This is What Legend of Zelda looks like in Unreal Engine 4

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#1 Edited by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

It's absolutely stunning, and I would totally not mind a Zelda game in this style (it reminds me of the E3 tech demo reveal from a few years ago).

Zelda U will be revealed in one month- what kind of art style do you think will it have?

#2 Edited by Heil68 (42685 posts) -

I'd be happy with that style. Reminds me of GOW games.

#3 Edited by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

Too mature for Nintendo.

#4 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (17096 posts) -

Why do Nintendo fans always do this to themselves?

No way in hell are you ever getting a zelda game that looks like that.

Even with Twilight Princess you finally got a serious zelda and it STILL didn't look like that. Give it up.

#5 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Why do Nintendo fans always do this to themselves?

No way in hell are you ever getting a zelda game that looks like that.

Even with Twilight Princess you finally got a serious zelda and it STILL didn't look like that. Give it up.

Twilight Princess tried really hard to look like that. Its hardware just couldn't do it, though.

#6 Edited by PonchoTaco (1904 posts) -

Why do Nintendo fans always do this to themselves?

No way in hell are you ever getting a zelda game that looks like that.

Even with Twilight Princess you finally got a serious zelda and it STILL didn't look like that. Give it up.

I don't think anyone is expecting the next Zelda to look this good.

#7 Edited by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

Insta-boner.

If a Zelda game came out with those visuals on Wii U I think I would die very happy.

#8 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

I don't think anyone is expecting the next Zelda to look this good.

Why wouldn't it?

#9 Edited by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

Why do Nintendo fans always do this to themselves?

No way in hell are you ever getting a zelda game that looks like that.

Even with Twilight Princess you finally got a serious zelda and it STILL didn't look like that. Give it up.

I never said it would look like that, just that I would not mind for it to look like that.

My hopes from the next Zelda are for it to look like the E3 demo.

#10 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Why do Nintendo fans always do this to themselves?

No way in hell are you ever getting a zelda game that looks like that.

Even with Twilight Princess you finally got a serious zelda and it STILL didn't look like that. Give it up.

I never said it would look like that, just that I would not mind for it to look like that.

My hopes from the next Zelda are for it to look like the E3 demo.

The E3 demo looked better than this, really.

#11 Edited by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Why do Nintendo fans always do this to themselves?

No way in hell are you ever getting a zelda game that looks like that.

Even with Twilight Princess you finally got a serious zelda and it STILL didn't look like that. Give it up.

I never said it would look like that, just that I would not mind for it to look like that.

My hopes from the next Zelda are for it to look like the E3 demo.

The E3 demo looked better than this, really.

That would be the art style.

#12 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (1860 posts) -

Well, this is Wii U Zelda they showed:

#13 Edited by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Why do Nintendo fans always do this to themselves?

No way in hell are you ever getting a zelda game that looks like that.

Even with Twilight Princess you finally got a serious zelda and it STILL didn't look like that. Give it up.

I never said it would look like that, just that I would not mind for it to look like that.

My hopes from the next Zelda are for it to look like the E3 demo.

The E3 demo looked better than this, really.

That would be the art style.

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

#14 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife: LOL

That would be the art style.

Well, hopefully Nintendo's artists can put together a game that looks better than this video that will stand the test of time, just like they did with Wind Waker.

#15 Posted by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

Well, this is Wii U Zelda they showed:

What the hell is that? ew

#16 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

@_Matt_: It's Hyrule Warriors, the Zelda/Dynasty Warriors spinoff game that is coming out this year.

#17 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (1860 posts) -

@_Matt_: It's Hyrule Warriors, the Zelda/Dynasty Warriors spinoff game that is coming out this year.

In short, it´s Zelda game by Nintendo. Stop your excuses

FACT.

#18 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

Well, this is Wii U Zelda they showed:

Except they specifically stated this isn't the Wii U Zelda, just a spin off.

@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

#19 Edited by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@_Matt_: It's Hyrule Warriors, the Zelda/Dynasty Warriors spinoff game that is coming out this year.

I see. Well it looks like a really early 360 game in that screenshot, like 2005 early.

#20 Posted by Animal-Mother (26218 posts) -

It's a shame nintendo rarely gives a shit about what people have to say. Sometimes they hit it out of the park ALBW sometimes the absolutely screw the pooch>

#21 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (3306 posts) -

lol is wiiu even more powerful than ps3? serious question, i doubt it can pull these graphics off with enemies on screen and smooth framerate

#22 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

lol is wiiu even more powerful than ps3? serious question, i doubt it can pull these graphics off with enemies on screen and smooth framerate

Yes it is more powerful than PS3.

