The rise and fall of Xbox(proof inside)

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#1  Edited By Sagemode87
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MS has a lot on their hands right now. After giving away 2 games in September (Madden bundle with an extra game) , their sales was still doubled by PS4. This isn't good because we need competition, no one wants a monopoly. MS was doing so well last gen. Despite being outsold, they went the distance. Now it's a blowout. What can they do to stop Sony from monopolizing?

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#2  Edited By BldgIrsh
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I was told their was proof inside. But all I see is a fool spouting nonsense.

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#3 silversix_
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I heard an Asus router is supposed to save Xbone so don't worry, Xbox brand will rise again

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#4 CrownKingArthur
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you're forgetting the exciting battle for second place

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#5  Edited By SakusEnvoy
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It'll be interesting to see how much longer Microsoft sticks with the $399 price point. They can't cut price below that because they'd be losing money on each console sold, but the bundles/free games don't seem to be working against the competition (no doubt a $399 MCC + One bundle would work well, but MS seems to want those all to be software sales in America).

Sony redesigned/rebranded the PS3 to be slimmer, more appealing and cheaper to produce in less than 3 years. Microsoft will have to do the same to stay competitive with the One, but I'm sure they'd like to wait until 2016 if possible. In the meantime, they'll probably just continue trying to get by on bundles of various sorts, and that'll lead to a significant gap with the PS4 by 2016. By then, Sony could easily price match whatever the One does.

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#6  Edited By blamix99
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it's gonna be

PS4>>>WiiU>>>X1 this gen

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#8 HalcyonScarlet
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How does less sales equate to "the fall". X1 has pretty healthy sales right now. And it will improve in those regions with poor sales when they drop the price and that's all they need to do really.

It has helped in the UK. The price has gone from £429 to £329. Games are starting to come out and I predict the price will start to drop globally in the first quarter of next year. Does that mean it'll do better than the PS4, probably not, but it will do well.

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@blamix99 said:

it's gonna be

PS4>>>WiiU>>>X1 this gen

Accoring to sale, PS4 >>>>> X1 >>> WII U

give 6 month and Xbox One has outsold Wii U(even without japan).

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@blamix99 said:

it's gonna be

PS4>>>WiiU>>>X1 this gen

as it should be, people are finally learning.

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#11  Edited By lostrib
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Yet another thread/post from tc without any actual proof

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#12  Edited By princeofshapeir
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Monopoly? What? This isn't a monopoly at all. Sony isn't the sole producer in the console industry and doesn't freely set the price the PS4. There is zero chance of Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo holding a "monopoly" in the market. The gap between the PS4 and XB1 won't even be as large as it was between the PS2 and XB.

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#13 Evo_nine
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wheres the proof you prick

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#14  Edited By Promised_Trini
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I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of these threads.

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#15  Edited By lamprey263
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@Sagemode87

If MS wants to capture the attention of gamers again they're going to need to be leaders again like they were last gen.

MS did a lot last gen to earn recognition for itself. They didn't do anything entirely original, but as far as consoles go they set the pace for enhancing console standards with built in HDDs, built in wireless control functionality, first HD console, beefed up console hardware helped bridge gap between console and PC development, streamlined online functionality, friends lists, party chat, demos, videos, apps like Netflix and Hulu, online stores, indie games, selling premium and arcade titles. Sony really only played catch up. But with the current next gen of gaming there really wasn't any new territory to explore. So, if MS wants to regain attention they're going to have to be bold in capturing peoples attentions. Especially since they dropped the ball on the hardware end.

First and biggest thing they can do is curtail any worries gamers have over rising gaming costs by announcing they'll be enforcing a $50 cap on game prices, that would send shockwaves across the gaming community. Furthermore, if they were to co-announce a $10 discount to digital premium titles off their MSRP, so new games go for $40 digitally, that could be huge. This would not only work in favor of supporting their platform, but it'd also go real far in supporting consumer confidence digital retail, as well as curtailing the used game industry which has been hammering developers and publishers.

They could take further steps to support gamers from their end, people still don't like paying for online, so MS can also work in favor of helping gamers out on that end while helping themselves. A console's success is often times measured by its software attach rates, so to help that out a great deal each game released for the XBO should come with a redeem code that allows for three-months of Xbox Live Gold membership. In order to keep their membership up without paying for it directly. Gamers would have to buy 4 games a year, and say at least a 5 year life cycle for the XBO, that's 20 games to stay current on their XBLG subscriptions. If gamers stuck to buying games to stay current on XBLG then attach rates could be double what they are now, which between Xbox 360 and PS3 is roughly 10 games per console.

These are two things I think MS could really do to help themselves out of an unfortunate but selft induced lull in garnering next gen gaming market share.

The upside of them doing so is eventually Sony and Nintendo will also follow suit and maybe try to out-compete from their end along similar grounds, which frankly is what the industry needs. And again it'd really help MS to be the first one to go this route.

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#16 sukraj
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No proof at all

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#17  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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Bragging about second place peasant?

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#18 35cent
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I always worry when a thread title says 'proof inside'. They're always filled with absolute waffle.

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#20  Edited By ps4pete
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@Sagemode87 said:

MS has a lot on their hands right now. After giving away 2 games in September (Madden bundle with an extra game) , their sales was still doubled by PS4. This isn't good because we need competition, no one wants a monopoly. MS was doing so well last gen. Despite being outsold, they went the distance. Now it's a blowout. What can they do to stop Sony from monopolizing?

