U$400 PC beats PS4 in Need for Speed Rivals (very unfair)

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#1  Edited By leandrro
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHbOfxWvX1w

U$400 PC beats PS4

total of U$406 with keyboard and mouse + original windows 7 copy included

PS4 and U$400 PC both run in 1080p 30fps

HD7870 2gb

athlon ii x4 740 (also can use 750k, phenom ii 850, athlon x4 640, intel i3, a8-3800 apu or higher)

2x 2gb 1333 ram

corsair 430W PSU (only 300W needed)

am3+ motherboard (or any cheap 40 dollars mobo that fits your cpu's socket)

10 dollars case

cheap HDD

total= U$360,92

PS4 accessories price:

keyboard and mouse = no way, stick with aim assist

Aditional wireless PS4 gamepad = U$60

PS4 OS price = PS4 dont have a proper OS and cant do nothing the PS4 developers dont want you to do, like play older games, run emulators, properly edit videos, or test a game before deciding to purchase it

PC Accessories price:

keyboard and mouse U$16 (play from chair) total

wireless kb and mouse U$25 (play from couch) total

Aditional wireless PC gamepad = U$13

Wireless LAN = U$12

DVD drive = not necessary

OS price? = http://www.ebay.com/sch/Operating-Systems-/11226/i.html?_from=R40&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15&Brand=Microsoft&_nkw=WINDOWS+7&_dcat=11226&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=1000

my PC specs

http://imgur.com/SF1mi9I

"Why?? How can it be?!?!?!?!?!?!?, How can this U$400 PC beat PS$?"

check some details here

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/171375-reverse-engineered-ps4-apu-reveals-the-consoles-real-cpu-and-gpu-specs

PS4 18 shader cores @800mhz vs PC 20 shader cores @1050mhz

PS4 8 jaguar tablet cores (2 reserved for OS) vs PC quad core cpu 95% avaliable for games

PS4 8gb ram 3 for OS 5 for games vs PC 4gb ram 3 for games + 2gb Vram for games

PS4 1,84 teraflops vs PC 2,56 teraflops

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#2  Edited By psymon100
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smells that the game locks at 30fps on PC.

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#3 Mr-Kutaragi
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lmao selfown.

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#4 EndlessInfinity
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PS4 and Xbone version look very similar from what I seen but I'm surprised the pc version looks better from your video was thinking they were similar.

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#5 Muffin2020
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Why would you buy a PC to just be as good as a launch day PS4 game? If you're going to do it then do it properly and get something that going to last a few years.

If someone went out and bought that PC then I'd feel sorry for them.

It might run NFS as well as a PS4 since it's a shit port for both systmens but come a year or two you'd have bought a piece of crap PC which will not be compatible with the upgrades you'll need to get it up to spec.

Not to sure about your operating system link as well looks like a bootleg program that's tricking a new PC into accepting an old serial number. MS are to good at closing those loopholes.

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#7  Edited By OneLazyAsian
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I will take your word for it but you have no price breakdown so how am I suppose to know if that is >$400?

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#8  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

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#9 asylumni
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Umm, those recovery disks are fairly build specific. So unless those parts just happen to be the same as the ones in the system the disks were made to recover, you'll have to download each driver from the manufacturer web site (which is particularly difficult without an Ethernet driver). Plus there's no key, so windows severely limits usability after a week. And that's after you figure out a way to get the computer to read a dvd without a dvd drive...

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@TorqueHappens08 said:

10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

pfft who needs a case

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#11 Heil68
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@TorqueHappens08 said:

10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

LOL

TC self owned.

and I buy consoles for exclusives first and foremost.

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#12 psymon100
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@asylumni said:

Umm, those recovery disks are fairly build specific. So unless those parts just happen to be the same as the ones in the system the disks were made to recover, you'll have to download each driver from the manufacturer web site (which is particularly difficult without an Ethernet driver). Plus there's no key, so windows severely limits usability after a week. And that's after you figure out a way to get the computer to read a dvd without a dvd drive...

i normally use a 2nd pc to download all the drivers while windows installs, then grab a usb stick to transfer these installers across to the freshly installed windows partition, and then I install them.

On computers without an optical drive I install from a bootable USB. Optical drives are valueless to me anyway.

but yes your points are valid. a genuine windows, and an optical drive would make the whole process a lot more slick.

also, despite my placing zero value on blu ray, this computer cannot play blu ray whereas ps4 and xb1 can.

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#13 Heil68
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What a joke for O/S too. No COA (Product code key), just the refurbish PC disc (1 copies in original plastic casing)

Fucking joke...lol

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#14  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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@wis3boi said:

@TorqueHappens08 said:

10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

pfft who needs a case

Get on my level.

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#15  Edited By the_bi99man
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@psymon100 said:

smells that the game locks at 30fps on PC.

Apparently it does. Which is so damn funny it's sad. **** EA. Seriously. **** EA.

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@wis3boi said:

@TorqueHappens08 said:

10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

pfft who needs a case

Is that system housed inside the desk?

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#17  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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**** it, Gives a whole new meaning to desk top that's for sure.

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#18 Lief_Ericson
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That is glorious.

@wis3boi said:

@TorqueHappens08 said:

10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

pfft who needs a case

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@Lief_Ericson said:

That is glorious.

@wis3boi said:

@TorqueHappens08 said:

10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

pfft who needs a case

Nope.

Say hellow to

PCPS360

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#20 the_bi99man
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@TorqueHappens08 said:

Nope.

