U$400 PC vs PS4 in Assassins Creed IV

before someone asks about cost of windows licence, according to M$ 90% of their income comes from business users and in most countries 95% of instaled windows are not legal, why? because nobody pays the absurd full price for a windows licence, people get student discounts, use old PC windows disk, get windows installed in cheap prebuilt PCs or simply download it, so the windows licence cost argument is irrelevant, since according to Microsoft nobody does it

$400 doesn't have to include the OS. When you compare games on the XB720 and the PS4 you compare the hardware capabilities between the two. Only butthurt console kiddies worry about the OS when comparing hardware specs. Strip out the OS from the PS4 and the XB1 and $400 PC hardware still outperforms both consoles. Install Linux for free on the PC and compare Trine 2 on all 3 consoles and the $400 PC will still outperform both. The OS excuse if null and void. Give it up already.

Another butthurt console kiddie excuse. There are more games available for Linux than both next gen consoles combined.

$400 doesn't have to include the OS. When you compare games on the XB720 and the PS4 you compare the hardware capabilities between the two. Only butthurt console kiddies worry about the OS when comparing hardware specs. Strip out the OS from the PS4 and the XB1 and $400 PC hardware still outperforms both consoles. Install Linux for free on the PC and compare Trine 2 on all 3 consoles and the $400 PC will still outperform both. The OS excuse if null and void. Give it up already.

$400 doesn't have to include the OS. When you compare games on the XB720 and the PS4 you compare the hardware capabilities between the two. Only butthurt console kiddies worry about the OS when comparing hardware specs. Strip out the OS from the PS4 and the XB1 and $400 PC hardware still outperforms both consoles. Install Linux for free on the PC and compare Trine 2 on all 3 consoles and the $400 PC will still outperform both. The OS excuse if null and void. Give it up already.

again, this is not a console bashing tread

if youre a happy console gamer you should stick to the PS4, its has great value and is by far the better option

but if you are a PC gamer needing a upgrade or a console gamer thinking about making the transition to PC you can start with this machine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvmRShzvsfs

the intention here is to show the cost of equivalent gaming experience to the consoles, with PC hardware

before someone asks about cost of windows licence, according to M$ 90% of their income comes from business users and in most countries 95% of instaled windows are not legal, why? because nobody pays the absurd full price for a windows licence, people get student discounts, use old PC windows disk, get windows installed in cheap prebuilt PCs or simply download it, so the windows licence cost argument is irrelevant, since according to Microsoft nobody does it

to record 1080p 60fps videos the GTX660 is a better option for now because of Shadowplay, AMD's loss less video recording software is expected soon, apparentely HD7000

series also has build in h.264 encoders

price of PC parts went down in late november and up in late december, if you cant find all the parts for U$400 today, just wait a few days

here is a little better PC (i5 cpu) with a litle better results than mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljEL48vNhJY

this guy has slightly better cpu and a litle inferior gpu (7850) and his results confirm mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo

Another butthurt console kiddie excuse. There are more games available for Linux than both next gen consoles combined. Again, it also means nothing when comparing hardware.

$400 doesn't have to include the OS. When you compare games on the XB720 and the PS4 you compare the hardware capabilities between the two. Only butthurt console kiddies worry about the OS when comparing hardware specs. Strip out the OS from the PS4 and the XB1 and $400 PC hardware still outperforms both consoles. Install Linux for free on the PC and compare Trine 2 on all 3 consoles and the $400 PC will still outperform both. The OS excuse if null and void. Give it up already.

Got a link for that? I'm calling bullshit.

Even if true and some people use a illegal copy it's a meaningless argument.

By that logic you can say I bought a stolen PS4 down the pub for £50.00 so it's cheaper.

http://kluwercompetitionlawblog.com/2012/12/17/microsoft-is-facing-excessive-pricing-accusations-in-china/

http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Microsoft_(MSFT)

Not sure why you are attacking the poster. I'm guessing because you can't attack the argument?

The thread is called "U$400 PC vs PS4 in Assassins Creed IV" So it's quite important that the PC in question can play AC4.

yes my PC can, i havent stolen nothing from anyone, if someone have something that i stole please tell me and i will give it back to you in double

student windows licences are between 15-30 dollars, i bet all console fanboys calling wndows cost here are using a windows to post those coments and havent payed full price for this OS

Complains about no OS cost.

