TLOU Remastered Review Thread: 8/10 Gamespot

Its funny how this whole "how can someone be a decent human being after murdering a small nation of people " never came up once during her review of The New Tomb Raider, the new lara is just as blood thirsty,violent and vicious as Joel but some how Lara's love for her friends ( for whom she is doing all these horrible inhuman things for) is never once questioned not even once.

Well considering Carolyn personal history, woman killing a lot of guys = strong woman that is just a victim

man killing a lot of people to survive and protect Ellie= no no trigger warning, psychopath incapable of love, despicable being

Carolyn just lets her situation influence a lot her reviews, nothing personal against her but she is not fit for a reviewer.

Sort of funny to look at all the meltdowns in here. What were people really expecting? It's just a slightly upgraded GOTY edition. It's not like it magically became a 10.

I watched my friend play it last night. It's not the graphic jump that people acted like it would be. The AI still is rather slow in the head. Honestly other than the, blue box, the DLC being included and a little cleaner looking graphics it could be the PS3 game. Why should it get a dramatic boost in it's review score? Because it is an exclusive?

Anyway a review is just a person's opinion. If you don't like Caroline's opinion go to one of the sites that gave the game a 10 and read that review over and over to make yourself feel good.

@coasterguy65: but its not exclusive. I can play the game on ps3 and the multiplayer is free.

In a more sophisticated movie like Startrek: First Contact Picard attempts to make himself out as a intellectual to the black lady who looks like a boy. But she confounds him with a simple comparison and proves he is full of hate. Bringing him back to objective reasoning rather than emotionally reasoniningsg.

In Last Of Us, man with beard kills 1000 people to save Ellie Page knockoff.

In a more sophisticated movie like Startrek: First Contact Picard attempts to make himself out as a intellectual to the black lady who looks like a boy. But she confounds him with a simple comparison and proves he is full of hate. Bringing him back to objective reasoning rather than emotionally reasoniningsg.

In Last Of Us, man with beard kills 1000 people to save Ellie Page knockoff.

Welcome to the extremist transgender feminist agenda where ideologies such as this are ok.

Men are portrayed as monsters in film, television and games sometimes and don't say a word.

Lara Croft kills a whole island of ship wrecked for survival and it's ok.

Joel kills to survive and to protect an individual and he's an absolute monster.

Did it have official hype?

Was your mother on crack before she had you?

It's established in the story he kills people because he's annoyed about his daughter being dead.

My mother died. Shes dead. Shes dead and there's nothing I can do about it.

@delta3074: Also, No you are wrong, Opinions can be misguided but they cannot be wrong dude because our opinions are based on what we actually Know, you cannot say someones opinion is wrong if they are blessed with less than all the Facts, there opinion is based on the facts that they DO have.

Well said. That's what I meant earlier when I said an opinion about the moon being fake is ignorance, therefore cure the ignorance and the opinion is brought up to speed or just put to rest as it is a fact that the moon exists.

Funny, I don't remember lens going crazy that halo anniversary got an 8 when the original has a 97 on metacritic. Get over it. You like the game, I like the game. What more do you need to enjoy it?

Being a better thought out game with better design, Halflife 2 has the player kill monsters.

In Last Of Us, you kill human-beings and are expected to feel sorry for these pair of serial killers.

Depends on the situation, the only time it is acceptable is when your life is in danger and you are defending it or if someone elses life is in imminent danger, killing people to steal there food or resources is unacceptable in my view.

Either way it's Murder, it's about whether it's justified or not.

Believe me , i know a bit about it, i spent 6 years in the Army and served in two conflict Zones.

Soldiers are killers, end of, unfortunately we live in a world where the only thing capable of Protecting the innocent are Soldiers with guns.

Killing to survive is a grey area.

I once read a story about a Doctor who felt guilty Because he was captured by the taliban and he was given a choice, to slit the throats of several people lined up in front of him,including children, or take a bullet in the head, he chose to slit there throats.

