Ubisoft: Super Smash Bros. Will Revive The Wii U

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#1 Posted by charizard1605 (56101 posts) -

“Super Smash Bros. has some of the best moments that Nintendo has shared. I think that franchise could be magical for the Wii U,” they said to GamesIndustry.

“To be honest, we always want more consoles,” they continued. “Just Dance 2015 is resonating very well. We think it will please a lot of [existing] Wii U owners and push more families to buy extra Wii Us. But we also believe that Super Smash Bros. will be a trigger to increase the momentum of the Wii U at Christmas. As a gamer, I was playing [Super Smash Bros.] over ten years ago, and it has some of the best moments that Nintendo has shared. I think that franchise could be magical [for the Wii U].

“Nintendo has some of the best franchises in the world and it knows how to make great games. It proved that with Mario Kart, and it will prove that again with Super Smash.”

SOURCE

We'll see if it does. I want to believe that it will, but...

We'll see.

#2 Edited by PikachuDude860 (576 posts) -

Super Smash Bros. has the potential to surpass Mario Kart 8's performance. It comes out for Christmas/Black Friday. You know, when everybody and their mom is out buying games and stuff.

Don't underestimate what it could do for Wii U sales.

#3 Posted by MonsieurX (29579 posts) -

Well,it could be huge for Christmas

#4 Edited by SolidGame_basic (16895 posts) -

Too cut-throat for Nintendo to have equal footing this holiday. But I'll be getting a copy fo' show.

#5 Posted by super600 (30325 posts) -

With aiimbo it may happen, but it depends on how nintendo markets the console this holiday season.

#6 Edited by YearoftheSnake5 (7219 posts) -

And these new Wii U owners get to look forward to a plethora of new Ubisoft games as the generation continues! Like Just Dance and....uh....the next Just Dance!

#7 Posted by funsohng (27614 posts) -

I'm surprised Ubisoft know what Wii U is, let alone care about it.

#8 Posted by farrell2k (5811 posts) -

I wouldn't be surprised to see more than a million sales of the wiiu this holiday season with all the fantastic exclusives coming for it.

#9 Posted by DocSanchez (1568 posts) -

Still clinging on to hope. Every time Nintendo pulls out one of the big boys this happens. Only thing is this doesn't account for all the other issues.

People knew Smash Bros was coming two generations ago. Just like they knew Kart was coming, Mario 3D was coming. And it still didn't entice people to buy the console.

Beyond saving. In fact there is nothing to save.

#10 Posted by yokofox33 (29379 posts) -

I don't think it will revive the system entirely, but it will definitely bring some life to it. It's such a huge game so it will move some consoles for the holiday season.

#11 Posted by super600 (30325 posts) -

I wouldn't be surprised to see more than a million sales of the wiiu this holiday season with all the fantastic exclusives coming for it.

It sold more than a million last year worldwide during the holiday season last year. I think it sold around 1.5 million(it may have sold slightly less or higher than this) last year.It sold around 700000 in the US in november and december.

#12 Edited by nintendoboy16 (26283 posts) -

Okay, Ubisoft is sending mixed messages here.

#13 Edited by R3FURBISHED (10362 posts) -

I want to play Super Smash Bros, but it is not worth paying $300 for the 32GB edition plus the $60 for the game.

$200 for both is absolutely a reasonable price I believe

#14 Posted by drummerdave9099 (655 posts) -

We'll see, it depends on how well Nintendo markets the console, games, and amiibo this holiday

#15 Posted by nini200 (9615 posts) -

Lol Ubisoft

#16 Posted by wolverine4262 (19057 posts) -

I thought all the sheep were saying Mario Kart did that already.

#17 Edited by silversix_ (14085 posts) -

They want this to happen so their Just Dance or whatever casual crap sells on the system more than Ass Creed did.

#18 Posted by commonfate (12252 posts) -

Maybe. Project M will likely end up being the better game though.

#19 Posted by superbuuman (2691 posts) -

Ubi is flip flopping with their comments...though its worthless if they are only gonna stick to release Just Dance on Wii U. Smash will boost sales (maybe more than) like MK8. :P

#20 Posted by DocSanchez (1568 posts) -

What happened to my previous post on this one? I'm sure I posted it?

