This is why waiting to buy a PS4 is bad!

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#1 Edited by clr84651 (5363 posts) -

I heard the argument on here a lot that waiting to buy a PS4 until a price drop &/or until a lot of games are out for it is the best thing to do as a consumer. This is a false notion that it is good for consumers, because it makes for fewer game developers to want to make games for a console when it has low sales.

"We look at it really just introspectively. The '4.2 million' number is important because it gets us further towards our goal," Koller said. "And that goal is the largest install base we can possibly get--to encourage publishers and developers to continue to make great game experiences for PS4."

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-playstation-4-s-early-lead-over-xbox-one-is-not-a-big-deal/1100-6417007/

#2 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10314 posts) -

Its not late March - there are no games on the PS4 that interest me, I am waiting.

#3 Posted by clr84651 (5363 posts) -

Its not late March - there are no games on the PS4 that interest me, I am waiting.

& that's your right, however it hurts how many games come to the console & sooner when people wait. You want a lot of great games & fast? Buy it & help to increase the install base so game devs want to get the games made out to stores.

#4 Posted by SoNin360 (5335 posts) -

It's selling just fine... those waiting to purchase one aren't hurting the Playstation 4, if that's what you're implying.

#5 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (6063 posts) -

I'm not sure if you considered this, but there are many people eagerly waiting to get one as soon as they can; it's always out of stock though.

#6 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10314 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

Its not late March - there are no games on the PS4 that interest me, I am waiting.

& that's your right, however it hurts how many games come to the console & sooner when people wait. You want a lot of great games & fast? Buy it & help to increase the install base so game devs want to get the games made out to stores.

-.- help the install base? The PS4 and Xbox One are selling at astronomical rates - they don't need help inflating their install base.

Me buying a PS4 now doesn't mean that InFamous will hit store shelves before March 21

#7 Posted by darkangel115 (1504 posts) -

so your saying its a catch 22

don't buy a console until there are games, but devs wont make games until you buy a console. sounds dumb, devs need to take the hit, not the consumers

#8 Edited by charizard1605 (55964 posts) -

It's not my job to support the system to make it attractive for developers, its the developers job to support it to make it attractive enough for it to be worth me owning it.

#9 Edited by Renegade311 (334 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

I heard the argument on here a lot that waiting to buy a PS4 until a price drop &/or until a lot of games are out for it is the best thing to do as a consumer. This is a false notion that it is good for consumers, because it makes for fewer game developers to want to make games for a console when it has low sales.

"We look at it really just introspectively. The '4.2 million' number is important because it gets us further towards our goal," Koller said. "And that goal is the largest install base we can possibly get--to encourage publishers and developers to continue to make great game experiences for PS4."

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-playstation-4-s-early-lead-over-xbox-one-is-not-a-big-deal/1100-6417007/

I got a PS4 off Amazon the day after it launched and so far the only game I've played are Resogun which was great and Killzone which was awful, also AC4 but played it on other systems first. Waiting for Knack on Gamefly

There is no reason to buy this system right now unless you can't play BF4 on PC. I will admit it's version of AC4 is better than the Xbox One version, I have both.

#10 Posted by Heil68 (43413 posts) -

I waited till 12:10am on launch night to buy mine.

#11 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25584 posts) -

Oh well, I'm still waiting. I may be a Kaz groupie but some things are more important.

#12 Posted by lostrib (34264 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

I waited till 12:10am on launch night to buy mine.

You monster!

#13 Edited by lundy86_4 (42978 posts) -

The whole "vote with your wallet" is a great mentality, but what's best for the consumer is drastically more important, in my eyes at least. At the end of the day, my purchase alone will do little to influence who develops for a console. Others may do as they please.

#14 Posted by clr84651 (5363 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

Its not late March - there are no games on the PS4 that interest me, I am waiting.

& that's your right, however it hurts how many games come to the console & sooner when people wait. You want a lot of great games & fast? Buy it & help to increase the install base so game devs want to get the games made out to stores.

-.- help the install base? The PS4 and Xbox One are selling at astronomical rates - they don't need help inflating their install base.

Me buying a PS4 now doesn't mean that InFamous will hit store shelves before March 21

The more units that are out and sold entice game devs to make games sooner rather than later. Yes Infamous wont be out until March. I bought 2 PS4s on launch day. I knew it had few games, but I also know that I'm not going to wait 1.5-2 years for a price drop. So I got them now. It helps the install base & thus increases games in development increase also. Larger install base = larger amount of game devs making games.

