The saddest truth of all regarding the XBones launch.

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#1 Edited by Shewgenja (7923 posts) -

It's not ResolutionGate.

It's not the DRM and subsequent reversal

No, it's not even that "Power of the Cloud" distortion thrown in your faces.

It's the fact that for millions of XBox-only gamers, they have been given literally nothing else to be excited about in the year 2013. For the cost of having some unfounded hatred for Sony and Nintendo, the last real notable game to come to the XBox only has been this:

Widely regarded as a lower-scoring B-Team version of the franchise. It is very little wonder that the hand full of die-hard XBox supporters here in this forum and many others are parroting the vaunted "superior launch line up of the XBox One" as if that is a massive feather in their cap. Oh, indeed, DriveClub got pushed back from launch which is oh-so-convenient to point out at each and every possible turn but it belies an often unstated point.

What if Sony decided to roll back it's development resources for the past two years to focus only on the PS4 launch? If the Playstation simply decided to roll up the carpet and call it a day after Ni No Kuni launched this year? I dare say that it is FAR and away more impressive that Sony has given you a reason to keep playing your PS3 in 2013 than it is for them to have front-loaded a console launch day to a game-starved fanbase. They literally treat the gamer like a little forest creature they can smoke out of a hole at their beck and whim.

TLDR version: It's probably a good thing the PS4 is coming with an HDMI cable, because after all the bickering the XBox fanbase did over the PS3 not coming with one (well, at least on the forums I visited at the time), at least Sony really is giving you a reason to keep the PS3 plugged in. Transversely, what is the best you will do with a 360? Plug it in through the HDMI-in port for giggles for a while and then it will end up in your garage eventually? Don't lie to kick it. We really know the score.

#2 Posted by Negro-y-Azul (79 posts) -

The last Xbox 360 game of note was the Game of the Year, GTAV. It sold massive amounts so it's safe to say 360 gamers had a great time with it.

#3 Posted by Shewgenja (7923 posts) -

The last Xbox 360 game of note was the Game of the Year, GTAV. It sold massive amounts so it's safe to say 360 gamers had a great time with it.

PS3 version was a figment of our collective imaginations? Funny that, as many sites proclaimed it ran better on the PS3, too.

#4 Edited by freedomfreak (38150 posts) -

It gave me the best zombie I've ever played.

I see no reason to get rid of my 360. There's still many games I need to play. I don't just go with the times and gens. I play whatever I want to play, whenever I want to play.

#5 Posted by Negro-y-Azul (79 posts) -

@negro-y-azul said:

The last Xbox 360 game of note was the Game of the Year, GTAV. It sold massive amounts so it's safe to say 360 gamers had a great time with it.

PS3 version was a figment of our collective imaginations? Funny that, as many sites proclaimed it ran better on the PS3, too.

It hurts to read such idiocy.

#6 Posted by Shewgenja (7923 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@negro-y-azul said:

The last Xbox 360 game of note was the Game of the Year, GTAV. It sold massive amounts so it's safe to say 360 gamers had a great time with it.

PS3 version was a figment of our collective imaginations? Funny that, as many sites proclaimed it ran better on the PS3, too.

It hurts to read such idiocy.

Does it? Because, I didn't even point out that the PS3 out-sold the 360 for the first time in many months in the US because of said GTAV.. but, believe whatever you're going to believe, sir.

#7 Posted by Suppaman100 (3573 posts) -

The 360 is dead.

The Xbone will have the same fate as the Xbox and 360. It will be abandoned after the first years.

#8 Edited by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (1967 posts) -

@negro-y-azul said:

@Shewgenja said:

@negro-y-azul said:

The last Xbox 360 game of note was the Game of the Year, GTAV. It sold massive amounts so it's safe to say 360 gamers had a great time with it.

PS3 version was a figment of our collective imaginations? Funny that, as many sites proclaimed it ran better on the PS3, too.

It hurts to read such idiocy.

Does it? Because, I didn't even point out that the PS3 out-sold the 360 for the first time in many months in the US because of said GTAV.. but, believe whatever you're going to believe, sir.

