the ps4 1080p streak is broken

#151 Posted by tormentos (19980 posts) -

@kingtito said:

Because you haven't actually experienced them for yourself. You're going by what other are saying. Perhaps the performance isn't great for them but just fine for someone else. You wouldn't know until you tried but you can't because you can't afford either console.

Does that matter you loser? I have BF4 on my PC and I play it at over 60fps on ultra settings.

Again does being slower than PS4 mean it's runs like crap? Are you trying to say the PS4 edition also runs like crap since 10fps is really nothing.

Why don't you back up your claim where I said Digital foundry is wrong loser? I said how would YOU know the games run like crap when you've neither played/owned or seen them in person. You've only seen videos of games which is the WORST way to judge them by.

You keep waiting moron because I never made any such claim.

That is totally irrelevant you asked me how do i know,and i answer you is time you do the same,does BF4 runs at the same speed and resolution on xbox one just because you own one.?

Does owning an xbox one and BF4 change the results does experiencing it for your self make the game gain parity.?

Nice spin,does the xbox one version just because you own it fix the limitations it has.?

Answer and stop spinning....

You are the one who claimed that was using other person opinion,so if you don't take that opinion as been right yeah your are doubting it or denying it,is not the first time i pasted Digital foundry all over your face and you just hold to the fact that i don't own a PS4 which you don't either from what i know.

So once again does owning any of the 2 consoles change the end results yes or no.?

No i go by DF which was the xbox one version is 720p with worse AA,and 10 FPS slower across the board,now prove them wrong or me for that matter since i am using their opinion..

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... Say so the one who say Infamous had playschool color from watching a video...hahaha

Hypocrite...

@StormyJoe said:

When you have to run the game through software to find the differences, then the differences are minor...

Dude many sites say the difference can been seen by just watching the games on normal screen,the xbox one version of 720p games look blur because of the blown pixels,games like BF4 have more jaggies on xbox one,and frame drop on xbox one are more abundant and that is something you notice just from looking the machines the use is to actually account to what the difference amount dude,but the difference is easy to see.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2013/06/17/rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one

Remember this which you people deny and tag as just a rumor,and then pulled Activision early claims of 1080p for the xbox one.?

hahaha....

I think that leak came from inside Activision...lol

@CrownKingArthur said:

blu ray are a static content. this is about a dynamic content - rendering of a 3d video game scene.

technically, they are limiting the size of the rendered scene from 1920x1080 (2073600 pixels) to 1920x800 (1536000 pixels).

on a 1080p television, the order 1886 will leave 537600 pixels unutilised, that's about 25.9%.

the game renders in 1920x800 - that's not enough to be considered 1080P.

if the game were in 1920x1 - "there's no upscaling", but the aspect ratio is different, and there would be unutilised pixels all the same. do you consider that 1080P? If not, why not, when you consider 1920x800 1080P?

No they are not rendering at a 2.40:1 ratio without freaking black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080p don't you get it,is the ratio of the game what make it have those black bars,just like Blu-ray movies which are 800p because they are presented in that ratio.

The game is rendering 1920x1080p just the black part are black pixels,but they are pixels never the less,is like using 1920x1080p pixels to draw a completely black screen,just because you can't see anything but black doesn't mean the PIXELS aren't been render..

Blu-ray movies are tag as 1080p period and many have that ratio and 800p,the fact is those pixels still are render.

@zeeshanhaider said:

My reading comprehension is fine. It causes pain in the ass of sony drones as soon as someone mentions how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. So, yes go and see a physician for your butthurt.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

butbutbut the 900p...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#152 Edited by MdBrOtha04 (1824 posts) -

@lglz1337 said:

@spitfire-six: bottlenecks, background programs slowing your system down, windows

I can do all of those things and still get over 100fps in BF4 multiplayer. I can get over 100 fps while doing all of that and video encode/decode at the same time.

Pic is from my desktop

#153 Edited by tormentos (19980 posts) -
@PraetorianMan said:

Okay, am I having a stroke or something?

Or is 1920x1280 BETTER than 1920x1080?

Isn't getting super-sampled down to 1080p technically an accomplishment on PS4, since the X1 version is not exceeding 1080p?

Yep...Basically the streak continues...

@santoron said:

So the XB1 brings a title out in 1080p, and the PS4 super samples Down to 1080p... and XBox fans call that a win?

Take what you can get, I suppose.

Yep look at stormyjoe reply to me on the first page..They really think is bad for the PS4..lol

@StormyJoe said:

So... it's the devs when it the news is negative for the PS4, but it's hardware when news is negative for the XB1?

Here.

Hahaha....Epic he didn't got that the game was actually higher 1080p,he really believe the game was higher res on xbox one..hahahahaaaaa

@Vecna said:

Fail. Enjoy paying for online. Being milked for money with last gen games, having sub HD resolutions, having your information stolen on PSN and Xbox Live, having a platform that stagnates the whole generation, having a subpar VR iteration. Need I go on?

That fee on PSN get you games each month..

That bold part is funny accounts in the internet have been stolen on PC before PSN even existed,in fact PC is the mean by what the hacks are done,so you are victim and attacker at the same time.

Funny enough we don't have to worry if my GPU or CPU is fast enough to run the game,or if i will have to run to my PC to order online a new GPU,the experience regardless of the graphics is basically the same,sure the extra frames and better visuals are great,but in the end the game is the same.

By the way when was the last time PC got something worth mentioning.?

Hell 2013 biggest games GTA5 and TLOU were console exclusives..lol

Suppar VR iteration...hahaha Get your ass ready for Candy Crush VR or Farmville VR Facebook rules now VR on PC..hahahaha

#154 Posted by StormyJoe (6466 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@kingtito said:

Because you haven't actually experienced them for yourself. You're going by what other are saying. Perhaps the performance isn't great for them but just fine for someone else. You wouldn't know until you tried but you can't because you can't afford either console.

Does that matter you loser? I have BF4 on my PC and I play it at over 60fps on ultra settings.