#15 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

I'll buy whatever I want whenever I want.

It's up to Sony to fund devs into making great games that make me want to buy the system, not the other way round

#16 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10314 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@clr84651 said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

Its not late March - there are no games on the PS4 that interest me, I am waiting.

& that's your right, however it hurts how many games come to the console & sooner when people wait. You want a lot of great games & fast? Buy it & help to increase the install base so game devs want to get the games made out to stores.

-.- help the install base? The PS4 and Xbox One are selling at astronomical rates - they don't need help inflating their install base.

Me buying a PS4 now doesn't mean that InFamous will hit store shelves before March 21

The more units that are out and sold entice game devs to make games sooner rather than later. Yes Infamous wont be out until March. I bought 2 PS4s on launch day. I knew it had few games, but I also know that I'm not going to wait 1.5-2 years for a price drop. So I got them now. It helps the install base & thus increases games in development increase also. Larger install base = larger amount of game devs making games.

its not my job to entice developers to produce for a system - its the developers job to entice me to own a system

#17 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

its not my job to entice developers to produce for a system - its the developers job to entice me to own a system

BINGO!

#18 Posted by Solid_Max13 (3527 posts) -

People act like both Xbox and Ps4 have been out for a decade there's barely any games on both and both sides have to wait it's been 2 months people!

#19 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (17319 posts) -

@SoNin360 said:

It's selling just fine... those waiting to purchase one aren't hurting the Playstation 4, if that's what you're implying.

This and This.

#20 Edited by Bread_or_Decide (17319 posts) -

so your saying its a catch 22

don't buy a console until there are games, but devs wont make games until you buy a console. sounds dumb, devs need to take the hit, not the consumers

Welcome to the world of the Wii U.

#21 Edited by k2theswiss (16598 posts) -

every game dev publisher is jumping over to ps4 and x1. but your out of your mind if you think they will just drop current gen when they are a sitting in a 100 million consumer market

some devs cant afford to budget for both gens or have the man power do so

#22 Posted by Netret0120 (2027 posts) -

Let everyone buy theirs. We need them too. I will get mine in Nov 2014 when Uncharted 4 and Infamous are out. Mgs5!!!

#23 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4367 posts) -

nah mate.

the way it works is:

make a good product, then i'll buy it

not

buy it, then that stimulates them to develop good games for said product.

and shit, even if this DOES work, i don't care. i don't buy a product under the pretence that good games are coming.

#24 Posted by McStrongfast (4263 posts) -

It has sold 4.2 million units. Retailers have none in stock. Prices have gone up.

No.

#25 Edited by Shewgenja (8444 posts) -

I don't think there is anything wrong with waiting. The real must-have games aren't too far off, though. In a year or two, yeah, I'll start calling people out for just waiting. Right now? The thing is tough as nails to get a hold of and there is a plenty long road ahead for all that.

I know the hype for PS4 is through the roof right now, but it's not running off anywhere. Calm your ta-tas.

#26 Posted by treedoor (7639 posts) -

People should buy a product at full price, deal with all the bugs, and problems all while getting almost zero benefit from the product just for the sole benefit of making that product look more enticing for developers to put their games on?

Good ole cows.

Just await

#27 Edited by AdobeArtist (22819 posts) -

It's not the consumers responsibility to bring in developers to a given platform. It's the hardware manufacturer's burden to convince the publishers on their own to bring the games to their platform, just as it's the developers risk to assume.

We get the luxury to sit back while the competition does the work to show us why they deserve our dollars more then the other guy, then choose what to buy based on who we feel delivers more.

That's how business works. Companies do do the asking, we get the choice.

#28 Posted by clyde46 (44819 posts) -

My PS4 is sitting here on my desk. Where are the games man!?

#29 Posted by sonny2dap (1280 posts) -

Umm what? Both Xbox one and ps4 are bad deals at the moment, limited libraries and inflated price tags, it's your money to do with as you please but there's no point trying to spin it any other way, if someone see's the value in it then fine but for the most part people will hold out for a better deal and more software options.

#30 Posted by Heil68 (43413 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Heil68 said:

I waited till 12:10am on launch night to buy mine.

You monster!

Longest 10 minutes of my life!