Anyway. Smash Bros is I see the latest game which will revive the fortunes of the Wii U, just like kart was, just like Mario 3D was. Except it wont. Because people have known from two generations ago that this game was coming to this console, and didn't buy one anyway. The wii u is past saving. There is nothing to save.

#21 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26283 posts) -

What happened to my previous post on this one? I'm sure I posted it?

Anyway. Smash Bros is I see the latest game which will revive the fortunes of the Wii U, just like kart was, just like Mario 3D was. Except it wont. Because people have known from two generations ago that this game was coming to this console, and didn't buy one anyway. The wii u is past saving. There is nothing to save.

Glitchspot if I had to guess...

#22 Posted by hiphops_savior (7858 posts) -

@YearoftheSnake5: Maybe if you ask nicely enough, Michel Ancel would develop another Rayman's platformer for the Wii U.

#23 Edited by Micropixel (865 posts) -

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Wii U is still riding high on Mario Kart's momentum from it's May 30th release to present. This was heavily reflected in last month's NPD report. And according to this, that momentum has been well sustained in Japan where the console is tripling PS4 sales with the recent release of Hyrule Warriors (which hits the western territories next month).

I don't think it's a matter of turning the system around anymore. I think it's about keeping the momentum going throughout the fall and holiday seasons. And there are games in that time frame that can certainly do it.

#24 Posted by Heirren (16584 posts) -

I'm not so sure. I don't understand the gamers of today. They complain and complain about the same games coming out over and over, yet they continue to buy these same games. Then they complain and complain about graphics yet stick with the console they've got.

#25 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26283 posts) -

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Wii U is still riding high on Mario Kart's momentum from it's May 30th release to present. This was heavily reflected in last month's NPD report. And according to this, that momentum has been well sustained in Japan where the console is tripling PS4 sales with the recent release of Hyrule Warriors (which hits the western territories next month).

I don't think it's a matter of turning the system around anymore. I think it's about keeping the momentum going throughout the fall and holiday seasons. And there are games in that time frame that can certainly do it.

Pretty much. The N64 and GameCube had their momentum stable. The former with Rare games (mainly Goldeneye), Mario Kart, Zelda, etc, while the GameCube had Melee.

#26 Posted by ZombeGoast (411 posts) -

While Nintendo is doing everything they can to make people by a Wii U and Smash, Ubisoft is doing absolutely nothing hoping their games will sell with no marketing .

#27 Posted by Kenny789 (10215 posts) -

It will be huge, no doubt. I'm just not sure it will be big enough to save the Wii U.

#28 Posted by Shielder7 (5152 posts) -

define revive, it may give it a spark like MK did, but it's not going bring it back from the dead.

#29 Posted by MBirdy88 (7754 posts) -

And these new Wii U owners get to look forward to a plethora of new Ubisoft games as the generation continues! Like Just Dance and....uh....the next Just Dance!

oh yay... lets all get excited for assassins cred 123123123123123123123 same gameplay edition.

or Watch Dogs... the crap Grand Theft Auto that is years behind.

or ... or FPS Cry 435345345345.

#30 Posted by jg4xchamp (47432 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

And these new Wii U owners get to look forward to a plethora of new Ubisoft games as the generation continues! Like Just Dance and....uh....the next Just Dance!

oh yay... lets all get excited for assassins cred 123123123123123123123 same gameplay edition.

or Watch Dogs... the crap Grand Theft Auto that is years behind.

or ... or FPS Cry 435345345345.

HEY!, weaponized Elephants is hilarious.

#31 Edited by Speak_Low (958 posts) -
@Micropixel said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Wii U is still riding high on Mario Kart's momentum from it's May 30th release to present. This was heavily reflected in last month's NPD report. And according to this, that momentum has been well sustained in Japan where the console is tripling PS4 sales with the recent release of Hyrule Warriors (which hits the western territories next month).

I don't think it's a matter of turning the system around anymore. I think it's about keeping the momentum going throughout the fall and holiday seasons. And there are games in that time frame that can certainly do it.

Micropixel, didn't I show you the NPD numbers in that other thread.

Wii U went up to 140k from Mario Kart 8 (good bump) but dropped to 80k the next month - the worst drop out of all three current gen consoles. Mario Kart 8 is supposed to be Nintendo Wii U's biggest and best-selling game, and should be moving a lot more consoles than PS4/X1 right now, which people constantly laugh at for having no games or remasters.

