Online multiplayer on PC is always free and not locked behind a paywall like it is with PSN and Xbox Live.
This is not the case when it comes to MMO's such as WoW and ESO and their ilk with their subscriptions. I agree with all your other points though I built my first gaming PC in April and couldn't be happier. Haven't touched my PS3 since building it and with my first steam sale under my belt I have plenty of games to play for the time being.
@RoboCopISJesus: Ever notice how when it's PS4 vs Xbox One, the argument is typically about the graphics...900p vs 1080p, 30fps vs 60fps, etc - when PC steps into the ring, all of a sudden the argument changes to "Graphics and frame rate don't matter, it's all about the gameplay!"
And when you do bring up gameplay, then RTS, Sim, Moba, MMO, TBS, anything isometric, puzzle games, and INDY do not count.
Oh and they have to be big budget and have commercials on ESPN. And be Exclusive.
Theres a logical reason for that.
I'm not going to explain it to you....I'm just going to let you continue to look dumb in front of all the ppl that understand it already.
That way...they can go out and feed more ppl better arguments knowing you're trying a little to hard to make PC look perfect.
@RoboCopISJesus: Ever notice how when it's PS4 vs Xbox One, the argument is typically about the graphics...900p vs 1080p, 30fps vs 60fps, etc - when PC steps into the ring, all of a sudden the argument changes to "Graphics and frame rate don't matter, it's all about the gameplay!"
And when you do bring up gameplay, then RTS, Sim, Moba, MMO, TBS, anything isometric, puzzle games, and INDY do not count.
Oh and they have to be big budget and have commercials on ESPN. And be Exclusive.
Theres a logical reason for that.
I'm not going to explain it to you....I'm just going to let you continue to look dumb in front of all the ppl that understand it already.
That way...they can go out and feed more ppl better arguments knowing you're trying a little to hard to make PC look perfect.
then why even post, if no one is going to have any idea what you are talking about?
I have "2.8 hrs" on Dragon Commander - which is quite impressive considering I've beaten the long campaign 3 or 4 times.
And don't argue game quality while you're displaying a "Dragon's Crown" avatar, you look like an idiot.
Every game past I believe 2009 should show the correct amount of game time. Ubisoft gameplay times can actually be hugely inflated by simply leaving uplay running after exiting the game.
If you play a game in offline mode or without an internet connection then your game time isn't recorded.
For what reason would people play in offline mode on their desktop other than internet going down? Laptop users I could understand playing more in offline mode but then laptop users who play modern games are without a doubt spending more than most consolites.
I suppose its the same reason that f2p, rts, mmo, and moba don't count.
They count, they just suck.
Metacritic and GS disagree. Therefore, you suck.
Warframe is one of the most popular f2p games on steam and it's got a 66 meta. I can't recall a game ever being so popular with such a bad score.
Also many reviewers take into account that it's a free game. Reviews are all about how a game compares to others in it's class. Would it be fair to knock a low budget game or a f2p game for not measuring up to to a full priced title?
Looks like Gamespot factors price into their reviews.
GameSpotNov 8, 2013 90 Considering that Path of Exile costs you nothing beyond some Internet bandwidth, it provides an embarrassment of pleasures.
AAA (Price) doesn't make a definitive gaming device. As AAA (price) games can score like shit and be crap. See Ryse, Knack, Killzone.
Also, here at SW, AAA = 9.0+ scoring. AA = 8.0+ scoring.
You're reaching.
I never said price made a AAA game. I don't care how SW does it....Amnesia is an indy game...not a AAA game. It always has been and always will be.
I've never heard of AAA games being the games that score high in ratings.....b/c in the end....thats still just someone's opinion....not a fact.
FACT: Amnesia is an indy game.
FACT: Threre are like 1,000,001 indy games on PC....so yeah....theres bound to be qutie a few that score really high.
Those are also niche games. AAA games are games with a big budget, some advertising, ususally high quality.....Watchdogs, Farcry 3/4, TLoU, stuff like that.
Now....high quality might be something missing on PC b/c many ports aren't up to par on PC, but thats just on PC.
1. Most of those AAA games come to pc...and According to digital foundry, most multiplats and ports are better on PC.
2. SW has always used the term AAA for 9.0+ scoring games. For the last 10+ years. "Reaching".
3. PC still has plenty big-budget games as well as indys.
Then why do I hear constant bitching from PC gamers about ports.
