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#101  Edited By Heil68
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@inb4uall said:

@Heil68: You just don't want the vita to steal all of the PS4's exclusives. ;P

I dont know what you're talking about.

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#102 MrYaotubo
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@Heil68 said:

Handhelds shouldn't count. I agree. Right @jg4xchamp?

I kind of agree as well,for the SW metagame the handhelds are very minor in relevance.

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#103 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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@Heil68 said:

Handhelds shouldn't count. I agree. Right @jg4xchamp?

But how else would Blab keep talking about 999/VLR?

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#104 Heil68
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@Heil68 said:

Handhelds shouldn't count. I agree. Right @jg4xchamp?

But how else would Blab keep talking about 999/VLR?

That game is horrible anyways. It makes you read.

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#105 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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@Heil68 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Heil68 said:

Handhelds shouldn't count. I agree. Right @jg4xchamp?

But how else would Blab keep talking about 999/VLR?

That game is horrible anyways. It makes you read.

Yeah, reading's for the elderly

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#106  Edited By lostrib
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So when do PC games start counting for the spreadsheet? Is it when the WiiU launched?

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#107 BPoole96
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PC is already missing several high scoring games. The Stanley Parable, Dota 2, Gone Home, and League of Legends all got AAAE this year

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PC games is under construction, it'll get completed.

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@lostrib said:

So when do PC games start counting for the spreadsheet? Is it when the WiiU launched?

Yes.

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#110 lostrib
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@musicalmac said:

@lostrib said:

So when do PC games start counting for the spreadsheet? Is it when the WiiU launched?

Yes.

I predict that Playstation and Xbox fanboys will complain about this in the near future

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#111  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

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@seanmcloughlin said:

So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

Correct, HD remakes will not count as exclusives. I closed the thread and made that declaration because of the community vote. PC is being added now, and I'd love volunteers to help with the mobile platforms. I have so far received no PMs from people wishing we would be including 3DS/Vita.

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#113 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

Correct, HD remakes will not count as exclusives. I closed the thread and made that declaration because of the community vote. PC is being added now, and I'd love volunteers to help with the mobile platforms. I have so far received no PMs from people wishing we would be including 3DS/Vita.

Perhaps we should vote on it.

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#114  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

Correct, HD remakes will not count as exclusives. I closed the thread and made that declaration because of the community vote. PC is being added now, and I'd love volunteers to help with the mobile platforms. I have so far received no PMs from people wishing we would be including 3DS/Vita.

Just PM'd you. I'm willing to volunteer to include them into the spreadsheet (especially considering my familiarity with both platforms).

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#115 musicalmac  Moderator
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

Correct, HD remakes will not count as exclusives. I closed the thread and made that declaration because of the community vote. PC is being added now, and I'd love volunteers to help with the mobile platforms. I have so far received no PMs from people wishing we would be including 3DS/Vita.

Perhaps we should vote on it.

Vote on what?

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#116 musicalmac  Moderator
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@charizard1605 said:

@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

Correct, HD remakes will not count as exclusives. I closed the thread and made that declaration because of the community vote. PC is being added now, and I'd love volunteers to help with the mobile platforms. I have so far received no PMs from people wishing we would be including 3DS/Vita.

Just PM'd you. I'm willing to volunteer to include them into the spreadsheet (especially considering my familiarity with both platforms).

Just got it, thank you. Stay tuned for more.

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@BPoole96 said:

PC is already missing several high scoring games. The Stanley Parable, Dota 2, Gone Home, and League of Legends all got AAAE this year

It's currently being updated. Please chill your beans.

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#118 tubbyc
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Nice. These spreadsheets are a handy tool.

Just a little correction: should be Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm, not Heat of the Storm.

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#119 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

Correct, HD remakes will not count as exclusives. I closed the thread and made that declaration because of the community vote. PC is being added now, and I'd love volunteers to help with the mobile platforms. I have so far received no PMs from people wishing we would be including 3DS/Vita.