#31 Posted by Evo_nine (1628 posts) -

Im cool ill wait thx.

The way things are going with the ps4 i may never buy one

#32 Posted by Trail_Mix (2021 posts) -

I'll buy whatever I want whenever I want.

It's up to Sony to fund devs into making great games that make me want to buy the system, not the other way round

Pretty much this.

#33 Posted by fadersdream (3153 posts) -

Your argument applies to both systems.

Buy an Xbox One to increase the install base.

Might as well buy a Ouya, or a WiiU... or a stick.

Actually only a Ouya or a stick, anything else would be a waste of money.

#34 Posted by nini200 (9579 posts) -

It's not my job to support the system to make it attractive for developers, its the developers job to support it to make it attractive enough for it to be worth me owning it.

#35 Posted by lundy86_4 (42978 posts) -

It's not the consumers responsibility to bring in developers to a given platform. It's the hardware manufacturer's burden to convince the publishers on their own to bring the games to their platform, just as it's the developers risk to assume.

We get the luxury to sit back while the competition does the work to show us why they deserve our dollars more then the other guy, then choose what to buy based on who we feel delivers more.

That's how business works. Companies do do the asking, we get the choice.

Adobe really nails it...

#36 Posted by lamprey263 (23089 posts) -

it's set up to be the highest selling next gen console in just a couple months, I don't think publishers are going to abandon it like the Wii U just yet

#37 Posted by masiisam (5717 posts) -

It's not the consumers responsibility to bring in developers to a given platform. It's the hardware manufacturer's burden to convince the publishers on their own to bring the games to their platform, just as it's the developers risk to assume.

We get the luxury to sit back while the competition does the work to show us why they deserve our dollars more then the other guy, then choose what to buy based on who we feel delivers more.

That's how business works. Companies do do the asking, we get the choice.

+1

Plus, thats WHY competition is good for the consumers. i laugh at all the little 12 year olds that say MS is "bad" for industry and wish they never entered it. When in fact MS pushed Sony to become better at what they do. The industry would stall heavy if any of the 3 dropped out.

#38 Posted by clone01 (24497 posts) -

Umm what? Both Xbox one and ps4 are bad deals at the moment, limited libraries and inflated price tags, it's your money to do with as you please but there's no point trying to spin it any other way, if someone see's the value in it then fine but for the most part people will hold out for a better deal and more software options.

True dat. The only reason I have an Xbox One right now is because I like Dead Rising 3. PS4 and Infamous: Second Son will convince me to take the plunge with Sony's console.

#39 Posted by jg4xchamp (47280 posts) -

It is the third party and first party job to try to sell these boxes as well as make their games good enough that I would want to play them.

So if I don't see anything I don't want to play; I'm not going to buy a 400 dollar system or a 500 dollar system for more Resogun(admittedly looks fun) or Dead Rising 3(also admittedly looks fun). Get more shit. Until then the PC has served me better, and I was much happier with the discounted prices I got my 3DS and WiiU at.

#40 Posted by tymeservesfate (1565 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

I heard the argument on here a lot that waiting to buy a PS4 until a price drop &/or until a lot of games are out for it is the best thing to do as a consumer. This is a false notion that it is good for consumers, because it makes for fewer game developers to want to make games for a console when it has low sales.

"We look at it really just introspectively. The '4.2 million' number is important because it gets us further towards our goal," Koller said. "And that goal is the largest install base we can possibly get--to encourage publishers and developers to continue to make great game experiences for PS4."

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-playstation-4-s-early-lead-over-xbox-one-is-not-a-big-deal/1100-6417007/

"please buy a ps4. gaming isn't really that important is it?? just buy one and wait. please, we can't let it be like last gen again...please lord, we can't"

Sony Domination Continuation indeed smh.

#41 Posted by jg4xchamp (47280 posts) -

@masiisam said:
@AdobeArtist said:

It's not the consumers responsibility to bring in developers to a given platform. It's the hardware manufacturer's burden to convince the publishers on their own to bring the games to their platform, just as it's the developers risk to assume.

We get the luxury to sit back while the competition does the work to show us why they deserve our dollars more then the other guy, then choose what to buy based on who we feel delivers more.

That's how business works. Companies do do the asking, we get the choice.

+1

Plus, thats WHY competition is good for the consumers. i laugh at all the little 12 year olds that say MS is "bad" for industry and wish they never entered it. When in fact MS pushed Sony to become better at what they do. The industry would stall heavy if any of the 3 dropped out.