80k is what the Wii U was doing back in February 2014 NPD when Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze arrived late that month, and March NPD showed the Wii U netting 70k, even less with DK out for over a month. It appears the "Mario Kart 8 effect" is not what it was made out to be, and if this racing game has more widespread appeal than SSBU, than I don't see how SSBU can turn things around. If you're saying the combined power of MK8, Bayo 2, Hyrule Warriors and SSBU is what will make the difference, then why doesn't the combined power of the current MK8, SMW3D, Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, DK and all of those other current Wii U games do anything? That says something when people aren't rushing out to buy the Wii U and, literally, wait until the end for SSBU to finally pick up the Wii U, ignoring the console for so long. They must have some incredible discipline and ability to delay gratification and wait nearly TWO years to finally pick up a Wii U and SSBU. People said the sales would be better more than a year ago, so now they are saying that millions of consumers have changed their minds, and have decided to wait? So basically, people here really have no clue what is going on within the minds of consumers, and just guessing and delaying things more and more.

Also, the "turning point" is not really that close for the Wii U. The console is 3-4 million behind the GCN at the same time (just terrible), and nearly 9-10 million behind the N64. So I'm not sure what number people are looking for to call things a "turning point" and profit for Nintendo, when they are so behind and losing so much money. I guess they are satisfied seeing any article that shows a 222% or 666% increase, and feel that that is enough to be considered successful in the industry, and a "job well done" for Nintendo? ("and the haterz are proven wrong!")

Maybe SSBU will be great, but people keep adding to the Nintendo chalkboard and refusing to see some of the dire facts (and irreversible damages) surrounding Nintendo's situation. And to think, they start making predictions on where the no-game-having PS4/X1 will end up, when their Wii U predictions aren't even close!

#32 Edited by HernandeZzzz (158 posts) -

"Pikmin will save the Wii U!"

"Wonderful 101 will save the Wii U!"

"3D Mario will save the Wii U!"

"Mario Kart will save the Wii U!"

And now the latest: "Smash Bros will save the Wii U!"

Don't mean to be rude or anything, but it's getting pretty pathetic...

#33 Posted by ChristianGmr14 (155 posts) -

Personally I'm having a lot of fun with Windwaker HD on the Wii U, but I have no doubt that Smash will be a great addition to the system. Though I'm still getting the 3DS version as well.

#34 Posted by DocSanchez (1568 posts) -

@hernandezzzz: And next it will be "Bayonetta will save the Wii U!"

#35 Posted by big_mak523 (85 posts) -

@hernandezzzz: So are we just ignoring the impact Mario Kart 8 had or????
What does saving mean? and who the hell said Wonderful 101 would "save" the Wii U?? Or are we just making stuff up?
So many questions...

#36 Edited by HernandeZzzz (158 posts) -

@hernandezzzz: So are we just ignoring the impact Mario Kart 8 had or????

What does saving mean? and who the hell said Wonderful 101 would "save" the Wii U?? Or are we just making stuff up?

So many questions...

Technically speaking, "saving" would mean getting the console to hit its designated sales projections (the "real" ones, not the slashed forecasts). With that in mind, Mario Kart was a drop in the ocean.

As for who said Wonderful 101 would save the Wii U... I'm guessing the same idiots who are now saying that Smash Bros will do it. I hope you're not one of them.

#37 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3497 posts) -

Should help the Wii U quite a bit.

#38 Edited by ConanTheStoner (4833 posts) -

@hernandezzzz said:

"Pikmin will save the Wii U!"

"Wonderful 101 will save the Wii U!"

"3D Mario will save the Wii U!"

"Mario Kart will save the Wii U!"

And now the latest: "Smash Bros will save the Wii U!"

Don't mean to be rude or anything, but it's getting pretty pathetic...

Yup. I remember the same deal with the PS3 as well except the list of saviors was much longer and two of them never even released lol. About two years after launch MGS4 did become the turning point though. Then again, the PS3 wasn't in as dire a situation.

I'm just curious though, and every time I ask this I get no response. What exactly constitutes saving the Wii U? Does the sell through have to reach a certain number? If so, then what is that magic number that = saved?

I don't believe one game alone will ever make Wii Us fly off the shelves consistently (though Mario Kart did leave a mark), but the combination of good software over time will drive sales and make the Wii U a success for Nintendo. A hard earned success that hopefully they'll learn some lessons from, but a success none the less.

