Tomb Raider @ 60fps on PS4, 18fps drops on XB1

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#151 Edited by AtariKidX (6202 posts) -

PS4....better and cheaper.Superior console superior games. Definitive console definitive games.

PS4 is the future and the future is the PS4.

#152 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (1971 posts) -

PS4....better and cheaper.Superior console superior games. Definitive console definitive games.

PS4 is the future and the future is the PS4.

Nope, PS4 100x weaker than PC.

So you lost

#153 Posted by lostrib (33039 posts) -

@AtariKidX said:

PS4....better and cheaper.Superior console superior games. Definitive console definitive games.

PS4 is the future and the future is the PS4.

Nope, PS4 100x weaker than PC.

So you lost

when did the PC become a console?

#154 Edited by hoosier7 (3773 posts) -

Oh dear.

No surprise though, think it might be nearing the time to accept the X1 is just the weaker set of hardware.

#155 Posted by bbkkristian (14891 posts) -

It's sad that cows are going to buy this game because their system is so lackluster on games. They deserve better from Square, scratch that, we all do.

#156 Edited by lglz1337 (3114 posts) -

bonaire gaming is the best hahaha

#157 Posted by emgesp (2041 posts) -

Damn, Microsoft can't catch a break. That's what you get when you focus too much on TV and Sports. Who the hell will want to play the inferior port on the more expensive console?

#158 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

@timbers_WSU said:

Both versions have fluctuating frame rates. Learn to fucking read.

Only ones fluctuating below 30 frames, lol.

DAAAAAAAAAAMN! Such ownage!

TLHBO

#159 Edited by StrongBlackVine (8418 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@AtariKidX said:

PS4....better and cheaper.Superior console superior games. Definitive console definitive games.

PS4 is the future and the future is the PS4.

Nope, PS4 100x weaker than PC.

So you lost

when did the PC become a console?

#160 Edited by StrongBlackVine (8418 posts) -
@bbkkristian said:

It's sad that cows are going to buy this game because their system is so lackluster on games. They deserve better from Square, scratch that, we all do.

How is this any different than people wanting a PS4 version of TLOU or GTA5? Don't hate. It's not like Xflop owners have anything to play. I guess some hardcore racing fans might still be playing Forza 5, but Dead Rising 3 and Ryse don't exactly have long legs.

Xboners and PS4 owners are both spending the majority of their time playing COD, BF4, Madden and NBA 2K14...with PS4 have the superior version of each game.

#161 Posted by sukraj (21806 posts) -

flopzone

#162 Posted by PinkiePirate (2086 posts) -

No surprise there.

#163 Edited by Renegade311 (334 posts) -

I'm assuming they'll patch it like Capcom did Dead Rising 3 so both versions will have a locked frame rate. Still If I want to play this game I'll get the definitive version on the PC for 8 bucks on the next Steam sale.

#164 Posted by gpuking (2712 posts) -

@AtariKidX said:

PS4....better and cheaper.Superior console superior games. Definitive console definitive games.

PS4 is the future and the future is the PS4.

Nope, PS4 100x weaker than PC.

So you lost

If you have a PC that's 100x stronger then I'll send you $100 with a formal apology.

#165 Edited by btk2k2 (351 posts) -

This is something I have been saying since before the systems were released but Stormy, Ron etc did not really want to listen. I said developers would be on a scale, some would use the additional power in the PS4 to improve graphics (COD 720p vs 1080p), some would slightly improve graphics and also slightly improve frame rate (BF4 720p vs 900p with a 10FPS advantage) and others would go for graphical parity but better frame rates (Tomb Raider 30fps vs 60fps).

To be honest though I thought the differences would be more like 900p vs 1080p for pure graphical differences (more like ACIV Black Flag) than they are in the majority of games. There will also be exceptions where the games are pretty much the same such as sports titles or indies but that will always be the best case scenario for the Xbox 1.

I hate to say it but to those lems who would not listen. I told you so.

#166 Edited by Crossel777 (5593 posts) -

Xbone can't even run last gen games.

#167 Edited by quatoe (5664 posts) -

I'm sure it ran better than that on the 360.

I love your avatar and sig. Captain Malcolm Reynolds. I salute that man.

#168 Posted by Shielder7 (5048 posts) -

No one if going to buy Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition to tell the difference anyway.