Aah system wars.. all numbers and no logic. It didnt' sell that many more copies on PS3 and the reason it sold more on the PS3 was because they made a good PS3 bundle that came with GTA V.

#9 Edited by edidili (3446 posts) -

The saddest truth for XO is the lack of games 360 had this year?

I don't get it.

#10 Edited by SinjinSmythe (789 posts) -

It's not ResolutionGate.

It's not the DRM and subsequent reversal

No, it's not even that "Power of the Cloud" distortion thrown in your faces.

It's the fact that for millions of XBox-only gamers, they have been given literally nothing else to be excited about in the year 2013. For the cost of having some unfounded hatred for Sony and Nintendo, the last real notable game to come to the XBox only has been this:

Widely regarded as a lower-scoring B-Team version of the franchise. It is very little wonder that the hand full of die-hard XBox supporters here in this forum and many others are parroting the vaunted "superior launch line up of the XBox One" as if that is a massive feather in their cap. Oh, indeed, DriveClub got pushed back from launch which is oh-so-convenient to point out at each and every possible turn but it belies an often unstated point.

What if Sony decided to roll back it's development resources for the past two years to focus only on the PS4 launch? If the Playstation simply decided to roll up the carpet and call it a day after Ni No Kuni launched this year? I dare say that it is FAR and away more impressive that Sony has given you a reason to keep playing your PS3 in 2013 than it is for them to have front-loaded a console launch day to a game-starved fanbase. They literally treat the gamer like a little forest creature they can smoke out of a hole at their beck and whim.

TLDR version: It's probably a good thing the PS4 is coming with an HDMI cable, because after all the bickering the XBox fanbase did over the PS3 not coming with one (well, at least on the forums I visited at the time), at least Sony really is giving you a reason to keep the PS3 plugged in. Transversely, what is the best you will do with a 360? Plug it in through the HDMI-in port for giggles for a while and then it will end up in your garage eventually? Don't lie to kick it. We really know the score.

Oh you mentioned DRM? Funny you should say that. Here is Sony's Patent File.

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=20130007892&OS=20130007892&RS=20130007892

will make a thread on this. Thanks for reminding me.

#11 Edited by Shewgenja (7923 posts) -

@edidili said:

The saddest truth for XO is the lack of games 360 had this year?

I don't get it.

The hype is artificially inflated for XBones launch lineup. For PS3 owners, no one is holding a gun to their head and saying "no games for you in 2013 or foreverty ever" for not buying a PS4.

#12 Posted by edidili (3446 posts) -

@edidili said:

The saddest truth for XO is the lack of games 360 had this year?

I don't get it.

The hype is artificially inflated for XBones launch lineup. For PS3 owners, no one is holding a gun to their head and saying "no games for you in 2013 or foreverty ever" for not buying a PS4.

I still don't get why that is a sad truth for XO. It may be sad for 360 that all the games planned for it ended up on XO but for XO, is the opposite of sad actually.

#13 Posted by juarbles (801 posts) -

Lems are laughable things.

#14 Posted by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (1967 posts) -

A bad 360 year means a good XBox One year. A good PS3 year means a bad PS4 year. Take your pick

#15 Posted by TheRealBigRich (688 posts) -

Im happy there is so many fortune tellers that know the future. At any rate you can tell Sony fans care more about the xbox one than they do about the PS4 by how many X1 topics made by Sony fans

#16 Edited by xxyetixx (1205 posts) -

What are you talking about 360 gave me a new call of duty game every year since 2006, great online experience, Madden every year since launch, and even had a few good games like GeoW, DR, and other great games that were multiplat that I got to play on their great online service. Yeah I am a "brogamer" I suppose or casual, not hardcore which is a crime on these forums, I'm part of the problem with gaming, lol...

