This generation's first AAAAE (10) is . . . Bayonetta 2!!!!

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#801  Edited By Kaze_no_Mirai
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@freedomfreak said:

freedom: Stands for allowing and tolerating all.
freak: The amount of porn I can fit on my phone.

Hahahahahaha nice.

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#802  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@freedomfreak said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

"Going around her house, looking at people's personal stuff." LOL

You know I just got done watching Anita's video's on youtube and all I can think of is...well okay, women voluntarily work at strip clubs. Women voluntarilly become prostitutes. Women use their sexuality at the drop of a hat to gain an advantage in any situation. They want you to pay for dinner. They want you to give up your seat.

But the second video games acknowledge this truth its sexist and anti-feminism? But they have no problem when it benefits them in the moment.

Oh..it's bad for GTA to have strippers and hookers. But in real life women do this and rob men of hundreds of dollars in minutes and that's okay?

Well, that's Bayonetta in a nutshell. You get on your knees and worship her. I.. Like, I don't mind having more fleshed out females in video games. This goes for dudes and dudettes, but for pete's sake, can we allow the crazy in, too?

It's like that chick from Dragon's Crown. She has great babylons and a nice batti. Curvier than... something really curvy. Yet people flip their shit over her. Why? Why is that not allowed?

Look at my username.

freedom: Stands for allowing and tolerating all.

freak: The amount of porn I can fit on my phone.

I just don't look at video games as some as these people do. I look at the characters and go "haha so silly" or "damn. That's one well written character."

Also, ain't nothing wrong with prozzies as long as their pimps treat them right. Btw, you can respond to this post by just saying that you have no clue what I'm going on about. I hardly do.

You're my kind of crazy freedomfreak. My kind of crazy.

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#803 freedomfreak
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

You're my kind of crazy freedomfreak. My kind of crazy.

:mask:

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#804  Edited By Ratchet_Fan8
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This wouldve been a big(ger) deal if people actually visited gamespot like before the redesign lol

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#805 buttonmash3r
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I'm actually shocked GS gave it a 10, but I'm really happy it did. First game was awesome and from the trailers 2 looks like they improved everything even more.

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#806 AznbkdX
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Honestly didn't even think about this games reviews tbh. I always had a feeling that it would score very highly anyways.

I guess it did surprise me that GS out of all people would give it a 10 though.

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#807  Edited By Maroxad
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@locopatho said:

@charizard1605 said:

That aside, I also do want to point out that the Wii U's library of high rated exclusives (AE and beyond) is staggering. It's already such a massive lead, the other two consoles will probably never catch up.

Jeez, hyperbole much? "Staggering"? After two years it has two AAAe games (Mario 3D World and Bayo 2), and six AAe games (NSMBU, Pikmin, Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong, Lego City and Pushmo World) on Metacritic.

8 "great or better" exclusives in two years is "staggering" to you? The 360, mocked for it's exclusives, had five AAe games at launch! (Condemned, Dead Or Alive 5, PG3, Perfect Dark, Geo Wars)

WiiU is doing better than the PS4 and Xbone exclusive wise, clearly, but in a "one eyed man in the land of the blind" sort of way... the 360 and Wii both had much more impressive exclusives at this point in their lifespan.

To be fair, compared to its competition (the XBox one is going nowhere exclusivewise), it is quite staggering.

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#808  Edited By locopatho
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@Maroxad said:

@locopatho said:

@charizard1605 said:

That aside, I also do want to point out that the Wii U's library of high rated exclusives (AE and beyond) is staggering. It's already such a massive lead, the other two consoles will probably never catch up.

Jeez, hyperbole much? "Staggering"? After two years it has two AAAe games (Mario 3D World and Bayo 2), and six AAe games (NSMBU, Pikmin, Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong, Lego City and Pushmo World) on Metacritic.

8 "great or better" exclusives in two years is "staggering" to you? The 360, mocked for it's exclusives, had five AAe games at launch! (Condemned, Dead Or Alive 5, PG3, Perfect Dark, Geo Wars)

WiiU is doing better than the PS4 and Xbone exclusive wise, clearly, but in a "one eyed man in the land of the blind" sort of way... the 360 and Wii both had much more impressive exclusives at this point in their lifespan.

