the list of hardcore games in 2009

to me a hardcore game is defined by its lack of fearof alienating the casual audience in crafting deep gameplay. for example, sins of a solar empire was designed for gamers who are willing to time and frustration to get a grasp on the mechanics, and are willing to invest time in honing their skills to succeed. here's a list of games that I think will appeal to hardcore gamers this year:

• Parabellum
• Demigod
• Starcraft 2
• Dragon Age: Origins

any others?

Empire: Total War is way less casual-friendly than StarCraft will be.Cherokee_Jack

Divinity 2 is another game that fits your criteria, I think. Also ArmA 2 and OpFlash 2.

demon soul?

Stormrise I guess, and alpha protocol.

Sin & Punishment 2?

Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero Dood?

You gotta be hardcore to finish that game.

Men of War should be there, especially since it's not only complex as hell, but also difficult as hell :D

But most of all...Black Shark, that's propably the most hardcore game this year

their are no hardcore games only hardcore gamers.wayne_kar

Sin & Punishment 2?

Wanderer5

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]their are no hardcore games only hardcore gamers.RABicle

So what about World of Goo then?RABicle

Quake Live

You don't mean hardcore....you mean complex.

All Even online expansions(there should be one this year)(there already was one this year)

What is hardcore exactly?

Even SW definition is open to opinion.

Hardcore **

Generally considered to be a longtime, dedicated gamer with a deep love for the medium. Hardcore gamers have typically played a large number of games, follow industry news, and have a genuine interest both in playing videogames and the hobby as a whole. The hardcore demographic also includes those gamers who become dedicated to the development of games.

**The exact definition of a "hardcore gamer" is a subject that is sometimes debated within System Wars - this definition encompasses a general explanation for the term's use in most discussions, however the exact games, systems, and habits of a "hardcore gamer" are a matter of personal opinion.

I have seen people say hardcore is:

-Someone who seeks to play occult gems.

-Someone who plays games 8+ hours a day.

-Someone who is in the gaming developing or general business.

-Someone who plays 1+ games professionally.

-Someone who just seeks to be the best in 1+ games.

-Someone who collects games and systems.

I'm confused, now even a game is hardcore? :?

List does seem a little sparse :?

You don't mean hardcore....you mean complex.

SUD123456

their are no hardcore games only hardcore gamers.wayne_kar

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]their are no hardcore games only hardcore gamers.AppleBlade

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

You don't mean hardcore....you mean complex.

AdrianWerner

No he meant complex :)

As in deep gameplay, that requires time and effort to master the mechanics.

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]their are no hardcore games only hardcore gamers.RABicle

There are no hardcore games.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

You don't mean hardcore....you mean complex.

SUD123456

No he meant complex :)

As in deep gameplay, that requires time and effort to master the mechanics.

to me a hardcore game is defined by its lack of fearof alienating the casual audience in crafting deep gameplay. for example, sins of a solar empire was designed for gamers who are willing to time and frustration to get a grasp on the mechanics, and are willing to invest time in honing their skills to succeed. here's a list of games that I think will appeal to hardcore gamers this year:

• Parabellum
• Demigod
• Starcraft 2
• Dragon Age: Origins

any others?

di_sgt_barber

The new 2D XBLA RPG is supposed to bring back real RPG gaming in its roots, with huge dialog, amazing art and atmosphere

Two Worlds Temptation has village creation, sailing the oceans, amazing vast world, etc it is as hardcore as it gets too

Kingdom Under Fire 2 : Dominion, if it is anythng like the xbox 1 exclusives, will be a hard strategy game

Risen from Gothic developers will definatly be hardcore

FF13, Witcher, Dungeon Hero, Precursors, Mass Effect 2 etc are for both hardcore and casuals, but do have their own hardcore elements

wii sports island resort should be on that list!!

pff.... way to go tc...

I think we need to find a different term than "hard core".

to me a hardcore game is defined by its lack of fearof alienating the casual audience in crafting deep gameplay. for example, sins of a solar empire was designed for gamers who are willing to time and frustration to get a grasp on the mechanics, and are willing to invest time in honing their skills to succeed. here's a list of games that I think will appeal to hardcore gamers this year:

• Parabellum
• Demigod
• Starcraft 2
• Dragon Age: Origins

any others?

di_sgt_barber