Tomb Raider on PS4 looks like crap

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#1 Posted by leandrro (901 posts) -

check this video comparison (not my video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teb1VF1Ptho

Lara is a cartoonish downgraded version of the Lara i played with

at 0:46 i see a person i know, a very familiar face and expression

at 0:42 i see a dowgraded version of hat face that i can barely recognize

my 400 dollars PC can run this game 1080p 60fps maxedout, so why did PS4 owners are getting a downgraded version? PS4 has almost the same power as my PC

#2 Edited by Vatusus (4684 posts) -

I agree that the PS3/360 version of Lara Croft is more prettier than the new one. What the hell were they thinking? Why change her beautifull face for a barbie doll full of botox one?

#3 Edited by killatwill15 (845 posts) -

probably still looks better than the xbox one version,

or is this one of those lemming stealth threads?

#4 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1362 posts) -

You act like they built the game ground up for ps4. All they did is upgrade some textures and change her hair and face. Its a money grab

#5 Posted by tormentos (18314 posts) -

@leandrro said:

check this video comparison (not my video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teb1VF1Ptho

Lara is a cartoonish downgraded version of the Lara i played with

at 0:46 i see a person i know, a very familiar face and expression

at 0:42 i see a dowgraded version of hat face that i can barely recognize

my 400 dollars PC can run this game 1080p 60fps maxedout, so why did PS4 owners are getting a downgraded version? PS4 has almost the same power as my PC

You mean your $600 dollar PC which you like to pretend is $400 because you like to leave parts out and use stolen windows licenses.?

hahaha

#6 Edited by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

Wow, definitive edition my ass! PC utterly destroys the ps4 version in every way. The superior Lara model is so much better on PC. They should rename the ps4 version to "inferior edition". And to think, the ps4 version only runs at 30fps. What a fucking joke! I highly suggest people get the true definitive version on PC, not to mention you can easily get it for about $5-$10 as it goes on sale very very often.

#7 Edited by PinkieWinkie (1362 posts) -

Also after watching the video I think it looks better at 42 than 46...not that there is barely any difference at all

#8 Posted by EndlessInfinity (219 posts) -

@tormentos:

so what are the parts that add up to 600 dollars?

#9 Posted by always_explicit (2932 posts) -

@endlessinfinity said:

@tormentos:

so what are the parts that add up to 600 dollars?

Ah God dont give the douchebag an excuse...

#10 Edited by TheFadeForever (1829 posts) -

30fp on the ps4 lol

inb4 butthurt fanboys

#11 Posted by leandrro (901 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@leandrro said:

check this video comparison (not my video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teb1VF1Ptho

Lara is a cartoonish downgraded version of the Lara i played with

at 0:46 i see a person i know, a very familiar face and expression

at 0:42 i see a dowgraded version of hat face that i can barely recognize

my 400 dollars PC can run this game 1080p 60fps maxedout, so why did PS4 owners are getting a downgraded version? PS4 has almost the same power as my PC

You mean your $600 dollar PC which you like to pretend is $400 because you like to leave parts out and use stolen windows licenses.?

hahaha

see, if im really really dumb and pay 100 for windows it becomes a 500 dollars PC

to play TR online your PS4 + tomb raider + PSN = 510

my PC came with 3 free games, one of them is tomb raider, i saved $10 and got a much better game

not so funny now huh?

#12 Posted by leandrro (901 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

Also after watching the video I think it looks better at 42 than 46...not that there is barely any difference at all

look at those garbage textures, the only explanation is that they are making X1 and PS4 versions identical, another game destroyed by lowest common denominator

#13 Edited by -RPGamer- (34283 posts) -

I like the new Lara model, it matches the CG more than the older model.

#14 Edited by mems_1224 (47230 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@leandrro said:

check this video comparison (not my video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teb1VF1Ptho

Lara is a cartoonish downgraded version of the Lara i played with

at 0:46 i see a person i know, a very familiar face and expression

at 0:42 i see a dowgraded version of hat face that i can barely recognize

my 400 dollars PC can run this game 1080p 60fps maxedout, so why did PS4 owners are getting a downgraded version? PS4 has almost the same power as my PC

You mean your $600 dollar PC which you like to pretend is $400 because you like to leave parts out and use stolen windows licenses.?

hahaha

Even a $600 PC is cheaper than the PS4 in the long run. Games are way cheaper on PC and theres more of them.

#15 Posted by freedomfreak (40883 posts) -

RWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#16 Posted by uninspiredcup (8910 posts) -

Next generation is an opportunity to chump chumps. Publishers see meatballs and want meatballs money.

PC for winners. If you aren't on pc and winning, well, you're on the wrong team.