To be fair, compared to its competition (the XBox one is going nowhere exclusivewise), it is quite staggering.

Agree totally with that (Xbox's big Christmas game is a last gen collection/port...), but I think it's more about how few great exclusives PS4 and Xbone have provided. Pretty much Infamous and Forza 5 are it so far. Cross gen and PC/Xbox games are a bit to blame but still. More of a competition doing badly, then WiiU doing particularly well I think.

8 great exclusives in two years just doesn't seem "staggering" to me, I know charizard played Xbox 360 and Wii last gen so he should know how many great exclusives they had in their first two years, it was a lot more than 8...

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#809  Edited By AzatiS
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Congratulations to Platinum games and Wii U. I knew Bayonetta 2 would have been an AAA/AAAA game. Told that to sheeps a month ago more or less.

Nintendo needed such title for Wii U to get some momentum. Its up to sheeps now to go out there and grab a copy and show some support to Platinum games and Nintendo.

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#810  Edited By AzatiS
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@finalfantasy94 said:

@ActicEdge said:

@Maroxad said:

Games scoring AAAAE are always amusing, seeing cows fawn over such an awful game though was hilarious, but got tiring after a while. MGS4 was easily the weakest entry in the series.

The game itself was w/e but the way cows talk about that shit, you'd think it'd cured aids. Was ridiculous honestly.

yea I really like the game but oh boy some of the post got out of hand.

They had a reason why if you guys remember when MGS4 first released. For 2 years more or less , they had no games. I mean , they were the laughstock of both sheeps and Lems for various reasons and one of them was the lack of great games on the system.

So thats why , when MGS4 released and scored a 10 ...they went berserk. Lets not forget what really was happening before MGS4 release. Thats why i think they went berserk with over the top comments.

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#812 PurpleMan5000
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@locopatho said:

@Maroxad said:

@locopatho said:

@charizard1605 said:

That aside, I also do want to point out that the Wii U's library of high rated exclusives (AE and beyond) is staggering. It's already such a massive lead, the other two consoles will probably never catch up.

Jeez, hyperbole much? "Staggering"? After two years it has two AAAe games (Mario 3D World and Bayo 2), and six AAe games (NSMBU, Pikmin, Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong, Lego City and Pushmo World) on Metacritic.

8 "great or better" exclusives in two years is "staggering" to you? The 360, mocked for it's exclusives, had five AAe games at launch! (Condemned, Dead Or Alive 5, PG3, Perfect Dark, Geo Wars)

WiiU is doing better than the PS4 and Xbone exclusive wise, clearly, but in a "one eyed man in the land of the blind" sort of way... the 360 and Wii both had much more impressive exclusives at this point in their lifespan.

To be fair, compared to its competition (the XBox one is going nowhere exclusivewise), it is quite staggering.

Agree totally with that (Xbox's big Christmas game is a last gen collection/port...), but I think it's more about how few great exclusives PS4 and Xbone have provided. Pretty much Infamous and Forza 5 are it so far. Cross gen and PC/Xbox games are a bit to blame but still. More of a competition doing badly, then WiiU doing particularly well I think.

8 great exclusives in two years just doesn't seem "staggering" to me, I know charizard played Xbox 360 and Wii last gen so he should know how many great exclusives they had in their first two years, it was a lot more than 8...

I don't think most of the great exclusives on the Xbox 360 would have been exclusive if the PS3 had been around in its first year, though. All of the great exclusives on the Wii U are developed or published by Nintendo, which is pretty impressive from a development standpoint. It's going to have 10 before the end of 2014.

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#813  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@freedomfreak said:

I don't see the problem with Bayonetta being sexy. She knows it. She flaunts. Uh uh. It's all very aware.

Last year, we had a "game" about some lezzer going around her house, looking at people's personal stuff. Messy family. Everybody loved it. This year, we get a woman that knows what's up. Goes around kicking ass and taking names. Suddenly, there's a problem.

Prudes.

"Going around her house, looking at people's personal stuff." LOL

You know I just got done watching Anita's video's on youtube and all I can think of is...well okay, women voluntarily work at strip clubs. Women voluntarilly become prostitutes. Women use their sexuality at the drop of a hat to gain an advantage in any situation. They want you to pay for dinner. They want you to give up your seat.

But the second video games acknowledge this truth its sexist and anti-feminism? But they have no problem when it benefits them in the moment.

