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#101 NyaDC
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@AM-Gamer said:

@nyadc: Project cars has lower poly car models and lower lvl enviormental detail. I thought you would know that as much as you look at distant trees in racing games.

Yeah, that's not true either.

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#102 AM-Gamer
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@pelvist: Except it didn't get the most games dumbass, THEY WERE CANCELLED! I don't post on alts like the rest of you trolls . Good day!

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#103 MikeHockbourns
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@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

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#104 wis3boi
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@lundy86_4 said:

Uggghhh...

this thread gave me diarrhea too

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#105 Notorious1234NA
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@ianhh6 said:

There's so many great reasons to own consoles, and you guys choose The Order: 1886 to defend your viewpoints? You must be morons.

I own both, but I'm curious name 5 reasons why some1 should own a PS4 or X1 cause games aint one of them. I'm waiting......

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#106  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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With me it just took MS dropping Kinect. Chose X1 as it at least looked to have gaming experiences not on the PC, wasn't impressed with the graphics of either console this gen, so I was looking so experiences that were unique and Kinect was supposed to be higher tech this time.

With Kinect gone, they're just low end PCs to me, with 2 or 3 retail exclusives a year and the rest going to the PC. I still have my X1 as it has lost too much value to make it worth getting rid of, but it's been relegated to the position of the Wii for me this gen. Just a distant secondary gaming thing.

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#107 AM-Gamer
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@nyadc: Errr yea it is.

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#108 remiks00
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@wis3boi said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Uggghhh...

this thread gave me diarrhea too

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#109  Edited By RyviusARC
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My friend was a console gamer for 20 years but once I showed him some of the same games running on PC at higher resolutions with much higher fps that didn't drop he quickly switched over to PC gaming while only using consoles for a few exclusives.

He also commented on how much better the load times were on PC.

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#110 Vaasman
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@AM-Gamer said:

The Order had a outstanding story btw.

Joking I assume.

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#111 thehig1
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@True_Gamer_: that's why I keep saying Fifa is better on PC, it's just plain wrong when people describe it as a game better in console.

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#112 True_Gamer_
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@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

Then u would not mind that your preferable console to LOSE FIFA which becomes exclusive to its arch rival platform?

I dare u to answer....

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#113 Catalli  Moderator
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@notorious1234na said:

@ianhh6 said:

There's so many great reasons to own consoles, and you guys choose The Order: 1886 to defend your viewpoints? You must be morons.

I own both, but I'm curious name 5 reasons why some1 should own a PS4 or X1 cause games aint one of them. I'm waiting......

Oh come on, so far the exclusives have been pretty bland, but many great ones will come, especially on the ps4. Just give it time.

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#114  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@RyviusARC said:

My friend was a console gamer for 20 years but once I showed him some of the same games running on PC at higher resolutions with much higher fps that didn't drop he quickly switched over to PC gaming while only using consoles for a few exclusives.

He also commented on how much better the load times were on PC.

The moral of the story is...it's better to have all platforms to experience any game you want. Never stick with one.

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#115  Edited By deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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@thehig1 said:

@True_Gamer_: that's why I keep saying Fifa is better on PC, it's just plain wrong when people describe it as a game better in console.

FIFA's most played mode is Ultimate Team and the market is always completely screwed on PC. Any of the decent players have stupidly high prices so you can't get half as good a team via playing matches as you can on consoles.

That alone is enough to put off most fans.

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#116  Edited By Notorious1234NA
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@ianhh6 said:

@notorious1234na said:

@ianhh6 said:

There's so many great reasons to own consoles, and you guys choose The Order: 1886 to defend your viewpoints? You must be morons.

I own both, but I'm curious name 5 reasons why some1 should own a PS4 or X1 cause games aint one of them. I'm waiting......

Oh come on, so far the exclusives have been pretty bland, but many great ones will come, especially on the ps4. Just give it time.

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#117  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@Vaasman: No I'm not it was well told and has some great concepts.

You have something like "The Evil within". Which has far worse tps mechanics, average at best visuals and a story that is contrived nonsense that makes no sense.

Yet it scores higher here?

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#118 SuddenlyTragic
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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

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@ribstaylor1: None of those look as good as The Order.

this.

Not a single one of those games has the gfx or budget of The Order. PC costs $2000 yet can't match a PS4.

First of all, what does graphics and a big budget have to do with a game being good? Obviously nothing if you're using The Order as an example of games with good graphics and a big budget, considering how terribly it did critically. Look at one of the oldest examples out there, Counter-Strike. It's still one of the most played games every single year and it uses the same formula that was used when it first came out in 1999. That original Counter-Strike was made by two college kids with no budget for game development of any kind. A game made for free by two college-aged modders has stood then test of time for almost 16 years - I'm doubting The Order will be leaving any kind of legacy and will be forgotten about in a year except to talk about graphics.