#17 Posted by leandrro (901 posts) -

@-RPGamer- said:

I like the new Lara model, it matches the CG more than the older model.

she lost her expression, looks like a robot now, the cause might be less texture detail and less polygons on her face, also tress fx on the hair is weaker on ps4, what a awful port

#18 Posted by inb4uall (5806 posts) -

It's tomb raider. It's garbage. What did you expect?

#19 Edited by lostrib (37536 posts) -

I bet your $400 PC did not run it maxed out at 1080p/60fps

#20 Posted by -RPGamer- (34283 posts) -

@leandrro: if poly counts and textures were a factor than the PS3 and 360 Lara would be emotionless slates. Since that's not the case, than those probably aren't factors, which leads me to think its just your opinion.

#21 Posted by leandrro (901 posts) -

@inb4uall said:

It's tomb raider. It's garbage. What did you expect?

its a great game, i also like uncharted but TR is better

#22 Posted by nutcrackr (12628 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

You act like they built the game ground up for ps4. All they did is upgrade some textures and change her hair and face. Its a money grab

Indeed.

#23 Posted by uninspiredcup (8910 posts) -

@lostrib said:

I bet your $400 PC did not run it maxed out at 1080p/60fps

Easily. The most demanding aspect is TrissFX and AA. The console version is probably just using FXAA. And TrissFX will run fine on AMD cards.

With TrissFX off, you ran easily run super sampling on a $400 pc with a steady 30fps.

Super sampling, would of course, cripple a console.

#24 Posted by tonyleo01 (1259 posts) -

so... someone who actually own a $400 gaming PC on System Wars actually do exist O_o??

#25 Posted by lostrib (37536 posts) -

@tonyleo01 said:

so... someone who actually own a $400 gaming PC on System Wars actually do exist O_o??

No

#26 Posted by lostrib (37536 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

I bet your $400 PC did not run it maxed out at 1080p/60fps

Easily. The most demanding aspect is TrissFX and AA. The console version is probably just using FXAA. And TrissFX will run fine on AMD cards.

With TrissFX off, you ran easily run super sampling on a $400 pc with a steady 30fps.

Super sampling, would of course, cripple a console.

*TressFX

So obviously he isn't running it maxed. Perhaps he can hit console settings, but not maxed

#27 Edited by uninspiredcup (8910 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

I bet your $400 PC did not run it maxed out at 1080p/60fps

Easily. The most demanding aspect is TrissFX and AA. The console version is probably just using FXAA. And TrissFX will run fine on AMD cards.

With TrissFX off, you ran easily run super sampling on a $400 pc with a steady 30fps.

Super sampling, would of course, cripple a console.

*TressFX

So obviously he isn't running it maxed. Perhaps he can hit console settings, but not maxed

I respect your opinion my long time friend. However, it is fairly easy for a mid end card to beat consoles. Even if it doesn't match it, the difference will be so tiny, it will border on irrelevant.

The main argument here, should probably be the price. The pc version is currently, roughly, half the price. Aside from a slightly different face, this is opportunistic fucks, taking the piss.

#28 Posted by lostrib (37536 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

I bet your $400 PC did not run it maxed out at 1080p/60fps

Easily. The most demanding aspect is TrissFX and AA. The console version is probably just using FXAA. And TrissFX will run fine on AMD cards.

With TrissFX off, you ran easily run super sampling on a $400 pc with a steady 30fps.

Super sampling, would of course, cripple a console.

*TressFX

So obviously he isn't running it maxed. Perhaps he can hit console settings, but not maxed

I respect your opinion my long time friend. However, it is fairly easy for a mid end card to beat consoles. Even if it doesn't match it, the difference will be so tiny, it will border on irrelevant.

The main argument here, should probably be the price. The pc version is currently, roughly, half the price. Aside from a slightly different face, this is opportunistic fucks, taking the piss.

I'm not arguing if he can beat consoles. I'm simply saying that it is improbably he is maxing out the game at 1080p with a consistent 60 fps

#29 Posted by Gaming-Planet (14022 posts) -

Wow, her new face totally ruins the survivor theme.

#30 Edited by leandrro (901 posts) -

@lostrib said:

I bet your $400 PC did not run it maxed out at 1080p/60fps

youre right

i didnt remember my fps very well

just did a in game benchmark and it runs 44fps avg, all maxed out + fxaa, (uses 40% of my cpu + 99% gpu)

with 4x ssaa it drops to 20fps, its the kind of thing that destroys the performance without giving barely no visual improvement

still its totally unexplainable why PS4 is getting a much downgraded version that also runs at only 30fps

#31 Edited by DefconRave (658 posts) -

She looks like a character out of FF now, she looks even more asian than b4, wtf.

Her original face at least was fairly natural and cute somewhat, this one looks like she got a facelift and botox, fugly as hell lol.

