Tomb Raider completely unoptimized on PC - DON'T BUY IT

Sad to see this unoptimized piece of trash on the top selling game on Steam. It seems like gamers have still not learned their lesson. Good thing we have Steam refunds now. Upon watching the Digital Foundry analysis we can see this game is running like crap and should not be supported until it is fixed.

Is it really that bad?

I'm seeing 60 FPS for the GTX970. How is this bad ?

Sorry to hear but..... Xbox Won. :P

DAMN !!! Is it bad as AK and Unity ???

It has delay input so no >:(

That is Xbox One settings and don't forget that is with an i7 CPU

Yes, but it doesn't seem to matter what CPU you have. Even RAM is no different in lower settings or higher settings. This game taxes the GPU.

I see an incredible looking game running at 60 FPS on a great graphics card. Again: how is this bad ? I don't get this thread.

That's what happens when you try to copy the power of xbox one

I fail to see the problem here >.<

No you haven't watched the video the CPU does matter and 60 FPS on Xbox One settings is not good at all if you don't understand this then maybe you don't know tech

Hahahahahahaha, And that's before StormCloud Powah kicks in later this year..... Thanks for playing along. :P

lol good one

Parity, what is it good for?

Yeah, that must be it.

Great discussion, dude !

There is none.

What are you on about? The game gets 55fps at max settings on a 970 with day 1 drivers with purehair and HBAO+ enabled. The Xbox One looks closer to medium settings at 30fps and the purehair effect is a step below the max purehair on PC. It also has no HBAO+.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Rise-of-the-Tomb-Raider-Spiel-54451/Specials/Grafikkarten-Benchmarks-1184288/

With Very High Purehair+HBAO+ and all settings cranked up a notch higher, the Xbox One would struggle to hit 15fps.

Dumb thread is dumb. It was widely known that gtx970 can't max out the game. The fps drops that you see on the video it's when you try to put maximum settings, which can only Gtx 980 ti do. So if you stick to high presets you will get smooth 60 fps. Hell even Gtx 780 can run this game at 1440p and 60 fps on high preset.

Secondly, wait for optimization patches. It's just day 1 performance, which isn't bad, by the way, if we remember that Tomb Raider 1 had huge problems on Nvidia cards with Tress Fx on

It also has no shadows for the vegetation, which PC even has on lowest settings.

It also has very weak anisotropic filtering, while PC version can do 16x AF without breaking a sweat

and the list goes on and on and on.

it's the shitworks that tank performance and besides the 970 has the well known vram issues

TR requires over 4gigs of vram for max textures

Nope. It's graphically demanding, not un-optimized. Obviously performance will increase with subsequent patches, but you made the thread as if it's some arkham knight job... not even close.

As I understand it, the game has a lot of graphics settings that are way ahead of their time. It's incredibly demanding on max settings & it justifies the current performance. This is a good thing. It's good to see devs actually utilizing the platforms potential & future proofing graphical settings. Not everyone needs to max the game out immediately.

The game is unoptimized that's all I'm saying and what you are saying shows a different performance to what DF is saying I trust DF they have shown the game dropping to 30 frames on a 970/390 and i7 at 1080p.

The game looks enjoyable to me. I don't care too much about the technical side of things as I imagine even mediumish settings will look just fine. Of course my MSI GTX 970 won't have to settle for quite those settings but I wouldn't turn my nose up at them.

Denuvo does impact performance but I think its exaggerated just how much. Games from all ages have had performance issues here and there. Denuvo is essentially a real time encryption protocol so it will have some impact but as mentioned, the impact is being overstated by a few here. Engines are iterated upon so much between games. So just because the first game didn't have any issues doesn't mean the second games issues are solely due to a new DRM. New effects and techniques can be just as guilty if not more so.

970 gets 55-60 fps on max

How is that bad?

It'll get better in time. For now the performance is pretty decent on a wide range of cards with very good visuals at frame rates closing in on 60fps on a 970. It can only go up from here.

if you ran the game at Xbone setting, it'd run at 200fps. But no one wants more jaggies on the screen than pixels.

I tried running it on PS4 at the absolute lowest setting and got 0 fps so, just sayin. :P

at least the screen wasn't filled with eye destroying jaggies.

UnrealGunner firing all blanks here...nothing to see.

Regardless of whether or not the port is actually shit.

I never had any intention to buy a poor man's clone of a poor man's video game.

Why is this surprising? The game will run like crap on bad specs? The game looks great if you got the right specs for it.

@unrealgunner: People like you man... What if this was a accident ? What if it will be fixed next week. Even if your right and this was . Poorly rushed. Wait a little before you bash it super quick and definite. Sheesh

Those companies made me hate buying games early. It's always good to wait for the patched versions.

They didn't even fix the Xbone version.

I see no issue.

Too late...and I will be enjoying the Lara Croft double dip.

"Can the GTX 970 and R9 390 handle Rise of the Tomb Raider maxed at 1080p60? The answer's no - this game is demanding, trashing our budget PC on console equivalent settings. You'll need a quad-core processor and a GTX 960 to beat the Xbox One experience, and GTX 970 to hit 1080p60."

So .... nonsense troll OP?

Rather than bashing the PC version I think the OP is overlooking how well optimized this game has been made for the Xbox One, it was the lead platform in development and the results of that are obviously showing.

