Theory: Xbone has hit its graphical limit already

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#1 Posted by XboxFails (81 posts) -

I believe that the Xbone has already hit its graphical ceiling while the PS4's hidden power has yet to be fully exploited.

We've received reports that PS4 ports took 2-3 people to complete. If you were a managing director at a multiplat studio, what would you do? The truth is, PS4 games are unoptimized.

Xbone games, on the other hand, needed 99% of a studio's manpower to and time. You can bet your ass that all multiplat studios and 1st party studios did every single optimization trick in their books to get the Xbone version running at (semi) smoothly at 720p. In addition, the Xbone has no secret sauce like the PS4's massive GPGPU capabilities.

It's incredible that PS4 games look better than Xbone games even while using a small fraction of its power and with unoptimized code while the Xbone is using all its power (Flopza devs) efficiently.

The PS4 is a graphical monster.

#2 Posted by slantedandencha (363 posts) -

you seem unbiased, therefore you must be right.

oh, and kys

#3 Posted by clyde46 (46632 posts) -

No sauce = fake.

#4 Edited by BPoole96 (22802 posts) -

When Uncharted 4 gameplay is shown the lemming eradication will be complete. They wouldn't dare show their face on this board after that

#5 Edited by XboxFails (81 posts) -

@slantedandencha said:

you seem unbiased, therefore you must be right.

oh, and kys

I'm looking at this objectively.

PS4 games took 2-3 people per game. After they were done with the ports, these guys were moved to the Xbone dev team.

PS4 games are unoptimized, yet they run smoothly at 1080p while the Xbone struggles to obtain 720p even with highly optimized code and massive dev manpower. If only 2-3 people were working on the PS4 version, where are all the other coders? You think studios only have 2-3 coders on their team? Average studio has around 100 coders, meaning 90+ of them were working on the Xbone version. lol...

#6 Edited by dommeus (9376 posts) -

@XboxFails said:

I believe that the Xbone has already hit its graphical ceiling while the PS4's hidden power has yet to be fully exploited.

We've received reports that PS4 ports took 2-3 people to complete. If you were a managing director at a multiplat studio, what would you do? The truth is, PS4 games are unoptimized.

Xbone games, on the other hand, needed 99% of a studio's manpower to and time. You can bet your ass that all multiplat studios and 1st party studios did every single optimization trick in their books to get the Xbone version running at (semi) smoothly at 720p. In addition, the Xbone has no secret sauce like the PS4's massive GPGPU capabilities.

It's incredible that PS4 games look better than Xbone games even while using a small fraction of its power and with unoptimized code while the Xbone is using all its power (Flopza devs) efficiently.

The PS4 is a graphical monster.

no

#7 Posted by XboxFails (81 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

No sauce = fake.

Digital Foundry - The Crew article.

#8 Posted by Fishsticklover (247 posts) -

We are going to see games with better graphics than the dark sorcerer on the PS4, that's for sure

#9 Edited by MajesticShea (695 posts) -

couldn't agree more.

#10 Posted by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

@XboxFails said:

"I believe"

This is where everyone should stop reading.

#11 Posted by tdkmillsy (1402 posts) -

totally unbiased, totally based on facts with sources, totally from a credible person and not a fanboy. Like previous post you must be right.

#12 Posted by magicalclick (22836 posts) -

Lolz, lets discuss until the delayed Drive Club comes out. Sure, I bet PS4 version of COD is not optimized because it shutters a lot.

#13 Posted by clyde46 (46632 posts) -

@XboxFails said:

@clyde46 said:

No sauce = fake.

Digital Foundry - The Crew article.

Well put the article in your OP then dumb dumb.

#14 Posted by XboxFails (81 posts) -

@magicalclick said:

Lolz, lets discuss until the delayed Drive Club comes out. Sure, I bet PS4 version of COD is not optimized because it shutters a lot.

DF already confirmed PS4 version's stutter came from running the game higher than 60 FPS. If that's not confirmation to you that the PS4 version wasn't optimized, then you must be riding Ballmer pretty hard.

Activision got 1 person on their dev team to port the game over at 1080p, high settings, and 60+ FPS and didn't even bother checking to see if everything ran smoothly. Activision needed all the manpower to get the Xbone running at an "acceptable" performance.

#15 Posted by danabo (2474 posts) -

@XboxFails said:

@clyde46 said:

No sauce = fake.

Digital Foundry - The Crew article.

"That said, if you really want a taste of what we can expect from the next generation of consoles, Ryse towers over the rest." - DF

#16 Posted by killzowned24 (7345 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

No sauce = fake.

Lot's of its games run in last gen 720p. CoD,BF4,Killer Instinct,Dead Rising..

#17 Posted by tdkmillsy (1402 posts) -

Its pretty obvious the drivers and developer kits for the Xbox One are far from optimised. The complexity of the Xbox One's setup and this lack of optimisation would require more man power while they get to grips with the setup and the better drivers and dev kits come through.

Your objectivity is based on very little knowledge (from what you are saying), I suggest you read up more before stating what can be deemed as fanboy statements.

#18 Edited by clyde46 (46632 posts) -

@killzowned24 said:

@clyde46 said:

No sauce = fake.

Lot's of its games run in last gen 720p. CoD,BF4,Killer Instinct,Dead Rising..

I was referring to the lack of sauce in the TC's OP.

#19 Posted by NFJSupreme (5379 posts) -

Lol I ain't read this bullshit

#20 Edited by Heil68 (45197 posts) -

Sony is the revolutionary gaming console this gen, that's for sure.

#21 Posted by lostrib (37702 posts) -

I have a theory: you're a dumbass

#22 Posted by stereointegrity (10731 posts) -

@XboxFails: not even close it still has the power of the cloud

#23 Posted by Gue1 (10212 posts) -

they could always pre-bake stuff that people don't even notice and improve the art.