I want, KI always loved the game can't wait to get my hands on the new one, gonna get the pack that gives me the original version for the nostalgia. Gonna get COD ghost, twice for Xbox 360 and when I make the leap to X1. I got a 6 and 4 year old that love Kinect games like ninja fruit, elmo, kinect sports. I see what's on netflix every now and again. I gives me all I need, I don't play single player games anymore, sometimes a go almost a month with out touching my 360.

So here around March I'll be getting something, most likely X1 mostly because of KI. I don't care about pixels and resolution, I've seen the videos and games look on par with each other, no deal breaker differences, and by March there will be plenty of vids, and I can see both in stores side by side and if my mind changes and I wanna save a $100 so be it, but it's gotta be a huge difference to pull me away from KI. Titanfall also helps Ones case a lot too.

#17 Posted by donalbane (16136 posts) -

@Shewgenja:

Are you kidding me? There's a ton of cross generation games that frankly seem to have been made with the older hardware in mind. Plenty to play on Xbox 360 for the coming months. Now the Wii U... that's another story.

#18 Posted by blackace (19697 posts) -

@Shewgenja: Didn't read your bias opinionated blog. Not SW material.

#19 Edited by Snugenz (11390 posts) -

The saddest thing about the Xbone launch is how insecure and asshurt it makes cows. I swear you cows care more about the Xbone than lems do, you make a helluva lot more threads about it.

#20 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

One of my main reasons for sticking with Sony is because I can expect quality software throughout its entire lifecylce. Hats off to them for properly supporting their base. That's one of the biggest hurdles from me being an Xboxer - my memory.

#21 Edited by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

No. The sad truth is Cows talk about the XBONE more than Lems do. It is almost like Cows are upset people are gonna have a good time playing Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 or something.

#22 Posted by Heil68 (42573 posts) -

Well it's sad that the 360 only got one exclusive all year long, but the PS3 has been keeping me busy. With the PS4 coming out very soon, I'll be playing that the most and will be getting pretty much every 3rd party game I decide to buy on consoles for it.

#23 Posted by shawn30 (4288 posts) -

It's not ResolutionGate.

It's not the DRM and subsequent reversal

No, it's not even that "Power of the Cloud" distortion thrown in your faces.

It's the fact that for millions of XBox-only gamers, they have been given literally nothing else to be excited about in the year 2013. For the cost of having some unfounded hatred for Sony and Nintendo, the last real notable game to come to the XBox only has been this:

Widely regarded as a lower-scoring B-Team version of the franchise. It is very little wonder that the hand full of die-hard XBox supporters here in this forum and many others are parroting the vaunted "superior launch line up of the XBox One" as if that is a massive feather in their cap. Oh, indeed, DriveClub got pushed back from launch which is oh-so-convenient to point out at each and every possible turn but it belies an often unstated point.

What if Sony decided to roll back it's development resources for the past two years to focus only on the PS4 launch? If the Playstation simply decided to roll up the carpet and call it a day after Ni No Kuni launched this year? I dare say that it is FAR and away more impressive that Sony has given you a reason to keep playing your PS3 in 2013 than it is for them to have front-loaded a console launch day to a game-starved fanbase. They literally treat the gamer like a little forest creature they can smoke out of a hole at their beck and whim.

TLDR version: It's probably a good thing the PS4 is coming with an HDMI cable, because after all the bickering the XBox fanbase did over the PS3 not coming with one (well, at least on the forums I visited at the time), at least Sony really is giving you a reason to keep the PS3 plugged in. Transversely, what is the best you will do with a 360? Plug it in through the HDMI-in port for giggles for a while and then it will end up in your garage eventually? Don't lie to kick it. We really know the score.

Wow, you're trying really hard to downplay the growing sentiment that the difference between the current PS4 and Xbox One games is very small. And you're not doing a great job of that. As for the games, so long as my 360 had new games for me to play I was fine. But I do agree the PS3 has had a better line-up in 2013. Certainly better than the PS4 launch lineup which is anemic at best.

#24 Posted by Suppaman100 (3573 posts) -

No. The sad truth is Cows talk about the XBONE more than Lems do. It is almost like Cows are upset people are gonna have a good time playing Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 or something.