Oh..it's bad for GTA to have strippers and hookers. But in real life women do this and rob men of hundreds of dollars in minutes and that's okay?

I saw a King of the Hill Episode at the Gym pin pointing the wrongs of Today's Feminisim.

I miss King of the Hill.

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#814  Edited By Dibdibdobdobo
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@madsnakehhh: Yup the one and on who hyped it and was vocal on it too.

Off to play W101. I oh, I oh, I oh....

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#815  Edited By SpinoRaptor24
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Amazing sequel to one of the best action games ever made.

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@SpinoRaptor24 said:

Amazing sequel to one of the best action games ever made.

Justice for our girl spino, pure justice.

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#817 Jankarcop
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Uglynita Crapkasian is losing her shit over this. I love it.

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#818  Edited By vl4d_l3nin
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@Jankarcop said:

Uglynita Crapkasian is losing her shit over this. I love it.

It's gonna be funny when she releases a video on it, two years from now

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@Animal-Mother said:

I'm still laughing! That is awesome.

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I would really love to play this game. The problem is that I have almost no interest in MK8, Smash Bros U, Mario 3D world, NSMBU, or anything really. I would like to play that Lego GTA clone I suppose. I would need a deep discount on the system for me to justify buying it now. Maybe after that Splatoon game or another total surprise like Bayonetta 2.

It's not that the games are bad. They're just uninspired.

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#821  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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No one would support Platinum on Bayo.2 but Ninty. Look how that turned out lol I'm sure the companies that turned them down are facepalming at the fact they said no. Sales aside, what publisher wouldn't want this in their library? Fools.

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#822  Edited By Notorious1234NA
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@Kaze_no_Mirai: called fallacy arguments. I only brought up women yet he seeks to prove me wrong by talking about men. Bluntly put, what he wrote was crap as he did not address my proposition and misrepresented my argument. The conversation was the following:

  1. A: The sexualization of the woman Bayonetta is excessive (objectify)
  2. B: Men are objectified

The problem should immediately be apparent in this simplified form. Since when are women now men? When did I speak about the objectification of men? Is that the issue I'm addressing? No. Instead what he did was argue a similar proposition as if that was the argument in A. Get it now? It is called a straw man and why you can't take most of the debates on this forum seriously. It happens so much it is quite laughable mods do nothing to correct this, but I digress this isn't a classroom or anything.

Now for my views on the objectification of men in video games. Long story short, studies explain that the word "objectify" means different things for men and women. They are not the same and this isn't a psychology class, but if you or anyone else interested, just Google a Harvard or any other reputable research report on the word objectify. The fact that so many ill-informed gamers use the word synonymously is ludicrous at best and partly why many never take the fickle comments of gamers seriously.

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#823 Lulu_Lulu
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Sega could not be reached for a Comment... :p

they must be kicking themselves.

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#824 Behardy24
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This thread is not a sticky anymore D:

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#825 schu
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@GunSmith1_basic said:

I would really love to play this game. The problem is that I have almost no interest in MK8, Smash Bros U, Mario 3D world, NSMBU, or anything really. I would like to play that Lego GTA clone I suppose. I would need a deep discount on the system for me to justify buying it now. Maybe after that Splatoon game or another total surprise like Bayonetta 2.

It's not that the games are bad. They're just uninspired.

Have you even played them?

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

Sega could not be reached for a Comment... :p

they must be kicking themselves.

lol. I bet.

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#827  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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Had this Demo for about a Week and did not know I could Screen cap it.

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#828 bunchanumbers
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God its such a beautiful game. I can't believe sega would let this go through their fingers. They oughtta be ashamed of themselves.

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@bunchanumbers: Nintendo what Segadon't :p

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#830 CTR360
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great curent gen game not a reason buy wii-u

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#831  Edited By AznbkdX
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Being honest here... the only character action game I've ever really played not in demo form is dmc4... and I got probably an hour or two into it.

Its for this reason that I kinda thought I just didn't care for the genre. Never cared to play them for whatever reason. I played the w101 demo the first day it came out and honestly thought that while it was good... it just didn't tickle my fancy. Another strike on the genre for me.