I'll stick to my superior pc version. But if they use this face for the next tomb raider, think many are gonna be p*ssed :P

#32 Posted by MrXboxOne (743 posts) -

@leandrro said:

check this video comparison (not my video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teb1VF1Ptho

Lara is a cartoonish downgraded version of the Lara i played with

at 0:46 i see a person i know, a very familiar face and expression

at 0:42 i see a dowgraded version of hat face that i can barely recognize

my 400 dollars PC can run this game 1080p 60fps maxedout, so why did PS4 owners are getting a downgraded version? PS4 has almost the same power as my PC

They made it more realistic to the model Camilla Luddington.

#33 Posted by Riverwolf007 (23838 posts) -

meh, every gen gets a few crappy ports.

remember how bad gun was?

#34 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (2101 posts) -

as if anyone was going to buy this game???

#35 Posted by millerlight89 (18549 posts) -

I'll judge it when I get it in the mail. I'm not going to cry like people here over a slight change in the face.

#36 Posted by leandrro (901 posts) -

@DefconRave said:

She looks like a character out of FF now, she looks even more asian than b4, wtf.

Her original face at least was fairly natural and cute somewhat, this one looks like she got a facelift and botox, fugly as hell lol.

I'll stick to my superior pc version. But if they use this face for the next tomb raider, think many are gonna be p*ssed :P

they could only use lower textures, shadows and polygons on X1, what do to then?

lets give her a new look with a clean face and say its a "new visual style"

#37 Posted by -RPGamer- (34283 posts) -

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS: sure, I will be. I'll wait for a price drop, which is my main issue with the game. The starting price point for port of an older game should not be $60.

#38 Edited by DefconRave (658 posts) -

@leandrro said:

@DefconRave said:

She looks like a character out of FF now, she looks even more asian than b4, wtf.

Her original face at least was fairly natural and cute somewhat, this one looks like she got a facelift and botox, fugly as hell lol.

I'll stick to my superior pc version. But if they use this face for the next tomb raider, think many are gonna be p*ssed :P

they could only use lower textures, shadows and polygons on X1, what do to then?

lets give her a new look with a clean face and say its a "new visual style"

Freakin consoles ruin everything :S :P

#39 Posted by blamix99 (2043 posts) -

why? are you guys planning to get this version? i already beated the game on my PS3, so im not playing the game again on PS4

#40 Edited by -RPGamer- (34283 posts) -

@leandrro: although I'm pretty sure you know this, your logic makes no sense since the game exists already on last gen consoles. But if this is your shtick than have at it...

#41 Posted by lostrib (37536 posts) -

@leandrro said:

@lostrib said:

I bet your $400 PC did not run it maxed out at 1080p/60fps

youre right

i didnt remember my fps very well

just did a in game benchmark and it runs 44fps avg, all maxed out + fxaa, (uses 40% of my cpu + 99% gpu)

with 4x ssaa it drops to 20fps, its the kind of thing that destroys the performance without giving barely no visual improvement

still its totally unexplainable why PS4 is getting a much downgraded version that also runs at only 30fps

that's because SSAA stands for super sampling anti-aliasing, which is why it causes such a performance hit

#42 Edited by DefconRave (658 posts) -

@-RPGamer- said:

@leandrro: although I'm pretty sure you know this, your logic makes no sense since the game exists already on last gen consoles. But if this is your shtick than have at it...

Think he's worried SE will use this version of Lara for future titles.

#43 Posted by -RPGamer- (34283 posts) -

@DefconRave: if I pretend like that his only agenda, I still don't see an issue with the new face as it matches the CG Lara more than than her other face. Also I find her face isn't over animated with this new version.

#44 Posted by Nengo_Flow (9807 posts) -

I would be upset, if i cared for the game.

#45 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14404 posts) -

@inb4uall said:

It's tomb raider. It's garbage. What did you expect?

lmao, she looks like something from a skyrim mod.

#46 Posted by leandrro (901 posts) -

@-RPGamer- said:

@DefconRave: if I pretend like that his only agenda, I still don't see an issue with the new face as it matches the CG Lara more than than her other face. Also I find her face isn't over animated with this new version.

the CG is b4 the action, the scars dirt require decent textures, so washed out textures + clean face = closer to CG

#47 Posted by megaspiderweb09 (3686 posts) -

The funny thing is that the new definitive version looks much closer to the original Lara they showed in the concept art and cover art for the game.

#48 Edited by -RPGamer- (34283 posts) -

@leandrro: I'm clearly talking about the structure and shape of her face. Also last gen systems could handle the dirt and scars, so I'm not sure why you keep trying to bring up texture quality.

#49 Edited by blangenakker (2378 posts) -

Apparently they improved the motion capture and the model is closer to what the actor looks like, apparently.

#50 Posted by EndlessInfinity (219 posts) -

It is 30fps and it doesn't look better than the pc version. Please can any fanboy here explain and justify the 60 dollars for this so called definitive version.