Ubisoft Absolutely Frightened of Backlash Against Watch Dogs

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#101 Edited by superclocked (5823 posts) -

@locopatho: The original footage was indeed running on PC. The downgrade has been confirmed to be the PS4 version. Unless they downgrade the PC version with console assets, then he's likely correct...

#102 Posted by darkangel115 (1410 posts) -

anyone remember this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TMNaYQfUUGM

#103 Edited by tonitorsi (8142 posts) -

This was so blown off out of damn proportion on Gaf.

I saw an italian preview posted on that thread that showcased the in-game graphics on a much grander fidelity and looks nothing like that shit ass Gif,

It looks very solid. I wish I could find the preview link but it was lost in all the crazy commotion.

And Gaf always literally exaggerates everything and anything for the hell of it.

#Relax

#104 Posted by locopatho (20044 posts) -

@locopatho: The original footage was indeed running on PC. The downgrade has been confirmed to be the PS4 version. Unless they downgrade the PC version with console assets, then he's likely correct...

The awesome footage was also seen on PS4. He's not correct he's just lying, for trollsies.

#105 Edited by Wasdie (49363 posts) -

They should be. They can't justify that massive downgrade. Clearly the assets and rendering quality have been decreased. The game will look absolutely nothing like the original demos they showed. Hell even towards the end of last year we saw a clear decrease in quality when they started showing off actual gameplay.

Pathetic Ubisoft.

#106 Edited by lamprey263 (22460 posts) -

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet. And I'm sure if it does well enough Ubisoft will be on top of annual sequels that will improve with time. Too early to pass judgment on the next gen systems as well as things will probably improve in the next couple years.

#107 Edited by locopatho (20044 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet.

Consoles settled for 720P from 2005 to 2013. That time is over. This is a more powerful, new gen. In theory anyway.

#108 Edited by tonitorsi (8142 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

They should be. They can't justify that massive downgrade. Clearly the assets and rendering quality have been decreased. The game will look absolutely nothing like the original demos they showed. Hell even towards the end of last year we saw a clear decrease in quality when they started showing off actual gameplay.

Pathetic Ubisoft.

Its Ubisoft. And their known to pull off wack ass downgrades. They as well, always do so with bullshots like no legitimate shits were given lol.

I for one am cool that their shady ways are getting dragged, but Gaf has a tendency to really overblown loads of nonsensical technicalities.

Therefore, giving credit where its due, There's this italian preview that demo'd a portion of the in-game graphics and from what I got out of it, it looks nothing like that used up Gif.

I am positive the game will provide lots of fun when its all said done.

#109 Posted by Jynxzor (9281 posts) -

Well then that was unexpected...

#110 Edited by blackace (19781 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

Downgrade confirmed?

Like Deep Down before it. At least Capcom and going to try and fix the problem.

It really does look like a PS2 game now. Just look at the car. Even GT6 cars looked better then that.

What's with all the damn FOG???

#111 Edited by Sushiglutton (5173 posts) -

I'm always sceptical when the entire internet uses the same pic/gif to prove a point. It smells reverse cherry picking to me. I don't think the perceived visuals will be anywhere near as bad as in that gif when you play the game on a next gen console/PC.

I think the core idea of "GTA with city-powers" is still so awesome that I'm gonna check it out regardless :)!

#112 Edited by Cyberdot (3510 posts) -

Then they really should stop falsely showing off footages that won't even represent the final build.

Quit the bullshit and show the real stuff that will happen in the real world. Not in your fantasy dreams. On PC, possibly. But not when fucking consoles are in the way.

#113 Posted by blackace (19781 posts) -

@superclocked said:

@locopatho: The original footage was indeed running on PC. The downgrade has been confirmed to be the PS4 version. Unless they downgrade the PC version with console assets, then he's likely correct...

The awesome footage was also seen on PS4. He's not correct he's just lying, for trollsies.

Yeah.. and it's a huge downgrade. It looks worse the MGS V:GZ on the XB1. These developers must have been running the games on suped up PC at the E3. They they tried to movie the game to PS4 and XB1 and they couldn't handle it. That's probably why there was a delay. They couldn't optimize the game to be where they wanted. The game looks like a 1st generation PS3 game now.