My game is unpacking right now and I'm going to do some benchmarking shortly, I will report my findings here when complete.

Impossible from what some hermits told me games never came in a unoptimized form on consoles so if the game cant hit 60 at 1080p (lol) is because PC cant handle it...

Thta is what some hermits told me when i question some games that had bad performance compara even to weaker hardware.

It's not un-optimized. OP is overreacting. Just don't turn on any Nvidia specific setting even if you have an Nvidia card.

who?

I'll be playing it in 5 minutes with my 970 and i5 3570k overclocked, will see what kind of performance, of course I'm realistic and don't expect to get 60fps maxed, the 970 card is a very cheap card coming in at half the cost of the top of the line cards, for what it is, it is amazing and cant be beat price/performance.

This thread is pretty bad.

I'm not saying it's unoptimized on PC, I'm just saying the Xbox One version was the lead development platform, as a result it's going to be greatly more optimized than any version that follows.

PC cannot be optimized to the same degree as a game on a console can, especially one financially backed by an origination with development being done on their development kit. This is a shining example of a game being extremely fine tuned for the Xbox One hardware and that could shed some negative light on the PC for its inability to be optimized to the same degree, that's all I'm saying, nothing more.

Game will be loaded up in about two minutes, I'll let you all know how it handles.

I've been playing this game with a GTX970 since Monday and the TC is full of nonsense, I can't quite max it but given how stunning the game looks this isn't surprising. It looks and runs great on near-max settings (including Very High textures), don't listen to this lunatic.

That's not really true considering The Witcher 3 and GTA V's performance on entry level GPUs like the 750ti and R7 260x compared to PS4. "Optimization" isn't a magic spell that fixes all your problems. Hardware has physical limitations that no software will overcome.

Ok so with my 970 paired with a 3750k opening mountain gameplay with everything totally maxed, I mean every setting the highest it goes, it bounces between 27-45fps, not too bad for that card, very very un-realistic to expect better with those settings so Im extremely happy, I could cap it at 30fps and only go under a few times, but I will lower some settings and go for 60fps.

I knew some rabid X-fan would be the only one to actually agree with the troll OP.

900p, 30fps and input lag is a terrible showing for the "lead platform".

PC version is a fantastic job by Nixxes, again. They know their stuff.

It's not running at 900p, it's 1920x1080 @ 30 FPS, also I'm not agreeing with anything he said, just that PC is obviously going to be less optimized in general than a console game for obvious reasons.

Go be a cow somewhere else.

Here are my results from the entire first part of the game on the mountain, the game runs perfectly fine, great actually. My settings are completely maxed out like yours, I am running 2560x1440, 2600k @ 4.4Ghz and a single 290X at factory clocks.

• 2016-01-28 09:33:43 - ROTTR
• Frames: 21424 -
• Time: 534938ms -
• Avg: 40.05 -
• Min: 27.04 -
• Max: 68.07 -

That's not "running like crap". The game is very graphic intensive. It's actually pushing the cards quite a bit.

The difference of detail between the Xbox One version and PC version seems subtle on the surface, but the PC version is running at double the framerate, has much more intensive post-processing (HBAO+), much better shadows, and fully utilizing tessellations which is requiring pumping out hundreds of thousands of more triangles per scene.

We've come to a point in gaming where more power is going to only really increase the graphics in subtle ways. The PS4 and Xbox One are capeable of some pretty damn good graphics themselves. They aren't nearly as powerful as a PC, but you don't need a high powered PC to make good looking games today. Graphics are one of those things that eventually get "good enough" with X amount of power. Hell some could argue we hit that last gen, which is partly why so many people are underwhelmed by this gen. They were expecting a graphical leap that was never going to happen because we've hit the limits of rasterization in general. Even the best PC looking games don't look head-and-shoulders better than the best looking console games because the amount of processing power required to do the more advanced rendering techniques is exponential. Just because you're hardware is 5x more powerful doesn't mean your game is going to look 5x better.

This is happening in Tomb Raider. Just to get the subtle extra details and crisper rendering of the PC version to run at 1080p60 you need exponentially better hardware.

@Dire_Weasel: It's 1080P.

Digital foundry disagrees

Ultimately, the PC version of Rise of the Tomb Raider is a great product - albeit one with higher system requirements than one might expect. It's a beautiful game with plenty of built-in flexibility, but those planning to max out settings on anything other than the latest generation hardware are likely to run into performance issuess. The Xbox One version of the game was clearly optimised to operate at its best on a closed platform and as such, it's not actually possible to fuly duplicate console settings here. The closest match requires a meaty system to get the job done - an i5 quad with something along the lines of a GTX 960 to hit 1080p30 on high settings.

When running on faster hardware, the results are certainly more in line with expectations and it becomes possible to produce visuals that greatly exceed the already beautiful Xbox One version of the game. That's not to say there aren't still issues here - for instance, the icy tree branches used throughout the game suffer from shimmering that has proven almost impossible to eliminate, but it still feels like a solid port.

Overall, Rise of the Tomb Raider is an excellent game with a greater focus on exploration punctuated with well-designed battles - battles which play even better on the PC due to faster input response and higher frame-rates. Nixxes has produced a solid version of the game that takes great advantage of the PC platform - just make sure your hardware is ready to be pushed.