Tomb Raider Gameplay Footage Lara slaughtering her way through XD

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Oh crikey look at tha! It's a shootah!

Master_ShakeXXX

A lame attempt at an Australian accent? :lol:

Better than trying to sound like you know what you're talking about :cool:

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

A game with a confused identity. The only thing they can do is strip Lara off her weapons for a large bit of the game and emphasise stealth and avoiding confrontation if they want that transition of Lara to be believable

mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

A game with a confused identity. The only thing they can do is strip Lara off her weapons for a large bit of the game and emphasise stealth and avoiding confrontation if they want that transition of Lara to be believable

BrunoBRS

Talk about Lara being overdramatic and people talk so much trash for Samus on Metroid Other M.

Just watched the whole video. It was great, I cant wait to play this. mems_1224

Hell has frozen over...

you can't be that stupid. i'm not talking about the PS1 games. i'm talking about THIS game. the game where they paint the protagonist as this frail, defenseless girl struggling to survive. the game where the protagonist hasn't ever held a gun until a few minutes into the game. a game where the story spends a whole lot of f*cking time making a big deal of how unprepared she is, and how this isn't her forte. a game that completely ignores everything the story estabilishes for the sake of bonus exp for setting people on fire, shotgunning downed men, or firing arrows on their heads.BrunoBRS

Pretty damn generic and uninspiring gameplay.  

Hyped died a lot after seeing this gameplay footage.  

Game looks like **** too.  Horrible textures.  

Fizzman

Your opinion is worthless.

Pretty damn generic and uninspiring gameplay.  

Hyped died a lot after seeing this gameplay footage.  

Game looks like **** too.  Horrible textures.  

Fizzman

Your opinion is worthless.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]you can't be that stupid. i'm not talking about the PS1 games. i'm talking about THIS game. the game where they paint the protagonist as this frail, defenseless girl struggling to survive. the game where the protagonist hasn't ever held a gun until a few minutes into the game. a game where the story spends a whole lot of f*cking time making a big deal of how unprepared she is, and how this isn't her forte. a game that completely ignores everything the story estabilishes for the sake of bonus exp for setting people on fire, shotgunning downed men, or firing arrows on their heads.mems_1224

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Oh crikey look at tha! It's a shootah!

Master_ShakeXXX

A lame attempt at an Australian accent? :lol:

a game that completely ignores everything the story estabilishes for the sake of bonus exp for setting people on fire, shotgunning downed men, or firing arrows on their heads.BrunoBRS

I don't see a problem with this...

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]you can't be that stupid. i'm not talking about the PS1 games. i'm talking about THIS game. the game where they paint the protagonist as this frail, defenseless girl struggling to survive. the game where the protagonist hasn't ever held a gun until a few minutes into the game. a game where the story spends a whole lot of f*cking time making a big deal of how unprepared she is, and how this isn't her forte. a game that completely ignores everything the story estabilishes for the sake of bonus exp for setting people on fire, shotgunning downed men, or firing arrows on their heads.BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Key word. 

mems_1224

I agree.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]a game that completely ignores everything the story estabilishes for the sake of bonus exp for setting people on fire, shotgunning downed men, or firing arrows on their heads.StrongBlackVine

I don't see a problem with this...

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

I don't see a problem with this...

BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Pretty damn generic and uninspiring gameplay.  

Hyped died a lot after seeing this gameplay footage.  

Game looks like **** too.  Horrible textures.  

StrongBlackVine

Your opinion is worthless.

Get back to tending my fields you worthless peasant.  You will only speak when spoken to.  

I would never have guessed the Uncharted influence on this game.

Blazerdt47

duke nukem time to kill has a better cover sytem than any third person shooter.

let me know when you can hang off a cliff with one hand  and shoot a pistol in the other hand.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Im not seeing a problem. That sounds pretty awesome. Desmonic

You really don't see the problem in consistency with the game, the story, the devs and the marketing telling you (and everyone else) that Lara is still young, innocent, it's the first time she'll face these problem, first time dealing with killing, etc, etc,... and then the gameplay being similar to UC/Gears in terms of mowing down enemies like it's nothing? Seeing cutscenes where she has emotional/mental problems touching a dead body, after you, in gameplay, killed dozens and dozens of enemies with shotguns and bows to the face, aka in a most violent way?...

It's not about the gameplay being good or not (for all I know it plays great) however there really is a problem with what they want to sell you, what they promote you and what you actually get in the game.

2013 - The year of killing series that we once loved.

2013 - The year of killing series that we once loved.

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

2013 - The year of killing series that we once loved.

mems_1224

Nah.

2013 - The year of killing series that we once loved.

ChubbyGuy40

let me know when you can hang off a cliff with one hand  and shoot a pistol in the other hand.nextgenjoke

You never played the Uncharted games?