#114 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16139 posts) -

I'm always sceptical when the entire internet uses the same pic/gif to prove a point. It smells reverse cherry picking to me. I don't think the perceived visuals will be anywhere near as bad as in that gif when you play the game on a next gen console/PC.

I think the core idea of "GTA with city-powers" is still so awesome that I'm gonna check it out regardless :)!

Well, you don't need to look at that gif, it's just a representation of the downgrade.

Just look at the latest story trailer, it's a massive downgrade and looks almost like a PS3/360 game. In fact, many people still believe the footage was from PS3/360...

#115 Posted by HaloinventedFPS (4687 posts) -

Lol Ubisoft playing the victim

#116 Posted by cfisher2833 (1521 posts) -

Everyone knew the initial reveal was running off a decked out PC; downgrades for consoles were to be expected. Same thing will happen with Division--Ubisoft's whole "oh please beg for a PC port" was just PR bullshit done to generate hype; that game was running off a PC and everyone knew it.

#117 Edited by Sushiglutton (5173 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@Sushiglutton said:

I'm always sceptical when the entire internet uses the same pic/gif to prove a point. It smells reverse cherry picking to me. I don't think the perceived visuals will be anywhere near as bad as in that gif when you play the game on a next gen console/PC.

I think the core idea of "GTA with city-powers" is still so awesome that I'm gonna check it out regardless :)!

Well, you don't need to look at that gif, it's just a representation of the downgrade.

Just look at the latest story trailer, it's a massive downgrade and looks almost like a PS3/360 game. In fact, many people still believe the footage was from PS3/360...

I agree it's a clear downgrade (lots of footage supporting that claim). But that gif makes it look like a Ps2 game, which is just silly.

#118 Posted by PhazonBlazer (11385 posts) -

Don't worry about it Ubisoft, I'm sure the game will be the best openworld sandbox game since Assassin's Creed 3.

#119 Posted by silversix_ (13666 posts) -

Everyone knew the initial reveal was running off a decked out PC; downgrades for consoles were to be expected. Same thing will happen with Division--Ubisoft's whole "oh please beg for a PC port" was just PR bullshit done to generate hype; that game was running off a PC and everyone knew it.

that is not even a downgrade, this is a complete change of graphics like what Gearbox did with Alien. Its nowhere near the same now, like another engine or something

#120 Posted by misterpmedia (3362 posts) -

lil gem from Mister X's blog bahahaha

one last attempt.

parasite76

2014-03-06 04:30 pm (UTC)

Guys you aren't going to like this but my source's have told me there is a huge push to make watchdogs inferior on Xbox one to take the momentum building going into e3 away. Look for resolution gate to be a big part. Ubisoft from the pressure of Sony will not convert the ddevelopment over to take advantage of new ask. My source also told me the game is a rehash AC anyway.

#121 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6630 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet.

Consoles settled for 720P from 2005 to 2013. That time is over. This is a more powerful, new gen. In theory anyway.

You can't spell settle without a few of the letters in "console".

#122 Posted by kinectthedots (1508 posts) -

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet. And I'm sure if it does well enough Ubisoft will be on top of annual sequels that will improve with time. Too early to pass judgment on the next gen systems as well as things will probably improve in the next couple years.

No need, visit my new Infamous gif thred I created on the reason why Dem_next_gen_graphic_is_here

#123 Posted by locopatho (20044 posts) -

@locopatho said:

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet.

Consoles settled for 720P from 2005 to 2013. That time is over. This is a more powerful, new gen. In theory anyway.

You can't spell settle without a few of the letters in "console".

It wasn't exactly settling in 2005, the gen was just a bit too long. Anyway it's 1080P time, anything less than that need not apply.

#124 Edited by lamprey263 (22460 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet.

Consoles settled for 720P from 2005 to 2013. That time is over. This is a more powerful, new gen. In theory anyway.

