play in the very near future. There are places for off topic discussions, after warning of course (this).

#73 Posted by Alcapello (827 posts) -

I guess this means the Xbone version looks like this....

since they don't even bother mentioning it lol.

Xbox1 versions will always look worse.

#74 Posted by l34052 (3133 posts) -

Personally i dont care what anyone else thinks im buyin the game regardless and intend to fully enjoy it on my ps4.

#75 Posted by PAL360 (26758 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@PAL360 said:

The 2012 footage was clearly scripted, and probably not even in-engine. I think that car accident was too well done to be in real time!

Why people for stuff like this?

What do you mean?

#76 Edited by TheGuardian03 (21609 posts) -

Watch Dogs would look like the E3 2012 if it was a PC/PS4/X1 game, but they announced a last gen version so they have to downgrade it, it has to look the same on all systems. pretty much like AC4 it looks about the same with some added effects and better frame rate and 1080p on PS4.

I still think it looks pretty good.

#79 Edited by kalipekona (2297 posts) -

I'm not seeing the downgrade. I just think the areas shown in the new trailer aren't as flattering overall as the previous footage we have seen. There was a downgrade from the initial E3 2012 showing on PC, but I don't see a downgrade between last year's PS4 footage and the new trailer. It still looks like a beautiful game to me.

There is a hell of a lot of compression in those screen captures but they're still clear enough to see that the game looks outstanding.

#80 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2444 posts) -

I'm not seeing the downgrade. I just think the areas shown in the new trailer aren't as flattering overall as the previous footage we have seen. There was a downgrade from the initial E3 2012 showing on PC, but I don't see a downgrade between last year's PS4 footage and the new trailer. It still looks like a beautiful game to me.

There is a hell of a lot of compression in those screen captures but they're still clear enough to see that the game looks outstanding.

Damn, she's fugly!

#81 Posted by Harisemo (4133 posts) -

@Harisemo said:

So you just wanted to tell me you can disable HUD in games? ok.....

Yeah, because you were under the impression that the lack of HUD was proof that those were bullshots. And they're not. They're obviously modded, but not bullshots. Not even the best mods out there. I've seen skyrim look even better than those shots, while running 80+ fps. Because that's what PC gaming is all about. Being able to make your games look just as good as you want them to, and modifying them in other ways if you'd like (such as getting rid of annoying, unnecessary and intrusive HUD elements).

Lack of HUD is a big factor in determining whether shot is bull or gameplay, there are other factors as well. Skyrim shots and the first GTA IV shot aren't that impressive to begin with and second GTA IV shot with icehancer mod is simply misleading and cherry picked. It's unfair to compare modded games to vanilla.

#82 Edited by kalipekona (2297 posts) -

@TheGuardian03 said:

Watch Dogs would look like the E3 2012 if it was a PC/PS4/X1 game, but they announced a last gen version so they have to downgrade it, it has to look the same on all systems. pretty much like AC4 it looks about the same with some added effects and better frame rate and 1080p on PS4.

I still think it looks pretty good.

It might look similar at a glance, but I can tell you for a fact that AC4 on my PC is one of the best looking games I have played while my girlfriend's PS3 copy looks like the last gen game that it is (albeit a very good-looking last gen game). Nearly every single graphical element of the game is reduced or missing in the last gen versions, and it makes a big difference.

I haven't seen a single cross-generation title that doesn't look significantly better on the current consoles and PC than it does on the last gen consoles. So devs most certainly are not aiming to make the games look the same on all platforms. Even between PS4 and XB1 we are seeing some noticeable differences.

If you think the PS3 or Xbox 360 can render visuals as good as we see in the recent trailer (see my screen captures) then you have another thing coming. It won't look like that on last gen consoles.

#83 Edited by hoyalawya (342 posts) -

Saw the trailer during Walking Dead last night. The footage looked underwhelming.