Perhaps we should vote on it.

Vote on what?

To include handhelds into the mix. Or are you saying no one has PM'd offering to update the lists for them?

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@Ninja-Hippo: Fecking great job on the spreadsheet N-H looks great

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#121  Edited By BPoole96
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@Ninja-Hippo said:

@BPoole96 said:

PC is already missing several high scoring games. The Stanley Parable, Dota 2, Gone Home, and League of Legends all got AAAE this year

It's currently being updated. Please chill your beans.

Ah, sorry. Beans are chilled.

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#122  Edited By musicalmac  Moderator
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@musicalmac said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

So HD remakes don't count as exclusives then? cos you un-stickied the thread and said you would decide after 24 hours unless it drastically changed, which it didn't

Correct, HD remakes will not count as exclusives. I closed the thread and made that declaration because of the community vote. PC is being added now, and I'd love volunteers to help with the mobile platforms. I have so far received no PMs from people wishing we would be including 3DS/Vita.

Perhaps we should vote on it.

Vote on what?

To include handhelds into the mix. Or are you saying no one has PM'd offering to update the lists for them?

I'm saying nobody had PMd about it, but we do now have a volunteer. They'll be added.

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#123 Vaasman
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Should gamespot's second opinion reviews count for anything? Figure that's pretty important as long as we are updating meta game stuff.

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#124  Edited By Blabadon
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No to handhelds!

*Gameofthrones.gif*

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#125 Cheleman
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Sorry, but Metacritic is still the standard, and not a sticky in the world can change that.

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#126 lostrib
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@Cheleman said:

Sorry, but Metacritic is still the standard, and not a sticky in the world can change that.

it's not the standard in the SW meta game

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@Vaasman said:

Should gamespot's second opinion reviews count for anything? Figure that's pretty important as long as we are updating meta game stuff.

In my opinion we should just stick to the first score it gets.

I think this second opinion thing is stupid anyway. What should they do, calculate the average? =P first it met the hype, but after the second opinion it flopped.

Would be kinda funny actually, now that I think of it.. haha

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#128 lostrib
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@killerfist said:

@Vaasman said:

Should gamespot's second opinion reviews count for anything? Figure that's pretty important as long as we are updating meta game stuff.

In my opinion we should just stick to the first score it gets.

I think this second opinion thing is stupid anyway. What should they do, calculate the average? =P first it met the hype, but after the second opinion it flopped.

Would be kinda funny actually, now that I think of it.. haha

Well the first score is still listed as the primary/official score of the game on gamespot

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@lostrib said:

@killerfist said:

@Vaasman said:

Should gamespot's second opinion reviews count for anything? Figure that's pretty important as long as we are updating meta game stuff.

In my opinion we should just stick to the first score it gets.

I think this second opinion thing is stupid anyway. What should they do, calculate the average? =P first it met the hype, but after the second opinion it flopped.

Would be kinda funny actually, now that I think of it.. haha

Well the first score is still listed as the primary/official score of the game on gamespot

True. I think it's better. It doesn't need to become a full-time job to keep track of the scores for a silly game.

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@Cheleman said:

Sorry, but Metacritic is still the standard, and not a sticky in the world can change that.

Standard for the industry in general, maybe (but sadly)

Not the standard of SW though. You play the numbers and "ownage" game round here then you abide by the rules set out. Simple as

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#131  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Right, so the handhelds are now on the spreadsheet too.

EDIT: You have to scroll to the right to see them, they're separated by a big pink block.

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@Slashkice said:
@charizard1605 said:

Right, so the handhelds are now on the spreadsheet too.

EDIT: You have to scroll to the right to see them, they're separated by a big pink block.

You have Soul Sacrifice listed as a multiplat. :p

Hot Shots Golf, Steamworld Dig, Mighty Switch Force, Theatrhythm, and Liberation Maiden are multiplats though.