#24 Edited by Gue1 (10212 posts) -

@danabo said:

@XboxFails said:

@clyde46 said:

No sauce = fake.

Digital Foundry - The Crew article.

"That said, if you really want a taste of what we can expect from the next generation of consoles, Ryse towers over the rest." - DF

it towers over the rest with blurred image, crushed blacks and awful frame-rate. XD

#25 Edited by XboxFails (81 posts) -

@lostrib said:

I have a theory: you're a dumbass

Now the lemmings pretending to be hermits come out with their butthurt in full force.

What you see so far is what you'll get for the entire gen.

We cows, on the other hand, will experience better graphics, bigger worlds, more interactivity with the environments, more sophisticated AI, etc.

Enjoy your corridor shooters for another 7 years.

#26 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (761 posts) -

@danabo said:

@XboxFails said:

Digital Foundry - The Crew article.

"That said, if you really want a taste of what we can expect from the next generation of consoles, Ryse towers over the rest." - DF

Why are you keep typing that? It is an opinion that you take as fact. When Ryse is corridor beat-em up kind of game, it should look good since there is not much to render, and it's Crytek who is making the game. On top of that, the game runs at a sub 1080p resolution at 30fps. The Xbone is not looking good at all. Killzone Shadow Fall which looks arguably better and has a more open and tactical approach is a sign for more things to come. Theres no dev from MS studio that can match Crytek's talent.

#27 Posted by Newhopes (4587 posts) -

Just ban this guy already.

#28 Edited by Renegade311 (334 posts) -

lol Cows cherry picking DF articles

#29 Posted by KratosYOLOSwag (679 posts) -

I can confirm that everything u said is true.

#30 Posted by jsmoke03 (12929 posts) -

well if it was based on difficulty then the ps3 would have topped off at launch too right? it didnt. xbone will be fine and the graphics are going to get better. 1080p/60fps will be achievable for multi plats soon enough. stop predicting doom after a console has been out like a week

#31 Edited by kitty (114801 posts) -

Neither console at this time has hit the graphical limit. How many times we hear this the previous gens only to later see something that looked even better come out on the platform?

#32 Posted by Pray_to_me (2875 posts) -

@kratosyoloswag said:

I can confirm that everything u said is true.

I agree with this fakeboy. 720P on last gen 360 ports confirms Xbone is weaksauce.

#33 Posted by Ginosaji (965 posts) -

Hardware has no "hidden power." We know what both consoles are capable of, and they're both architecturally similar to PCs, which developers are already familiar with. Probably the only significant area for improvement on either console is better multithreading to take advantage of the 8 core processors. The rest will just be smoke and mirrors as it has always been (lighting baked into textures, motion blur to hide low frame rates, etc.)

#34 Posted by kingtito (5026 posts) -

@XboxFails said:

@slantedandencha said:

you seem unbiased, therefore you must be right.

oh, and kys

I'm looking at this objectively.

PS4 games took 2-3 people per game. After they were done with the ports, these guys were moved to the Xbone dev team.

PS4 games are unoptimized, yet they run smoothly at 1080p while the Xbone struggles to obtain 720p even with highly optimized code and massive dev manpower. If only 2-3 people were working on the PS4 version, where are all the other coders? You think studios only have 2-3 coders on their team? Average studio has around 100 coders, meaning 90+ of them were working on the Xbone version. lol...

Sure you are kid....and with that name I'm sure everyone else will believe you.

Can we get this person banned already? Come on mods

#35 Posted by XboxFails (81 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@XboxFails said:

@slantedandencha said:

you seem unbiased, therefore you must be right.

oh, and kys

I'm looking at this objectively.

PS4 games took 2-3 people per game. After they were done with the ports, these guys were moved to the Xbone dev team.

PS4 games are unoptimized, yet they run smoothly at 1080p while the Xbone struggles to obtain 720p even with highly optimized code and massive dev manpower. If only 2-3 people were working on the PS4 version, where are all the other coders? You think studios only have 2-3 coders on their team? Average studio has around 100 coders, meaning 90+ of them were working on the Xbone version. lol...

Sure you are kid....and with that name I'm sure everyone else will believe you.

Can we get this person banned already? Come on mods

Flagged for trolling and posting unproductive nonsense.

#36 Posted by kingtito (5026 posts) -

@XboxFails said:

@kingtito said:

@XboxFails said:

@slantedandencha said:

you seem unbiased, therefore you must be right.

oh, and kys

I'm looking at this objectively.

PS4 games took 2-3 people per game. After they were done with the ports, these guys were moved to the Xbone dev team.

PS4 games are unoptimized, yet they run smoothly at 1080p while the Xbone struggles to obtain 720p even with highly optimized code and massive dev manpower. If only 2-3 people were working on the PS4 version, where are all the other coders? You think studios only have 2-3 coders on their team? Average studio has around 100 coders, meaning 90+ of them were working on the Xbone version. lol...

Sure you are kid....and with that name I'm sure everyone else will believe you.

Can we get this person banned already? Come on mods

Flagged for trolling and posting unproductive nonsense.

Flagged for being a moron.

Seriously mods need to ban this idiot

#37 Posted by Phazevariance (10981 posts) -

Threads like this make me laugh. Sure, currently released games are mostly multiplatform with last generation consoles, thus they are limited by last gen consoles graphics limitations still, and the exclusives out so far were in development before the hardware of newgen consoles was even finished, but hey, lets not even consider any of that and claim x1 has maxed its graphics already. Yeah logic!

#38 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27891 posts) -

No links or proof = locked.