The Order does look very very good, I'm not going to deny that. However, many games are already better from a technical standpoint. Also, I'm fairly certain a $2000 PC will be able to outclass The Order no problem playing the Witcher 3 in 4K on ultra settings. Batman Arkham Knight will be pretty impressive too. Two "blockbusters" right there that I can guarantee will do better critically than The Order.

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#119  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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@EducatingU_PCMR: Yet still not a game that looks as good as the Order.

The Order had a outstanding story btw.

Who cares, the onrails blurfest prebaked out of Order 800p@sub30FPS is still technically inferior to Crysis 2 from 2011. And the most funny thing it was still downgraded from alpha build to final build. Oh, well, but the devs deserve props for producing a good looking turd on CONSOLES considering they had only a tablet CPU and a 570 level GPU to work with.

Oh and did, I forget, if we are just going by the looks the Vanishing of Ethan Carter looks much better than the out of Order 800p without being a blurfest. :D

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#120  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@zeeshanhaider: lol it rapes crysis 2 and I already destroyed your downgrade argument. Better luck next time troll. Buh buh teh cloth animation was same. Lmao GTFO!

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#121  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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@zeeshanhaider: lol it rapes crysis 2 and I already destroyed your downgrade argument. Better luck next time troll. Buh buh teh cloth animation was same. Lmao GTFO!

AM-Gamer's argument: Different animation keyframe was causing the change in polygon count. :D Oh and if by some miracle that statement was true in some alternate reality could someone tell me how the constable's character's poly count also got reduced?

And oh, I didn't know a blur fest with prebaked lighting and 800p could rape Crysis 2's generation ahead Hybrid deferred renderrer. LEL.

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#122  Edited By MikeHockbourns
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@True_Gamer_ said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

Then u would not mind that your preferable console to LOSE FIFA which becomes exclusive to its arch rival platform?

I dare u to answer....

huh? fifa will ALWAYS have a place on consoles. thats where it makes most of its money. and it will always continue to be most fun on consoles. lol fifa on pc hahaha. ANY sports game on pc lol.

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#123 GarGx1
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@pelvist: Except it didn't get the most games dumbass, THEY WERE CANCELLED! I don't post on alts like the rest of you trolls . Good day!

You appear to be arguing over the game budget link I posted

Lets straighten this up a little as it appears you haven't paid attention to that budget list at all.

There are two cancelled games on the list -

Halo MMO - PC exclusive - $90 Million, number 15

This is Vegas - multi-plat for PC, Xbox 360 and PS3

So let's do this without counting cancelled games

PC - 7 exclusives

Dreamcast - 1 exclusive

PS - 1 exclusive

PS2 - 1 exclusive

PS3 - 3 Exclusives

PS4 - 0 exclusives

Xbox - 0 exclusives

Xbox 360 - 2 exclusives

Xbox One - 0 exclusives

All other games on the list are multi-plats, i.e. available on more than one system which are not compatible with each other.

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#124  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@GarGx1: Exclusive wasn't the argument, it was what platform had the most big budget AAA titles. Which now has the PS3 and X360 ahead of the pc. The PS3/360 as share large portion of those games thus not making them available on pc. I didn't make the argument just simply stating facts.

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#125  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@zeeshanhaider: Except none of the models have reduced polycount. You tried to use the lower half the coat to compare rough edges. I simply showed you a 1 to 1 screen grab showing the rough edges no longer existed once the animation matched. You got straight owned, and now your running DC.

Lol and Crysis 2 motion blur looks like shit.

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#126 GarGx1
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@GarGx1: Exclusive wasn't the argument, it was what platform had the most big budget AAA titles. Which now has the PS3 and X360 ahead of the pc. The PS3/360 as share large portion of those games thus not making them available on pc. I didn't make the argument just simply stating facts.

Unfortunately you appear to be having difficult with basic arithmetic.

Going by that list, counting all games both exclusive and multi-plat and discounting the two cancelled games the totals look like this

PC - 22 games

PS - 2 games

PS2 - 1 game

PS3 - 20 games

PS4 - 4 games

Xbox - 1 game

Xbox360 - 19 games

Xbox One - 3 games

Dreamcast - 2 games

Gameboy - 1 game

You want to try again? Unless of course the old combine the systems trick is at play here.

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#127 NyaDC
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I have never seen someone white knight so diligently and delusionally for something in my life as this AM-Gamer guy is.

We get it, you think your PlayStation 4 is a super computer...