Was he justified? in my book . No, i would take a bullet in the head before i would ever consider killing a child much less slit there throat as the method of killing them.

Is joel right to kill to survive and for his friends survival? That all depends on his attitude towards it, if he takes relish in the Act and kills with indifference then No, it is not justified, if he Kills only because he has too and he realises that it is still wrong but he has no choice then yes, he is justified.

In joels case things are even more confusing, some would say that the Only way to survive in a world like that is to become as hard and as Callous as the killers he is trying to defend himself from, he chooses to sell his soul to hell for the Attitude he needs to keep the people he love safe.

that was my justification for the things i did, i was prepared to sell my soul to Protect others from Evil men, even though that meant becoming the very men i chose to defend the innocent from, a dyed in the wool killer.

Brb, I'm part of the problem.

Notasinglefuk given. I also already had the season pass with all the DLC for the original game.

I think in a world like that right and wrong goes out the window. You only have people you can trust and people you can't.

The people who thinking about morals and right and wrong are probably all dead already, those who are left and are definitely not trust worthy so you are better off avoiding or killing them if you have to which is pretty much how this game is.

So 2 hours in...........so amazing.

The game swallows you from the beginning. The 2 hrs felt like 10mns, had to take a break.

So glad i took the day off and i look forward to reviewing this.

@StrongDeadlift said:

Brb, I'm part of the problem.

Notasinglefuk given. I also already had the season pass with all the DLC for the original game.

yes you are. could've gotten the game for $25 if u traded the old copy in.

@handssss said:

@StrongDeadlift said:

Brb, I'm part of the problem.

Notasinglefuk given. I also already had the season pass with all the DLC for the original game.

yes you are. could've gotten the game for $25 if u traded the old copy in.

No he isn't. I'm doing the same thing. I love my PS3 version.

@vitonemesis said:

@handssss said:

@StrongDeadlift said:

Brb, I'm part of the problem.

Notasinglefuk given. I also already had the season pass with all the DLC for the original game.

yes you are. could've gotten the game for $25 if u traded the old copy in.

No he isn't. I'm doing the same thing. I love my PS3 version.

You love a disc in a plastic cover?

Sorry meant a PS exclusive..

That's just the motive of why it's wrong. It's wrong because he/she didn't know better (or simply doesn't want to know better), but it doesn't stop it from being wrong. It only stops being wrong after it gets corrected.

I just watched a video (linky) where two dudes discuss how Sonic came to be and whether his games were great to begin with; at a given point (several actually, whenever they show gameplay) one of the points they make is that in complement with the issue of having a very small forward screen space (from Sonic until the edge of the TV) the game gives you "no way" of avoiding enemies. It is however well known that Sonic can roll, and while doing so he kills the enemies in his path (most of them at least). One can also jump of course, but that requires faster reflexes/knowing what is ahead, thus rolling is the better option for newcomers.

So once again, we have a "wrong opinion". Be it by lack of research or willingly trying to get their own point across (that Sonic games were flawed from the start, etc) they have a factually wrong opinion/stance of this particular issue (and there were some other "iffy" issues in the rest of the video).

Sure, after being informed or learning said move they may change their opinion, but they were still wrong.

Opinions based on facts/information that can be objectively proven correct or wrong can (and many times will) be wrong. It's just how it is. The ones that can't be wrong are the "Oh, I know it's good/bad but I still like/don't like it" kind. Then again, the nature of those is incompatible with the binary nature of being "wrong or right", as they aren't about proving anything but merely remarking ones personal taste on something.

Is this your first time playing it?

Cause if so, enjoy the mothafvcking thrilling ride. The game is a blast from the beginning to its absolute end.

People throw around the word opinion around like it's nothing. A opinion is a point of view of something (or question) whether you have 100% facts towards something or 0% facts. While opinions are basically just a point of view on something, people can ether agree, disagree, and even be right or wrong depending on how a opinion is used.

