This war is over

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I don't care what side of the fanboy battle you find yourself on, you would have to be exceptionally oblivious to try and deny this: this console war is over. The generation is done. We have our winner.

We will now proceed to look at the facts here:

  • It is the most powerful console of the generation
  • It is the highest selling console of this generation so far, and conceivably might have outsold the Xbox One and Wii U combined.
  • It has the most amount of third party support- indie and AAA, western and Japanese, exclusive and multiplatform
  • Most multiplats look best on PS4 of any console
  • The PS4 has the best online service in terms of striking a balance between cost and stability. Yes, Nintendo Network is cheaper (because it is free), but it is shit, and Xbox Live is better, but it is also more expensive, and the value proposition it provides is not as good as the one PSN provides.
  • Sony has superior first party support- not superior to Nintendo, obviously, but far beyond anything Microsoft can muster for Xbox. In the long run, Nintendo having superior first party support does not matter, because that first party support is all that they have.
  • Even though I am personally not a fan, by popular opinion, PS4 has the best controller.
  • PS4 has multiple next generation features that were not on any previous console, nor are on any other current gen console- from its advanced sharing capabilities, SharePlay, Remote Play, and more.
  • PS4 has the PlayStation ecosystem working in its advantage. Things like CrossBuy, CrossPlay, CrossSave are all there to incentivize a PS4 purchase if you already own even one other PlayStation system.
  • Its upcoming game lineup is staggering- it gets every single major third party game the Xbox One gets, it gets more third party games the Xbox One doesn't get, and to top it all off, it gets its own exclusives. If you want to play Street Fighter V, Dragon Quest, or Persona 5 on a current gen console? You really only have one choice, and you might as well just go with it.

As of right now, the PS4 doesn't have much going for it- it has all these indie games that are available on other systems (without the need to buy $400 hardware first), it has all these multiplats, that are also all available on other systems (and really, said multiplats suck to begin with anyway), and it has a bunch of very sad, terrible exclusives. In terms of games, right now? The Wii U is beating it.

How long do you think this will continue? It won't continue for long. In the pipeline, right now, are Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Until Dawn, Let's Go To The Rapture, Persona 5, Ratchet and Clank, Tearaway Unfolded, Dragon Quest, Ys, Street Fighter, Rime, The Witness, and No Man's Sky. And that's just for this year.That isn't even counting all the multiplats (which will be better on PS4 than Xbox One), not counting games that might not have been announced yet. When all is said and done, is anyone here really thinking the PS4 won't come out on top? It has the unique advantage of consolidating indie, AAA, first, second, and third party, western andJapanese developers all in one place- no other system on the market does that.They are all missing one or the other from the equation. Do you really think the PS4 will continue to lag?

As I said, I don't care where you fall in this fanboy war. It doesn't matter. By any objective metric- sales, games, support, power- this war is already over, and will soon be over. In what might be the most astonishing and thoroughly dominating victory the industry has seen ever, especially in context, the PS4 has won. The domination is complete.

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#2 SolidGame_basic
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Rofl charizard jumping on the Sony wagon at the right moment

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shit i chose the wrong side will sony make xb1 ppl slaves now that the war is over?

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This was a done deal when that thing launched.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Rofl charizard jumping on the Sony wagon at the right moment

*yawn*

Had a PS4 since last year, had a Vita since two years ago, I even own a PlayStation TV. I've maintained throughout last year that 2015 will be PS4's year, and I have been pretty positive about the system all year long so far. This is not me jumping in on the right moment. I have owned the PS4 since forever, this is me finally being happy that the purchase is validated. You see, unlike you, I don't just talk about games, I play them too, and I back up my ownership of games and systems with proof. Have you ever proven you own any of the stuff you talk about?

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@charizard1605 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Rofl charizard jumping on the Sony wagon at the right moment

*yawn*

Had a PS4 since last year, had a Vita since two years ago, I even own a PlayStation TV. I've maintained throughout last year that 2015 will be PS4's year, and I have been pretty positive about the system all year long so far. This is not me jumping in on the right moment. I have owned the PS4 since forever, this is me finally being happy that the purchase is validated. You see, unlike you, I don't just talk about games, I play them too, and I back up my ownership of games and systems with proof. Have you ever proven you own any of the stuff you talk about?

wait, he plays games? that doesn't sound right

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How pathetic.

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#8  Edited By Shewgenja
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@ProtossX said:

shit i chose the wrong side will sony make xb1 ppl slaves now that the war is over?

No, but publisher and developer support will dry up in the years to come.

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#9 Krelian-co
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@ProtossX said:

shit i chose the wrong side will sony make xb1 ppl slaves now that the war is over?

no but you clearly seem like you are going to cry yourself to sleep

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@jg4xchamp said:

This was a done deal when that thing launched.

It was done at E3 two years ago.

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#11 Mr_Huggles_dog
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Anything can happen.

Marathon...not a sprint.

That said....it is nice to see ppl behind a good system.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

Anything can happen.