#84 Posted by TheGuardian03 (21609 posts) -

@kalipekona

The casual gamer doesn't care about the pc version, they will look at ps3 and ps4 or x360 and x1.

PS3 and 360 version of the game will be mising effects, frame rate issues and maybe even sub hd, most of them can't tell the difference or even ask "what the hell is 60 fps or 1080p?"

I am aware that ps3 and 360 versions won't look as good as ps4 and x1, but it will look similar just like AC4 unless you do a comparsion and see the difference which wasn't huge to begin with, just higher res, better textures here and there.

WD is made with last gen consles in mind, it has to be the same experince on all systems. or they would be ripping off ps3 and 360 owners who expect the same game.

#85 Posted by Heil68 (43625 posts) -

I guess we'll see when it's released.

#86 Edited by speedfog (3061 posts) -

Lol TC don't get your hopes up. After all the 2013 PS4 version was already a big downgrade haha.

#87 Posted by slaves (1179 posts) -

I really don't care what it looks like I'm just ready to play it. It seems like its going to be really fun

#88 Edited by jsmoke03 (12793 posts) -

everyone is complaining about the e3 2013 was a downgrade....but everyone knewt he 2012 reveal trailer was running on pc.next gen consoles werent even announced yet. c mon guys, stop being like pricks

#89 Edited by PSP107 (11881 posts) -

@PAL360 said:

@PSP107 said:

@PAL360 said:

The 2012 footage was clearly scripted, and probably not even in-engine. I think that car accident was too well done to be in real time!

Why people for stuff like this?

What do you mean?

I mean people get hyped by the 1st info/video and then the end product doesn't come out the way it seemed.

#90 Edited by kalipekona (2297 posts) -

@kalipekona

The casual gamer doesn't care about the pc version, they will look at ps3 and ps4 or x360 and x1.

PS3 and 360 version of the game will be mising effects, frame rate issues and maybe even sub hd, most of them can't tell the difference or even ask "what the hell is 60 fps or 1080p?"

I am aware that ps3 and 360 versions won't look as good as ps4 and x1, but it will look similar just like AC4 unless you do a comparsion and see the difference which wasn't huge to begin with, just higher res, better textures here and there.

WD is made with last gen consles in mind, it has to be the same experince on all systems. or they would be ripping off ps3 and 360 owners who expect the same game.

When one version has higher resolution textures, new kinds of effects, higher precision effects, smoother geometric detail, higher quality shadows, higher quality texture filtering, higher display resolution, higher quality ambient occlusion, far less texture and geometry pop-in, better shaders, better reflections, better alpha effects/particle systems/volumetric fog, much denser foliage and better foliage quality, superior dynamically animated foliage and cloth, a more accurate lighting system and a smoother framerate I'd say that results in a pretty big difference.

Those are the same kinds of differences that separate any new gen game from last gen games.

Do you really think that if you took Killzone Shadow Fall and Infamous Second Son and reduced all of the graphical elements I listed above that they wouldn't be able to run on PS3? Of course they would. They could have easily had last gen and current gen versions of those games, but they are supposed to drive adoption of the PS4 instead.

#91 Posted by the_bi99man (11047 posts) -

@jsmoke03 said:

everyone is complaining about the e3 2013 was a downgrade....but everyone knewt he 2012 reveal trailer was running on pc.next gen consoles werent even announced yet. c mon guys, stop being like pricks

The fact that the 2012 trailer was running on PC doesn't matter, considering that, knowing Ubisoft's reputation, we are about 100% guaranteed that the final PC version will be downgraded just as much, even though a good PC could easily run it the way it originally looked. Ubisoft will chop it down so that even at max settings, it doesn't look like the original reveal, and doesn't even push high end hardware. They've done exactly that with... just about every game they've ever developed (yes, the PC versions).

#92 Edited by Merex760 (4286 posts) -

There should be a requirement to say if the demo or any other promotional screenshot/video is running on PC and not console hardware. Running a demo on a PC to build up console player hype only to downgrade it months later needs to stop.