Again does being slower than PS4 mean it's runs like crap? Are you trying to say the PS4 edition also runs like crap since 10fps is really nothing.

Why don't you back up your claim where I said Digital foundry is wrong loser? I said how would YOU know the games run like crap when you've neither played/owned or seen them in person. You've only seen videos of games which is the WORST way to judge them by.

You keep waiting moron because I never made any such claim.

That is totally irrelevant you asked me how do i know,and i answer you is time you do the same,does BF4 runs at the same speed and resolution on xbox one just because you own one.?

Does owning an xbox one and BF4 change the results does experiencing it for your self make the game gain parity.?

Nice spin,does the xbox one version just because you own it fix the limitations it has.?

Answer and stop spinning....

You are the one who claimed that was using other person opinion,so if you don't take that opinion as been right yeah your are doubting it or denying it,is not the first time i pasted Digital foundry all over your face and you just hold to the fact that i don't own a PS4 which you don't either from what i know.

So once again does owning any of the 2 consoles change the end results yes or no.?

No i go by DF which was the xbox one version is 720p with worse AA,and 10 FPS slower across the board,now prove them wrong or me for that matter since i am using their opinion..

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... Say so the one who say Infamous had playschool color from watching a video...hahaha

Hypocrite...

@StormyJoe said:

When you have to run the game through software to find the differences, then the differences are minor...

Dude many sites say the difference can been seen by just watching the games on normal screen,the xbox one version of 720p games look blur because of the blown pixels,games like BF4 have more jaggies on xbox one,and frame drop on xbox one are more abundant and that is something you notice just from looking the machines the use is to actually account to what the difference amount dude,but the difference is easy to see.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2013/06/17/rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one

Remember this which you people deny and tag as just a rumor,and then pulled Activision early claims of 1080p for the xbox one.?

hahaha....

I think that leak came from inside Activision...lol

@CrownKingArthur said:

blu ray are a static content. this is about a dynamic content - rendering of a 3d video game scene.

technically, they are limiting the size of the rendered scene from 1920x1080 (2073600 pixels) to 1920x800 (1536000 pixels).

on a 1080p television, the order 1886 will leave 537600 pixels unutilised, that's about 25.9%.

the game renders in 1920x800 - that's not enough to be considered 1080P.

if the game were in 1920x1 - "there's no upscaling", but the aspect ratio is different, and there would be unutilised pixels all the same. do you consider that 1080P? If not, why not, when you consider 1920x800 1080P?

No they are not rendering at a 2.40:1 ratio without freaking black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080p don't you get it,is the ratio of the game what make it have those black bars,just like Blu-ray movies which are 800p because they are presented in that ratio.

The game is rendering 1920x1080p just the black part are black pixels,but they are pixels never the less,is like using 1920x1080p pixels to draw a completely black screen,just because you can't see anything but black doesn't mean the PIXELS aren't been render..

Blu-ray movies are tag as 1080p period and many have that ratio and 800p,the fact is those pixels still are render.

@zeeshanhaider said:

My reading comprehension is fine. It causes pain in the ass of sony drones as soon as someone mentions how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. So, yes go and see a physician for your butthurt.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

butbutbut the 900p...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Yeah, but you cows act as though the difference is generational, when it's minor. Does the PS4 version look better? Yes. Does it look so much better that it is a big PS4 advantage? No. It's a minor advantage. The games play the same, sound the same, but have different resolutions. That's it.

#155 Posted by tormentos (19980 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

Yeah, but you cows act as though the difference is generational, when it's minor. Does the PS4 version look better? Yes. Does it look so much better that it is a big PS4 advantage? No. It's a minor advantage. The games play the same, sound the same, but have different resolutions. That's it.

Isn't that the way lemming acted last gen when they got 100 more lines of resolution on Call of duty and 3 more frames.?

But now that is double the resolution or double the frames or 50% resolution and 20 % frames is not big..lol

We all know how on the spot are you whole "" minor"" arguments..

#156 Posted by StormyJoe (6466 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@StormyJoe said:

Yeah, but you cows act as though the difference is generational, when it's minor. Does the PS4 version look better? Yes. Does it look so much better that it is a big PS4 advantage? No. It's a minor advantage. The games play the same, sound the same, but have different resolutions. That's it.

Isn't that the way lemming acted last gen when they got 100 more lines of resolution on Call of duty and 3 more frames.?

But now that is double the resolution or double the frames or 50% resolution and 20 % frames is not big..lol

We all know how on the spot are you whole "" minor"" arguments..

Possibly. I really don't know. But, if that was the case, then you cows are being rather petty.

And yes, it is not that big of a difference. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's not. Most people would *maybe* be able to tell 720p vs 1080p if they were staring at a slow moving screen. But in the video game world, I highly doubt it. As for the FPS, unless you are in a real fast paced game like a racer or a FPS, you really aren't going to notice that, either. You could probably notice 720p/30FPS vs 1080/60FPS if you looked at them side by side for a while, but that isn't what we have seen so far.

#157 Posted by Heil68 (46738 posts) -

What the PS4 has accomplished this gen is nothing short of amazing. Best hard, coupled with SONY's award winning, world class pedigree games? Gaming bliss to all.

#158 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6250 posts) -

Goddamn, it's a lem slaughterhouse ITT.

I'd feel sorry for them, but you know what?

Nah.

#159 Posted by TheFadeForever (2188 posts) -
@tormentos said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

blu ray are a static content. this is about a dynamic content - rendering of a 3d video game scene.

technically, they are limiting the size of the rendered scene from 1920x1080 (2073600 pixels) to 1920x800 (1536000 pixels).

on a 1080p television, the order 1886 will leave 537600 pixels unutilised, that's about 25.9%.

the game renders in 1920x800 - that's not enough to be considered 1080P.

if the game were in 1920x1 - "there's no upscaling", but the aspect ratio is different, and there would be unutilised pixels all the same. do you consider that 1080P? If not, why not, when you consider 1920x800 1080P?