But why does graphics have to settle on resolution when they can enhance the visual effects with that extra power instead.

#125 Posted by charizard1605 (54513 posts) -

@locopatho said:

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet.

Consoles settled for 720P from 2005 to 2013. That time is over. This is a more powerful, new gen. In theory anyway.

You can't spell settle without a few of the letters in "console".

I see 's' and 'e' and 'l'!

You're right!

#126 Posted by lamprey263 (22460 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet. And I'm sure if it does well enough Ubisoft will be on top of annual sequels that will improve with time. Too early to pass judgment on the next gen systems as well as things will probably improve in the next couple years.

No need, visit my new Infamous gif thred I created on the reason why Dem_next_gen_graphic_is_here

I've seen enough of it, pretty impressive show of the PS4's potential, though the gameplay doesn't look that appealing to me.

#127 Posted by blackace (19781 posts) -

lil gem from Mister X's blog bahahaha

one last attempt.

parasite76

2014-03-06 04:30 pm (UTC)

Guys you aren't going to like this but my source's have told me there is a huge push to make watchdogs inferior on Xbox one to take the momentum building going into e3 away. Look for resolution gate to be a big part. Ubisoft from the pressure of Sony will not convert the ddevelopment over to take advantage of new ask. My source also told me the game is a rehash AC anyway.

Well the video being shown is for the PS4 version. So... not sure what Mister X is talking about. Both versions will have a huge downgrade from the video Ubisoft as released. Both versions are inferior. Now we know why the game was able to do 1080P, 960P. The whole graphic engine was downgraded to allow it. Now we know why the game was delayed.

Developers haven't gotten a full grasp on the hardware yet it seems.

#128 Edited by misterpmedia (3362 posts) -

@blackace said:

@misterpmedia said:

lil gem from Mister X's blog bahahaha

one last attempt.

parasite76

2014-03-06 04:30 pm (UTC)

Guys you aren't going to like this but my source's have told me there is a huge push to make watchdogs inferior on Xbox one to take the momentum building going into e3 away. Look for resolution gate to be a big part. Ubisoft from the pressure of Sony will not convert the ddevelopment over to take advantage of new ask. My source also told me the game is a rehash AC anyway.

Well the video being shown is for the PS4 version. So... not sure what Mister X is talking about. Both versions will have a huge downgrade from the video Ubisoft as released. Both versions are inferior. Now we know why the game was able to do 1080P, 960P. The whole graphic engine was downgraded to allow it. Now we know why the game was delayed.

Developers haven't gotten a full grasp on the hardware yet it seems.

Agree. In general the downgrade is a bit insulting to those who've waited and probably pre-ordered on 2013 footage. Must have been going through dev hell at this point.

#129 Posted by KarateeeChop (4590 posts) -

damn, the ps4 version got downgraded really hard. :(

#130 Edited by locopatho (20044 posts) -

@locopatho said:

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet.

Consoles settled for 720P from 2005 to 2013. That time is over. This is a more powerful, new gen. In theory anyway.

But why does graphics have to settle on resolution when they can enhance the visual effects with that extra power instead.

Because they can have both. I know more res = less fancy graphics, but they should be able to manage prettier graphics AND 1080P. Otherwise what's the point of the new consoles? GTAV just showed us that we could have awesome open world graphics @720P. If that's all next gen is providing (and Watchdogs looks worse than GTAV right now) then what is the point of a new gen?

#131 Posted by superbuuman (2535 posts) -

If PC can produce image like that, why downgrade PC version tho?..I mean at least let those who purchase them expensive gfx cards get enjoyment out of them...fuck this uniformity experience crap. :P

#132 Edited by blackace (19781 posts) -

@KarateeeChop said:

damn, the ps4 version got downgraded really hard. :(

I'm glad I waited and didn't pre-order. I wondering what The Division is going to look like.

Here's what Watch Dogs originally looked like.

http://www.abload.de/img/watch_dog-50uu0c.gif

http://i.minus.com/ibcUynCutGtfED.gif

#133 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3672 posts) -

Hopefully its not as bad as this...

