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#101 deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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I no longer have a Playstation 3 to play Persona 5. So this excites me.

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#102  Edited By ohgeez
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My backlog of ps3 games is already pretty big. Now I will be able to play them on the vita, which is much easier for me to game on these days than a console.

Looking forward to TLOU, Beyond 2 souls, and GOW: Acension on a handheld.

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#103 -RPGamer-
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Lame, mostly bc this kills BC in a more traditional sense. So my existing games are worthless, well unless I unpack my older systems.

I want a 32X add on to the PS4, but that's not happening.

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#104 Chutebox
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Anyone nice enough to explain to me what this is?

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#105 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Remove PS3 BC to sell a service to play PS3 games.

Weak.

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#106 g0ddyX
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Pretty epic to be able to play PS1, PS2 and PS3 games anywhere and on the go and access to everything.
All whilst they pump out more nextgen PS4 games.

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#107 -RPGamer-
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@Stevo_the_gamer: I concur. This is a kick to the lower mid section for anyone who has already been a PS gamer.

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#108  Edited By CARNAGES41
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Streaming games sounds retarded

I doubt it will run smoothly

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#109 TexasBoi98
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@-RPGamer- said:

@Stevo_the_gamer: I concur. This is a kick to the lower mid section for anyone who has already been a PS gamer.

speak for yourself.

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#110  Edited By trugs26
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This is great. I think it's great because this kind of competitive might motivate Nintendo to get their VC on track. Nintendo has a rich history and they could be doing a much better service than what they're offering now. So this move from Sony might show Nintendo how important this kind of service is, and how much better their service can be.

I don't necessarily think Nintendo should do it the way Sony are, but I'm just saying that this could show the importance of getting a large library of old games available on multiple systems, and doing it in a sensible way. A good example is right now Super Mario Bros. 3 is on the VC. It just came out. And it's available for both Wii U and 3DS. I want this game, but I don't know which one to purchase. I'm refusing to purchase until they unify the VC experience. I want to buy SMB3 once and then I should be able to play it on both my 3DS or Wii U.

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#111  Edited By -RPGamer-
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@texasboi98: I'm sure I speak for many of PS gamers who have discs already purchased for PSX, PS2, and PS3. I mean Sony can't throw us a bone and give us software emulation of the PSX and PS2 in the PS4? Or give is an addon with the unique hardware needed?

Again I find this completely lame as a huge fan of the last three PS consoles, I'm not paying for a service when I can see local versions of the games a few ****ing feat away from where I sit.

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#112  Edited By TexasBoi98
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hopefully the subscription will be included in the PS+ price, with a separate cost for those who don't have playstation hardware.

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#113 killzowned24
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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Remove PS3 BC to sell a service to play PS3 games.

Weak.

BC is not worth the trouble for them with the CELL in PS3 and its been shown that it only really gets used for the first year from what I remember. Xbone had even easier and they still didn't.

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#114 TheTruthIsREAL
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@Stevo_the_gamer: removed? when was it added?

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#115  Edited By Zidaneski
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@-RPGamer- said:

@texasboi98: I'm sure I speak for many of PS gamers who have discs already purchased for PSX, PS2, and PS3. I mean Sony can't throw us a bone and give us software emulation of the PSX and PS2 in the PS4? Or give is an addon with the unique hardware needed?

Again I find this completely lame as a huge fan of the last three PS consoles, I'm not paying for a service when I can see local versions of the games a few ****ing feat away from where I sit.

I disagree, I own tons of PS games across all platforms but not all of my games work. They didn't get scratched or anything but its just from overusage that some of my games don't work like they should. My main example is Legends of Legaia, it freezes right around the half-way point. Guess how much a new copy sells for,...$150. If they put this game on Playstaion Now then I'm subscribing in the blink of an eye and I'll be one happy gamer.

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#116  Edited By handssss
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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Remove PS3 BC to sell a service to play PS3 games.

Weak.

yes. ps3 backwards compatibility through traditional means was definitely possible beyond making a system costing far more than $500.

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#117  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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@brucebenzing said:

TC aren't you going to thank me for providing the link?

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#118 inggrish
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@bobbetybob: ... Onlive *twitches*, such a mess. Why did Rikusaki hype it so much?

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#119 speedfog
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This looks like Onlive. Suddenly cows think it's good.

It looks like shit. Streaming games on da VITA 20 fps.

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#120 xh117
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Input lag is a huge dealbreaker for me, its why I didn't like OnLive,

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#121 XboxDone74
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@Stevo_the_gamer: only morons get rid of previous systems, which leads them unable to play previous titles. wake up.

