Tomb Raider PS4 and Xbox One Has Different Devs

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#1 FreedomFreeLife
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/24/tomb-raider-definitive-edition-ps4-and-xbox-one-had-different-devs

Nixxes Software for PlayStation 4, United Front Games for Xbox One.

Well this explains everything.

United Fronts Games - ModNation Racers was made on PS3 which also had frame rate problems. Now they created Tomb Raider on Xbox One

Nixxes - Tomb Raider underworld, deus ex human revolution and hitman absolution creates Tomb Raider on Playstation 4.

Well, looks like it was not about power but about developers INSTEAD

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#2 stereointegrity
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are you really gonna play this card?

This is how u damage control now by blaming devs because one game had frame rate issues on the PS3..

The thirst is real

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#3  Edited By cainetao11
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Why not play that card? Cows cried lazy developer's all last gen, and he provided past history of devs incompetence.

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#4 FreedomFreeLife
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@stereointegrity said:

are you really gonna play this card?

This is how u damage control now by blaming devs because one game had frame rate issues on the PS3..

The thirst is real

Mafia 2 game. PS3 had frame rate problems, no GRASS while Xbox 360 had very good running and good frame rate. Oh yeah right, you ignore that because thats another fact. I can bring like 20 games more like that.

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#5 Shielder7
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This is a poor excuse for X1 bad performance a lot of developers had problems programing for cell.

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#6  Edited By I_can_haz
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"b...bu...bu...bu....but teh different devs!"

Which stage are you in OP?

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#7  Edited By freedomfreak
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Blaming the developers?

Tables have turned so hard this gen.

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#8 FreedomFreeLife
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@freedomfreak said:

Blaming the developers?

Tables have turned so hard this gen.

Lol did you forgot your last gen? Oh right... you Sony fanboy. You ignore all worse ports that were on PS3. Of cause...

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

@freedomfreak said:

Blaming the developers?

Tables have turned so hard this gen.

Lol did you forgot your last gen? Oh right... you Sony fanboy. You ignore all worse ports that were on PS3. Of cause...

You're calling freedomfreak a cow? LMAO! You truly are delusional.

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@freedomfreak said:

Blaming the developers?

Tables have turned so hard this gen.

Yup. Damage Control at it's finest. I have requested a mod to lock this frivolous thread made for nefarious reasons.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Lol did you forgot your last gen? Oh right... you Sony fanboy. You ignore all worse ports that were on PS3. Of cause...

Of cause.

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#12  Edited By EnviousEyezOnMe
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While I do agree that the choice of devs for the X1 version might have something to do with it, I would let it go. No one is going to buy this game anyway and the devs will learn the hard way not to pull this isshhh again! Let the Sony fanboys pump their fists in "victory" when they've not won a damn thing. Just think, they'll be sitting in here talking to themselves for months to come while we all are playing TitanFall. I'm sure someone will say, "but we have Second Son"....true but you guys will be over and done with that game in 2 weeks tops and then what?

My advice would be to let this one go but that's just me.............

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#13  Edited By blackace
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@I_can_haz said:

"b...bu...bu...bu....but teh different devs!"

Which stage are you in? lmao!! Oh.. all of them.

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#15  Edited By timbers_WSU
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@Heil68 said:

@freedomfreak said:

Blaming the developers?

Tables have turned so hard this gen.

Yup. Damage Control at it's finest. I have requested a mod to lock this frivolous thread made for nefarious reasons.

If threads were locked over stupidity then the Cows would never have anything to say. And we all know you are "Buddies" with mods.

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#16 blackace
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@FreedomFreeLife: This doesn't surprise me. Not sure why Crystal Dynamic didn't make the game themselves. Not buying this crap.

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#17  Edited By PinkieWinkie
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Man lems will come up with anything to help them sleep at night

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#18  Edited By solidx12
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@blackace: sounds like you are in between anger and depression stages. Hang on u almost back to normal . Lmao

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#19 no-scope-AK47
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The xflop and ps4 are basically the same. The apu's are both from AMD and the memory is united so it's not like the 360 and ps3. Also if it was one or two games xbots might have a point. The ps4 is just stronger and the games are showing the result of that gap. The scary thing is if anything the ps4 will most likely look better as time goes on and devs understand the hardware better.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/24/tomb-raider-definitive-edition-ps4-and-xbox-one-had-different-devs

Nixxes Software for PlayStation 4, United Front Games for Xbox One.

Well this explains everything.

United Fronts Games - ModNation Racers was made on PS3 which also had frame rate problems. Now they created Tomb Raider on Xbox One

Nixxes - Tomb Raider underworld, deus ex human revolution and hitman absolution creates Tomb Raider on Playstation 4.

Well, looks like it was not about power but about developers INSTEAD

This might be believable except ONE BIG PROBLEM! Many other multiplat games for X1 & PS4 are also stating that PS4 is 60fps on those games & X1 is at 30 fps for those games. Stop posting BS topics with no facts to back up your topics. You're looking like a crazy Lemming!

PS4 is more powerful & many many sites have topics to prove it. There isn't even one instance of a game on X1 outperforming the PS4. Just accept it, the PS4 is more powerful & the result is games look & run better on the PS4!!!

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#21 blackace
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@solidx12 said:

@blackace: sounds like you are in between anger and depression stages. Hang on u almost back to normal . Lmao

Not angry at all. Why would I be? I could easily play this on my PC if I chose to. *shrug* Won't buy it, cause it's not really worth it. Already own the XBox 360 version that I need to finish.

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@timbers_WSU said:

@Heil68 said:

@freedomfreak said:

Blaming the developers?

Tables have turned so hard this gen.

