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#1 mouthpeace01
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okay first off major props to SHADOWMARIO of SW for this post

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Cows, lemmings, and sheep. They possess irreconcilable differences that will likely never be solved, and will be pitted against one another for all eternity. No matter what events unfold, each respective faction will claim their system is the best, at most times, ignoring all facts and logic. Which is why I am here. It's time to debunk the crap spewing around here, let's take a step back, and evaluate everything. These points will be as candid as possible, I will be merely stating facts, and not giving my opinion on any of the subjects.

- The Xbox 360 now has 44 AA+ games
- The Wii now has 12 AA+ games
- The PS3 now has 10 AA games (notice the lack of a + sign)

- The Xbox 360 currently has 5 AAA games
- The Wii currently has 1 AAA game
- The PS3 currently has 0 AAA games

- The PS3's second highest rated title is a hockey game and downloadable fighter (NHL 2K7 and Tekken 5 - 8.3)
- In comparison, the 360 has 17 games rated higher than 8.3, while the Wii has 5

- The PS3's highest rated game is 8.6 (Resistence)
- The 360 has 11 games rated higher than 8.6, while the Wii has 2

- The 12th highest rated game for the PS3 is MLB 2K7 (7.4)
- The 12th highest rated game for the 360 is FEAR (8.6)
- The 12th highest rated game for the Wii is Trauma Centre (8.0)
- Also, you'd have to go down to the 70th best title available for the 360 to find a score of 7.4 (Blitz: The League)

- The PS3 has not seen a title score improve on its highest rated launch score (8.6)
- The 360 has seen 4 titles improve on its highest rated launch score (9.0)
- The Wii has seen 1 title improve on its higheset rated launch score (8.8)

- The PS3 is currently in last place for sales
- The 360 is currently in first place for sales
- The Wii is currently in second place for sales, but at its current pace, will eventually be in 1st

- The highest rated PS3 game at GameRankings is at 88.5% (Resistence)
- The highest rated 360 game at GameRankings is at 94.1% (Oblivion)
- The highest rated Wii game at GameRankings is at 94.8% (Twilight Princess)

It will be noted that the 360 has had the advantage of a 1 year start over both the PS3 and Wii. The 360 accomplished far more than the PS3 in its current time frame though, while Sony has no excuses for Nintendo, as they launched at the same time.

These are the facts, I will allow you draw your own conclusions, but remember, opinions mean squat.
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#2 lawlessx
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*flame on!*
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#3 Vyse_The_Daring
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People are just going to bring up the 360's year headstart, and I don't blame them.
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#4 GsSanAndreas
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Will See How the Ps3 is doing in a year :wink:
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#5 Baird-06
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Yeah. That's the point of a headstart....
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#6 Tylendal
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This comparison looks fair to me, but I still think that it's too early to tell what's going to be happening this gen.
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#7 Ibacai
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Ratings don't run my life. Sure, they help and are usually a good meter as to where a game is but I like to go by my own fun-o-meter most of the time.
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#8 shadow_lord_11
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1) who are you at sw.com
2) The cowd have been brutally massacred.
3) Shadow mario owns
4) This thread will be a fifth of the greatness of its sw.com counterpart.
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#9 shadow_lord_11
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People are just going to bring up the 360's year headstart, and I don't blame them. Vyse_The_Daring
sorry, that excuse isnt good enough anymore

"It will be noted that the 360 has had the advantage of a 1 year start
over both the PS3 and Wii. The 360 accomplished far more than the PS3
in its current time frame though, while Sony has no excuses for
Nintendo, as they launched at the same time."
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#10 RKFS
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Gamespot doesn't rate games with A's... 
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#11 lawlessx
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Gamespot doesn't rate games with A's... RKFS
..new to the system wars board? 7.0-7.9= A 8.0-8.9= AA and 9.0-9.9= AAA
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I see you are using vc, and xbla. If you are using vc, at least state that ps3 has like 90 AAA, 300 AA, etc. Since that is basically what vc is, old games from old consoles all overpriced. And since ps3 is backword compatible then,  all the ps2 and ps games should be accounted for
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#13 grapefruit21
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1) who are you at sw.com
2) The cowd have been brutally massacred.
3) Shadow mario owns
4) This thread will be a fifth of the greatness of its sw.com counterpart.
shadow_lord_11
what is sw.com because when i typed it in i got a lawyers page.
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#14 mouthpeace01
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to shadow_lord_11 1) Mouthpeace 2) tru 3) tru 4) idk yet to Grapefruit21 systemwars.com
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#15 nextgengaming18
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[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"]to shadow_lord_11 1) Mouthpeace 2) tru 3) tru 4) idk yet to Grapefruit21 systemwars.com

Why are you using vc? Why don't you add all the ps2 and ps gamesfor the ps3 then?
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#16 Devil-Itachi
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I see you are using vc, and xbla. If you are using vc, at least state that ps3 has like 90 AAA, 300 AA, etc. Since that is basically what vc is, old games from old consoles all overpriced. And since ps3 is backword compatible then, all the ps2 and ps games should be accounted fornextgengaming18


Then he would have to put all the xbox games compatible with the 360 and all Gamecube games.  These games shouldn't be accounted for though as they are not rated on current standards.
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#17 shadow_lord_11
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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]1) who are you at sw.com
2) The cowd have been brutally massacred.
3) Shadow mario owns
4) This thread will be a fifth of the greatness of its sw.com counterpart.
grapefruit21
what is sw.com because when i typed it in i got a lawyers page.