Say hellow to

PCPS360

Although I'm having a hard time telling, just by looking at it, I'm guessing based on "PCPS360" that this PC has a PS3 and/or X360 built into it. If so, then I reiterate:

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#21 Chutebox
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"total of U$406 with keyboard and mouse + original windows 7 copy included"

So not 400 then.

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#22  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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@the_bi99man said:

@TorqueHappens08 said:

Nope.

Say hellow to

PCPS360

Although I'm having a hard time telling, just by looking at it, I'm guessing based on "PCPS360" that this PC has a PS3 and/or X360 built into it. If so, then I reiterate:

yep your "and" is correct. i'd like a PCPS4ONE

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#23 the_bi99man
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@Chutebox said:

"total of U$406 with keyboard and mouse + original windows 7 copy included"

So not 400 then.

$400 and a sandwich.

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#24 TorqueHappens08
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I think it's more powerful on paper TC

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#25 bobbetybob
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@TorqueHappens08 said:

@wis3boi said:

@TorqueHappens08 said:

10$ case? might aswell build one out of heat carboard

pfft who needs a case

Get on my level.

Needs more watercooling:

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#26 -Unreal-
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But I'm too STOOPID to work one of those PC things!

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#27 Pray_to_me
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dont forget the cost of labor to build that pos, and the cost of the fire extinguisher to put that shit out when it lights on fire lmfao

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#28 wis3boi
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@Pray_to_me said:

dont forget the cost of labor to build that pos, and the cost of the fire extinguisher to put that shit out when it lights on fire lmfao

I guess if you have the intellect of a potato

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#29  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@wis3boi said:

@Pray_to_me said:

dont forget the cost of labor to build that pos, and the cost of the fire extinguisher to put that shit out when it lights on fire lmfao

I guess if you have the intellect of a potato

Well, if you check his avatar, he does look like a potato

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#30 tormentos
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I see no link for prices here so yeah i am going to go with bullsh** here.

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#31  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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By the way, there is already a fix to remove that 30fps cap on PC

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#32 leandrro
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@muffin2020 said:

Why would you buy a PC to just be as good as a launch day PS4 game? If you're going to do it then do it properly and get something that going to last a few years.

If someone went out and bought that PC then I'd feel sorry for them.

It might run NFS as well as a PS4 since it's a shit port for both systmens but come a year or two you'd have bought a piece of crap PC which will not be compatible with the upgrades you'll need to get it up to spec.

Not to sure about your operating system link as well looks like a bootleg program that's tricking a new PC into accepting an old serial number. MS are to good at closing those loopholes.

BS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abGW1bk1nmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmTcm5vojY

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#33  Edited By leandrro
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@OneLazyAsian: there is a link on the video to my budget details

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#34  Edited By Butcer2
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@leandrro said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHbOfxWvX1w

U$400 PC beats PS4

total of U$406 with keyboard and mouse + original windows 7 copy included

PS4 and U$400 PC both run in 1080p 30fps

HD7870 2gb

athlon ii x4 740 (also can use 750k, phenom ii 850, athlon x4 640, intel i3, a8-3800 apu or higher)

2x 2gb 1333 ram

corsair 430W PSU (only 300W needed)

am3+ motherboard (or any cheap 40 dollars mobo that fits your cpu's socket)

10 dollars case

cheap HDD

total= U$360,92

PS4 accessories price:

keyboard and mouse = no way, stick with aim assist

Aditional wireless PS4 gamepad = U$60

PS4 OS price = PS4 dont have a proper OS and cant do nothing the PS4 developers dont want you to do, like play older games, run emulators, properly edit videos, or test a game before deciding to purchase it

PC Accessories price:

keyboard and mouse U$16 (play from chair) total

wireless kb and mouse U$25 (play from couch) total

Aditional wireless PC gamepad = U$13

Wireless LAN = U$12

DVD drive = not necessary

OS price? = http://www.ebay.com/sch/Operating-Systems-/11226/i.html?_from=R40&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15&Brand=Microsoft&_nkw=WINDOWS+7&_dcat=11226&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=1000

my PC specs

http://imgur.com/SF1mi9I

"Why?? How can it be?!?!?!?!?!?!?, How can this U$400 PC beat PS$?"

check some details here

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/171375-reverse-engineered-ps4-apu-reveals-the-consoles-real-cpu-and-gpu-specs

PS4 18 shader cores @800mhz vs PC 20 shader cores @1050mhz

PS4 8 jaguar tablet cores (2 reserved for OS) vs PC quad core cpu 95% avaliable for games

PS4 8gb ram 3 for OS 5 for games vs PC 4gb ram 3 for games + 2gb Vram for games

PS4 1,84 teraflops vs PC 2,56 teraflops

2x 2gb 1333 ram does not even meet the requirments of watch dogs or cod ghost and these are just the first games at the start of this geneartion the requirements will increase alot

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#35 psymon100
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@jhonMalcovich said:

By the way, there is already a fix to remove that 30fps cap on PC

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That's great.

FYI @the_bi99man . 1min into this video the fix is described. it's not ideal. you can get a proper 60fps without the game running at double speed. however, a consequence of this fix is the game will slow down if you drop below 60fps. SMH.

Devs should have done it properly in the first place obviously, but I thought this was interesting and we were talking about it, so yeah, just FYI.

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#36 GTSaiyanjin2
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who buys a PC to match console settings? really if your going to make a gaming rig it wont come cheap. You can make a budget rig, but even that will cost at least $600-1000. Do it right the 1st time and you wont be wasting your time. If you make a PC like the one in the OP, you will be wanting to upgrade every year.