Doesn't include $300-400 worth of online PSN payments of one gen, or controller cost, or more expensive games cost.

http://kluwercompetitionlawblog.com/2012/12/17/microsoft-is-facing-excessive-pricing-accusations-in-china/

http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Microsoft_(MSFT)

Oh? I can assure you that the 7870 in that $406 build in the first video absolutely destroys the PS4, but I suspect you already know that. Not everyone pays full price for Windows. My $100 copy of Windows 7 bought when it first released has been used on 5 PCs already, and I will be able to keep using it as long as it is installed on only one machine. My cost for Windows on my new PC is therefore only $20., still less expensive than a PS4 and one year PS+. This is of course only because I chose to not run Linux, which also still has more games available for it than both next gen consoles combined. The console kiddie butthurt excuses are all falling apart. You guys will just have to accept that $400 PC hardware can outperform both consoles. If you guys get so butthurt about this now, what are you going to do in 6 months when pc hardware prices drop even more while the PS4 stays the same price?

yes my PC can, i havent stolen nothing from anyone, if someone have something that i stole please tell me and i will give it back to you in double

student windows licences are between 15-30 dollars, i bet all console fanboys calling wndows cost here are using a windows to post those coments and havent payed full price for this OS

The 7870 doesn't destroy the PS4 you stupid moron,the PS4 has a 7870...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

It has 2 CU disable for yields but it is a 7870,that card will pull some frames ahead of the PS4 nothing more nothing less...

The PS4 is $399 most people buy a PC already complete few do so by parts,this is another fact a $400 PC will not play BF4 period like the PS4,the only one with kiddy arguments is you,but but OS don't count because it serve me best..

Hell the thread you did you even let the CPU fan out of the fu**ing estimate what CPU runs without fan on PC to now.?

Thread maker and you are the same account lol...

I think you posted the wrong links. One is about monopoly rules in China and the other is a overview for MS. Not seeing anything about 95% of all non business windows are illegal.

Also taken from the second link in which you counter your own argument.

Microsoft’s products and service offerings fall into five divisions or business sectors:

Client (28% of revenue and 45% of net income in FY2009:

Business (32% of revenue and 42% of net income in FY2009

That's not 90% from Business.

The 7870 doesn't destroy the PS4 you stupid moron,the PS4 has a 7870...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

It has 2 CU disable for yields but it is a 7870,that card will pull some frames ahead of the PS4 nothing more nothing less...

The PS4 is $399 most people buy a PC already complete few do so by parts,this is another fact a $400 PC will not play BF4 period like the PS4,the only one with kiddy arguments is you,but but OS don't count because it serve me best..

Hell the thread you did you even let the CPU fan out of the fu**ing estimate what CPU runs without fan on PC to now.?

Thread maker and you are the same account lol...

hey console noob, CPUs come with fans, graphics cars come with fans, PSUs come with fans

its a much better heat dissipation than any console, there will never be a red ring of death on PC

U$400 PC plays bf4 better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO0daBZeRo

@leandrro: I pay for my software, the cost of Windows is not free, nor irrelevant. This attitude that stealing software being ok is one of the few things that pisses me off. People worked to create the software, if you want it ****ing pay for it.

Again, he already had the OS, bought a student license or something. The OS argument is null and void. Repeating it over and over won't make it any less invalid.

1 PC at a time. It doesn't matter if everyone has access to it at that price. He does, thus his $400 Windows PC still outperforms the PS4. Not everyone has access to newegg to get these parts at this price either...

Everyone can get a PS4 for 400$

Not everyone can get a PC with OS for 400$

still everybody with a U$400 PC has windows on it, i guess we should send 90% of worlds population (including 90% of this forum users) to jail for stealing or ilegaly abusing M$ products

still everybody with a U$400 PC has windows on it, i guess we should send 90% of worlds population (including 90% of this forum users) to jail for stealing or ilegaly abusing M$ products

Still failed to provide proof of that 90% piracy

http://www.neowin.net/news/ballmer-9-out-of-10-copies-of-windows-in-china-is-pirated

its china

you can expect less piracy in US and europe (15% of worlds population) and even more piracy in south america, africa, middle east, southeast asia, central america...

The PS4 GPU beats a 7850 by about 5%, but doesn't hit the performance of the 7870.

Is this what this is all about? Do all console kiddies think that the PS4 GPU is as powerful as a 7870? I have e feeling that they do, which would explain their confusion.

So in others words stealing things is cheaper than buying them? Who would have guessed...

Whats funny is that el tormentos claims a 600 GFLOP difference between the X1 and PS4 and claims 50% performance difference but when there is more a 600 GFLOP difference between the PS4 gpu and 7870 their equal..... when in fact there is basically a 30% difference.

$400 doesn't have to include the OS. When you compare games on the XB720 and the PS4 you compare the hardware capabilities between the two. Only butthurt console kiddies worry about the OS when comparing hardware specs. Strip out the OS from the PS4 and the XB1 and $400 PC hardware still outperforms both consoles. Install Linux for free on the PC and compare Trine 2 on all 3 consoles and the $400 PC will still outperform both. The OS excuse if null and void. Give it up already.

Stop. It's not "stealing", it's copyright infringement. They are two different crimes that are handled differently in a court of law.