Then SW is different than everyone else....and I'll go with the rest of the world.
Those big budget games are mostly niche games.
Bad ports on PC still give you better experience than consoles . They are just not good enough by PC standards because so much more can be achieved with its hardware .
There are plenty of AAA games on PC . Some are niche , others aren't . Being niche is sometimes a good thing , a game targeted for core audience instead of COD audience .
Take Starcraft 2 : Wings of Liberty for example , the game cost 100 million dollars to develop and market (more expensive than any Sony exclusive) . So far it has sold over 8 million copies . Contains stunning campaign along with its multiplayer , famous for E-sports around the world .
Bigger budget doesn't mean better game though because SWTOR cost 200 million dollars (PC exclusive) and it sucked . Witcher 2 on other hand cost 8 million dollars and it looks like a 70-80 million dollar game .
At the end of the day , it is all about marketing . If Titanfall was PC exclusive , people would've called it indie game but since it was on Xbox One as well and M$ was paying alot for its marketing , and bundled Xbox One with it , people called it "System Seller" and "AAA" game .
Then there are games like Company of Heroes , Crysis/Warhead , FEAR , Witcher 1/2 , etc etc etc , these games were released as PC exclusive and all of them were benchmark games back then . Not to mention upcoming games like Unreal Tournament , Star Citizen , Elite Dangerous , Serious Sam 4 , The Book of Unwritten Tales 2 etc etc etc , all AAA stuff .
I think gameplay is what matters and I consider games like Divinity OS as AAA . Since the very first moment , the game blew my mind with amount of content and graphics are also pretty good . Of course it didn't have TV ads and stuff but the game offers more than your average AAA game . BTW here on gamespot "AAA" means 9.0+ score .
This thread is about games not movies. Please delete this post.
Can't play Super Mario Galaxy, Infamous SS, Forza 5, Halo 5, Fable Legends, Zelda, Splatoon, Super Mario Kart 8, Drive Club, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Killer Instinct, etc, etc...etc... Please stop being delusion and think before you post.
You'll need to spend like over 1000$ to play those games , since you just named games from 3 platforms , and even you may not be able to play some of them . Still those games aren't enough compared to PC library but I respect your opinion .
@mr_huggles_dog: you're upset that I'm butting into conversations on a public forum?
Ok....it didn't take long for me to figure out you're the forum attention seeker. Go start drama at a high school. BE GONE LITTLE WING!!!
Cloud...I'll read your reply later...I'm in the middle of something.
Edit: I just want to add, that I fine it funny that PC gamers are always like "PC gaming is better than ANY console... It's better than PS4 X1 and WiiU....better GFX than any.....better controls than any...PC gaming rulez!!!"
Then you list off different exclusives on different consoles and it's no longer PC vs consoleS.....it's "NO NO NO...THATS NOT FAIR....YOU CAN ONLY PICK ONE CONSOLE1!!!!111!!"
This thread is about games not movies. Please delete this post.
Can't play Super Mario Galaxy, Infamous SS, Forza 5, Halo 5, Fable Legends, Zelda, Splatoon, Super Mario Kart 8, Drive Club, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Killer Instinct, etc, etc...etc... Please stop being delusion and think before you post.
You'll need to spend like over 1000$ to play those games , since you just named games from 3 platforms , and even you may not be able to play some of them . Still those games aren't enough compared to PC library but I respect your opinion .
i've already shown my library numerous times, but for your viewing pleasure, again.
I said PSN ID, not library for you. I'm trying to figure out if you're Sweenix or Finalstar.
He is xboxdone74 or something.
You guys are so paranoid everyone is an alt. Look up xboxdone74. I did. no psnid.
And sorry, i have no intention of dropping my psn and being flooded with raging herm mail there..also across the numerous forums I belong to. I've shown my library.
I have "2.8 hrs" on Dragon Commander - which is quite impressive considering I've beaten the long campaign 3 or 4 times.
And don't argue game quality while you're displaying a "Dragon's Crown" avatar, you look like an idiot.
Every game past I believe 2009 should show the correct amount of game time. Ubisoft gameplay times can actually be hugely inflated by simply leaving uplay running after exiting the game.