No they are not rendering at a 2.40:1 ratio without freaking black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080p don't you get it,is the ratio of the game what make it have those black bars,just like Blu-ray movies which are 800p because they are presented in that ratio.

The game is rendering 1920x1080p just the black part are black pixels,but they are pixels never the less,is like using 1920x1080p pixels to draw a completely black screen,just because you can't see anything but black doesn't mean the PIXELS aren't been render..

Blu-ray movies are tag as 1080p period and many have that ratio and 800p,the fact is those pixels still are render.

You sir are a moron

#160 Posted by Spitfire-Six (678 posts) -

@Vecna said:

@spitfire-six said:

@Vecna said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@zeeshanhaider:

-Calls PS4 900p station

-Every title since bf4 at launch runs at 1080p

-Dat making sense

Btw the order is 1080p.

The Order 1080p? LMAO. Stupid console lovers.

Enjoy your compromise fool. LMAO PS4. LMAO XBO.

800p FTW.

Enjoy modding, upgrading, fixing broken games when you mods break them, having to purchase servers for some multiplayer games only getting multi plats and steam.

Fail. Enjoy paying for online. Being milked for money with last gen games, having sub HD resolutions, having your information stolen on PSN and Xbox Live, having a platform that stagnates the whole generation, having a subpar VR iteration. Need I go on?

Fail. SO I didn't pay $120 a month for a dedicated server for my clan? Im on Xbox Live not PSN. Your more prone to identity theft with P2P connections. If stagnation means not spending 200+ on a video card, and additional 100+ on cooling etc. Again I have been a PC gamer for a while don't paint a picture that doesn't exist.

#161 Edited by lostrib (42005 posts) -

@spitfire-six said:

@Vecna said:

@spitfire-six said:

@Vecna said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@zeeshanhaider:

-Calls PS4 900p station

-Every title since bf4 at launch runs at 1080p

-Dat making sense

Btw the order is 1080p.

The Order 1080p? LMAO. Stupid console lovers.

Enjoy your compromise fool. LMAO PS4. LMAO XBO.

800p FTW.

Enjoy modding, upgrading, fixing broken games when you mods break them, having to purchase servers for some multiplayer games only getting multi plats and steam.

Fail. Enjoy paying for online. Being milked for money with last gen games, having sub HD resolutions, having your information stolen on PSN and Xbox Live, having a platform that stagnates the whole generation, having a subpar VR iteration. Need I go on?

Fail. SO I didn't pay $120 a month for a dedicated server for my clan? Im on Xbox Live not PSN. Your more prone to identity theft with P2P connections. If stagnation means not spending 200+ on a video card, and additional 100+ on cooling etc. Again I have been a PC gamer for a while don't paint a picture that doesn't exist.

Why are you bragging about overpaying for shit

#162 Posted by kingtito (5216 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@kingtito said:

Because you haven't actually experienced them for yourself. You're going by what other are saying. Perhaps the performance isn't great for them but just fine for someone else. You wouldn't know until you tried but you can't because you can't afford either console.

Does that matter you loser? I have BF4 on my PC and I play it at over 60fps on ultra settings.

Again does being slower than PS4 mean it's runs like crap? Are you trying to say the PS4 edition also runs like crap since 10fps is really nothing.

Why don't you back up your claim where I said Digital foundry is wrong loser? I said how would YOU know the games run like crap when you've neither played/owned or seen them in person. You've only seen videos of games which is the WORST way to judge them by.

You keep waiting moron because I never made any such claim.

That is totally irrelevant you asked me how do i know,and i answer you is time you do the same,does BF4 runs at the same speed and resolution on xbox one just because you own one.?

Does owning an xbox one and BF4 change the results does experiencing it for your self make the game gain parity.?

Nice spin,does the xbox one version just because you own it fix the limitations it has.?

Answer and stop spinning....

You are the one who claimed that was using other person opinion,so if you don't take that opinion as been right yeah your are doubting it or denying it,is not the first time i pasted Digital foundry all over your face and you just hold to the fact that i don't own a PS4 which you don't either from what i know.

So once again does owning any of the 2 consoles change the end results yes or no.?

No i go by DF which was the xbox one version is 720p with worse AA,and 10 FPS slower across the board,now prove them wrong or me for that matter since i am using their opinion..

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... Say so the one who say Infamous had playschool color from watching a video...hahaha

Hypocrite...

It's completely relevant. You can't possibly know for yourself unless you've actually played them.

Do I care what XOne BF4 runs at compared to the PS4? How does that have anything to do with it running well or not? So you're trying to say if it doesn't run as well as the PS4 version, then it runs like crap? You truly are a moron.

This is not a comparison to the PS4 version dumbass. YOU made the claim that all FPS games run like crap on the XOne, not the games run like crap compared to PS4 versions. Always trying to move those goal post El Tormented.

WTF did you just say? Seriously, have someone else type shit out for you.

Experiencing the 2 consoles gives your opinions validity. Since you own neither AND you haven't touched them, then YOUR opinions are nothing more than OTHERS opinions. YOU don't have your own and should stfu when it comes to talking about either of it's games.

So in other words, you can't form your own opinion so you have no choice but to go by what someone else says. Gotcha.....you have got to be the most pathetic poster here. Let's also add that the XOne version of BF4 looks just about identical to the PS4 version.

Care to find that quote where I said that loser? I said the game doesn't look interesting to me dumbass and I don't need to play the game to find no interest in it. You make comments about games you haven't played like "game sucks, it runs like crap ect...ect..." something you've have to experience before you could make judgments like those.

Keep fighting the good fight El Tormented. One day mommy will get you that PS4 you covet so bad

#163 Edited by tormentos (19980 posts) -

@kingtito said:

It's completely relevant. You can't possibly know for yourself unless you've actually played them.

Do I care what XOne BF4 runs at compared to the PS4? How does that have anything to do with it running well or not? So you're trying to say if it doesn't run as well as the PS4 version, then it runs like crap? You truly are a moron.