Marathon...not a sprint.

That said....it is nice to see ppl behind a good system.

you must be confused, this is about the PS4

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#13  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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Great. Too bad PS4 has been hyped to ungodly levels without promise for so long. I played the " Reason to own a PS4" in 7 hours. Fun, but never again *cough*The Order.

Good for Sony. I just hope to Jesus its more than QTE and graphics. God speed, you over hyped gimped PC.

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Return on The King.

People will eventually realize how amazing the PS4`s upcoming lineup is. Over 300 games coming in 2015 alone, over 15 of them being exclusive, with still more unannounced. It`s even crazier when you realize how many unannounced games they have, we still need announcements for almost every Sony 1st party studio, and there`s also the 3rd party exclusives they`re securing, a few of which might surprise people.

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It was done when MS first unveiled the Xbox One. The nightmare PR was too much to overcome.

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@kratosyoloswag said:

Return on The King.

People will eventually realize how amazing the PS4`s upcoming lineup is. Over 300 games coming in 2015 alone, over 15 of them being exclusive, with still more unannounced. It`s even crazier when you realize how many unannounced games they have, we still need announcements for almost every Sony 1st party studio, and there`s also the 3rd party exclusives they`re securing, a few of which might surprise people.

oooo so a lot more flops to come. excellent

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@lostrib said:

@kratosyoloswag said:

Return on The King.

People will eventually realize how amazing the PS4`s upcoming lineup is. Over 300 games coming in 2015 alone, over 15 of them being exclusive, with still more unannounced. It`s even crazier when you realize how many unannounced games they have, we still need announcements for almost every Sony 1st party studio, and there`s also the 3rd party exclusives they`re securing, a few of which might surprise people.

oooo so a lot more flops to come. excellent

No way Bloodborne or Uncharted or Persona flop :P

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#18  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@charizard1605: if you are a Sony fan, you certainly had a funny way of showing it. And let's not pretend you play as close as many games as I do lol.

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@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

@kratosyoloswag said:

Return on The King.

People will eventually realize how amazing the PS4`s upcoming lineup is. Over 300 games coming in 2015 alone, over 15 of them being exclusive, with still more unannounced. It`s even crazier when you realize how many unannounced games they have, we still need announcements for almost every Sony 1st party studio, and there`s also the 3rd party exclusives they`re securing, a few of which might surprise people.

oooo so a lot more flops to come. excellent

No way Bloodborne or Uncharted or Persona flop :P

Alright, 3 out of 15. Aiming high :P

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@charizard1605 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Rofl charizard jumping on the Sony wagon at the right moment

*yawn*

Had a PS4 since last year, had a Vita since two years ago, I even own a PlayStation TV. I've maintained throughout last year that 2015 will be PS4's year, and I have been pretty positive about the system all year long so far. This is not me jumping in on the right moment. I have owned the PS4 since forever, this is me finally being happy that the purchase is validated. You see, unlike you, I don't just talk about games, I play them too, and I back up my ownership of games and systems with proof. Have you ever proven you own any of the stuff you talk about?

Fuckin Rektd! Fakeboy exposed.

There are so many die hard cows on this site that talk all this fanboy shit, but every single time there's a thread to prove what you own.....only about 2 of them show up.

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#21  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@charizard1605: if you are a Sony fan, you certainly had a funny way of showing it. And let's not pretend you play as close as many games as I do lol.

I am a games fan. I know that concept is hard to understand.

Prove it.

@lostrib said:

Alright, 3 out of 15. Aiming high :P

Cows underhype everything tho

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@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@lostrib said:

@kratosyoloswag said:

Return on The King.

People will eventually realize how amazing the PS4`s upcoming lineup is. Over 300 games coming in 2015 alone, over 15 of them being exclusive, with still more unannounced. It`s even crazier when you realize how many unannounced games they have, we still need announcements for almost every Sony 1st party studio, and there`s also the 3rd party exclusives they`re securing, a few of which might surprise people.

oooo so a lot more flops to come. excellent

No way Bloodborne or Uncharted or Persona flop :P

Alright, 3 out of 15. Aiming high :P

by your logic pc is a terrible system, want us to check how many terrible games come out on pc?

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@charizard1605 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@charizard1605: if you are a Sony fan, you certainly had a funny way of showing it. And let's not pretend you play as close as many games as I do lol.

Prove it.

@lostrib said:

Alright, 3 out of 15. Aiming high :P

Cows underhype everything tho

Lol, SGB proving something. Good luck with that

Well hopefully now that the war is over, cows will sack up and start hyping things

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@Krelian-co said:

@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

No way Bloodborne or Uncharted or Persona flop :P

Alright, 3 out of 15. Aiming high :P

by your logic pc is a terrible system, want us to check how many terrible games come out on pc?

yes, please compile a complete list, and don't return until you're done :P

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Charizard doesn't play video games lmao

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#26  Edited By Spitfire-Six
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im not sure if he is serious about those "facts" im glad your optimistic though, however the generation just begun.