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#128 AM-Gamer
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@GarGx1: Your counting pc games all the way back in the PS1 era. So if you want to do it like that count all the PS together. That would put pc tied with Xbox and behind PlayStation. nice try.

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#129 AM-Gamer
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@nyadc: Nothing I said was delusional and not once did I refer to the PS4 as a super computer.

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#130 DEadliNE-Zero0
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So we're having another discussion about The Corridor's graphics?

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#131 madsnakehhh
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Why the heck does people even bother with arguing with a fakeboy like @Halo2-Best-FPS seriously guys, be smart.

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#132  Edited By -God-
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@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

lol multiplats,rts,moba,tbs,mmo,sims,builders on console

lol competitive gaming on console

lol aiming on console

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#133  Edited By -God-
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@AM-Gamer said:

@nyadc: Driveclub is the best looking racing game currently on the Market.

Sure looks like shit unless you use photomode shots. lol.

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#134  Edited By Vaasman
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@Vaasman: No I'm not it was well told and has some great concepts.

Big whoop.

Production value and a strong concept can't hide that it's the same bland secret society action story you've seen a million times, right down to the obvious twists and cliches. Basically, it's Assassin's Creed 1 to a tee. Yet on top of that it's just really boring; over-expositing like crazy and forcing the player down several long stretches of 0 action, worthy development, or gameplay. Not to mention the ending is garbage, and by the same token it doesn't work as a self-contained story, nor as the opening to a series.

Any potential is squandered by how completely rote the plot itself is. There is a pretty good reason this did not resonate with reviewers. You just need to accept that.

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#135 GarGx1
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@AM-Gamer said:

@GarGx1: Your counting pc games all the way back in the PS1 era. So if you want to do it like that count all the PS together. That would put pc tied with Xbox and behind PlayStation. nice try.

Can you play all the games on every PlayStation or every Xbox? Nope, so you're argument is based on combining multiple incompatible systems.

Thought so.

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#136  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@GarGx1: What would it matter if you could play it on the same platform? You said the pc had the most AAA big budget titles. In fact it doesn't, the PlayStation brand alone funded more AAA titles then PC. Your logic is taking a system from the 90s and comparing it to 3 separate platforms. And actually I can play PS1,2 and PS3 games on my fully BC PS3. So if we want to play that game we can.

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#137 True_Gamer_
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@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_ said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

Then u would not mind that your preferable console to LOSE FIFA which becomes exclusive to its arch rival platform?

I dare u to answer....

huh? fifa will ALWAYS have a place on consoles. thats where it makes most of its money. and it will always continue to be most fun on consoles. lol fifa on pc hahaha. ANY sports game on pc lol.

Explain any non preferential PRACTICAL non mentally impaired reason that FIFA is better on a consoles.

Lol at reading my post.

lol 1 mil beggars begging for leagues

lol console nazi closed system...

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#138  Edited By lawlessx
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@RyviusARC said:

My friend was a console gamer for 20 years but once I showed him some of the same games running on PC at higher resolutions with much higher fps that didn't drop he quickly switched over to PC gaming while only using consoles for a few exclusives.

He also commented on how much better the load times were on PC.

a console friend of mine who is a huge fan skyrim one day called me asking me about a youtube he found. What he found was an collection of graphic mod videos for skyrim

Lets just say he can't even enjoy looking at skyrim on the PS3 anymore..

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@lawlessx said:

@RyviusARC said:

My friend was a console gamer for 20 years but once I showed him some of the same games running on PC at higher resolutions with much higher fps that didn't drop he quickly switched over to PC gaming while only using consoles for a few exclusives.

He also commented on how much better the load times were on PC.

a console friend of mine who is a huge fan skyrim one day called me asking me about a youtube he found. What he found was an collection of graphic mod videos for skyrim

Lets just say he can't even enjoy looking at skyrim on the PS3 anymore..

Yah I have Skyrim loaded up with graphics mods.

Haven't taken any recent pictures of it fully configured but I have some old ones I took when I was still adding in mods.

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#140 thehig1
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@True_Gamer_ said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_ said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

Then u would not mind that your preferable console to LOSE FIFA which becomes exclusive to its arch rival platform?

I dare u to answer....

huh? fifa will ALWAYS have a place on consoles. thats where it makes most of its money. and it will always continue to be most fun on consoles. lol fifa on pc hahaha. ANY sports game on pc lol.

Explain any non preferential PRACTICAL non mentally impaired reason that FIFA is better on a consoles.