Massi you old son of a bitch. They let you out of a retirement home?

#42 Edited by GTSaiyanjin2 (5804 posts) -

Sony is selling the PS4 faster than they can make them. No one is hurting anyone here.

#43 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38214 posts) -

@masiisam said:

+1

Plus, thats WHY competition is good for the consumers. i laugh at all the little 12 year olds that say MS is "bad" for industry and wish they never entered it. When in fact MS pushed Sony to become better at what they do. The industry would stall heavy if any of the 3 dropped out.

People around here don't understand business or monopolies. Unless it's the board game

#44 Posted by jg4xchamp (47280 posts) -

Fuck the board game. That's the game you play to find out which one of your family members has no integrity.

#45 Posted by masiisam (5717 posts) -

@masiisam said:
@AdobeArtist said:

It's not the consumers responsibility to bring in developers to a given platform. It's the hardware manufacturer's burden to convince the publishers on their own to bring the games to their platform, just as it's the developers risk to assume.

We get the luxury to sit back while the competition does the work to show us why they deserve our dollars more then the other guy, then choose what to buy based on who we feel delivers more.

That's how business works. Companies do do the asking, we get the choice.

+1

Plus, thats WHY competition is good for the consumers. i laugh at all the little 12 year olds that say MS is "bad" for industry and wish they never entered it. When in fact MS pushed Sony to become better at what they do. The industry would stall heavy if any of the 3 dropped out.

Massi you old son of a bitch. They let you out of a retirement home?

Da fuck right....I got new tennis balls on my walker that rip....some new polymer... like the one in christmas vacation on the sled..

They let your ass back in here? So thats why this place has gone to shit..!!1!!1

#46 Posted by jg4xchamp (47280 posts) -

@masiisam said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@masiisam said:
@AdobeArtist said:

It's not the consumers responsibility to bring in developers to a given platform. It's the hardware manufacturer's burden to convince the publishers on their own to bring the games to their platform, just as it's the developers risk to assume.

We get the luxury to sit back while the competition does the work to show us why they deserve our dollars more then the other guy, then choose what to buy based on who we feel delivers more.

That's how business works. Companies do do the asking, we get the choice.

+1

Plus, thats WHY competition is good for the consumers. i laugh at all the little 12 year olds that say MS is "bad" for industry and wish they never entered it. When in fact MS pushed Sony to become better at what they do. The industry would stall heavy if any of the 3 dropped out.

Massi you old son of a bitch. They let you out of a retirement home?

Da fuck right....I got new tennis balls on my walker that rip....some new polymer... like the one in christmas vacation on the sled..

They let your ass back in here? So thats why this place has gone to shit..!!1!!1

Yeah man someone was stupid enough to tell em I'm a good poster.

Been cleaning house since. Hijacking threads, shitting up threads, stating truths people don't wanna accept. It's great. Going full Michael Jordan here. They even got rid of Teuf, and without him around these mods know better.

#47 Posted by whatsazerg (195 posts) -

so your saying its a catch 22

don't buy a console until there are games, but devs wont make games until you buy a console. sounds dumb, devs need to take the hit, not the consumers

Kickstarters success tells you, you are wrong.

#48 Posted by darkangel115 (1504 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

so your saying its a catch 22

don't buy a console until there are games, but devs wont make games until you buy a console. sounds dumb, devs need to take the hit, not the consumers

Kickstarters success tells you, you are wrong.

its one thing to fund a specific project in place for a specific reward, its another to buy a piece of hardware with no use, so that people will eventually give it use later on.

#49 Posted by whatsazerg (195 posts) -

@whatsazerg said:

@darkangel115 said:

so your saying its a catch 22

don't buy a console until there are games, but devs wont make games until you buy a console. sounds dumb, devs need to take the hit, not the consumers

Kickstarters success tells you, you are wrong.

its one thing to fund a specific project in place for a specific reward, its another to buy a piece of hardware with no use, so that people will eventually give it use later on.

What console ever launched that was of "no use" as you put it?

What kickstarter funding ever provided you anything of value immediately after you donated money?

Your logic would make sense if there was any truth to what you said... however, that's not the case.

#50 Posted by Snugenz (11813 posts) -

People are better off waiting that way they avoid their PS4 collecting dust like mine is atm.