MS have sold c 5 Million Xbox One's - shareholders and insiders are quite happy with that. It's only fanboys that seem to be bothered.

Tell me this; If you earn $1,000,000 dollars a year, would you be sad because someone else out there was earning $2,000,000?*

*That's a rhetorical question, though I don't expect you get to understand what that is based on the level of stupidity shown through your posts; so it's there for the benefit of other readers.

PS: It's clear why you have a cock as an avatar.

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#21  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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Well good news for cows! This finally takes the heat off of the 5Club debacle. Kind of.

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#22 MonsieurX
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Still waiting on any kind of proof

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#23 SecretPolice
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@MonsieurX said:

Still waiting on any kind of proof

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#24 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Um, you want to talk about monopolies? Ever heard of a company called Microsoft?

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#25  Edited By hehe101
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Good hopefully that means bloodborne will just be the only game ever made please release more sequels.

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#27  Edited By indzman
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@locopatho said:

The rise and fall of Xbox(proof **** inside)

Post of the day award!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

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@silversix_ said:

I heard an Asus router is supposed to save Xbone so don't worry, Xbox brand will rise again

Yeah that Asus Router really has me worried..

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#29 SambaLele
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There won't be a monopoly. First because I doubt MS would go out of this business even if the X1 didn't profit in the end; second, we still have Nintendo; third, even if MS for some reason decides they had enough with the console industry, there are other companies that could fill that gap and would consider that an opportunity to enter the competition.

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#30 tormentos
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@Evo_nine said:

wheres the proof you prick

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/official-npd-september-thread-31625226/?page=1

All the proof you need of the fall of the XBO is there..

I have to warn you it may not look pretty and you may not like what you see.

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#32 GamersJustGame
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@Sagemode87 said:

MS has a lot on their hands right now. After giving away 2 games in September (Madden bundle with an extra game) , their sales was still doubled by PS4. This isn't good because we need competition, no one wants a monopoly. MS was doing so well last gen. Despite being outsold, they went the distance. Now it's a blowout. What can they do to stop Sony from monopolizing?

Where is the proof?

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whehehehe love these threads

my job is done

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#34  Edited By Heil68
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It can be traced back to 2009 when MS did the unthinkable..They decided to drop core and go upwards of 65% casual with Kinect(lol) to chase the Wii's pot of gold.

If you look back going to the joke of the industry, Kinect(lol) was the turning point.

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#35 Sagemode87
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Well good news for cows! This finally takes the heat off of the 5Club debacle. Kind of.

Cool, keep going on about a score from this site. Cows will point and laugh at X1 failing. Win win.. ... I guess.

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#37  Edited By Shewgenja
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@Sagemode87 said:

MS has a lot on their hands right now. After giving away 2 games in September (Madden bundle with an extra game) , their sales was still doubled by PS4. This isn't good because we need competition, no one wants a monopoly. MS was doing so well last gen. Despite being outsold, they went the distance. Now it's a blowout. What can they do to stop Sony from monopolizing?

There will always be competition for the videogame market. It's an industry bigger than Hollywood. Relax with all this "we need competition" bullshit. You act like Steambox isn't just around the corner.

We don't need MS. Hell, it might be bad for gaming to have a big player that can just sit in the corner and absorb capital losses for the lols while keeping someone leaner and more competitive out of their market space.

Does anyone ever think of that? Xbox is the equivalent of that "special" kid who sits in the corner eating glue and making the other kids nervous just because he happened to have his growth spurts early or failed a few years so he's growing facial hair already.

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#38  Edited By Sagemode87
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@bldgirsh said:

I was told their was proof inside. But all I see is a fool spouting nonsense.

The proof is PS4 doubled X1s sales last month despite MS giving away 2 free games. Geez, what are you so angry about. I'm asking a legitimate question here....

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#39 Shewgenja
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TV... Anybody?

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#40 Sagemode87
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@Shewgenja said:

@Sagemode87 said:

MS has a lot on their hands right now. After giving away 2 games in September (Madden bundle with an extra game) , their sales was still doubled by PS4. This isn't good because we need competition, no one wants a monopoly. MS was doing so well last gen. Despite being outsold, they went the distance. Now it's a blowout. What can they do to stop Sony from monopolizing?

There will always be competition for the videogame market. It's an industry bigger than Hollywood. Relax with all this "we need competition" bullshit. You act like Steambox isn't just around the corner.

We don't need MS. Hell, it might be bad for gaming to have a big player that can just sit in the corner and absorb capital losses for the lols while keeping someone leaner and more competitive out of their market space.

Does anyone ever think of that? Xbox is the equivalent of that "special" kid who sits in the corner eating glue and making the other kids nervous just because he happened to have his growth spurts early or failed a few years so he's growing facial hair already.

I agree, MS hasn't contributed much. The industry may be better off without them. Sony is on a different level and it shows. At least Sony contributes something to the industry.

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#41  Edited By SoftwareGeek
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@tormentos said:

@silversix_ said:

I heard an Asus router is supposed to save Xbone so don't worry, Xbox brand will rise again

Yeah that Asus Router really has me worried..

Save it? It's still selling well. Not as well as PS4 but still selling well. run along little troll....run along.