Lol Flop DLC instinct and a mediocre zombie game.

Nobody is jealous about those games.

Wouldn't even want to play them on sucky hardware like Xbone anyway. have fun with your sub 1080p/30 fps inferior games though.

LOL

#25 Edited by Negro-y-Azul (79 posts) -

@negro-y-azul said:

@Shewgenja said:

@negro-y-azul said:

The last Xbox 360 game of note was the Game of the Year, GTAV. It sold massive amounts so it's safe to say 360 gamers had a great time with it.

PS3 version was a figment of our collective imaginations? Funny that, as many sites proclaimed it ran better on the PS3, too.

It hurts to read such idiocy.

Does it? Because, I didn't even point out that the PS3 out-sold the 360 for the first time in many months in the US because of said GTAV.. but, believe whatever you're going to believe, sir.

I repeat. Idiocy. Who the hell cares about sales. Go brag to the sheep with their Wii sales.

Idiocy is when you try and reduce the entire system to it's exclusives when the reality is that 360 and PS3 were both absolutely defined by multiplats. It's hilarious to see people going on about Gears Judgement when everyone knows 360 fans were playing GTA and Bioshock and Crysis and Tomb Raider and all the other great games this year.

Try saying your "Xbox has no games" theory to an actual gamer and they'll laugh at what an idiot you are.

#26 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8140 posts) -

Xbox has such an amazingly diverse backlog of exclusives or games shared with PC but not PS3 it's not even funny to make sweeping generalizations like that. Like for example, I'm playing Battlestations Pacific right now - a WW2 hybrid of strategy and air/naval/submarine combat which scored 8.0 on GS and didn't come out on PS3.

#27 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (8140 posts) -

Xbox has such an amazingly diverse backlog of exclusives or games shared with PC but not PS3 it's not even funny to make sweeping generalizations like that. Like for example, I'm playing Battlestations Pacific right now - a WW2 hybrid of strategy and air/naval/submarine combat which scored 8.0 on GS and didn't come out on PS3.

#28 Posted by cainetao11 (15809 posts) -

It's not ResolutionGate.

It's not the DRM and subsequent reversal

No, it's not even that "Power of the Cloud" distortion thrown in your faces.

It's the fact that for millions of XBox-only gamers, they have been given literally nothing else to be excited about in the year 2013. For the cost of having some unfounded hatred for Sony and Nintendo, the last real notable game to come to the XBox only has been this:

Widely regarded as a lower-scoring B-Team version of the franchise. It is very little wonder that the hand full of die-hard XBox supporters here in this forum and many others are parroting the vaunted "superior launch line up of the XBox One" as if that is a massive feather in their cap. Oh, indeed, DriveClub got pushed back from launch which is oh-so-convenient to point out at each and every possible turn but it belies an often unstated point.

What if Sony decided to roll back it's development resources for the past two years to focus only on the PS4 launch? If the Playstation simply decided to roll up the carpet and call it a day after Ni No Kuni launched this year? I dare say that it is FAR and away more impressive that Sony has given you a reason to keep playing your PS3 in 2013 than it is for them to have front-loaded a console launch day to a game-starved fanbase. They literally treat the gamer like a little forest creature they can smoke out of a hole at their beck and whim.

TLDR version: It's probably a good thing the PS4 is coming with an HDMI cable, because after all the bickering the XBox fanbase did over the PS3 not coming with one (well, at least on the forums I visited at the time), at least Sony really is giving you a reason to keep the PS3 plugged in. Transversely, what is the best you will do with a 360? Plug it in through the HDMI-in port for giggles for a while and then it will end up in your garage eventually? Don't lie to kick it. We really know the score.

No. I have played GTA5, Blacklist, Bioshock infinite this year on my 360. See these are called G A M E S. And they count when amassing a library. Yes you can play them elsewhere, but you can play them on 360 as well. And you said "Xbox only gamers" so that's probably what they played these games on. The saddest thing about the X1 launch imo is the fact that PS4 only buyers care so much about it.

