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#51 GreySeal9
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@Vatusus said:
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Is XBox a console for people with low standards?

yes and so is this game if it was on the xbox it would be the perfect fit but it already has Ryse.....

so The order fits the low standards perfectly with Knack, Driveclub (especially compared to Forza), KZ:SF

Dont put Killzone SF near Knack, Ryse or DC. It got a 7. If you want to consider a 7 a flop then please, do so with Dead Rising 3 and Killer Instinct while you're at it

Shadowfall has an abysmal campaign, so I don't see why not.

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@Vatusus said:
@thedork_knight said:

@DarthRamms

@Shewgenja said:

Is XBox a console for people with low standards?

yes and so is this game if it was on the xbox it would be the perfect fit but it already has Ryse.....

so The order fits the low standards perfectly with Knack, Driveclub (especially compared to Forza), KZ:SF

Dont put Killzone SF near Knack, Ryse or DC. It got a 7. If you want to consider a 7 a flop then please, do so with Dead Rising 3 and Killer Instinct while you're at it

Except KZSF did flop. Do you understand how the term flop is used here?

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#53 darklight4
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It's a good rental for the weekend. Saying people have low standards because they like a certain game is childish.

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#54 BloodyTides
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@darklight4 said:

It's a good rental for the weekend. Saying people have low standards because they like a certain game is childish.

A weekend rental means its already low standard

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#55 darklight4
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@bloodytides said:

@darklight4 said:

It's a good rental for the weekend. Saying people have low standards because they like a certain game is childish.

A weekend rental means its already low standard

Standards are upto the individual purchasing the game. You and I have various standards for games, one of mine is I want games that can last me a good few weeks before 100% the game. Depends what you want out of a game and whether that game caters to you.

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#56 coasterguy65
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The Order wasn't that bad of a game. It just wasn't anywhere near as good as it should have been. Hell it was Steampunk King Arthur. It could have been great. Focusing on graphics over game play is never good. Loading your game up with QTEs is never good either.

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@GreySeal9 said:

@Vatusus said:
@thedork_knight said:

@DarthRamms

@Shewgenja said:

Is XBox a console for people with low standards?

yes and so is this game if it was on the xbox it would be the perfect fit but it already has Ryse.....

so The order fits the low standards perfectly with Knack, Driveclub (especially compared to Forza), KZ:SF

Dont put Killzone SF near Knack, Ryse or DC. It got a 7. If you want to consider a 7 a flop then please, do so with Dead Rising 3 and Killer Instinct while you're at it

Shadowfall has an abysmal campaign, so I don't see why not.

cool opinion ya got there bud. I liked the main campaign very much. The only fact is its still an AE, everything else is irrelevant

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#58  Edited By GreySeal9
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@Vatusus said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@Vatusus said:
@thedork_knight said:

@DarthRamms

@Shewgenja said:

Is XBox a console for people with low standards?

yes and so is this game if it was on the xbox it would be the perfect fit but it already has Ryse.....

so The order fits the low standards perfectly with Knack, Driveclub (especially compared to Forza), KZ:SF

Dont put Killzone SF near Knack, Ryse or DC. It got a 7. If you want to consider a 7 a flop then please, do so with Dead Rising 3 and Killer Instinct while you're at it

Shadowfall has an abysmal campaign, so I don't see why not.

cool opinion ya got there bud. I liked the main campaign very much. The only fact is its still an AE, everything else is irrelevant

thedork_knight wasn't necessarily talking about GS scores tho but quality in general. Though every game has its fans, the consensus is that Shadowfall has a really bad campaign. Amazing graphics but the pacing is about as exciting as old waffles. If you liked SF's campaign, I have to wonder if there are any FPS campaigns that you DON'T like.

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@TheFadeForever said:

COD >>>>>>>> The Order and that's saying something

COD Ghosts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Order. lol

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#60 joel_c17
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@Shewgenja said:

Is XBox a console for people with low standards?

I thought this straight away

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#61  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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The Order is for your typical console kid who isn't really good at games, and usually only plays garbage movie-games. The worst part, they needed this:

Thats such a dumb statement. The game was a tech demo...it was an average game that looked really good...so it was for anyone who wanted to play familiar gameplay with a little movie twist with good eye candy.

The game didn't meet many expectations...but it wasn't bad...it was just the most basic shooter.

I had fun with it....and if you're calling me a typical console kid then I guess SHOGUN 2, Civ 5, UT2K4, Tribes 2, STALKER, Quake and all those other PC titles that I love are kids games as well.

It's not about having shitty standards....it's about being able to enjoy a game for what it is and not be a jaded prick bashing everything that isn't Half Life 2.

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#62 Jankarcop
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

it was an average game

but it wasn't bad.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-order-1886

Well below average, and pretty bad.

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#63 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Jankarcop said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

it was an average game

but it wasn't bad.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-order-1886

Well below average, and pretty bad.

Based on grade school grading system....I guess you got me.

Nice to see you avoided everything else I said. At least I know you know you're full of shit.