However, it is definitely not powerful enough to handle all of that- that seems to be Unreal Engine 4 with no truncations, something the Wii U can't handle (it can and does run a pared back version of UE4, but that would definitely be too much for it to handle).

#23 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -
#24 Posted by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

CAN? Yes.

DOES? Not always. In fact rarely, and in the case of the Wii, almost never.

But yes Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. At the same time though it has at least tried to embrace technical graphics, which makes the art style pop even more.

#25 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

CAN? Yes.

DOES? Not always. In fact rarely, and in the case of the Wii, almost never.

But yes Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. At the same time though it has at least tried to embrace technical graphics, which makes the art style pop even more.

I disagree with you on that. Wii games were gorgeous, and they looked as good as they did because of the art. The problem was the resolution, which made them look shite. If you want to see how beautiful Wii games look, check out some of the shots captured using Dolphin.

#26 Edited by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

CAN? Yes.

DOES? Not always. In fact rarely, and in the case of the Wii, almost never.

But yes Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. At the same time though it has at least tried to embrace technical graphics, which makes the art style pop even more.

I disagree with you on that. Wii games were gorgeous, and they looked as good as they did because of the art. The problem was the resolution, which made them look shite. If you want to see how beautiful Wii games look, check out some of the shots captured using Dolphin.

still a part of the technical graphics.

But even then, no, Wii games look hideous.

#27 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

CAN? Yes.

DOES? Not always. In fact rarely, and in the case of the Wii, almost never.

But yes Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. At the same time though it has at least tried to embrace technical graphics, which makes the art style pop even more.

I disagree with you on that. Wii games were gorgeous, and they looked as good as they did because of the art. The problem was the resolution, which made them look shite. If you want to see how beautiful Wii games look, check out some of the shots captured using Dolphin.

still a part of the technical graphics.

But even then, no, Wii games look hideous.

Well, we already know we differ on artstyle, so we're going to have to agree to disagree here.

#28 Posted by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol is wiiu even more powerful than ps3? serious question, i doubt it can pull these graphics off with enemies on screen and smooth framerate

Yes it is more powerful than PS3.

However, it is definitely not powerful enough to handle all of that- that seems to be Unreal Engine 4 with no truncations, something the Wii U can't handle (it can and does run a pared back version of UE4, but that would definitely be too much for it to handle).

UE4 is highly scalable, so it wouldn't surprise me if you could get just a slightly less decent version of this UE4 demo running on a Wii U at 720.

UE4 does not yet have a Wii U porting plugin unlike the PS4 and XBO which puts it at a serious disadvantage with porting UE4 games, but if a mind was set to it, it would be possible.

#29 Posted by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

CAN? Yes.

DOES? Not always. In fact rarely, and in the case of the Wii, almost never.

But yes Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. At the same time though it has at least tried to embrace technical graphics, which makes the art style pop even more.

I disagree with you on that. Wii games were gorgeous, and they looked as good as they did because of the art. The problem was the resolution, which made them look shite. If you want to see how beautiful Wii games look, check out some of the shots captured using Dolphin.

still a part of the technical graphics.

But even then, no, Wii games look hideous.

Well, we already know we differ on artstyle, so we're going to have to agree to disagree here.

Sure thing.

I'd rather look to the future than the past though, especially with Nintendo games (drools over MK8 and Zelda U demo)

#30 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol is wiiu even more powerful than ps3? serious question, i doubt it can pull these graphics off with enemies on screen and smooth framerate

Yes it is more powerful than PS3.

However, it is definitely not powerful enough to handle all of that- that seems to be Unreal Engine 4 with no truncations, something the Wii U can't handle (it can and does run a pared back version of UE4, but that would definitely be too much for it to handle).

UE4 is highly scalable, so it wouldn't surprise me if you could get just a slightly less decent version of this UE4 demo running on a Wii U at 720.

UE4 does not yet have a Wii U porting plugin unlike the PS4 and XBO which puts it at a serious disadvantage with porting UE4 games, but if a mind was set to it, it would be possible.

But nothing is technically stopping UE4 from running on the Wii U, it is more than capable of running it if it wanted to. Given that it was designed to run on an iPhone if necessary, running on the Wii U should be no issues with some scale backs.

As for this specific instance- again, the tech demo looks good as a tech demo. This would be the worst art style for a Zelda game yet, so I would hope Nintendo, even if they decided to use UE4 for their next game for whatever reason, actually brought in their signature art style with them. Something like the E3 tech demo would be amazing.