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@Blabadon: he just got around to starting the TLOU lol

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#28  Edited By lostrib
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Blabadon: he just got around to starting the TLOU lol

i believe he beat it already. have you?

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@SolidGame_basic: Which he generously will let me borrow from him :)

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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Blabadon: he just got around to starting the TLOU lol

I've already beaten The The Last of Us.

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Lol, @SolidGame_basic

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#32  Edited By lostrib
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Lol, @SolidGame_basic

careful, he's rather sensitive

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won in what? in terms of sales? no shit, MS went full Sony and PS3ed the shit out of the Xbone. In terms of games the system is a massive disappointment.

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@mems_1224 said:

won in what? in terms of sales? no shit, MS went full Sony and PS3ed the shit out of the Xbone. In terms of games the system is a massive disappointment.

yeah but the controller acts as a night light. So obviously it wins. Get your shit together

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#35  Edited By Shewgenja
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@mems_1224 said:

won in what? in terms of sales? no shit, MS went full Sony and PS3ed the shit out of the Xbone. In terms of games the system is a massive disappointment.

250+ games is a massive disappointment?

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@Shewgenja said:

@mems_1224 said:

won in what? in terms of sales? no shit, MS went full Sony and PS3ed the shit out of the Xbone. In terms of games the system is a massive disappointment.

250+ games is a massive disappointment?

yup, typical sony, quantity over quality.

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#37  Edited By remiks00
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@lostrib said:

@remiks00 said:

Lol, @SolidGame_basic

careful, he's rather sensitive

May need a Jill sandwich to ease the hurt.

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For products facing a five year life cycle I still think it is too early to say. There are many people like myself that bought a ps4 based off of sonys treatment of the ps3, and then months later realized how crap it actually was. I still believe sales will peak sooner than normal and a large portion of console gamers will venture to the pc format.

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Who the **** is stupid enough to think that the DS4 is the best controller? That thing has terrible analogs and battery life.

lol @sales.

If you want power build a PC or shut the hell up and stop embarrassing yourself.

If you're into inferior experiences IE inferior first party and inferior multi-plats go ahead. I'll enjoy the best of both with PC/Wii U.

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Ok...so close this forum and let's save years of bullshit then.

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@inb4uall: did you sell your vita?

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@inb4uall: did you sell your vita?

Working on it. A guy offered me $250 for the system and the 64gb card. He wants to do homebrew with it or something? I dodged a bullet with the POS4 and Xbone. Looking forward to fixing the only mistake I made this gen.

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#43  Edited By xdude85
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Yeah, sure, whatever you say kid.

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@mems_1224 said:

won in what? in terms of sales? no shit, MS went full Sony and PS3ed the shit out of the Xbone. In terms of games the system is a massive disappointment.

..in that case all three have been a disappointment. The XBO has what 3 games? F5, FH2 and SO.. The PS4 has what Second Son and... pretty much that's it (going by 8+) 3vs1 (with only ONE AAAE) for system's that have been on the market for over a year? And I'd rather not get started on Nintendo's rehash-a-fest.

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@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall: did you sell your vita?

Working on it. A guy offered me $250 for the system and the 64gb card. He wants to do homebrew with it or something? I dodged a bullet with the POS4 and Xbone. Looking forward to fixing the only mistake I made this gen.

Hope the guy doesn't do any research because right now the hacking scene is almost nonexistant on Vita.

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Yeah, Sony locked this shit up at E3 2013. I was worried it would make SW too boring, but now we have lems making fantasy threads while living in denial. On the flip side, even with the best system by the numbers, cows are still dealing with one mega flop after another.

System Wars always finds a way.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Yeah, Sony locked this shit up at E3 2013. I was worried it would make SW too boring, but now we have lems making fantasy threads while living in denial. On the flip side, even with the best system by the numbers, cows are still dealing with one mega flop after another.

System Wars always finds a way.

I think this Jurassic park quote fits SW a little better

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@lostrib said:

I think this Jurassic park quote fits SW a little better

lol... or should I say, Hahahrawrrahaha

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@mems_1224 said:

@Shewgenja said:

@mems_1224 said:

won in what? in terms of sales? no shit, MS went full Sony and PS3ed the shit out of the Xbone. In terms of games the system is a massive disappointment.

250+ games is a massive disappointment?

yup, typical sony, quantity over quality.

Typical Lem, 20 million people run out to buy a $400 system saying otherwise but will shit on a Playstation for not having Halo.

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@Shewgenja said:

@mems_1224 said:

@Shewgenja said:

@mems_1224 said:

won in what? in terms of sales? no shit, MS went full Sony and PS3ed the shit out of the Xbone. In terms of games the system is a massive disappointment.

250+ games is a massive disappointment?

yup, typical sony, quantity over quality.

Typical Lem, 20 million people run out to buy a $400 system saying otherwise but will shit on a Playstation for not having Halo.

well to be fair, it doesn't have halo