Or the opposite, steam says I've only played 96 minutes of FC3 Blood Dragon, but I've definitely beat the game.
Pics or it didn't happen. All my games are right on or over what I played. Far Cry 3 shows 89 hours even though I only played about 30 hours and that's because I left uplay on.
I suppose its the same reason that f2p, rts, mmo, and moba don't count.
They count, they just suck.
Metacritic and GS disagree. Therefore, you suck.
Looks like Gamespot factors price into their reviews.
GameSpotNov 8, 2013 90 Considering that Path of Exile costs you nothing beyond some Internet bandwidth, it provides an embarrassment of pleasures.
I'm strictly talking 8.0+ scoring F2P, RTS, MMO , MOBA, SIM games. Why do they all suck?
You're defending a guy who said those genres suck regardless of score and you ask why we call you a troll, you almost always defend a real troll.
I would say a f2p 8+ doesn't measure up to a paid 8+ game. You think if Dota 2 was a full price game it wouldn't have been knocked down a lot of points when games like Starcraft 2 have full sp campaigns and better graphics?
This thread is about games not movies. Please delete this post.
Can't play Super Mario Galaxy, Infamous SS, Forza 5, Halo 5, Fable Legends, Zelda, Splatoon, Super Mario Kart 8, Drive Club, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Killer Instinct, etc, etc...etc... Please stop being delusion and think before you post.
You'll need to spend like over 1000$ to play those games , since you just named games from 3 platforms , and even you may not be able to play some of them . Still those games aren't enough compared to PC library but I respect your opinion .
So $1000 is a lot for you then?
As far a compared to pc.....yeah.
Yeah , mostly multiplatforms . As for exclusives ; still not as many as PC . Those 60$ box products alone make console gaming more expensive in the long run than PC .
And usually it's people like you who claim that PC costs over 1000$ to develop and it is too expensive for them .
Not according to the majority of gamers so your opinion is in the minority.
Which means TLOU is the greatest game in gaming history according to majority of critics
but several games have higher scores. So this is not true.
still waiting on your steam library link.
still waiting on your psn id link.
Yep. Your Steam account, if you even have one, is the spitting image of what I said it'd be. Just like Clyde's, and the Steam data collection. Half your library not touched( especially halmark pc titles), and the other half almost devoid of any power hungry, graphically taxing games, which are also the ones you put most of your gaming time into.
This thread is about games not movies. Please delete this post.
Can't play Super Mario Galaxy, Infamous SS, Forza 5, Halo 5, Fable Legends, Zelda, Splatoon, Super Mario Kart 8, Drive Club, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Killer Instinct, etc, etc...etc... Please stop being delusion and think before you post.
You'll need to spend like over 1000$ to play those games , since you just named games from 3 platforms , and even you may not be able to play some of them . Still those games aren't enough compared to PC library but I respect your opinion .
You could be a total cheapskate and simply buy a console to play a game and then return it. I could buy a PS 4 and Last of Us next time I go grocery shopping at walmart return it 2 weeks later for full refund. Trade in Last of Us or sell on ebay. After 10 times you would have only spent about 30 minutes in line at the returns desk.
@RoboCopISJesus said:
@Shielder7 said:
@walloftruth said:
@amazonangry said:
@walloftruth said:
@Shielder7 said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:
I suppose its the same reason that f2p, rts, mmo, and moba don't count.
They count, they just suck.
Not according to the majority of gamers so your opinion is in the minority.
Which means TLOU is the greatest game in gaming history according to majority of critics granting it more awards than any other game.
Oh, you wanna play the critic game? Okay fine, Out of the Park Baseball 2007 (PC exclusive) is better than TLoU according to its MC score.
Also, both TLoU and TLoU:R flopped on here.
TLoU has a 9.1 user score on MC as well so yeah that argument is full of fail.
LOL! 5 reviews for the baseball game while TLoU has 98 reviews. One of Out of the Park Baseballs reviewers is Gamespy who lost all credibility after their Gothic 2 review.
@walloftruth: You still haven't proven that you have played any of the games you've shown."
You've been exposed. There's really nothing more to discuss. If you'd like to prove you're actually a PC gamer, and not a bandwagon rider, just post your steam library link. Don't get why you're hesitating. You talk about all the games PC has that destroy consoles. Let's see 'em...so called PC gamer.
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