#31 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

CAN? Yes.

DOES? Not always. In fact rarely, and in the case of the Wii, almost never.

But yes Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. At the same time though it has at least tried to embrace technical graphics, which makes the art style pop even more.

I disagree with you on that. Wii games were gorgeous, and they looked as good as they did because of the art. The problem was the resolution, which made them look shite. If you want to see how beautiful Wii games look, check out some of the shots captured using Dolphin.

still a part of the technical graphics.

But even then, no, Wii games look hideous.

#32 Edited by AtariKidX (6192 posts) -

Seriously.....is this the best the WiiU can do...??lol It looks horrible.God of War 3 and Uncharted games on PS3 looks a lot better.

#33 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

Seriously.....is this the best the WiiU can do...??lol It looks horrible.God of War 3 and Uncharted games on PS3 looks a lot better.

lol you idiot, this isn't the Wii U, this is a third party UE4 render.

Again, do you ever say anything that isn't revoltingly wrong on every level possible?

#34 Edited by Desmonic (12696 posts) -

Hmm, looks great but it seems to lack that charm... can't really put my finger on it, but even the WiiU tech demo had something "extra" that added a bit more soul into it... Perhaps due to looking so overly cinematic/realistic in some sense? Not sure.

Definitely looks great though, no doubts about it.

#35 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

Hmm, looks great but it seems to lack that charm... can't really put my finger on it, but even the WiiU tech demo had something "extra" that added a bit more soul into it... Perhaps due to looking so overly cinematic/realistic in some sense? Not sure.

Definitely looks great though, no doubts about it.

It was the artstyle. Nintendo's artstyle is incredible. This tech demo looks like a random generic fantasy game.

#36 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

Hmm, looks great but it seems to lack that charm... can't really put my finger on it, but even the WiiU tech demo had something "extra" that added a bit more soul into it... Perhaps due to looking so overly cinematic/realistic in some sense? Not sure.

Definitely looks great though, no doubts about it.

It was the artstyle. Nintendo's artstyle is incredible. This tech demo looks like a random generic fantasy game.

It looks like The Elder Scrolls.

#37 Edited by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@_Matt_ said:

Seconded. This UE4 video may not have the art style but technically it's on a much higher level. Definitely possible on the Wii U though.

Nintendo's art style is impeccable, it can cover for technical deficiencies incredibly well (see also: Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8). Technically, this video might be more accomplished, but I am confident the actual Wii U Zelda will look better just because of its art.

CAN? Yes.

DOES? Not always. In fact rarely, and in the case of the Wii, almost never.

But yes Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. At the same time though it has at least tried to embrace technical graphics, which makes the art style pop even more.

I disagree with you on that. Wii games were gorgeous, and they looked as good as they did because of the art. The problem was the resolution, which made them look shite. If you want to see how beautiful Wii games look, check out some of the shots captured using Dolphin.

still a part of the technical graphics.

But even then, no, Wii games look hideous.

No. That still looks terrible from a technical standpoint.

In fact it's only highlighting the crummy textures that aren't even mapped across some surfaces properly, and also highlights how low poly and blocky everything is.

Why are the pavements on exactly the same level as the cobble stones? why does the grass look like a sanded wooden slope painted green? Why do the lamp posts horribly morph with the pavement? Why are the reflections in the water so stretched? etc.

#38 Edited by Desmonic (12696 posts) -

@charizard1605: Yeah, maybe that's it. It didn't scream "Zelda", I had to wait to see the franchise icons to confirm it.

Though this graphical quality + Ninty's artsyle wonders would be something to behold! Kinda gets me a bit more excited to see how Zelda U will look :)

#39 Edited by SolidGame_basic (16060 posts) -

Not that impressive

#40 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6601 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

No. That still looks terrible from a technical standpoint.

In fact it's only highlighting the crummy textures that aren't even mapped across some surfaces properly, and also highlights how low poly and blocky everything is.

Why are the pavements on exactly the same level as the cobble stones? why does the grass look like a sanded wooden slope painted green? Why do the lamp posts horribly morph with the pavement? Why are the reflections in the water so stretched? etc.

Yet it still looks fantastic.

#41 Edited by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol is wiiu even more powerful than ps3? serious question, i doubt it can pull these graphics off with enemies on screen and smooth framerate

Yes it is more powerful than PS3.

However, it is definitely not powerful enough to handle all of that- that seems to be Unreal Engine 4 with no truncations, something the Wii U can't handle (it can and does run a pared back version of UE4, but that would definitely be too much for it to handle).