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#122 cainetao11
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I've owned a vita since launch and love it. This could be great. I don't need to stream to my vita though, just let me download the games!! As for SW material, a lot of lost exclusives as this will be available on non Sony platforms. Its still Sony's stuff. The definition of exclusive evolves.

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#123 Gaming-Planet
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Makes me want to get a Vita.

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#124 Sushiglutton
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In a couple of years the tech will be good enough to stream Ps4 games to your TV. Then you can throw your Ps4 in the bin.

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#125  Edited By brentendo3
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To sum it up... People are excited to pay a subscription in return for games requiring constant internet connection. And the games are also coming from the cloud. And it's on a Sony system.

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#126 withe1982
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The ability to play Deus Ex:HR, TLOU, All Bioshocks and Ni No Kuni on my Vita is very exciting. Can't wait myself. Interesting to see how they handle the control schemes for them. Using the back touch pad for L2 + R2 is a bit cumbersome.

Also what's the craic if you only have a bravia TV? Will you have to buy a dedicated controller?

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#127  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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I love how rattled the Lem Scum Army are about this. Five, six years this could be big. Guess MS should have gone for streaming over computational crap for their servers.

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#128  Edited By MonsieurX
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

I love how rattled the Lem Scum Army are about this. Five, six years this could be big. Guess MS should have gone for streaming over computational crap for their servers.

720P in 5-6 years will look awesome on 4k tvs

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#129 Heil68
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I think it's great. I'll subscribe to the service.

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#130 GrenadeLauncher
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@MonsieurX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

I love how rattled the Lem Scum Army are about this. Five, six years this could be big. Guess MS should have gone for streaming over computational crap for their servers.

720P in 5-6 years will look awesome on 4k tvs

Sorry, are you talking about PS Now or Halo 7?

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#131 sirk1264
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Thankfully I still have the original fat ps3 that can play all ps2 games. So this service doesn't really interest me at all. Though it does sound like a cool service.

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#132 blackace
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@cainetao11 said:

Guess this will turn into company wars, although for many it already was. PS now will be available on non Sony devices, so those games will no longer be exclusive. Its a potentially strong revenue for Sony.

I was thinking the same thing. It's all going to come down to price and how well the service works in the game. How many of the PS3, PS2 & PS1 games will be on the service? That's important as well. Will it only be Sony's 1st party games? How many 3rd party companies will agree to put their games on this service? A lot of big questions for Sony to answer before it's released.

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#133 shawn30
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The only losers here are Gamefly and Gamespot, and that's only if the lag isn't terrible, the gaming line-up is strong, and the price isn't outrageous. We always knew both Sony and MS will do cloud based gaming on older games and TV. But saying what you are going to do and then delivering is quite a different story. All of it looks good on paper alone.

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#134 MonsieurX
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@MonsieurX said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

I love how rattled the Lem Scum Army are about this. Five, six years this could be big. Guess MS should have gone for streaming over computational crap for their servers.

720P in 5-6 years will look awesome on 4k tvs

Sorry, are you talking about PS Now or Halo 7?

Ps Now.

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#135 ohgeez
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Wow, the footage of TLOU on vita looks pretty impressive. I will definitely be playing this on the handheld.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/08/ces-playstation-now-hands-on-impressions

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#136  Edited By Telekill
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I see myself using Playstation Now as a rental service instead of Gamefly. I have no intention of getting rid of my physical Playstation collection as it's rather large and there are no guarantees that my favorite PS titles will be available on the service. Sure, the big named ones will be, but what about games like Lost World Jurassic Park (PS1), Resident Evil Outbreak (PS2) or Unreal Tournament 3 (PS3)? Those aren't mainstream and may never be up on the PS Now service. Plus, I'm just not ready to go all digital.

Of course, everything depends on pricing. If they charge too much for rentals, I'll probably just let it slide.

What would be great is if they could detect which games you have and give you access to those on the streaming service. Such as what you've bought over PSN over the last generation.

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#137 lostrib
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Supposedly this is a gif of playstation now running on local at CES showing input lag

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#138  Edited By darkangel115
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this gif is from someone at gaf playing it from CES

someone who played on gaikai before sony purchased said they have 500DL100UL speed and said that was their experience as well

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#139  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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@lostrib said:

Supposedly this is a gif of playstation now running on local at CES showing input lag

expected. personally wont be using this service anyway just going to re-buy my ps3 so many games yet to play.