systemwars.com is a systemwars site independant of the gamespot forums, although it has its roots in gamespot. Memebers of the gamespot community branched off and made a new forum for themselves.
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#18 zayl99
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Hey, I've got an idea... Let's add PC games to this to see how much the PC blows all of the systems out of the water :P.
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#19 draak3000
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You have to take into account that gamespot is biased towards any xbox 360 game and generally rates even their crap games as really good (See Perfect Dark zero).  So all this "factual" information is really statistically invalid.
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#20 mouthpeace01
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You have to take into account that gamespot is biased towards any xbox 360 game and generally rates even their crap games as really good (See Perfect Dark zero). So all this "factual" information is really statistically invalid.draak3000
huh??
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#21 DaysAirlines
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[QUOTE="draak3000"]You have to take into account that gamespot is biased towards any xbox 360 game and generally rates even their crap games as really good (See Perfect Dark zero). So all this "factual" information is really statistically invalid.mouthpeace01
huh??

GS is biased against the PS3 or something. I dunno we've been hearing that for a while now.
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#22 Brown52
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You have to take into account that gamespot is biased towards any xbox 360 game and generally rates even their crap games as really good (See Perfect Dark zero). So all this "factual" information is really statistically invalid.draak3000


So were they biased towards Sony last gen?
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#23 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="draak3000"]You have to take into account that gamespot is biased towards any xbox 360 game and generally rates even their crap games as really good (See Perfect Dark zero). So all this "factual" information is really statistically invalid.Brown52


So were they biased towards Sony last gen?

no it was the xbox last-gen, so can lem's say we won the war last-gen cuz gamespot didn't like the xbox??

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#24 Lanfeix
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The scores arent platform crosable. This means it possible for a multiplate to get lowest scores compared to the other systems version and still get a "best" tag. 
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#25 Telekill
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It's an unbiased post given that those are all true facts... however he fails to mention that there is a one year difference. So comparing titles and scores of titles (based on opinion of sites) isn't the way to compare. 1 year makes a huge difference. Now, if 360 still had those numbers... and PS3 still had those numbers a year from now... then PS3 would officially be a dead system.
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#26 Tasman_basic
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People are just going to bring up the 360's year headstart, and I don't blame them. Vyse_The_Daring
yeah thats kinda the point about a years head start.
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You have to take into account that gamespot is biased towards any xbox 360 game and generally rates even their crap games as really good (See Perfect Dark zero).  So all this "factual" information is really statistically invalid.draak3000

:cry: Buh buh teh bias  :cry:

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#28 Sgt_Hale
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I see you are using vc, and xbla. If you are using vc, at least state that ps3 has like 90 AAA, 300 AA, etc. Since that is basically what vc is, old games from old consoles all overpriced. And since ps3 is backword compatible then,  all the ps2 and ps games should be accounted fornextgengaming18
Exactly.
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#29 Silvereign
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Wii had the best launch of all 3 systems
PS3 launch absolutely sucked
360 's year head start made a difference.
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#30 xxgunslingerxx
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good job.... so why are u counting virutal console games and live arcade?
oh i know to screw up the facts.... thats why.. why dont we throw in all the ps2 and ps1 games ?  hell why not conut the gameboy games for nintendo as well... fanboy FTW...

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#31 buuzer0
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It's an unbiased post given that those are all true facts... however he fails to mention that there is a one year difference. So comparing titles and scores of titles (based on opinion of sites) isn't the way to compare. 1 year makes a huge difference. Now, if 360 still had those numbers... and PS3 still had those numbers a year from now... then PS3 would officially be a dead system.Telekill
Did you not read the whole thing? [QUOTE="mouthpeace01"] It will be noted that the 360 has had the advantage of a 1 year start over both the PS3 and Wii. The 360 accomplished far more than the PS3 in its current time frame though, while Sony has no excuses for Nintendo, as they launched at the same time.

~sigh
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#32 Deiuos
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Some of these "facts" are based on opinions.  Review scores are opinions.

Also, "The Wii is currently in second place for sales, but at its current pace, will eventually be in 1st."  This
is probably true, but it's an opinion stated as a fact.  Needs to be "may eventually."

Not bad of a start though -- could be better, such as stating what games are AA+, and anything else to back-up statements.
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[QUOTE="Telekill"]It's an unbiased post given that those are all true facts... however he fails to mention that there is a one year difference. So comparing titles and scores of titles (based on opinion of sites) isn't the way to compare. 1 year makes a huge difference. Now, if 360 still had those numbers... and PS3 still had those numbers a year from now... then PS3 would officially be a dead system.buuzer0
Did you not read the whole thing?
It will be noted that the 360 has had the advantage of a 1 year start over both the PS3 and Wii. The 360 accomplished far more than the PS3 in its current time frame though, while Sony has no excuses for Nintendo, as they launched at the same time. mouthpeace01
~sigh

Obviously not.
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#34 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="draak3000"]You have to take into account that gamespot is biased towards any xbox 360 game and generally rates even their crap games as really good (See Perfect Dark zero). So all this "factual" information is really statistically invalid.DaysAirlines
huh??

GS is biased against the PS3 or something. I dunno we've been hearing that for a while now.

GS is biased towards every company if people are to be believed.
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#35 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"]

These are the facts, I will allow you draw your own conclusions, but remember, opinions mean squat.


    Hahahahahaha....oka.....hahahahhahahaha.....
    Ok better. You show all these review scores as "facts" and then say opinions don't matter? What do you think a review is?
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#36 SpruceCaboose
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And for the record, GS is biased against gaming. They hate it all. There. Arguement is settled.
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#37 Nex_Ownage
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SW.com crap should stay on SW.com....