Lol at reading my post.

lol 1 mil beggars begging for leagues

lol console nazi closed system...

ignore him he's trolling, he knows the PC version of Fifa is better

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#141 MikeHockbourns
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@-God- said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

lol multiplats,rts,moba,tbs,mmo,sims,builders on console

lol competitive gaming on console

lol aiming on console

lolpcgaming

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#142 Vecna
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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

@ribstaylor1 said:

@Halo2-Best-FPS: Really not sure which of the 6700 games I have on my pc that aren't flash games I should be playing right now. You want to help me make that decision, the list spans generations all the way back the pong, and I can't for the life of me decide which one from what system I really want to play.

Which of those game has bigger budget and better gfx than The Order.

I'll wait.

5/10

No one who reviewed that turd of a game liked it.

PS4 has nowhere to go but down. Wait until DX12 hits. PC power, down to metal coding. Consoles are very shortly going to look like Gameboys.

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#143 -God-
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@mikehockbourns said:

@-God- said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

lol multiplats,rts,moba,tbs,mmo,sims,builders on console

lol competitive gaming on console

lol aiming on console

lolpcgaming

lolinferiorconsoles

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#144  Edited By NyaDC
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@mikehockbourns said:

@-God- said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

lol multiplats,rts,moba,tbs,mmo,sims,builders on console

lol competitive gaming on console

lol aiming on console

lolpcgaming

lolpcgaming what? There's literally nothing to "laugh out loud" about.

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#145 MikeHockbourns
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@nyadc said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@-God- said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

lol multiplats,rts,moba,tbs,mmo,sims,builders on console

lol competitive gaming on console

lol aiming on console

lolpcgaming

lolpcgaming what? There's literally nothing to "laugh out loud" about.

yea there is.

you don't get console exclusives. you have to wait years for all the best console games (red dead, gta 5, valkyria chronicles.......) by the time those games actually come out your shitty $2000 rigs are out-dated. you get those stupid game crash blue screens lol, all the best games come to consoles, pc is an after thought, pc gets only indies and some boring league of legends nerdville crap. pc used to be cool in the 90s but today pc gaming is complete shit.

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#146  Edited By zeeshanhaider
Member since 2004 • 5524 Posts

@AM-Gamer said:

@zeeshanhaider: Except none of the models have reduced polycount. You tried to use the lower half the coat to compare rough edges. I simply showed you a 1 to 1 screen grab showing the rough edges no longer existed once the animation matched. You got straight owned, and now your running DC.

Lol and Crysis 2 motion blur looks like shit.

Lies, lies and lies. Flagged for outright lying.

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#147  Edited By -God-
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@mikehockbourns said:

yea there is.

you don't get console exclusives. you have to wait years for all the best console games (red dead, gta 5, valkyria chronicles.......) by the time those games actually come out your shitty $2000 rigs are out-dated. you get those stupid game crash blue screens lol, all the best games come to consoles, pc is an after thought, pc gets only indies and some boring league of legends nerdville crap. pc used to be cool in the 90s but today pc gaming is complete shit.

Oh, you're trolling.

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#148 NyaDC
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@mikehockbourns said:

@nyadc said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@-God- said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@True_Gamer_: LOL fifa on pc.

hahahaha

lol multiplats,rts,moba,tbs,mmo,sims,builders on console

lol competitive gaming on console

lol aiming on console

lolpcgaming

lolpcgaming what? There's literally nothing to "laugh out loud" about.

yea there is.

you don't get console exclusives. you have to wait years for all the best console games (red dead, gta 5, valkyria chronicles.......) by the time those games actually come out your shitty $2000 rigs are out-dated. you get those stupid game crash blue screens lol, all the best games come to consoles, pc is an after thought, pc gets only indies and some boring league of legends nerdville crap. pc used to be cool in the 90s but today pc gaming is complete shit.

You don't get PC exclusives on consoles so that point is moot, that of which there are literally tens to hundreds released a year, what does a console get? MAYBE five to eight on a good year... On top of this there are multiple entire game genres which do not come to consoles simply because of the input device, a controller. We get so many games that any void from not getting a particular console exclusive or game which takes time to come out on the PC later is entirely filled by dozens of other games, what do you get in place of not getting PC exclusives? Oh yeah, nothing.

Then to top all of this off we have a back catalog of thousands of games we can play at will that transcends every hardware generation. Blue screens? I haven't had one in over two years, I'm not a bumbling idiot like you likely are, I know how to operate and maintain my PC. Your inferiority complex is massive, you're poor or a casual, you'd have to be, because that is the only logical reason any "gamer" would own a console only and not a PC capable of playing games.

All of our games also look and run better, plus they're capable of modifications, enjoy your closed source system where a developer decides exactly what and how you play a game.

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#149  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@zeeshanhaider: Hahaha except nothing I said was a lie..... " but teh animation on the picture is the same" That's an example of a lie.