Edit: Btw, who said Pikmin or W101 would save the Wii U? lol

#39 Posted by big_mak523 (85 posts) -

@hernandezzzz: I dunno... I don' know what "saving" means.. I'm pretty sure the Wii U will be alright in the long run so I guess in my mind saving means not destroying Nintendo like some people were saying. Smash Bros is a system seller. Only an idiot would say otherwise. Mario Kart 8 is a game that sells more because of it's legs. There is an entire smash brothers community out there in the world waiting for this one game to come out to pick up the system.

That chalkboard means nothing to me. Mario Kart 8 has reversed the alot of the negative press surrounding nintendo, and it has made people aware that the Wii U even exists. Obviously the Wii U will not be the highest selling system this year, but if it does Gamecube numbers I don't see that as completely failing. That's just me though. Doubting Smash is not a wise thing to do. Especially if Nintendo managed to sell over a million last holiday with basically nothing. I'd imagine they are gonna do pretty well with Smash and Kart out for this holiday.

#40 Posted by Wiiboxstation (124 posts) -

WiiU is a great console and Nintendo is the best gaming company. The sales don't reflect it but morons will be morons.

#41 Edited by lamprey263 (23213 posts) -

well, they kind of have to say that since they have a financial stake in this licensing characters toward the roster

otherwise the company's position is to pull third party support for the console after they release Watch Dogs (if they release Watch Dogs), I'd personally prefer to see them release Zombie U 2 as their swan song to supporting Nintendo

but, I'd generally agree with that, not that I think sales will take off, but with each and every good title Nintendo ads to its library the more it'll slowly appeal to more and more gamers, things will improve, slowly, but I don't expect any kind of blastoff moment for Nintendo this gen

#42 Posted by big_mak523 (85 posts) -

well, they kind of have to say that since they have a financial stake in this licensing characters toward the roster

otherwise the company's position is to pull third party support for the console after they release Watch Dogs (if they release Watch Dogs), I'd personally prefer to see them release Zombie U 2 as their swan song to supporting Nintendo

but, I'd generally agree with that, not that I think sales will take off, but with each and every good title Nintendo ads to its library the more it'll slowly appeal to more and more gamers, things will improve, slowly, but I don't expect any kind of blastoff moment for Nintendo this gen

Which characters?

#43 Edited by Heil68 (43508 posts) -

From dead last this gen? Naw.

#44 Edited by lamprey263 (23213 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

well, they kind of have to say that since they have a financial stake in this licensing characters toward the roster

otherwise the company's position is to pull third party support for the console after they release Watch Dogs (if they release Watch Dogs), I'd personally prefer to see them release Zombie U 2 as their swan song to supporting Nintendo

but, I'd generally agree with that, not that I think sales will take off, but with each and every good title Nintendo ads to its library the more it'll slowly appeal to more and more gamers, things will improve, slowly, but I don't expect any kind of blastoff moment for Nintendo this gen

Which characters?

well, I thought Rayman was supposed to be a playable character **checking google**, well, that was an unconfirmed and denied rumor

#45 Edited by Micropixel (865 posts) -

@speak_low said:
@Micropixel said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Wii U is still riding high on Mario Kart's momentum from it's May 30th release to present. This was heavily reflected in last month's NPD report. And according to this, that momentum has been well sustained in Japan where the console is tripling PS4 sales with the recent release of Hyrule Warriors (which hits the western territories next month).

I don't think it's a matter of turning the system around anymore. I think it's about keeping the momentum going throughout the fall and holiday seasons. And there are games in that time frame that can certainly do it.

Micropixel, didn't I show you the NPD numbers in that other thread.

Wii U went up to 140k from Mario Kart 8 (good bump) but dropped to 80k the next month - the worst drop out of all three current gen consoles. Mario Kart 8 is supposed to be Nintendo Wii U's biggest and best-selling game, and should be moving a lot more consoles than PS4/X1 right now, which people constantly laugh at for having no games or remasters.