This is not a comparison to the PS4 version dumbass. YOU made the claim that all FPS games run like crap on the XOne, not the games run like crap compared to PS4 versions. Always trying to move those goal post El Tormented.

WTF did you just say? Seriously, have someone else type shit out for you.

Experiencing the 2 consoles gives your opinions validity. Since you own neither AND you haven't touched them, then YOUR opinions are nothing more than OTHERS opinions. YOU don't have your own and should stfu when it comes to talking about either of it's games.

So in other words, you can't form your own opinion so you have no choice but to go by what someone else says. Gotcha.....you have got to be the most pathetic poster here. Let's also add that the XOne version of BF4 looks just about identical to the PS4 version.

Care to find that quote where I said that loser? I said the game doesn't look interesting to me dumbass and I don't need to play the game to find no interest in it. You make comments about games you haven't played like "game sucks, it runs like crap ect...ect..." something you've have to experience before you could make judgments like those.

Keep fighting the good fight El Tormented. One day mommy will get you that PS4 you covet so bad

Once again prove me wrong how does you owning an xbox one change Digital Foundry test how.?

Now don't spin and just answer how you owning an xbox one make those FPS comparison invalid or not true..lol

Really so just by looking at video you find if a game is interesting or not.? but some how you can't do that with graphics.?

MmMMMM......

By the way do you own a PS4.? So your mom doesn't want to buy you one either..hahahaha

#164 Edited by kingtito (5216 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@kingtito said:

It's completely relevant. You can't possibly know for yourself unless you've actually played them.

Do I care what XOne BF4 runs at compared to the PS4? How does that have anything to do with it running well or not? So you're trying to say if it doesn't run as well as the PS4 version, then it runs like crap? You truly are a moron.

This is not a comparison to the PS4 version dumbass. YOU made the claim that all FPS games run like crap on the XOne, not the games run like crap compared to PS4 versions. Always trying to move those goal post El Tormented.

WTF did you just say? Seriously, have someone else type shit out for you.

Experiencing the 2 consoles gives your opinions validity. Since you own neither AND you haven't touched them, then YOUR opinions are nothing more than OTHERS opinions. YOU don't have your own and should stfu when it comes to talking about either of it's games.

So in other words, you can't form your own opinion so you have no choice but to go by what someone else says. Gotcha.....you have got to be the most pathetic poster here. Let's also add that the XOne version of BF4 looks just about identical to the PS4 version.

Care to find that quote where I said that loser? I said the game doesn't look interesting to me dumbass and I don't need to play the game to find no interest in it. You make comments about games you haven't played like "game sucks, it runs like crap ect...ect..." something you've have to experience before you could make judgments like those.

Keep fighting the good fight El Tormented. One day mommy will get you that PS4 you covet so bad

Once again prove me wrong how does you owning an xbox one change Digital Foundry test how.?

Now don't spin and just answer how you owning an xbox one make those FPS comparison invalid or not true..lol

Really so just by looking at video you find if a game is interesting or not.? but some how you can't do that with graphics.?

MmMMMM......

By the way do you own a PS4.? So your mom doesn't want to buy you one either..hahahaha

Why do I need to prove you wrong when I asked how YOU would know anything ran like crap when YOU haven't experienced it for yourself? I made no claims about DF, I talked about YOU and YOUR claims without 1st hand knowledge.

You have selective reading problem or something? I think you do because you just seem to choose the most random shit to talk about. How is what I said have ANYTHING to do with YOU having 1st hand knowledge of a game running like crap when YOU haven't played it at all? Where did I make ANY comparisons to the PS4 version?

Yes, by looking at a video I can make a judgment on the game looking interesting to me or not. I don't have to play the game to say it doesn't LOOK interesting. Did I say the game sucked? Did I say the game ran like shit? NO, I said it doesn't LOOK interesting just like if I saw a movie preview I could make the same claim. Do I have to SEE the movie to say it doesn't interest me? Seriously El Tormented, you have mental issues. Please go seek help

No I don't but then again I'm not running around praising it AND it's games to no end, unlike you El Tormented. I can at least say I do own ONE of the 8th gen systems, can you?

I'm still waiting for all that evidence you claim you had of me being a hypocrite. Should I continue holding my breath El Tormented or are you just going to admit that you're wrong.......again

#165 Posted by tormentos (19980 posts) -

@kingtito said:

Why do I need to prove you wrong when I asked how YOU would know anything ran like crap when YOU haven't experienced it for yourself? I made no claims about DF, I talked about YOU and YOUR claims without 1st hand knowledge.

You have selective reading problem or something? I think you do because you just seem to choose the most random shit to talk about. How is what I said have ANYTHING to do with YOU having 1st hand knowledge of a game running like crap when YOU haven't played it at all? Where did I make ANY comparisons to the PS4 version?

Yes, by looking at a video I can make a judgment on the game looking interesting to me or not. I don't have to play the game to say it doesn't LOOK interesting. Did I say the game sucked? Did I say the game ran like shit? NO, I said it doesn't LOOK interesting just like if I saw a movie preview I could make the same claim. Do I have to SEE the movie to say it doesn't interest me? Seriously El Tormented, you have mental issues. Please go seek help

No I don't but then again I'm not running around praising it AND it's games to no end, unlike you El Tormented. I can at least say I do own ONE of the 8th gen systems, can you?

I'm still waiting for all that evidence you claim you had of me being a hypocrite. Should I continue holding my breath El Tormented or are you just going to admit that you're wrong.......again

Another meltdown spin...lol

No you are doubting my opinion which is based on DF findings..lol

And you whole argument is base around the fact that i don't the consoles,it doesn't change anything me owning the consoles or not is irrelevant as it would not change DF statements in anything,just like you owning both would not either you can claim it runs flawlessly without a drop in frames while DF evidence still there and would prove you wrong..

Is my opinion vs yours, i use DF as base and they talk about the difference in both versions,regardless of what you think hell regardless of you thinking that the difference is minor the difference is what it is,you owning and xbox one change nothing is a stupid excuse you bring to try to counter my argument about the PS4 having more and higher rated games,which by the way is based on Meta.