#169 Posted by _Matt_ (8836 posts) -

Eh can't say I care,

Have fun though cows, after having an entire gen of slightly inferior multiplatform games and being reminded of it by lems at every opportunity, you have earned the right to do it back at them this gen.

#170 Posted by freedomfreak (38688 posts) -

#171 Edited by AtariKidX (6202 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@AtariKidX said:

PS4....better and cheaper.Superior console superior games. Definitive console definitive games.

PS4 is the future and the future is the PS4.

Nope, PS4 100x weaker than PC.

So you lost

PC it is not a console and also there is not a PC 100x stronger than PS4.The only PC who they are stronger than PS4 they are cost 2000euro+.

#172 Posted by KillzoneSnake (1672 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@goatcheese11 said:

If true I think this speaks more on the laziness of the developers rather than the capabilities of the X1.

Rofl... No. The Xbone version probably received the most attention. It's the PS4 version that's unoptimized. Just imagine if PS4 games got the attention Xbone games did. They'd make Xbone look like a PS2.

If AC4: Black Flag can look comprable on both X1 and PS4 then theres no reason a game such as Tomb Raider cannot, again unless the developers are just lazy.

AC4 doesnt show anything of what x1 or ps4 can do so idk why you comparing it.

#173 Edited by lglz1337 (3114 posts) -
#174 Posted by CrashNBurn281 (391 posts) -

The Xbox One is going to be harder to code for with its architecture. This sounds like lazy developing to me. A minimalistic approach with no effort to try and maximize profits.

Mark Cerny's approach to the PS4 development is proving to be a more effective approach to design of a console. Easier to code from the get go.

Will be interesting to see how this generation plays out.

#175 Posted by hoosier7 (3773 posts) -

@goatcheese11 said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@goatcheese11 said:

If true I think this speaks more on the laziness of the developers rather than the capabilities of the X1.

Rofl... No. The Xbone version probably received the most attention. It's the PS4 version that's unoptimized. Just imagine if PS4 games got the attention Xbone games did. They'd make Xbone look like a PS2.

If AC4: Black Flag can look comprable on both X1 and PS4 then theres no reason a game such as Tomb Raider cannot, again unless the developers are just lazy.

AC4 doesnt show anything of what x1 or ps4 can do so idk why you comparing it.

Plus the PS4 is still superior with AC4 according to DF.

"On that note it's clear that the PS4 game is the definitive release of Assassin's Creed 4 on the console formats."

"Despite its failings in image quality and some occasional drops in performance, the Xbox One version still delivers a worthy upgrade over the 360, PS3, and Wii U versions for owners of Microsoft's new console, although we hope that the unsightly sharpening filter can be disabled on system-wide level in a future update."

#176 Edited by lglz1337 (3114 posts) -

@hoosier7: owned

lemmings suicide in this thread is amazing

i am enjoying it obviously

#177 Edited by spicymeatball27 (64 posts) -

Sooo theres actually idiots out there willing to fork over $60 Full Price for a game that came out a year ago lol which looks like it might be judging by how this thread is already 4 pages lol. At least square will get more money off of poor saps that are going to buy the same game In which they probably already got a Platinum on it & such. Sad since the game is already $15 new at Gamestop & theres nothing new in the Fraud Edition of TR but at least Square will be blushing knowing how much attention there Fraud Edition is getting lol

#178 Edited by silversix_ (13888 posts) -

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is too good

#179 Posted by Wickerman777 (1131 posts) -

Get a kick out of how the op titled this ... 30 fps on X1 with dips. He goes on to say that the PS4 version sometimes dips below 60 fps but then follows that up by saying the PS4 version is a solid 60 fps, lol. Just be honest and say that it's approximately 30 fps on X1 and approximately 60 fps on PS4. No need for the extra spin.

While I am surprised they're not able to do more with the X1 version than they have it doesn't surprise me at all that the PS4 version is technically better. That extra 600 tflops does make a difference.

#180 Edited by Wickerman777 (1131 posts) -
@crashnburn281 said:

The Xbox One is going to be harder to code for with its architecture. This sounds like lazy developing to me. A minimalistic approach with no effort to try and maximize profits.

Mark Cerny's approach to the PS4 development is proving to be a more effective approach to design of a console. Easier to code from the get go.

Will be interesting to see how this generation plays out.

Yeah, MS screwed up the design of X1 bigtime. Devs are struggling using the ESRAM in the way MS intended and the GPU is nowhere near where it should have been.