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#140 CARNAGES41
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@lostrib said:

Supposedly this is a gif of playstation now running on local at CES showing input lag

no surprise here

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#141 clr84651
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@OhSnapitz said:
@Animal-Mother said:

@ninjapirate2000 said:

@Couth_: Yeah I know lol.

I hoping this comes with ps+ subscription, but I'm guessing not since Sony invested so much in Gaikai. I'm also hoping I don't have to buy games I already have.

I'd take a 5 dollar bump in a PSN subscription to get this. As long as it featured the most prominent PS3 games and a whole lot of PS2 and PS1 libraries

..well they would either charge you for the service or for the games. I just hope it's not unreasonable. I missed out on quite a few PS3 titles and I would rather not buy a discounted PS3.

You pay for the service & it gives you access to play all the games.

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#142 WilliamRLBaker
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lol wow look at that input lag.

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#144 Devil-Itachi
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My mind my change in the future but for now this sums up how I feel about Playstation Now.

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#145 blackace
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So gamers will have to PAY AGAIN to play the games they already own? Is that what Sony is telling us? Will this feature mean all the PS1, PS2 & PS3 games released on Playstation Now are non-exclusive? I think the biggest question is what kind of price structure will they have. Will we be able to play the games we already own for free. Can we insert a PS3 or PS2 disc into our PS4 and Playstation Now will recognize that we already own the game and can freely stream the game from Playstation Now and play. it? Is this service US only? What about Europe, Australia, Japan, UK, etc...? Those are the questions we want answered Sony. The lag is pretty bad. No fighting or FPS games will play well on this with that lag.

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#146 ghostwarrior786
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@blackace said:

So gamers will have to PAY AGAIN to play the games they already own? Is that what Sony is telling us? Will this feature mean all the PS1, PS2 & PS3 games released on Playstation Now are non-exclusive? I think the biggest question is what kind of price structure will they have. Will we be able to play the games we already own for free. Can we insert a PS3 or PS2 disc into our PS4 and Playstation Now will recognize that we already own the game and can freely stream the game from Playstation Now and play. it? Is this service US only? What about Europe, Australia, Japan, UK, etc...? Those are the questions we want answered Sony. The lag is pretty bad. No fighting or FPS games will play well on this with that lag.

hahaha when u bought a ps3 game (assuming u have ever owned the console) did it say 'compatible with future consoles'?, entitled much? of course u gona have to pay servers cost money, its coming out everywhere. lag will obviously depend on connection sony are not harry potter

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#147  Edited By deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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@blackace said:

So gamers will have to PAY AGAIN to play the games they already own? Is that what Sony is telling us? Will this feature mean all the PS1, PS2 & PS3 games released on Playstation Now are non-exclusive? I think the biggest question is what kind of price structure will they have. Will we be able to play the games we already own for free. Can we insert a PS3 or PS2 disc into our PS4 and Playstation Now will recognize that we already own the game and can freely stream the game from Playstation Now and play. it? Is this service US only? What about Europe, Australia, Japan, UK, etc...? Those are the questions we want answered Sony. The lag is pretty bad. No fighting or FPS games will play well on this with that lag.

It's NA first then rolled out to Europe after.

So you're essentially asking for free server space and the ability to play a game without a disc potentially on PC, TV, PS Vita and PS4 despite the PS3 disc you bought only being guaranteed to work on a PS3? You're asking for a hell of a lot for no extra charge. If it irks you so much then keep your PS3, just don't pretend more options are a bad thing, it's not like the PS3 has suddenly disappeared and you're force to pay.

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#148 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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@lostrib said:

Supposedly this is a gif of playstation now running on local at CES showing input lag

That's a slow motion gif, pretty misleading, you could do the same for most regular games and see some input lag.

The original source it's from shows it better: http://instagram.com/p/i4c7TvhqvB/

Not nearly as bad and he seemed fairly happy, top that up with many critics all concluding it plays well and i know i won't be believing the FUD. Gizmodo, gamespot, IGN and even Polygon all gave it good write ups.

One of the gamespot guys said he didn't believe what he was playing was being streamed.

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#149 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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It seems like a good idea. I worry about input latency, though. Also, I'd still like the option to buy the games. I hope sony doesn't eliminate the psx/ps2 store from the ps3 psn.

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#150 PurpleMan5000
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It sounds pretty neat. I just wish there were a way to use it on my Vita without having to be connected to my wifi. If it is included in PS+ and there aren't issues with the streaming quality, I will pick up a PS4 for this. Something tells me that there will be issues with streaming quality, though, given how long it takes me to download updates on PSN.