Will get to fixing this. Dunno why I listed SS as a multi :/

What are those other games on? I know Liberation has a PS3 sequel, but the main game is still 3DS, right?

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#135  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Damn iOS >.>

Anyway, everything fixed :P

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@Capitan_Kid said:

Exclusive HD remakes count now?

The PS3 just got like 12+ exclusives.

THIS!!!!! Okay, Lets rewind the clocks guys. Not only did PS3 have the most Quality Exclusives last gen and won by a massive landslide, it now completely DESTROYED the other 2. PS3=PS2 in game quality. Its official. PS3 has a superior game library than the PS2.

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@stuff238 said:

@Capitan_Kid said:

Exclusive HD remakes count now?

The PS3 just got like 12+ exclusives.

THIS!!!!! Okay, Lets rewind the clocks guys. Not only did PS3 have the most Quality Exclusives last gen and won by a massive landslide, it now completely DESTROYED the other 2. PS3=PS2 in game quality. Its official. PS3 has a superior game library than the PS2.

Except it was determined that the previous rule would remain in place. HD remakes don't count as exclusives

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#138  Edited By Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Keep in mind that this is an evolving and changing system controlled by users where mistakes will undoubtedly happen. As always, it's best to approach situations in a calm and cool headed manner and actively engage in discussion to fix/discuss such issues like we have in the past with respect to big additions/changes (Expansions, GRAW, NGS, generational gap remakes/ports, MLB exclusivity, EFLC, etc.) Jumping to immediate outlash, conspiracy talk (these users out to undermine my favorite piece of plastic! They have agendas!), or abrasive behavior does nothing constructive, and only serves to bring out unwarranted and unproductive talks.

@Cheleman said:

Sorry, but Metacritic is still the standard, and not a sticky in the world can change that.

It's not the standard here; nothing you say will change that.

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#139 CrownKingArthur
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ps4 is the only one yet to achieve an aaae

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Will this meta-sheet be properly updated? Because it isn't worth anyone's time playing the game if the means of scoring it is useless.

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@foxhound_fox said:

Will this meta-sheet be properly updated? Because it isn't worth anyone's time playing the game if the means of scoring it is useless.

It will be updated every monday from now on. PC is still missing games from the last couple of months, but they'll all be present and 100% accurate by the next update on monday.

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#142  Edited By lostrib
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@Ninja-Hippo said:

@foxhound_fox said:

Will this meta-sheet be properly updated? Because it isn't worth anyone's time playing the game if the means of scoring it is useless.

It will be updated every monday from now on. PC is still missing games from the last couple of months, but they'll all be present and 100% accurate by the next update on monday.

Oh man, you realize once the meta game really gets going, people are going to bitch their heads off that PC is counting "last gen" games

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#143  Edited By dr_jashugan
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Is there a shorter version of this short version? 8-\

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#144 musicalmac  Moderator
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Another big thanks to @Ninja-Hippo for all his work here.

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Hope there's a special place in hell for people who use the word 'based'

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#146 lostrib
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@John_Matherson said:

Hope there's a special place in hell for people who use the word 'based'

yes, it's right above the place for people who throw tantrums on internet forums

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@John_Matherson said:

Hope there's a special place in hell for people who use the word 'based'

You have been a never ending pit of butthurt lately.

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@Ninja-Hippo said:

@John_Matherson said:

Hope there's a special place in hell for people who use the word 'based'

You have been a never ending pit of butthurt lately.

Lmao yeah no I'm not going to read into the words of someone who says based. Cool thread though. Just never use that word.

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@John_Matherson said:

@Ninja-Hippo said:

@John_Matherson said:

Hope there's a special place in hell for people who use the word 'based'

You have been a never ending pit of butthurt lately.

Lmao yeah no I'm not going to read into the words of someone who says based. Cool thread though. Just never use that word.

Thank you Based Ninja-Hippo for the massive amount of butthurt you have caused in this "man"