UE4 is highly scalable, so it wouldn't surprise me if you could get just a slightly less decent version of this UE4 demo running on a Wii U at 720.

UE4 does not yet have a Wii U porting plugin unlike the PS4 and XBO which puts it at a serious disadvantage with porting UE4 games, but if a mind was set to it, it would be possible.

But nothing is technically stopping UE4 from running on the Wii U, it is more than capable of running it if it wanted to. Given that it was designed to run on an iPhone if necessary, running on the Wii U should be no issues with some scale backs.

As for this specific instance- again, the tech demo looks good as a tech demo. This would be the worst art style for a Zelda game yet, so I would hope Nintendo, even if they decided to use UE4 for their next game for whatever reason, actually brought in their signature art style with them. Something like the E3 tech demo would be amazing.

That was my point, it is more than capable enough of running UE4, I was more meaning the porting process would be a lot more painful getting onto WiiU than the other 2 8th gen platforms.

And whatever engine Ninty use, they can take their artstyle with them, the engine is unlikely to define that, it would only define technical limitations.

#42 Edited by Demonjoe93 (9420 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

@_Matt_: It's Hyrule Warriors, the Zelda/Dynasty Warriors spinoff game that is coming out this year.

In short, it´s Zelda game by Nintendo. Stop your excuses

FACT.

It's not even being exclusively developed by Nintendo. The Dynasty Warriors devs are doing it. Jesus Christ, do you ever get your facts straight?

#43 Posted by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

No. That still looks terrible from a technical standpoint.

In fact it's only highlighting the crummy textures that aren't even mapped across some surfaces properly, and also highlights how low poly and blocky everything is.

Why are the pavements on exactly the same level as the cobble stones? why does the grass look like a sanded wooden slope painted green? Why do the lamp posts horribly morph with the pavement? Why are the reflections in the water so stretched? etc.

Yet it still looks fantastic.

I highly disagree, I think it looks awful. If it had the technology to really make the art style shine, then sure, maybe I would change my mind, but as it stands no I think it looks awful.

#44 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (1860 posts) -

Wii U

PS3

#45 Edited by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@_Matt_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol is wiiu even more powerful than ps3? serious question, i doubt it can pull these graphics off with enemies on screen and smooth framerate

Yes it is more powerful than PS3.

However, it is definitely not powerful enough to handle all of that- that seems to be Unreal Engine 4 with no truncations, something the Wii U can't handle (it can and does run a pared back version of UE4, but that would definitely be too much for it to handle).

UE4 is highly scalable, so it wouldn't surprise me if you could get just a slightly less decent version of this UE4 demo running on a Wii U at 720.

UE4 does not yet have a Wii U porting plugin unlike the PS4 and XBO which puts it at a serious disadvantage with porting UE4 games, but if a mind was set to it, it would be possible.

But nothing is technically stopping UE4 from running on the Wii U, it is more than capable of running it if it wanted to. Given that it was designed to run on an iPhone if necessary, running on the Wii U should be no issues with some scale backs.

As for this specific instance- again, the tech demo looks good as a tech demo. This would be the worst art style for a Zelda game yet, so I would hope Nintendo, even if they decided to use UE4 for their next game for whatever reason, actually brought in their signature art style with them. Something like the E3 tech demo would be amazing.

That was my point, it is more than capable enough of running UE4, I was more meaning the porting process would be a lot more painful getting onto WiiU than the other 2 8th gen platforms.

And whatever engine Ninty use, they can take their artstyle with them, the engine is unlikely to define that, it would only define technical limitations.

So exactly how pared back would UE4 have to be before it ran on Wuu?

#46 Posted by _Matt_ (8787 posts) -
#47 Posted by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

Wii U

PS3

I mean, yeah, we know Wii U looks better than PS3, but thanks for confirming.

#48 Posted by jhonMalcovich (4348 posts) -
#49 Edited by charizard1605 (54469 posts) -

@charizard1605: You mean how Zelda will never look like on WiiU

Yes, I already said that :/

Goodness's sake, I hope whatever art style they use for Zelda U isn't as bland and generic as that.

#50 Posted by Maroxad (7844 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

Hmm, looks great but it seems to lack that charm... can't really put my finger on it, but even the WiiU tech demo had something "extra" that added a bit more soul into it... Perhaps due to looking so overly cinematic/realistic in some sense? Not sure.

Definitely looks great though, no doubts about it.

It was the artstyle. Nintendo's artstyle is incredible. This tech demo looks like a random generic fantasy game.

To be fair, some of the Zeldas are generic fantasies. Like Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past.