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#64 Jankarcop
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@Jankarcop said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

it was an average game

but it wasn't bad.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-order-1886

Well below average, and pretty bad.

Based on grade school grading system....I guess you got me.

Still DC'ing The Order, this is getting sad.

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#65  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Jankarcop said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:
@Jankarcop said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

it was an average game

but it wasn't bad.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-order-1886

Well below average, and pretty bad.

Based on grade school grading system....I guess you got me.

Still DC'ing The Order, this is getting sad.

No...the game is below average...there, you can sleep at night.

Now....lets talk about how I found The Order to be fun the same as all those PC games I mention that you hold so dearly.

Could it be....GASP.....that I know how to have fun!?!?

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!!

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Nah, I think anyone nomatter thier platform of choice disliked what they saw of The Order. Heck you see alot of Cows around here bashing it just as much.

The game was a flop, a pretty damn poor game, which was at best average, and at worst outright bad. It looked great, and reminds me of this gens lair.

So no I do not think console mainly gamers have lower standards as such, and everyone can tell a bad game when they see it.

What makes The Order painful is that it held so much potential and it got wasted by the absolute lack of vision when it came to gameplay. The devs seems to simply have forgotten that it was a game. And gunned for Graphics and a need to push a story that was far from structured well enough to carry the game, even if it could, The game would still catch flak for the gameplay and odd choices the Devs made.

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Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

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#68  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

As opposed to COD on Xbox for all those years and being able to play strategy games on PC with one hand.

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#69 blueinheaven
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I am fascinated by The Order. No way was I going to pay full price for it but when it comes down to about half price I'll take a look at it just to see if it's really as bad as most people say lol.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

As opposed to COD on Xbox for all those years and being able to play strategy games on PC with one hand.

The Order is hardly a CoD in its interactivity. The Order involves just as much watching, QTEs, walking and observing irrelevant objects as any actual gameplay. Even the boss battles are QTEs.

Strategy games are foremost about engaging your brain also people use the keyboard as well. It's far quicker to use keyboard shortcuts.

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#71 Link3301
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@Vatusus said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@Vatusus said:
@thedork_knight said:

@DarthRamms

@Shewgenja said:

Is XBox a console for people with low standards?

yes and so is this game if it was on the xbox it would be the perfect fit but it already has Ryse.....

so The order fits the low standards perfectly with Knack, Driveclub (especially compared to Forza), KZ:SF

Dont put Killzone SF near Knack, Ryse or DC. It got a 7. If you want to consider a 7 a flop then please, do so with Dead Rising 3 and Killer Instinct while you're at it

Shadowfall has an abysmal campaign, so I don't see why not.

cool opinion ya got there bud. I liked the main campaign very much. The only fact is its still an AE, everything else is irrelevant

Didn't know anyone actually liked that games campaign, also despite the rating it was still a flop. Cows were hyping SF massively and it got a 7.

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I didn't think it was bad at all.

Not a great game by any means, but not total dogshit either.

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#73 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

As opposed to COD on Xbox for all those years and being able to play strategy games on PC with one hand.

The Order is hardly a CoD in its interactivity. The Order involves just as much watching, QTEs, walking and observing irrelevant objects as any actual gameplay. Even the boss battles are QTEs.

Strategy games are foremost about engaging your brain also people use the keyboard as well. It's far quicker to use keyboard shortcuts.

COD is still a mindless shooter.

And I play Civ 5 with one hand (using my mouse) b/c, while you do use your brain more than other games, still doesn't require keyboard shortcuts.

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#74 DEadliNE-Zero0
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Shit's worse than Ryse. They outCryteked Crytek

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#75 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@deadline-zero0 said: They outCryteked Crytek

I don't think the game is all that bad...average at best.

But I lol'd at that.

Good one. :D

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

As opposed to COD on Xbox for all those years and being able to play strategy games on PC with one hand.

The Order is hardly a CoD in its interactivity. The Order involves just as much watching, QTEs, walking and observing irrelevant objects as any actual gameplay. Even the boss battles are QTEs.

Strategy games are foremost about engaging your brain also people use the keyboard as well. It's far quicker to use keyboard shortcuts.

COD is still a mindless shooter.

And I play Civ 5 with one hand (using my mouse) b/c, while you do use your brain more than other games, still doesn't require keyboard shortcuts.

They don't require keyboard short cuts but it helps, especially with RTS games.

But the point is, the object of the strategy games isn't physical skills, it's mental skills.

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#77 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

As opposed to COD on Xbox for all those years and being able to play strategy games on PC with one hand.

The Order is hardly a CoD in its interactivity. The Order involves just as much watching, QTEs, walking and observing irrelevant objects as any actual gameplay. Even the boss battles are QTEs.

Strategy games are foremost about engaging your brain also people use the keyboard as well. It's far quicker to use keyboard shortcuts.

COD is still a mindless shooter.

And I play Civ 5 with one hand (using my mouse) b/c, while you do use your brain more than other games, still doesn't require keyboard shortcuts.