#134 Posted by pelvist (4478 posts) -

I think they probably over estimated what the next gen consoles where actually capable of delivering with the original footage they showed off. Lets hope that the game just turns out to be good and that the PC version hasnt been compromised by this console gutting its received.

#135 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (12849 posts) -

lil gem from Mister X's blog bahahaha

one last attempt.

parasite76

2014-03-06 04:30 pm (UTC)

Guys you aren't going to like this but my source's have told me there is a huge push to make watchdogs inferior on Xbox one to take the momentum building going into e3 away. Look for resolution gate to be a big part. Ubisoft from the pressure of Sony will not convert the ddevelopment over to take advantage of new ask. My source also told me the game is a rehash AC anyway.

lmfao, that preemptive damage control. Atleast MS has a dedicated Nurse for all it's boo boo's.

#136 Posted by g0ddyX (3874 posts) -

Bad trend for developers glorifying PC tech demo, engines and games for console use.
Either way, the gameplay is not compromised. So those "gameplay over graphics" lovers have nothing to worry about.

Am guessing cross gen is not always the right way for some. It sure does look different from the original E3 build.

#137 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

it's time to see the light. it's time to see infamous

#138 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22319 posts) -

I get the feeling this game is gonna be a huge disappointment like AC3

#139 Edited by locopatho (20044 posts) -

I get the feeling this game is gonna be a huge disappointment like AC3

That game really did suck.

#140 Edited by delta3074 (17619 posts) -

Wow, worst downgrade ever,lol

#141 Edited by kinectthedots (1508 posts) -

@kinectthedots said:

@lamprey263 said:

If the gameplay is solid I don't see why people are complaining. If people want something graphically more impressive then maybe they should settle for a 720p or lower version that can either support a higher framerate and/or better visual effects. If people still aren't satisfied then get a PC. It's too early to pass judgment on the game as of yet. And I'm sure if it does well enough Ubisoft will be on top of annual sequels that will improve with time. Too early to pass judgment on the next gen systems as well as things will probably improve in the next couple years.

No need, visit my new Infamous gif thred I created on the reason why Dem_next_gen_graphic_is_here

I've seen enough of it, pretty impressive show of the PS4's potential, though the gameplay doesn't look that appealing to me.

then you need to come look at the thread if you haven't before. It shows new gameplay and it looks awsome, seeing is believeing.

#142 Posted by LanceX2 (305 posts) -

they should be. it looks ALOT worse

#143 Posted by mariokart64fan (19348 posts) -

LMAO WIIU LOOKS WAY BETTER THEN THAT INFACT DRIVER PARALELL LINES LOOKS BETTER THEN THAT

#144 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38170 posts) -

I get the feeling this game is gonna be a huge disappointment like AC3

Been feeling that way myself for a long time about it

#145 Posted by 35cent (877 posts) -

That can't be final graphics on the next gen consoles. That barely looks better than Need for Speed: Underground 2 from 2004....

#146 Edited by Locutus_Picard (3976 posts) -

#147 Posted by handssss (1654 posts) -

Xbox One footage, it's time to unleash dGPU. ;)

those are PS button prompts.

#148 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (12849 posts) -

@Locutus_Picard said:

Xbox One footage, it's time to unleash dGPU. ;)

What the fuck that looks like Tony Hawk's pro skater 3.

#149 Posted by Master_ShakeXXX (13361 posts) -

Ubisoft is just incredibly lazy. There is no excuse for why they couldn't achieve something that looks fairly similar to that first Watch Dogs video from 2012. Hell, InFamous SS looks almost as good as what was shown in that video and it's on PS4. Ubi deserves every ounce of hate coming their way. I wish people could file lawsuits against this bullshit.

#150 Posted by Zassimick (6167 posts) -

The graphics? Eh, there have been better but if the gameplay is good it won't matter.

I'm happy that people are in an uproar about it. If this really is how bad things have gotten with the game, then people have a right to be. Ubisoft often shows the games looking amazing, only to have a visual downgrade hit hard. With the consoles we have today there is no reason to be doing this; for the most part games look great!