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

2013 - The year of killing series that we once loved.

mems_1224

youre high strung and extra defensive today...

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

 

You really don't see the problem in consistency with the game, the story, the devs and the marketing telling you (and everyone else) that Lara is still young, innocent, it's the first time she'll face these problem, first time dealing with killing, etc, etc,... and then the gameplay being similar to UC/Gears in terms of mowing down enemies like it's nothing? Seeing cutscenes where she has emotional/mental problems touching a dead body, after you, in gameplay, killed dozens and dozens of enemies with shotguns and bows to the face, aka in a most violent way?...

 

It's not about the gameplay being good or not (for all I know it plays great) however there really is a problem with what they want to sell you, what they promote you and what you actually get in the game.

Stringerboy

Actually that sounds quite interesting.

Indeed. Much more satisfying.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

They could have replaced Lara with Nathan Drake and this would have looked exactly like Uncharted

Desmonic

What I've been saying since E3 2012. They took too much UC/Gears into it, needlessly IMO. At least, there is still exploration and whatnot. 

So taking one 10 minute video featuring an isolated moment in the story accounts for the entire gameplay experience now?
I mean, it's not like other videos have been shown or anything like that. When have we seen gameplay like this in Uncharted? ;)

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As for Lara's progression from her first kill, do we really know what time frame this 10 minute video takes place in relation to the first kill? 5 minutes later? 3 hours? Do you see what I'm driving at? From a collection of separate and isolated clips we don't have the progressive sequence of the story from one moment to the next in how events build up and shape Lara.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to expect the most poignant or provacative character development here. You don't really get that from most games compared to other media like film and books, where they have to manage their story pacing along with the gameplay pacing. I mean seriously, just how long do you think they can languish on Lara trauma before things have to move forward for the players gaming experience to advance onward.

But the fact that they're even going into the event having an impact on the main protaginist at all is still more character development than most games get into for the medium. It just seems to me that from individual plot moments that have been shown in disconnected sequence, most people here are far too quick to rush to judgement without stopping to consider the context of sequence of chronological events.

^ That damage control LOL

^ That damage control LOL

Speedzilla

That denial ;)

Man, lot o' hate for the game in this thread.  I thought it looked cool.  Granted, it seems to have borrowed heavily from Uncharted, but I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing.

Man, lot o' hate for the game in this thread.  I thought it looked cool.  Granted, it seems to have borrowed heavily from Uncharted, but I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing.

clone01

it's the samething they did we splinter cell turned it into a gears of war clone lol we havent seen anymore after that.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

 

You really don't see the problem in consistency with the game, the story, the devs and the marketing telling you (and everyone else) that Lara is still young, innocent, it's the first time she'll face these problem, first time dealing with killing, etc, etc,... and then the gameplay being similar to UC/Gears in terms of mowing down enemies like it's nothing? Seeing cutscenes where she has emotional/mental problems touching a dead body, after you, in gameplay, killed dozens and dozens of enemies with shotguns and bows to the face, aka in a most violent way?...

 

It's not about the gameplay being good or not (for all I know it plays great) however there really is a problem with what they want to sell you, what they promote you and what you actually get in the game.

Stringerboy

Actually that sounds quite interesting.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

What I've been saying since E3 2012. They took too much UC/Gears into it, needlessly IMO. At least, there is still exploration and whatnot. 

So taking one 10 minute video featuring an isolated moment in the story accounts for the entire gameplay experience now?
I mean, it's not like other videos have been shown or anything like that. When have we seen gameplay like this in Uncharted? ;)

IGN 1hr feed

IGN The Tombs of Tomb Raider

As for Lara's progression from her first kill, do we really know what time frame this 10 minute video takes place in relation to the first kill? 5 minutes later? 3 hours? Do you see what I'm driving at? From a collection of separate and isolated clips we don't have the progressive sequence of the story from one moment to the next in how events build up and shape Lara.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to expect the most poignant or provacative character development here. You don't really get that from most games compared to other media like film and books, where they have to manage their story pacing along with the gameplay pacing. I mean seriously, just how long do you think they can languish on Lara trauma before things have to move forward for the players gaming experience to advance onward.

But the fact that they're even going into the event having an impact on the main protaginist at all is still more character development than most games get into for the medium. It just seems to me that from individual plot moments that have been shown in disconnected sequence, most people here are far too quick to rush to judgement without stopping to consider the context of sequence of chronological events.

Oh please Adobe. I know you're a big TR fan, I know that already. However your argument would work well with trailers, no 10 minutes of gameplay and not even with that 1 hour livestream.