#29 Posted by MFDOOM1983 (8453 posts) -

Somehow you forgot about all the great 3rd party and xbla games that graced 360 this year. Sure, its line-up doesn't come close to PC or PS3, but it's not as bad as you try to make it out to be.

#30 Edited by VERTIGO47 (6240 posts) -

XBOX 360 Rocks, dude! There's plenty of life left in it. Hell, I've yet to buy so many games in XBLA and cheap physical games available now. Same goes for PS3.

#31 Edited by silversix_ (13543 posts) -

this is one of the three main reasons im quitting MS boat and probably never coming back. people thinking that MS will be decent with exclusives like they're at launch two years down the road are stupid and are dreaming. from launch to Fall 2014 its gonna be decent but be sure if the console becomes popular that exclusive titles is the thing MS will forget first just like what they did when they've seen Kinect success. Enjoy your year one exclusives because for the next 8-9 years it'll be 1-3 exclusives per year and we all know which they're *cough* Halo, Forza, Gears *cough*

#32 Edited by j_assassin (878 posts) -

360 is dead, xbone is not out yet, how can somebody be a lemming right now??

#33 Posted by leandrro (679 posts) -

It's not ResolutionGate.

It's not the DRM and subsequent reversal

No, it's not even that "Power of the Cloud" distortion thrown in your faces.

It's the fact that for millions of XBox-only gamers, they have been given literally nothing else to be excited about in the year 2013. For the cost of having some unfounded hatred for Sony and Nintendo, the last real notable game to come to the XBox only has been this:

Widely regarded as a lower-scoring B-Team version of the franchise. It is very little wonder that the hand full of die-hard XBox supporters here in this forum and many others are parroting the vaunted "superior launch line up of the XBox One" as if that is a massive feather in their cap. Oh, indeed, DriveClub got pushed back from launch which is oh-so-convenient to point out at each and every possible turn but it belies an often unstated point.

What if Sony decided to roll back it's development resources for the past two years to focus only on the PS4 launch? If the Playstation simply decided to roll up the carpet and call it a day after Ni No Kuni launched this year? I dare say that it is FAR and away more impressive that Sony has given you a reason to keep playing your PS3 in 2013 than it is for them to have front-loaded a console launch day to a game-starved fanbase. They literally treat the gamer like a little forest creature they can smoke out of a hole at their beck and whim.

TLDR version: It's probably a good thing the PS4 is coming with an HDMI cable, because after all the bickering the XBox fanbase did over the PS3 not coming with one (well, at least on the forums I visited at the time), at least Sony really is giving you a reason to keep the PS3 plugged in. Transversely, what is the best you will do with a 360? Plug it in through the HDMI-in port for giggles for a while and then it will end up in your garage eventually? Don't lie to kick it. We really know the score.

the saddest thing about xbox one is that its in fact the next gen's Wii

#34 Edited by Multipass35 (295 posts) -

Probably the fact it's better then PS4

#35 Posted by Szminsky (1433 posts) -

You have a point about Sony still supporting previous consoles with stellar exclusives.

#36 Posted by Suppaman100 (3573 posts) -

Probably the fact it's better then PS4

You're wrong 2 times.

It's "than" not then. And PS4 is better.

#37 Posted by Netret0120 (1886 posts) -

That is why Sony is simply better.

This year i have enjoyed TLOU immensely and will be getting GT6. I can't remember the last exclusive to come out for the 360

#38 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (4991 posts) -

@blackace said:

@Shewgenja: Didn't read your bias opinionated blog. Not SW material.

Its exactly SW material. It just hurt you that's all.. You wouldn't know if its biased or opinionated if you didnt read it ;)

Self owned.

#39 Edited by Douevenlift_bro (4991 posts) -

@multipass35 said:

Probably the fact it's better then PS4

You're wrong 2 times.

It's "than" not then. And PS4 is better.

Ouch!

#40 Edited by dotWithShoes (4796 posts) -

No. I have played GTA5, Blacklist, Bioshock infinite this year on my 360. See these are called G A M E S. And they count when amassing a library. Yes you can play them elsewhere, but you can play them on 360 as well. And you said "Xbox only gamers" so that's probably what they played these games on. The saddest thing about the X1 launch imo is the fact that PS4 only buyers care so much about it.