So regardless again of me owning it doesn't change Meta scores or the quantity of games release period.

But i can judge graphics from videos because some how i am blind right.?

Funny enough When i first saw Bioshock i wasn't interested,but when i friend of mine told me to give it a try i was in shock to how great the game was..

Judging games for look isn't different from what you admit to do just now.

Did you play the game for 1 hour to see how interesting it was or not.? No...

Ok themm....

By the way swing by the NPD thread where you are quoted making a prediction of Titanfall moving consoles,thing you say you never did...

hahaha Hypocrite...

#166 Posted by Spitfire-Six (678 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@spitfire-six said:

@Vecna said:

@spitfire-six said:

@Vecna said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@zeeshanhaider:

-Calls PS4 900p station

-Every title since bf4 at launch runs at 1080p

-Dat making sense

Btw the order is 1080p.

The Order 1080p? LMAO. Stupid console lovers.

Enjoy your compromise fool. LMAO PS4. LMAO XBO.

800p FTW.

Enjoy modding, upgrading, fixing broken games when you mods break them, having to purchase servers for some multiplayer games only getting multi plats and steam.

Fail. Enjoy paying for online. Being milked for money with last gen games, having sub HD resolutions, having your information stolen on PSN and Xbox Live, having a platform that stagnates the whole generation, having a subpar VR iteration. Need I go on?

Fail. SO I didn't pay $120 a month for a dedicated server for my clan? Im on Xbox Live not PSN. Your more prone to identity theft with P2P connections. If stagnation means not spending 200+ on a video card, and additional 100+ on cooling etc. Again I have been a PC gamer for a while don't paint a picture that doesn't exist.

Why are you bragging about overpaying for shit

Did you not read the argument? There is no indication of bragging. My point I was getting across was that if you are claiming console gamers are being milked for money lets look into the cost of PC gaming. I stated my values based on experience. And what part of any of that is over paying?

#167 Posted by kingtito (5216 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@kingtito said:

Why do I need to prove you wrong when I asked how YOU would know anything ran like crap when YOU haven't experienced it for yourself? I made no claims about DF, I talked about YOU and YOUR claims without 1st hand knowledge.

You have selective reading problem or something? I think you do because you just seem to choose the most random shit to talk about. How is what I said have ANYTHING to do with YOU having 1st hand knowledge of a game running like crap when YOU haven't played it at all? Where did I make ANY comparisons to the PS4 version?

Yes, by looking at a video I can make a judgment on the game looking interesting to me or not. I don't have to play the game to say it doesn't LOOK interesting. Did I say the game sucked? Did I say the game ran like shit? NO, I said it doesn't LOOK interesting just like if I saw a movie preview I could make the same claim. Do I have to SEE the movie to say it doesn't interest me? Seriously El Tormented, you have mental issues. Please go seek help

No I don't but then again I'm not running around praising it AND it's games to no end, unlike you El Tormented. I can at least say I do own ONE of the 8th gen systems, can you?

I'm still waiting for all that evidence you claim you had of me being a hypocrite. Should I continue holding my breath El Tormented or are you just going to admit that you're wrong.......again

Another meltdown spin...lol

No you are doubting my opinion which is based on DF findings..lol

And you whole argument is base around the fact that i don't the consoles,it doesn't change anything me owning the consoles or not is irrelevant as it would not change DF statements in anything,just like you owning both would not either you can claim it runs flawlessly without a drop in frames while DF evidence still there and would prove you wrong..

Is my opinion vs yours, i use DF as base and they talk about the difference in both versions,regardless of what you think hell regardless of you thinking that the difference is minor the difference is what it is,you owning and xbox one change nothing is a stupid excuse you bring to try to counter my argument about the PS4 having more and higher rated games,which by the way is based on Meta.

So regardless again of me owning it doesn't change Meta scores or the quantity of games release period.

But i can judge graphics from videos because some how i am blind right.?

Funny enough When i first saw Bioshock i wasn't interested,but when i friend of mine told me to give it a try i was in shock to how great the game was..

Judging games for look isn't different from what you admit to do just now.

Did you play the game for 1 hour to see how interesting it was or not.? No...

Ok themm....

By the way swing by the NPD thread where you are quoted making a prediction of Titanfall moving consoles,thing you say you never did...

hahaha Hypocrite...

YOU don't have an opinion. YOUR opinion is actually someone else's opinion. YOU can't form your own opinion IF you haven't actually experienced it dude. I don't know why you can't understand that.

You don't use consoles? Then why do you praise Sony as the 2nd coming? This entire argument is based on YOUR opinions when you actually don't have one. That was my entire point El Tormented. You don't have an opinion on the matter so you really should sftu about it. You can't base opinions on what others say El Tormented.

Why do you keep comparing XOne and PS4 versions? That's not even what this is about. You made the claim the XOne FPS versions run like crap. That has NOTHING to do with the PS4 versions. You go on to back up your claims by linking DF articles. Those articles don't say the XOne versions run like crap because occasional slowdown =/= running like crap. If YOU had actually played any of the XOne or PS4 games then your opinion might carry more weight but you haven't so your opinion is == crap.

You sure you talking to me El Tormented? I don't recall bringing up MC, any score or the amount of games available on either console. You trying to change up the argument to suite your needs kid?

No, not to the point that you're talking about graphics and not from youtube videos El Tormented. Just go out and beg your mommy to buy you something, anything just so you can have 1st hand knowledge of the systems. Is it really THAT hard for you to do? You claim the PS4 doesn't have the games you want to play yet and that's why you haven't purchased one but that hasn't stopped you from praising these games to no end. Seems a bit contradictory to me El Tormented.

That's nice dude but I don't care what games you like, didn't like or did/didn't find interesting. All I'm saying is I don't see any games that interest me on the PS4. It doesn't mean I won't eventually get the PS4 and whatever games. It only means I don't find them interesting. It's called an opinion El Tormented and one that I DON'T need to experience to form that opinion on.