"Phil the lawyer tells his defendant in his opinion, robbing banks and going on a murder spree is ok" = a opinion that is wrong

"Timmy says in his opinion -insert game name- is his favorite game" = a opinion you can agree with or disagree with

"Doctor Tom tells his patient in his opinion he should eat healthier or his patient can die from high cholesterol" = a opinion that is correct

Yes, very first time.

I waiting for the PS4 version which we all knew was coming.

I managed to avoid reviews, lets plays, twitch gameplay, and all gameplay videos for a year because i knew the game was very story driven and didnt want to ruin it.

So far its paying off. The opening hour alone was gripping.

So far its hard to stop playing. Going back, its hard to see how someone could play on PS3 with all the jaggies and jagged shadows. Saw some gameplay and comparisons and OMG it was terrible. So glad i waited.

There are going to be moments so unique will pretty much get you (maybe) spoiled from the story side of video games. The good part is that, at least for me, there's a good deal of replayability after the game ends with crafting and upgrading Ellie/Joel. And there's the Left Behind segment (which I haven't played) thats been praised to hell and back. Make sure you don't miss that.

Nonetheless, the overall best part is that the gameplay along with the animations, looks and feels fantastic.

I hate myself for not playing the multiplayer when I Redboxed it since I hear its pretty special and basically cut from a different cloth the rest.

The game is just amazeballs in its entirety, man. The Hype was very well meet and deserved. The feeling of experiencing the game for the first time is unparalleled, feeling pretty envious here :P

In what sense is Phil's lawyer speaking? Ok meaning not against the law, (which makes it a lie not a true opinion since he is a lawyer) God, (he may not believe in God) or saying his client will satisfy his urges and Phil doesn't care what the legal repercussions are for his client?

Timmy states his opinion, never claims it is factually correct since its entertainment and that is subjective.

What the Dr. tells his patient is phrased with the word opinion but medical research has proven high cholesterol clogs arteries resulting in cardiac arrest and death. Seems like a warning from a professional of what has been proven to happen in the case of what the patient is doing to himself.

In the end we on this board more often than not are discussing what Timmy does, entertainment. And in that realm it is subjective. So Carol or whoever's opinion of TLOU isn't wrong. It may be unpopular but it isn't wrong. We all want to believe there is this way things are supposed to be, but that isn't reality.

Why didnt you buy it? lol

Im playing the left behind part after the main story so i dont risk any spoilers....even though it is a prequel.

Yes, the animations are great, especially in 60fps mode.

Art direction is superb and the dialogue is unmatched. Just the little touches like the back and forth between characters as you explore the environment to the way NPCs start talking to you when you walk close to them and you have an actual organic conversation about what is going on and even how they are doing. Its crazy

There's more to Carolyns review if you read her BS twitter about Joel being a homicidal lunatic, which is kinda ironic cause she reviewed the Tomb Raider reboot which Lara goes on a killing rampage as well, which she had no issues with which is kinda sexist....

With a lot of GS reviews specially Tom's and Carolyns they put a lot of obscure bullcrap into their reviews making a simple opinion on what they thought of a game into a subject matter of stuff like "Joel is a rampaging killer who kills hundreds of people cause he loves it" "Joel is the worst character ever in a video game or movie" or "This game makes fun of American rich house wives".

Aaah, memories..

AHAHAHA...

OWNED, LEMMINGS!!! FUCKING OWNED!!! Lems have been anally destroyed by the arrival of the greatest game of all time. It's running 1080p 60 FPS and awesome graphics exclusively on the PS4 while lemmings have nothing but immature shit like titanfail with a pathetic 86 meta. AHAHAHAHAHAHA... Seriously, how immature do you have to be to enjoy some shitty game where you control gigantic robots? Come back when you have some real, mature games like TLOU.

Again, thanks for trying lemmings, but you have clearly lost.