The bayo 2 demo however just really connected with me. Weirdly enough I was not half bad at the game at least where an easy mode demo is concerned. This small but meaningful gratification coupled with the games methodical but extremely fast paced and addictive combat made a fan out of me almost instantaneously. It has the feel of a game I might really sink into unlike at least one I mentioned. Dmc is just not my thing (felt too slow honestly... although I havent played much so who knows), while w101 I think was probably just an awkward demo, so I might give the real game a go for cheap later.

I can definitely see where the good reviews come from.

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@CTR360 said:

great curent gen game not a reason buy wii-u

Agreed. Great games are no reason at all to buy game systems!

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Noice. That game would be the main reason for me to get an WiiU. Maybe when its $100 I'll buy one.

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#834 Dibdibdobdobo
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@PurpleMan5000: There wasnt no hype thread so technially there was no hype. I never got around to making it as I started new job which left zero spare hours. The closest I remember where was a collective opinion on the game quite a couple weeks ago was "hyrule warriors vs Bayonetta w. Which will get the better score" and a lot of people gave mixed views.

If was another topic I missed it.

Question : to play number 1 first or number 2?

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@Bigboi500: A Friend told me he skipped Smash Bros. Brawl because he doesn't buy crappy systems. I just told him "So you don't play good games?"

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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Bigboi500: A Friend told me he skipped Smash Bros. Brawl because he doesn't buy crappy systems. I just told him "So you don't play good games?"

lol what good is a good system if there's no games on it? lol that guy.

On a side note my preorder is in. Looking forward to playing this classic game on the definitive place for Bayonetta. Wii U.

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#837  Edited By PurpleMan5000
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@Dibdibdobdobo: If you haven't played the first yet, I would play it first. Not for the story so much as that it is just an amazing game and 1 comes before 2.

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#838 Dibdibdobdobo
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@PurpleMan5000: I love me some PG. First Game I played by them was Mad World. Played Bayonetta, Vanquish, mad world, W101. Still yet to play mgs revengence. Anarchy Reigns was online so never played it as wasnt going to pay for online for one game on my 360 at the time lol.

I'm just trying to decide which to play first is soooo troublesome lol.

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#839  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@Dibdibdobdobo

Play them both, alternate between the 2. It would make for an interesting Exercise juggling two sets of Mechanics in your mind... I mean, you're not playing it for the Story right ?

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#840 GunSmith1_basic
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@schu said:

@GunSmith1_basic said:

I would really love to play this game. The problem is that I have almost no interest in MK8, Smash Bros U, Mario 3D world, NSMBU, or anything really. I would like to play that Lego GTA clone I suppose. I would need a deep discount on the system for me to justify buying it now. Maybe after that Splatoon game or another total surprise like Bayonetta 2.

It's not that the games are bad. They're just uninspired.

Have you even played them?

I've played Mario 3D world and NSMBU (as well as ZombiU, Nintendoland, and Pikmin 3). I know someone with the system. None of those games are great. I've played a lot of Mariokart on previous systems and this new one looks like more of the same. Same with Smash Bros U.

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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Bigboi500: A Friend told me he skipped Smash Bros. Brawl because he doesn't buy crappy systems. I just told him "So you don't play good games?"

he skipped a crappy game too.

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#842  Edited By madsnakehhh
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@jg4xchamp said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Bigboi500: A Friend told me he skipped Smash Bros. Brawl because he doesn't buy crappy systems. I just told him "So you don't play good games?"

he skipped a crappy game too.

The best offline multiplayer from last gen is not a crappy game.

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#843  Edited By Thunderdrone
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Spanish embargo lifted

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Other reviews from the superior continent

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#844 locopatho
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@madsnakehhh said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Bigboi500: A Friend told me he skipped Smash Bros. Brawl because he doesn't buy crappy systems. I just told him "So you don't play good games?"

he skipped a crappy game too.

The best offline multiplayer from last gen is not a crappy game.

Yeah, Halo was fucking awesome :D

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#845 locopatho
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

I don't think most of the great exclusives on the Xbox 360 would have been exclusive if the PS3 had been around in its first year, though. All of the great exclusives on the Wii U are developed or published by Nintendo, which is pretty impressive from a development standpoint. It's going to have 10 before the end of 2014.