Seriously, you really do have mental issues. Who's judging a game? Saying something isn't interesting to me isn't judging the game. I didn't give it a score. I didn't say the game sucks. Seek help kid don't know how many times anyone has to say that.

TF did move consoles El Tormented. Did I say it would push the XOne passed the PS4? Moving consoles and saying it'll move enough to take the lead are 2 different things El Tormented. Learn the difference. I'll continue to wait for that proof of yours kid.

#168 Posted by lostrib (42005 posts) -

@spitfire-six said:

@lostrib said:

@spitfire-six said:

Fail. SO I didn't pay $120 a month for a dedicated server for my clan? Im on Xbox Live not PSN. Your more prone to identity theft with P2P connections. If stagnation means not spending 200+ on a video card, and additional 100+ on cooling etc. Again I have been a PC gamer for a while don't paint a picture that doesn't exist.

Why are you bragging about overpaying for shit

Did you not read the argument? There is no indication of bragging. My point I was getting across was that if you are claiming console gamers are being milked for money lets look into the cost of PC gaming. I stated my values based on experience. And what part of any of that is over paying?

The part about $100+ on cooling for starters

#169 Posted by Spitfire-Six (678 posts) -

@lostrib: That is more so if you go with liquid cooling. Im sorry ill be more specific $45-95 for heat sink and cpu fan. That better?

#170 Posted by lostrib (42005 posts) -

@spitfire-six said:

@lostrib: That is more so if you go with liquid cooling. Im sorry ill be more specific $45-95 for heat sink and cpu fan. That better?

You don't need that unless you're overclocking. Even then, many will be fine with something like a CM 212

#171 Posted by Spitfire-Six (678 posts) -

@lostrib: You would use that on a high end gaming rig built to run the highest resolution possible?

#172 Posted by lostrib (42005 posts) -

@spitfire-six said:

@lostrib: You would use that on a high end gaming rig built to run the highest resolution possible?

Well that's a whole different beast.

#173 Posted by Spitfire-Six (678 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@spitfire-six said:

@lostrib: You would use that on a high end gaming rig built to run the highest resolution possible?

Well that's a whole different beast.

No doubt, I am not knocking PC gaming btw. Like I said I have done it a while but its not perfect and its an expensive hobby. Just don't like seeing these PC guys pretended that there is no downside to PC gaming.

#175 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2859 posts) -

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

It's broken since the arrival of 900pStation. The subHD MP of Crapzone, BF4, The Order 800p and looks like the Witcher 3 will also be 900p.

And LOL @ achieving supersampling from 1280 to 1080 on Lego the Hobbit. Might as well add Pong to the list.

Dat butthurt...

Then go see a physician. Why the fuck are you telling me if you are having a pain in you ass?

LOL...I think it's your reading comprehension that needs the check-up.

My reading comprehension is fine. It causes pain in the ass of sony drones as soon as someone mentions how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. So, yes go and see a physician for your butthurt.

It's nice to have a new clown around to laugh at. Thank you for filling that void.

Another sony drone who can't handle the truth. Your choice, if you want to live with your pain in the ass. I guess, too much dick riding sony can do that.

#176 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@tormentos said:

@kingtito said:

Because you haven't actually experienced them for yourself. You're going by what other are saying. Perhaps the performance isn't great for them but just fine for someone else. You wouldn't know until you tried but you can't because you can't afford either console.

Does that matter you loser? I have BF4 on my PC and I play it at over 60fps on ultra settings.

Again does being slower than PS4 mean it's runs like crap? Are you trying to say the PS4 edition also runs like crap since 10fps is really nothing.

Why don't you back up your claim where I said Digital foundry is wrong loser? I said how would YOU know the games run like crap when you've neither played/owned or seen them in person. You've only seen videos of games which is the WORST way to judge them by.

You keep waiting moron because I never made any such claim.

That is totally irrelevant you asked me how do i know,and i answer you is time you do the same,does BF4 runs at the same speed and resolution on xbox one just because you own one.?

Does owning an xbox one and BF4 change the results does experiencing it for your self make the game gain parity.?

Nice spin,does the xbox one version just because you own it fix the limitations it has.?

Answer and stop spinning....

You are the one who claimed that was using other person opinion,so if you don't take that opinion as been right yeah your are doubting it or denying it,is not the first time i pasted Digital foundry all over your face and you just hold to the fact that i don't own a PS4 which you don't either from what i know.

So once again does owning any of the 2 consoles change the end results yes or no.?

No i go by DF which was the xbox one version is 720p with worse AA,and 10 FPS slower across the board,now prove them wrong or me for that matter since i am using their opinion..

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... Say so the one who say Infamous had playschool color from watching a video...hahaha

Hypocrite...

@StormyJoe said:

When you have to run the game through software to find the differences, then the differences are minor...

Dude many sites say the difference can been seen by just watching the games on normal screen,the xbox one version of 720p games look blur because of the blown pixels,games like BF4 have more jaggies on xbox one,and frame drop on xbox one are more abundant and that is something you notice just from looking the machines the use is to actually account to what the difference amount dude,but the difference is easy to see.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2013/06/17/rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one

Remember this which you people deny and tag as just a rumor,and then pulled Activision early claims of 1080p for the xbox one.?

hahaha....

I think that leak came from inside Activision...lol

@CrownKingArthur said:

blu ray are a static content. this is about a dynamic content - rendering of a 3d video game scene.

technically, they are limiting the size of the rendered scene from 1920x1080 (2073600 pixels) to 1920x800 (1536000 pixels).

on a 1080p television, the order 1886 will leave 537600 pixels unutilised, that's about 25.9%.

the game renders in 1920x800 - that's not enough to be considered 1080P.

if the game were in 1920x1 - "there's no upscaling", but the aspect ratio is different, and there would be unutilised pixels all the same. do you consider that 1080P? If not, why not, when you consider 1920x800 1080P?