I really wish there was a "like" button on these forums. Exactly what I was thinking.

#41 Edited by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

@timbers_WSU said:

No. The sad truth is Cows talk about the XBONE more than Lems do. It is almost like Cows are upset people are gonna have a good time playing Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 or something.

Lol Flop DLC instinct and a mediocre zombie game.

Nobody is jealous about those games.

Wouldn't even want to play them on sucky hardware like Xbone anyway. have fun with your sub 1080p/30 fps inferior games though.

LOL

I often wonder if imature idiots know they are indeed imature idiots.

#42 Edited by Shewgenja (7923 posts) -

@dotWithShoes said:

@cainetao11 said:

No. I have played GTA5, Blacklist, Bioshock infinite this year on my 360. See these are called G A M E S. And they count when amassing a library. Yes you can play them elsewhere, but you can play them on 360 as well. And you said "Xbox only gamers" so that's probably what they played these games on. The saddest thing about the X1 launch imo is the fact that PS4 only buyers care so much about it.

I really wish there was a "like" button on these forums. Exactly what I was thinking.

Oh, so they count on the XBox 360 but in all of the Launch List Wars, all of a sudden the PS4s launch lineup doesn't count? Thread is about exclusives. Don't obfuscate. Then the XBone really doesn't have a leg to stand on. Unless you're willing to admit 22 games is a whole lot of games to play and leave it at that.

#43 Edited by clone01 (24127 posts) -

@timbers_WSU said:

No. The sad truth is Cows talk about the XBONE more than Lems do. It is almost like Cows are upset people are gonna have a good time playing Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 or something.

Lol Flop DLC instinct and a mediocre zombie game.

Nobody is jealous about those games.

Wouldn't even want to play them on sucky hardware like Xbone anyway. have fun with your sub 1080p/30 fps inferior games though.

LOL

What are you, 12?

#44 Posted by blackace (19697 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

The saddest thing about the Xbone launch is how insecure and asshurt it makes cows. I swear you cows care more about the Xbone than lems do, you make a helluva lot more threads about it.

This ^^^^^^ X's 10. lol!! Cows are actually making the Xbox One more popular. The more you talk about it, the more people get interested in it and want to know more about it. No wonder XB1 preorders have increased.

#45 Posted by blackace (19697 posts) -

@blackace said:

@Shewgenja: Didn't read your bias opinionated blog. Not SW material.

Its exactly SW material. It just hurt you that's all.. You wouldn't know if its biased or opinionated if you didnt read it ;)

Self owned.

How can something hurt me that I didn't read. lol!! Get a life idiot. Oh wait you already have one. Trolling SW 7/24 and bad mouthing the XB1 and Microsoft. That's your job and life. Your payment is kissing Sony's @$$ for an hour. lol!!

Shewgenia should BLOG IT next time. no one wants to read his bias rants.

#46 Posted by always_explicit (2619 posts) -

I think the real question here is...why do you care soooo much.

Caring enough to spend X amount of time writing a huge post about a console you hate just seems so...pathetic. Just buy a PS4 man. Just do it and maybe go get some air.

#47 Posted by kingoflife9 (1987 posts) -

They abandoned the 360 like we all knew they would, and why not?? Its been out for 8 years already!!!!

#48 Posted by always_explicit (2619 posts) -

@kingoflife9: Thats the same amount of time you have been out of the womb, sorta wish they had abandoned you.

#49 Posted by tdkmillsy (1227 posts) -

All in all Sony and Microsoft have similar numbers of 1st party developers infact Microsoft has more after recent purchases.

The simple truth is more Sony developers have developed for ps3 than ps4 in the last year. While more Microsoft developers have developed for xbox one than 360. End result more games on ps3 and xbox one this year than others.

#50 Edited by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

I tend to agree. There has been no reason to turn my Xbox 360 on for months.