#181 Edited by lglz1337 (3114 posts) -
#182 Edited by hippiesanta (9757 posts) -

B bBBbbbbb but 30 fps is like a standard hollywood movies

#183 Edited by Stringerboy (6923 posts) -
#184 Edited by silversix_ (13888 posts) -

Everyone ready for major nelson's damage control of the day? gonna be juiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicy haha

#185 Posted by shawn30 (4361 posts) -

Tomb Raider is a pretty damn good game, so at least this is a discussion over a game that is good. No doubt PS4 hardware is superior to Xbox One hardware, so you'll see things like this. Having said that, the tighter version is on the PS4. But its a good game and worth buying no matter where you get it. I'm a Frames per second guy so this matters. Id rather have it at 900p upscaled and hit that 60 fps more often on the Xbox One. Still, the average public aint gonna give a shit about this same way they don;'t for CoD or BF4. Still, early in the gen and things will get better. This is newsworthy though and for a good game, so its a feather in the PS4 cap. Not nearly enough to make me want to buy the system, but far from a bad thing either.

#186 Posted by Suppaman100 (3695 posts) -

Lems' reaction to the news in this thread:hahaha

Hahahahahaha! THIS

Look at that lemming meltdown!

#187 Posted by Suppaman100 (3695 posts) -

@sukraj said:

flopzone

@shawn30 said:

Tomb Raider is a pretty damn good game, so at least this is a discussion over a game that is good. No doubt PS4 hardware is superior to Xbox One hardware, so you'll see things like this. Having said that, the tighter version is on the PS4. But its a good game and worth buying no matter where you get it. I'm a Frames per second guy so this matters. Id rather have it at 900p upscaled and hit that 60 fps more often on the Xbox One. Still, the average public aint gonna give a shit about this same way they don;'t for CoD or BF4. Still, early in the gen and things will get better. This is newsworthy though and for a good game, so its a feather in the PS4 cap. Not nearly enough to make me want to buy the system, but far from a bad thing either.

Come on guys, you can do better damage control than that now.

#188 Edited by tormentos (16730 posts) -

Everyone complains that the xb1 can't run 1080p games, it then does, and then you complain about the framerate. Even though its @30fps, which if you are console gamer, you've been playing at that since you probably started gaming. Seems like most of you complain just to complain.

The xbox one can run any game at 1080p,problem is with what accepts,i have say this many times,most of the games running at 1080p are either racing or sports,in Tomb Raider case is not that demanding,and is not first person shooter is a 3rd person one.

The xbox one can run at the same 1080p at the same quality the problem is the PS4 version will run faster ,in FPS engines which is more intense,the xbox one doesn't achieve yet even 900p,they could hit 1080p but the disparity in frames would probably be to great and imagine quality could also take a hit.

The reason Ghots is 720p is because at 1080p it doesn't get any were near 60 PFS,i say not every where near because it if did a 900p version would be possible yet they went for the lower 720p.

Both versions have fluctuating frame rates. Learn to fucking read.

And the damage control begins..

The Xbox One build can technically reach around 45 fps, though this performance is generally only achieved during the most empty, simplest environments. For most of your play, and during action scenes, the Xbox One build will sit on around 30 fps. On the other hand, the PlayStation 4 build will attempt to hit 60 fps as often as possible, and does a pretty good job of doing so, but does have slight dips under 60 fps during certain scenarios.

So yeah the PS4 version runs most of the times at 60FPS the xbox one version runs at 30FS most of the times,it is you who can't read.

If AC4: Black Flag can look comprable on both X1 and PS4 then theres no reason a game such as Tomb Raider cannot, again unless the developers are just lazy.

AC4 is not 1080p on xbox one is 900p,the PS4 version is 1080p has better image quality better AA,and is steady 30FPS,the xbox one version has dips under 30 to 26FPS in several instances.

#189 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (6038 posts) -

According to Cows the X1 cant do 1080p. Wasn't Forza just a fluke? LOL.

Just a reminder that KZ:SF claims to be 60fps but is anything but.

#190 Posted by tormentos (16730 posts) -

Those links are older than this info.

And isn't that what you people say when it was leak that Ghost was 1080p vs 720p on xbox one.?

Lets wait for a valid source,how long do you think MS can stop this things from been known.?

alot of this on gaf

http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767 @50:35 he says ps4 version runs at 1080/60fps (scott amos)

Hahaha the father of the whole Secret sauce doing some fine DC..