Yes there still is exploration, which I did mention, however even that 1 hour video shows Lara mowing down enemies like it's nothing, just like one would do in Uncharted or Gears. Really, tell me that if you replaced Lara with Drake, would he seem out of place at all? At best it would seem kinda weird that you would be doing so much exploring with Drake in between "UC/Gears/TPS like segments".

And like I said in following posts they could really have done much more than that to go with the survival theme and keep it a TR game.

I'm at the point I WISH I'M WRONG with all of this, but the more the dev's show the more it seems I'm completely right.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

What I've been saying since E3 2012. They took too much UC/Gears into it, needlessly IMO. At least, there is still exploration and whatnot. 

Desmonic

So taking one 10 minute video featuring an isolated moment in the story accounts for the entire gameplay experience now?
I mean, it's not like other videos have been shown or anything like that. When have we seen gameplay like this in Uncharted? ;)

IGN 1hr feed

IGN The Tombs of Tomb Raider

As for Lara's progression from her first kill, do we really know what time frame this 10 minute video takes place in relation to the first kill? 5 minutes later? 3 hours? Do you see what I'm driving at? From a collection of separate and isolated clips we don't have the progressive sequence of the story from one moment to the next in how events build up and shape Lara.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to expect the most poignant or provacative character development here. You don't really get that from most games compared to other media like film and books, where they have to manage their story pacing along with the gameplay pacing. I mean seriously, just how long do you think they can languish on Lara trauma before things have to move forward for the players gaming experience to advance onward.

But the fact that they're even going into the event having an impact on the main protaginist at all is still more character development than most games get into for the medium. It just seems to me that from individual plot moments that have been shown in disconnected sequence, most people here are far too quick to rush to judgement without stopping to consider the context of sequence of chronological events.

Oh please Adobe. I know you're a big TR fan, I know that already. However your argument would work well with trailers, no 10 minutes of gameplay and not even with that 1 hour livestream.

Yes there still is exploration, which I did mention, however even that 1 hour video shows Lara mowing down enemies like it's nothing, just like one would do in Uncharted or Gears. Really, tell me that if you replaced Lara with Drake, would he seem out of place at all? At best it would seem kinda weird that you would be doing so much exploring with Drake in between "UC/Gears/TPS like segments".

And like I said in following posts they could really have done much more than that to go with the survival theme and keep it a TR game.

I'm at the point I WISH I'M WRONG with all of this, but the more the dev's show the more it seems I'm completely right.

Maybe my main point got mired in the swamp of text. But can you really say people aren't just rushing to assumptions here? In one video we see Lara dealing with her first kill. This has a different sequence, and yes with lots of killing. BUT, can you, I, or anybody really know what time frame this takes place in after that first kill, or what happened in between? Anybody got the answer to this? Anybody at all?

The whole point of this story is that Lara is supposed to evolve, she's supposed to grow through her experiences that she becomes more capable of taking care of herself, and by extension combating enemies - as she was always capable of in previous games that took place when she was already developed. We've seen moments of weakness and fear, and moments of ass kicking, yet this is an journey of A to Z, that the person she is at the end isn't the same as who she was at the beginning.

The only thing we're missing is the pacing of how that progression develops over the course of the actual real time gameplay experience. Which as I've been saying you can't get from isolated and disconnected clips speckling moments from here and there.

Man, lot o' hate for the game in this thread.  I thought it looked cool.  Granted, it seems to have borrowed heavily from Uncharted, but I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing.

clone01

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Im not seeing a problem. That sounds pretty awesome. mems_1224

You really don't see the problem in consistency with the game, the story, the devs and the marketing telling you (and everyone else) that Lara is still young, innocent, it's the first time she'll face these problem, first time dealing with killing, etc, etc,... and then the gameplay being similar to UC/Gears in terms of mowing down enemies like it's nothing? Seeing cutscenes where she has emotional/mental problems touching a dead body, after you, in gameplay, killed dozens and dozens of enemies with shotguns and bows to the face, aka in a most violent way?...

It's not about the gameplay being good or not (for all I know it plays great) however there really is a problem with what they want to sell you, what they promote you and what you actually get in the game.

What other series is being killed?DarkLink77

DMC, Tomb Raider, Dead Space 3 embraced the actiony routes, Crysis 3 continues down the wrong path, TESO, Rainbow 6 Patriots, XCOM is an abomination, Aliens will be a disappointment, Splinter Cell looks like sh!t, SimCity (while still looking incredibly fun) is shallow compared to previous entries. That's all I can think of atm.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]What other series is being killed?ChubbyGuy40

DMC, Tomb Raider, Dead Space 3 embraced the actiony routes, Crysis 3 continues down the wrong path, TESO, Rainbow 6 Patriots, XCOM is an abomination, Aliens will be a disappointment, Splinter Cell looks like sh!t, SimCity (while still looking incredibly fun) is shallow compared to previous entries. That's all I can think of atm.