No they are not rendering at a 2.40:1 ratio without freaking black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080p don't you get it,is the ratio of the game what make it have those black bars,just like Blu-ray movies which are 800p because they are presented in that ratio.

The game is rendering 1920x1080p just the black part are black pixels,but they are pixels never the less,is like using 1920x1080p pixels to draw a completely black screen,just because you can't see anything but black doesn't mean the PIXELS aren't been render..

Blu-ray movies are tag as 1080p period and many have that ratio and 800p,the fact is those pixels still are render.

@zeeshanhaider said:

My reading comprehension is fine. It causes pain in the ass of sony drones as soon as someone mentions how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. So, yes go and see a physician for your butthurt.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

butbutbut the 900p...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ridiculous.

i'm not accepting black black black black black black black over and over again for:

area A 1920x140 at the top of the screen

area B 1920x140 at the bottom of the screen

as part of the rendered game scene.

but hey just to be clear. the order 1886 is a 1920x800 game. that's the window into the game world they'll render for us to watch. that black bit at the bottom - nothing's ever going to happen there, nor at the top. i don't know why you guys include it. i'm telling the truth, it's the 800p and 1080p proponents who are wrong.

i don't know why people mention blu ray when that's a static content viewed from the disc. this is a dynamic content rendered frame by frame in real time. the resolution matters. their aspect ratio choice affects the resolution, and this resolution will be less taxing to render than full 1920x1080 (1080P).

i don't know why you guys keep pushing the issue on this. if infamous second son is 1080p without black bars, how is this 1080P with black bars?

why do you want black on the screen to count as rendered game scene? why? is it impressive to you or something?

i just don't understand you playstation guys, man. you know its 1920x800. you know 1080P is 1920x1080. You know 800P would be below 1920x800. why don't you fight those guys? you know, the actual misinformed people? the guys who say its 800p.

The order 1886 is not 1080P tormentos, and i refuse to accept black black black black black as a part of a 1080P rendered game scene.

god @MK-Professor, myself, and others are utterly, utterly bored of this, unnecessary, and thoroughly eviscerated "argument" from playstationers.

the order 1886 is probably going to be the best looking console game ever once it releases - at 1920x800.

#177 Edited by sts106mat (20399 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

i just don't understand you playstation guys, man. you know its 1920x800. you know 1080P is 1920x1080. You know 800P would be below 1920x800. why don't you fight those guys? you know, the actual misinformed people? the guys who say its 800p.

The order 1886 is not 1080P tormentos, and i refuse to accept black black black black black as a part of a 1080P rendered game scene.

the answer to your question is simple.......

because their argument has been that "anything sub 1080p cannot be considered graphics king".....so this game (which looks nice and is being hyped as a graphics king) one way or the other has to be full 1080p.

otherwise they have already disqualified it themselves.

Cows lol

#178 Posted by bforrester420 (1984 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

It's broken since the arrival of 900pStation. The subHD MP of Crapzone, BF4, The Order 800p and looks like the Witcher 3 will also be 900p.

And LOL @ achieving supersampling from 1280 to 1080 on Lego the Hobbit. Might as well add Pong to the list.

Dat butthurt...

Then go see a physician. Why the fuck are you telling me if you are having a pain in you ass?

LOL...I think it's your reading comprehension that needs the check-up.

My reading comprehension is fine. It causes pain in the ass of sony drones as soon as someone mentions how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. So, yes go and see a physician for your butthurt.

It's nice to have a new clown around to laugh at. Thank you for filling that void.

Another sony drone who can't handle the truth. Your choice, if you want to live with your pain in the ass. I guess, too much dick riding sony can do that.

LOL, I invite you to drag up one post where I've heaped undeserved praise on Sony.

#179 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@sts106mat said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

i just don't understand you playstation guys, man. you know its 1920x800. you know 1080P is 1920x1080. You know 800P would be below 1920x800. why don't you fight those guys? you know, the actual misinformed people? the guys who say its 800p.

The order 1886 is not 1080P tormentos, and i refuse to accept black black black black black as a part of a 1080P rendered game scene.

the answer to your question is simple.......

because their argument has been that "anything sub 1080p cannot be considered graphics king".....so this game (which looks nice and is being hyped as a graphics king) one way or the other has to be full 1080p.

otherwise they have already disqualified it themselves.

Cows lol

hmm, that's a shame.

i could consider a 1920x800 game graphics king, but i would take into consideration the advantage of the unrendered black bars. i still think the order will end up looking fantastic, potentially the best looking console game ever, but we'll see.

Rotorua wedding eh? that sounds like a great place to get married tbh. i'm engaged so i need to think about that sort of 'shizzle'.

#180 Edited by tormentos (19980 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

ridiculous.

i'm not accepting black black black black black black black over and over again for:

area A 1920x140 at the top of the screen

area B 1920x140 at the bottom of the screen

as part of the rendered game scene.

but hey just to be clear. the order 1886 is a 1920x800 game. that's the window into the game world they'll render for us to watch. that black bit at the bottom - nothing's ever going to happen there, nor at the top. i don't know why you guys include it. i'm telling the truth, it's the 800p and 1080p proponents who are wrong.

i don't know why people mention blu ray when that's a static content viewed from the disc. this is a dynamic content rendered frame by frame in real time. the resolution matters. their aspect ratio choice affects the resolution, and this resolution will be less taxing to render than full 1920x1080 (1080P).

i don't know why you guys keep pushing the issue on this. if infamous second son is 1080p without black bars, how is this 1080P with black bars?

why do you want black on the screen to count as rendered game scene? why? is it impressive to you or something?

i just don't understand you playstation guys, man. you know its 1920x800. you know 1080P is 1920x1080. You know 800P would be below 1920x800. why don't you fight those guys? you know, the actual misinformed people? the guys who say its 800p.

The order 1886 is not 1080P tormentos, and i refuse to accept black black black black black as a part of a 1080P rendered game scene.

god @MK-Professor, myself, and others are utterly, utterly bored of this, unnecessary, and thoroughly eviscerated "argument" from playstationers.

the order 1886 is probably going to be the best looking console game ever once it releases - at 1920x800.