They don't require keyboard short cuts but it helps, especially with RTS games.

But the point is, the object of the strategy games isn't physical skills, it's mental skills.

It's just a different type of skill.

It doesn't make it better or worse.

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#79  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

It's just a different type of skill.

It doesn't make it better or worse.

The skills sets aren't in question.

Civ 5 does what it does well in gameplay in its genre, for example. The Order doesn't excel well in gameplay in its genre.

You brought up strategy, I just pointed out that it wasn't an apples to apples comparison. It's one of the few genres that isn't about timing, co-ordination etc.

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#80  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@deadline-zero0 said: They outCryteked Crytek

I don't think the game is all that bad...average at best.

But I lol'd at that.

Good one. :D

Yes, yes it is. It's bad

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#81  Edited By Jankarcop
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

being able to play strategy games on PC with one hand.

What...The...****....Comparing one of the highest skill-cap, involved, and/or complex genres with The Order? You can play PC strategy games with a finger and it'd be more involved than a majority of PS4's games, much less The Order.

"Why do you guys call me Cranler?"

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#82 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Jankarcop said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

Maybe the developer thought the game would push the cows skills to the limit. Like 'whoa which button do I press next?'.

I think they some what underestimated the cows dexterity.

being able to play strategy games on PC with one hand.

What...The...****....Comparing one of the highest skill-cap, involved, and/or complex genres with The Order? You can play PC strategy games with a finger and it'd be more involved than a majority of PS4's games, much less The Order.

"Why do you guys call me Cranler?"

O......M.....G.......I......can.....play......Civ........5.......with......one......hand.

You.....call.......me.....Cran.....ler.....b/c.......you.....all......thought.....I......didn't.....play.......PC.......games.....but......don't.......care......that.....you're.......wrong.

The.......point.......was.....dexterity.....so....you're.....still.....sensationalizing.....you're.....dumb.....fucking......point.....of.....view......by......over.....dramatizing......the.....situation.

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#83 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Jankarcop: Also....I'm glad to see you ignore posts that ask you to back up your shit statements.

So....whatever.

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#84  Edited By Jankarcop
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@mr_huggles_dog You mean metacritic's and gamespot's "shit" statement.

And Cranler, I'm sure that The Order = Strategy games in Complexity/APM. Dumbass troll.

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#85 OhSnapitz
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Dude.. this game flopped like a dump truck full of pancakes.. everyone excepted that fact and moved on.

..why are you still taking about it?

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#86  Edited By Jankarcop
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@OhSnapitz said:

Dude.. this game flopped like a dump truck full of pancakes.. everyone excepted that fact and moved on.

..why are you still taking about it?

Cows can't stop DC'ing it, not his fault. It's funny to watch.

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@sSubZerOo said:

@Heil68 said:

When you're pushing the envelope like SONY with the current gen 8 console leading PS$ things like this can happen. All is well in SONY land with the world's most powerful video game console, the PS4.

Pushing the envelope? The PS4 has a midrange card released in 2012.. And a cpu that is a quarter of a power of midrange I5's released in 2011.. Which would be acceptable in my eyes if it weren't for the fact that the system was stripped of numerous features from the past iteration, does not share the PSN/PSone games (that your PS3/PSP could), and charges for a sub par multiplayer service..

He's a shill don't waste your fucking time.

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@Gue1: At least with CoD, I have total control of my character at all times.

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#89 Ballroompirate
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Kinda funny and sad people give The Order shit for re using bosses and mobs, yet Vanquish did the same and it's loved by many. So ether people are really fucking dumb or just hypocrites.

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@notorious1234na: The nvida console is a stream box wtf are you talking about.

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#91 AM-Gamer
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@deadline-zero0: Its actually higher rated then Ryse.

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#92 Notorious1234NA
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@AM-Gamer: necro post some1 did anyway I know it is, so whats your point oO?

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#93  Edited By uninspiredcup
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A very good demonstration of how shallow Sony users are.

Shocking.

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@AM-Gamer: ok nvm not gunna even bother since you clearly anti PC.

You don't even know what polygons are much less have me or anyone try to explain how the GRID works.

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#95 lostrib
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@Jankarcop said:

And Cranler, I'm sure that The Order = Strategy games in Complexity/APM. Dumbass troll.

what does APM have to do with complexity?

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#96 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@deadline-zero0: Its actually higher rated then Ryse.

Not much of a defence. Atleast Ryse doesn't leave most of it's story unfinsihed with an obvious sequel bait

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#97  Edited By Jankarcop
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@lostrib said:

@Jankarcop said:

And Cranler, I'm sure that The Order = Strategy games in Complexity/APM. Dumbass troll.

what does APM have to do with complexity?

Nothing. Thats why there is a / instead of =. The complexity and or apm in strategy games is off the charts compared to most console titles, much less the most easy-mode press X to win movie-game game ever made.

My point: Jesus Christ he's comparing strat games to The Order.

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#98 Epak_
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@ominous_titan: Not gonna pay that much for it, maybe like 10€