Poor Arthur Gies.. BF4 isn't lock on any platform nor is Ghost,and most of the xbox one games either.

oh gaf

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Poor Major nelson.

#191 Edited by BlessedChill (676 posts) -

Lems have some weak DC don't blame them.

#192 Posted by Giancar (19045 posts) -

This gen will be a massacre for Bone fanboys in SW.

Luckily for them, the re design came out and this site is dying.

#193 Posted by Sushiglutton (5197 posts) -

According to Cows the X1 cant do 1080p. Wasn't Forza just a fluke? LOL.

Just a reminder that KZ:SF claims to be 60fps but is anything but.

X1 can in principal do >120 FPS and 4k if the game is simple enough. However for most multiplats released so far the Ps4 beats X1 in either resolution or framerate by a factor 2.

#194 Posted by Giancar (19045 posts) -
#196 Posted by Sushiglutton (5197 posts) -
#197 Edited by silversix_ (13888 posts) -

@Giancar said:

This gen will be a massacre for Bone fanboys in SW.

Luckily for them, the re design came out and this site is dying.

its as dead as it gets right now, it won't die any further. its 'dead' but still hilarious, not as much as it once was (the epic days of halo 3/mgs4/wii haz no AAA in years) but still decently enjoyable

#198 Posted by tormentos (16730 posts) -

@blackace said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@blackace: son the truth is right in front of your eyes. Yes they said both games will run at 30 fps sometime ago, obviously to save face with MS. Now we have legitimate sources who have actually played the game, and the ps4 version runs at 60 fps. That's the way news works son, you have old news and then you have recent news that sometimes proves said old news wrong.

I'm not your son little boy. In anything I'm your Daddy. Get your ass to bed kid. I see 5 other sources that say otherwise. I haven't seen any links from Crystal Dynamic or SquareSoft that says anything differently. If it's coming from Reedit or SonyGaf, so one would believe them, but bias fanboys like yourself.

Call of Duty: Ghosts runs at 1080p and 60fps onXbox One and PS4

Call of Duty: Ghosts runs at 1080p resolution on Xbox One and PlayStation 4, Infinity Ward has said.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-call-of-duty-ghosts-runs-at-1080p-and-60fps-on-xbox-one-and-ps4

This should wake you up from that dream,we all know the end result 1080p only on PS4 720p on xbox one,just because it was confirmed to be 1080p 30FPS in both version doesn't mean it will be it already happen to Ghost which was confirmed to be 1080p on xbox one by Infinity Ward it self in June,and the PS4 has extra juice left in it,so if the xbox version is 1080p 30 FPS you can bet all you have the PS4 version can run faster.

So yeah your links are older than this news so yeah they don't refute this in any way.

Funny how Madden games last gen were 60 fps on 360 and 30 on PS3 yet no one cared back then. Btw even if this is true, I'm sure both consoles will reach parity eventually.

That was Madden 08 on a time where few developers could work with the extremely difficult to master PS3,by the way madden 2009 runs at 60 FPS so yeah,we know what happen last gen the PS3 was a pain in the ass to develop for,and had complicated hardware,the xbox one is a PC just like the PS4.

Yeah like BF4,AC4 and Ghost have reach parity right.?

I'd rather not have parity at the expense of better performing platform. I'm sure this initial turmoil will be put to bed eventually, since now X1 got better dev kits, overclock and hdd drivers update, etc. Anyway, I don't care about this so called definitive edition as I'm playing the game right now on my 360.

My god you can taste the tears on this post..hahahaha

MS did an over clock because the unit was performing even worse..lol

@lostrib said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@lostrib said:

it's an alpha...

Six weeks before release.

Face it, what you're seeing is what you're getting.

Except for that part where it's an alpha build of the game, meaning it's obviously not a complete build of the game

Alpha build my ass the game is close to launch and you believe is on Alpha stage,what you are seeing on Titanfall is what you will get,aside from a touch here and there don't expect that game to see any major upgrade,no game at 1 month an 2 week for launch is on Alpha,Killzone SF was alpha yeah 8 months from launch not 1.

#199 Edited by BlessedChill (676 posts) -

@Giancar: perfectly applicable to Shawn 30 and BlackAce

#200 Edited by Desmonic (13180 posts) -

Oh boy... the X1 just can't catch a break :P

Glad to see the "classic" SW threads from this past gen are still alive though!