Your not accepting it that is your problem,never the less the game is rending 1920x1080p the black bars are black pixels period,or what black pixels don't count is that it.? So when you render a black car on a game or a black horse those aren't pixels right..?

I don't care what you refuse to admit prove to me that 2.40:1 requires 1920x1080p pixels and you have your self a damn point,other wise stop your DC 2.40:1 ratio requires way more pixels than 1920x1080p without black bars is a FACT not my opinion.

The game isn't upscale is presented to you like a movie period,go fight the developers about their choice which was cinematic,unlike Ryse and Call of Duty Ghost which on xbox one were claim to be 1080p and ended 900p and 720p because the xbox one hardware couldn't handle them..

@sts106mat said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

i just don't understand you playstation guys, man. you know its 1920x800. you know 1080P is 1920x1080. You know 800P would be below 1920x800. why don't you fight those guys? you know, the actual misinformed people? the guys who say its 800p.

The order 1886 is not 1080P tormentos, and i refuse to accept black black black black black as a part of a 1080P rendered game scene.

the answer to your question is simple.......

because their argument has been that "anything sub 1080p cannot be considered graphics king".....so this game (which looks nice and is being hyped as a graphics king) one way or the other has to be full 1080p.

otherwise they have already disqualified it themselves.

Cows lol

The order is 1080p with a 1920x800p visible area,presented in a cinematic 2.40:1 ratio that without black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080 pixels.

And unlike Ryse which was say by E3 that would be 1080p with 150k polygon characters,The orders wasn't downgrade,Ryse was downgrade to 900p with 85K polygons oh and isn't upscale either like Ryse.

#181 Posted by GoldenElementXL (3777 posts) -

@tormentos: The devs say The Order is running at 800p. I proved it with the founders twitter posts. I don't know why you can't. Did you try to explain to the devs why you think their game should be labeled as 1080p?

#182 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@tormentos said:

Your not accepting it that is your problem (1),never the less the game is rending 1920x1080p (2) the black bars are black pixels period,or what black pixels don't count is that it.? So when you render a black car on a game or a black horse those aren't pixels right..? (3)

I don't care what you refuse to admit prove to me that 2.40:1 requires 1920x1080p pixels and you have your self a damn point, (4) other wise stop your DC 2.40:1 ratio requires way more pixels than 1920x1080p without black bars is a FACT not my opinion.(5)

The game isn't upscale (6) is presented to you like a movie period,go fight the developers about their choice (7) which was cinematic,unlike Ryse and Call of Duty Ghost which on xbox one were claim to be 1080p and ended 900p and 720p because the xbox one hardware couldn't handle them.. (8)

The order is 1080p with a 1920x800p visible area (9),presented in a cinematic 2.40:1 ratio that without black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080 pixels. (10)

And unlike Ryse which was say by E3 that would be 1080p with 150k polygon characters,The orders wasn't downgrade,Ryse was downgrade to 900p with 85K polygons oh and isn't upscale either like Ryse. (11)

1. There is no problem. The order 1886 is 1920x800.

2. 1920x800

3. Once that black car goes past, could the pixels turn to another colour? such as that of the grass? yes. What will happen to the black pixels in the order 1886, the top and bottom 140 lines. they will be black forever as they're essentially ignored when rendering the game scene.

4. Actually that's got nothing to do with my point. My point is that a 1920x800 render is not 1080P, 1080P is always a 1920x1080 render - it must be, because 99% of PS4 games are 1080P (and i include the beyond 1080P render of the lego game in that), right?

5. "2.40:1 ratio requires way more pixels than 1920x1080p without black bars is a FACT not my opinion."

So? That's irrelevant. And see Q10.

6. Yes I know. So?

7. I've got no problem with the developer's resolution choice of 1920x800 - I think for a few reasons its very smart. Only playstation fanboys have a problem with the game being described as below 1080P - I don't know why they have this problem.

8. Wouldn't surprise me. PS4 has clearly demonstrated itself to be more powerful than Xbox One.

9. That's correct! The visible area of game scene, the part the GPU has to work hard to render, it's 1920x800. Thank you.

10. What if you played it on a hypothetical monitor of resolution 1920x800? Then it wouldn't have black bars, and wouldn't require more pixels? your phrase only holds true if you mean a cinematic aspect ratio, with a (greater than or equal to)1080 pixel width.

Because maths is fun, I can tell you now that the required width of a 21:9 render in order to exceed a 16:9 1080P render (2073600 px) would be the resolution 943 px (assume 21:9 aspect ratio, 2200x943 (2047600 px)).

11. I have no opinion on such matters.

one last thing.

If they rendered TO1886 at 2200x943 for supersampling down to 1920x800 - similar to the aforementioned lego game, then despite the game having black bars on the screen - I'd consider it a 1080P game.

Weird eh? well, i guess not since the lego game is 1080P plus.

#183 Edited by zeeshanhaider (2859 posts) -

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

@bforrester420 said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

It's broken since the arrival of 900pStation. The subHD MP of Crapzone, BF4, The Order 800p and looks like the Witcher 3 will also be 900p.

And LOL @ achieving supersampling from 1280 to 1080 on Lego the Hobbit. Might as well add Pong to the list.

Dat butthurt...

Then go see a physician. Why the fuck are you telling me if you are having a pain in you ass?

LOL...I think it's your reading comprehension that needs the check-up.

My reading comprehension is fine. It causes pain in the ass of sony drones as soon as someone mentions how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. So, yes go and see a physician for your butthurt.

It's nice to have a new clown around to laugh at. Thank you for filling that void.

Another sony drone who can't handle the truth. Your choice, if you want to live with your pain in the ass. I guess, too much dick riding sony can do that.

LOL, I invite you to drag up one post where I've heaped undeserved praise on Sony.

The very first post where you quote me. You're definitely having a pain in the ass because of how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. Definitely dick riding sony.