Many of them were Microsoft titles actually. In the first two years (same time WiiU has been out) Microsoft provided plenty of good to great to amazing (going by Metacritic) 360 exclusive titles like Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, Project Gotham 3 and 4, Forza 2, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey, Crackdown, Blue Dragon along with Gears of War, Mass Effect and Viva Pinata (which later lost their exclusivity) and plenty of XBLA games.

That's Microsoft easily matching if not beating Nintendo's output exclusives wise , and Xbox 360 ALSO had the benefit of 3rd party exclusives like Dead Rising, Saint's Row, Dead Or Alive, Condemed, etc.

This is all somewhat pointless ancient history of course :P

I just don't agree with the notion that Nintendo have made the most EPIC EXCLUSIVE LINEUP EVAR!!! when actually the Xbox 360, vastly mocked and derided for it's exclusive lineup, easily beats it's over the same timescale of two years.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it :P

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#846 PurpleMan5000
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@locopatho said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

I don't think most of the great exclusives on the Xbox 360 would have been exclusive if the PS3 had been around in its first year, though. All of the great exclusives on the Wii U are developed or published by Nintendo, which is pretty impressive from a development standpoint. It's going to have 10 before the end of 2014.

Many of them were Microsoft titles actually. In the first two years (same time WiiU has been out) Microsoft provided plenty of good to great to amazing (going by Metacritic) 360 exclusive titles like Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, Project Gotham 3 and 4, Forza 2, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey, Crackdown, Blue Dragon along with Gears of War, Mass Effect and Viva Pinata (which later lost their exclusivity) and plenty of XBLA games.

That's Microsoft easily matching if not beating Nintendo's output exclusives wise , and Xbox 360 ALSO had the benefit of 3rd party exclusives like Dead Rising, Saint's Row, Dead Or Alive, Condemed, etc.

This is all somewhat pointless ancient history of course :P

I just don't agree with the notion that Nintendo have made the most EPIC EXCLUSIVE LINEUP EVAR!!! when actually the Xbox 360, vastly mocked and derided for it's exclusive lineup, easily beats it's over the same timescale of two years.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it :P

Well, the Xbox 360 probably did have the best first 2 years of any console ever created. It's just a shame what happened after that, though.

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@Thunderdrone said:

Spanish embargo lifted

Vandal: 10

Meristation: 10

VidaExtra: 9.5

3DJuegos: 9.5

Blogocio: 9.7

Other reviews from the superior continent

Gamereactor Finland - 10

Gamereactor Portugal - 10

Gamereactor UK - 10

Gamereactor Alemania - 9

Gamereactor Norwegian - 8

Gamereactor Sweden - 8

wow 5 more 10s? That puts it at what? 20 10/10 ratings?

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@locopatho: Yeah. There's a reason why the 360 was ahead for most of gen 7.

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I hope my store breaks the street date. Here's to hoping Nintendo isn't forcing any rules.

It isn't gonna sell anyway, Nintendo. Might as well give it early to those that actually care about this IP.

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#850  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

So? Men are 'objectified' far more often by any stupid definition identity politics wielding morons coin. I can't even count the exposed big muscular dudes in games. What's wrong with that? Oh yeah, nothing.

see sw I'm only talking about women.

Don't bring straw man arguments into the mix to justify your point. The issue is simply about the sexualization of the woman Bayonetta period that's it. Why are you bringing men into the picture as the treatment of men in video-games is not the issue here.

I brought up men to expose the inane double standard identity politics idiots wield among other flawed logic. It seems to be working, because your refusal to answer the question (which would put an end to the foundations of your baseless criticisms) is telling.

Additionally, what at all is wrong with sexualizing a character? (Acknowledge this answer as well: nothing).

This discussion makes me want to buy 2 copies of this game.

EDIT: nvm didn't catch your postmodernist drivel a few posts earlier. You already exposed yourself; when you can't objectively identify your issue with the display of Bayonetta, refer to subjectivism, right? Are you implying that men and women live in different versions of reality?

If you want to make a real point in the real world, don't ever try to argue that men and women, blacks, whites, gays etc. live in and experience different realities. There is no 'different' version of reality or history for the matter. I understand that this conception is popular in some schools of thought in academia (thanks/no thanks to the Frankfurt School), where it prevails, but it overall has a deleterious role. Cut out the bs.

Oh, and btw it is not a straw man. Nice try with the formalist stuff though.