Yup. Damage Control at it's finest. I have requested a mod to lock this frivolous thread made for nefarious reasons.

If threads were locked over stupidity then the Cows would never have anything to say. And we all know you are "Buddies" with mods.

I'm friends with quite a few mods because I practice the Live, Learn and Love lifestyle that SONY symbolizes.

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#23  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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This damage control is absolutely hilarious, lol. OF cause I knew you would make this thread tho.

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#24  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Ps4 : "It only processes twice as much"

"It only does everything"

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Well, looks like it was not about power but about developers INSTEAD

Nowhere in that article did it say anything about the difference is because of the devs and it also mentioned that Nixxes helped UFG when needed.

Whelp, it looks like we are back to it is because the X1 is an inferior product.

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@FreedomFreeLife: So that means that the PS3 always had trouble because of devs and not hardware?

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#27 Sagemode87
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@cainetao11: Um that card was valid for PS3. No way in hell is it valid for Xbox One. Xbox One may be more complicated to develop for than PS4 but it's still EASY to develop for. PS3s cell was extremely complicated to work with. You're reaching if you think it's the same thing.

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#28 cainetao11
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@Sagemode87: oh my bad. So how much developing have you done on the x1?

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XB1 has a different architecture then the PS4 with the ESRAM memory. Once devs get use to that, the firmware and software tools, everything will be fine. I think all these issues will be resolved before the end of the year. Sony had to deal with the problem with the PS3, Microsoft will deal with it for the XB1.

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@freedomfreak said:

Blaming the developers?

Tables have turned so hard this gen.

Wow! look at this cow, so desperate ;)

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#32 BlessedChill
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BlackAce meltdown in this thread too?! Jesus....

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@BlessedChill said:

BlackAce meltdown in this thread too?! Jesus....

Story of his life on SW. Sad really.

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#34 Shewgenja
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This only underlines Microsofts inability to attract talent to support their new XFlop.

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@Shewgenja said:

This only underlines Microsofts inability to attract talent to support their new XFlop.

how does this have anything to do with microsoft?

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#36  Edited By stereointegrity
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@blackace said:

XB1 has a different architecture then the PS4 with the ESRAM memory. Once devs get use to that, the firmware and software tools, everything will be fine. I think all these issues will be resolved before the end of the year. Sony had to deal with the problem with the PS3, Microsoft will deal with it for the XB1.

U sound just like misterxmedia

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#37  Edited By Locutus_Picard
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Further proof that A-team developers can't be bothered to develop for XB1. I wouldn't either. It's only a matter of time till all XB1 ports are relegated to port-studios and have 6 months delays.

#JumpOut

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#38  Edited By silversix_
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Your bone is running on a HD7770 and you blame devs LOL. If there's anyone to blame that's MS for taking the WiiU path.

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@lostrib said:

@Shewgenja said:

This only underlines Microsofts inability to attract talent to support their new XFlop.

how does this have anything to do with microsoft?

There's no denying their brand power has suffered since losing the lead over the PS3 and the negativity surrounding the FloppyBone.

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#40  Edited By lostrib
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@Shewgenja said:

@lostrib said:

@Shewgenja said:

This only underlines Microsofts inability to attract talent to support their new XFlop.

how does this have anything to do with microsoft?

There's no denying their brand power has suffered since losing the lead over the PS3 and the negativity surrounding the FloppyBone.

source?

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#41  Edited By Locutus_Picard
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@blackace said:

XB1 has a different architecture then the PS4 with the ESRAM memory. Once devs get use to that, the firmware and software tools, everything will be fine. I think all these issues will be resolved before the end of the year. Sony had to deal with the problem with the PS3, Microsoft will deal with it for the XB1.

They won't, they don't have the patience this time/gen around, that's why they outsource it for a quickie port. It's a message that XB1 is a second-rate console for a third-class fanbase. Just don't buy the XB1 version, that'll show em!

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#42  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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lol lem excuses.

Just admit that the Xbone has crap hardware and get it over with.

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#43  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@enviouseyezonme said:

While I do agree that the choice of devs for the X1 version might have something to do with it, I would let it go. No one is going to buy this game anyway and the devs will learn the hard way not to pull this isshhh again! Let the Sony fanboys pump their fists in "victory" when they've not won a damn thing. Just think, they'll be sitting in here talking to themselves for months to come while we all are playing TitanFall. I'm sure someone will say, "but we have Second Son"....true but you guys will be over and done with that game in 2 weeks tops and then what?

My advice would be to let this one go but that's just me.............

Then we will have #DriveClub and MLB The Show. Both of those games will have long legs.

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@blackace said:

XB1 has a different architecture then the PS4 with the ESRAM memory. Once devs get use to that, the firmware and software tools, everything will be fine. I think all these issues will be resolved before the end of the year. Sony had to deal with the problem with the PS3, Microsoft will deal with it for the XB1.

It's sad that people actually think this...

The problem with the PS3 is nothing like the Xbox One has. The PS3 had a very powerful CPU compared to the X360 but a slightly worse GPU, but the CPU was also harder to code for, and obviously much harder to account for a slower GPU with less features.

But obviously when you look at how things turned out with games like GTAV once developers took some time to think about it there were able to makes both system run exactly the same or sometimes better on PS3. So all in all it was a bit of a non issue once people learned it, if the PS3 had the same GPU as the 360 then people would have never mentioned the cell as being the problem at all.

This time it's not so clear cut, the PS3 was always more powerful at some things (CPU) but less powerful at others (GPU), the Xbox One is slower or on par at everything, slower ram, slower GPU, less compute units, and more or less the same CPU. How on earth are they going to make anything run on par let alone better than on PS4.

What next the DirectX card?