80k is what the Wii U was doing back in February 2014 NPD when Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze arrived late that month, and March NPD showed the Wii U netting 70k, even less with DK out for over a month. It appears the "Mario Kart 8 effect" is not what it was made out to be, and if this racing game has more widespread appeal than SSBU, than I don't see how SSBU can turn things around. If you're saying the combined power of MK8, Bayo 2, Hyrule Warriors and SSBU is what will make the difference, then why doesn't the combined power of the current MK8, SMW3D, Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, DK and all of those other current Wii U games do anything? That says something when people aren't rushing out to buy the Wii U and, literally, wait until the end for SSBU to finally pick up the Wii U, ignoring the console for so long. They must have some incredible discipline and ability to delay gratification and wait nearly TWO years to finally pick up a Wii U and SSBU. People said the sales would be better more than a year ago, so now they are saying that millions of consumers have changed their minds, and have decided to wait? So basically, people here really have no clue what is going on within the minds of consumers, and just guessing and delaying things more and more.

Also, the "turning point" is not really that close for the Wii U. The console is 3-4 million behind the GCN at the same time (just terrible), and nearly 9-10 million behind the N64. So I'm not sure what number people are looking for to call things a "turning point" and profit for Nintendo, when they are so behind and losing so much money. I guess they are satisfied seeing any article that shows a 222% or 666% increase, and feel that that is enough to be considered successful in the industry, and a "job well done" for Nintendo? ("and the haterz are proven wrong!")

Maybe SSBU will be great, but people keep adding to the Nintendo chalkboard and refusing to see some of the dire facts (and irreversible damages) surrounding Nintendo's situation. And to think, they start making predictions on where the no-game-having PS4/X1 will end up, when their Wii U predictions aren't even close!

First of all, it's not a profit for them. Nintendo lost $97 million last quarter but went on to sell 2.82 million copies of Mario Kart 8 in it's first month (which is outstanding).

The links I posted are the most recent and up to date from both NPD and Media Create and show a steady momentum over the past 2 and a half months. Maybe not as high as to your liking, but it's a definite improvement over what it's been. Whatever other time frame you're talking about is just that. Show me something that contradicts our latest NPD and Media Create reports and I'll agree with you. But drudging up old numbers, going by sheer speculation or comparing past generations where the markets and general economics were different for everyone isn't exactly giving your argument weight (not to be rude or anything).

#46 Posted by millerlight89 (18347 posts) -

It will sell a few systems, but it will not make it relevant as compared to the 2 main consoles. It will come and go like the other heavy hitters.

#47 Posted by locopatho (20186 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

And these new Wii U owners get to look forward to a plethora of new Ubisoft games as the generation continues! Like Just Dance and....uh....the next Just Dance!

oh yay... lets all get excited for assassins cred 123123123123123123123 same gameplay edition.

or Watch Dogs... the crap Grand Theft Auto that is years behind.

or ... or FPS Cry 435345345345.

HEY!, weaponized Elephants is hilarious.

Yeah it's very dumb to pick on Far Cry as rehashed or samey, there's only 4 (soon 5) of them and they've all added something new and different. Fire in 2, stealth and hunting in 3, batshit insanity in Blood Dragon, and now hellafumps :D

#48 Posted by MBirdy88 (7754 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

@MBirdy88 said:

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

And these new Wii U owners get to look forward to a plethora of new Ubisoft games as the generation continues! Like Just Dance and....uh....the next Just Dance!

oh yay... lets all get excited for assassins cred 123123123123123123123 same gameplay edition.

or Watch Dogs... the crap Grand Theft Auto that is years behind.

or ... or FPS Cry 435345345345.

HEY!, weaponized Elephants is hilarious.

Yeah it's very dumb to pick on Far Cry as rehashed or samey, there's only 4 (soon 5) of them and they've all added something new and different. Fire in 2, stealth and hunting in 3, batshit insanity in Blood Dragon, and now hellafumps :D

Hardly dumb.... repetitive sandbox shooters.

#49 Edited by locopatho (20186 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

Hardly dumb.... repetitive sandbox shooters.

Repetitive, when each sequel adds completely new gameplay elements? The last one added radioactive, lightning shooting dragons, and you're complaining? Nonsense. Just complaining because you like complaining.

#50 Edited by MBirdy88 (7754 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

Hardly dumb.... repetitive sandbox shooters.

Repetitive, when each sequel adds completely new gameplay elements? The last one added radioactive, lightning shooting dragons, and you're complaining? Nonsense. Just complaining because you like complaining.

I think you misunderstand the meaning of repetitive.... but believe what you will.